Papoose On Remy Ma, His $1.5 Million Deal, His Career & More | Drink Champs

[Music] oh [Music] it [ __ ] let me say that [Music] i'm [Music] what it could be hopefully this wouldn't show me this is your boy n-o-r-e what up it's dj efn let's build a team with you guys right here i'm just drinking water [Music] right now listen you know we as as i always do you know i do my due diligence and i do my research when i when i interview somebody and i was going through this man's catalog and i was going through his bar selection i think you might be too good so let me finish my intro i actually compared this guy i put him up there with rock kim wow you know what i'm saying when it comes to lyrical content i believe he belonged in that era when it when it come when it comes to that the man has to be the most loyalist person i've ever seen held his wife down and do a whole truck and we need more examples of that he's a lyrical bar lord i mean i don't think i think he can rap with anybody on the track so in case i don't know who the [ __ ] i'm talking about i'm talking about the one and only [ __ ] hello now i got to ask you right like when you and your wife argue do y'all like battle rap like i just thought about that like like when you have disagreements so let's take it from the beginning right because in the beginning uh it was a case slay that you guys started with and didn't like buster came on right yeah is that accurate so how did that k-slay connection start man um i met slate man just you know i mean just being in the hood and i mean hip-hop was always my dream you know what i'm saying coming up in the hood man it was just so far from reality for me and then one day i was listening to the radio and i heard this dude on the radio but he was playing new artists and back then if you wasn't coming through rockefeller right or murder inc or rough ride on one of those crews you wasn't getting on it was was is this the drama hour yeah yeah he was on 197. okay and slaves are super legends and i'm listening and i'm hearing i'm like this dude is playing new all this on the radio i need to meet this dude right so i always kept that in my mind you know what i'm saying i was in the street i got locked up i'm saying i found myself on the island not for a long time a couple weeks right but i'm in there and i'm like yo man when i get out of here i gotta go mix dude man i gotta change my life cuz this is my future if i if i continue doing what i'm doing i'm definitely going to end up you know i'm saying going up north and there's some time so when i get out of here i'm going to go meet that dude and i got out i went to the studio i recorded seven songs i'm saying i took the picture for the cover i had the mic in one hand and a gun in the other hand put my number on the cd and i went up to high 97 i looked it up i ain't had google and then i must use yellow pages or something i went to the station and i just waited for him man and he came he came out remember he came he was going to work he gave me you know my name papoose man here you go this is my demo you know sled he took it and went in the building i went to the radio i'm listening i don't hear my song all right but did you actually play this record it's up and that happens to him every day yeah soon you know most likely yeah so i'm listening he ain't gonna play my [ __ ] i'm like damn i'm gonna do this [ __ ] again next weekend i'll come back next week i'll do it again same routine yo here you go man cd on different cd same cd it's seven songs okay what i'm saying yo here you go my name my name is man you're like all right you go in the building i'm listening again i'm like damn this [ __ ] ain't playing my [ __ ] so i said you know what next time when i go i'm gonna wait for him and that way we come out you're gonna have to explain to me why he ain't playing my music yeah so i'm listening he go off at two o'clock it's like 150. i'm like damn i still don't hear my song i'm like [ __ ] that let me call up on the radio i call up from down in the car he picks up i'm like oh [ __ ] so he like yo what's up i'm like yo man why you ain't playing my song he's like yo everybody can't be a rapper man some people got to be a fire man i'm like oh [ __ ] this [ __ ] dissing me somebody get fired i remember exactly how old i was but i was a lot younger okay so he i'm like all right when he come down i'm gonna see this [ __ ] you know what i'm saying so he come down i'm going at him he going at me so the person who he was with at the time he got in the middle of us i'm saying he like yo you know you can't do it like that give me the cd i got you man i'm like all right whatever man i spin off i'm back in the hood again now i'm in a situation where i'm about to throw my life away right right and my phone ring while i'm in the midst of that and slay on the phone he like yo you're on the radio next week i'm like wow and then i went up there he had prodigy up there rest in peace we spit live on the air and the rest was history man oh y'all eventually buster rhymes because becomes a part of this how is that buster's hearing you on the radio yeah yeah yeah i started me and slate started flooding the streets with a lot of mixtapes and [ __ ] and um buster heard when he was doing it eventually he reached out right like yo i want to [ __ ] with this kid named papoose man you know what i mean and we um we did a couple records together here and then eventually he put me on that big one well i'll touch it yeah that [ __ ] changed my life man i couldn't go to the mall no more after that no i'm saying word this is before me right um nah i'm that rim i met rim like oh four no i'm sorry i'm at slaying 04 i'm at rim like around late 00 405. okay no i'm saying i'm gonna be bouncing around let's get some champagne buddy by the way your drink i i always pay attention to the artist's drink order okay and your drink order was out of line oh wow you picked hennessy and dawn peter yeah we are drinking deuces it's just black owned okay drinking a spade okay sir how come you ain't never have a relationship with rockefeller or is there a quiet relationship um nah nevertheless think all your brooklyn [ __ ] know each other a word i mean i [ __ ] with bleak but you know me i [ __ ] with bleak now but back then i really didn't matter of fact me and blake actually did a mixtape back then too really um but i never had a relationship with them with them like that you know what i'm saying because you got to understand slay sign me right and slay and get along with that's right slaying didn't get [Music] the history was a little a little shaky that makes sense that makes sense would you ever want to do a record with jay or like connect with him hell yeah i would love to you know what i'm saying it was a time where um you know i did an interview and i said a couple things in the interview yeah about that yeah explain explain that no well you know i did an interview i forgot what it was i think it was a daily news or [ __ ] like that i did a long ass interview and somewhere in the interview they was like yo you know i mean do you think you're the best i said yeah they said better than jay-z i said yeah they said oh next thing i know that was the headline i thought it was king of new york i thought it was was it was that was a whole number [Laughter] but um they just took that part pat pooh says he's better than jay-z you know i'm saying the interview wasn't even about that right i mean but whatever um and that was that so it went off from that then i went on i went in the studio i said i backed it up i doubled down on it right i said i'm better than me whatever whatever and then um eventually i met him though he showed me love though okay he's like yo you're competitive man i like that right you know what i'm saying because he sees everything oh yeah yeah yeah like uh words so that's crazy yeah man that makes a lot of sense now like i said i was going through your stuff and like your bars is really really complicated it's really like like so i can tell that you really think you're it all the way through like your [ __ ] just makes sense like i'm not my my favorite [ __ ] right now is bucket hat no okay over us shout out to russ yes oh yeah yeah shout out to russ man that's some type of [ __ ] in me like i was like listening to that i forgot yeah that yeah put the plate play that for me we don't even do this we don't even play the first time yeah yeah yeah that's what's up that's just something to me man that's what's up now you got to say who were the influences behind and one of your first looks was cool g rap right yeah definitely man uh when i was younger a friend of mine you know he introduced me to g rap i spit for him and we did a song called home sweet funeral home or um roots evil album that's dope i'm saying so yeah shout out to g bad man big brother my dad he got to come outside i said that on the last episode all right yeah you're gonna get mad at me but i'm saying that g-rap you're gonna come out you gotta come on drink chances oh yeah a lot of [ __ ] got they stopped from g man yeah who's your top five my top five is uh g-rap kane biggie uh nas and karis one hmm i got gotta put um big pun number seven i gotta put tupac number eight i gotta put busta rhymes number nine and no me in no particular order my wife man hmm no tupac i mean no lyrically i don't got over my time i mean on a business level though paul is crazy [Laughter] i did not like it i wa i mean i could say this man when reasonable doubt first first came out i wasn't crazy about it i wasn't but now i look back at the [ __ ] he was saying yeah i was how he lived all of that [ __ ] out yeah i got a whole new respect for it but at the time i always tell them oh i tell these people because i was like yo i was broke so like all that big boy i felt like he was frosting on me i couldn't really yeah i thought like because if if you could say you got money and say you broke go switch your lanes switch to flames and [ __ ] like that you're like you're talking to me right right right damn you looking looking at your [ __ ] he's like you know i mean like he always made me feel like that like to a certain extent like i always say the story um when [ __ ] in paris came out and we was going to a club and i went with one of my friends one of my friends asked me to borrow money and i gave him some bread and we go in the club and my friend is in there they talk about what's 50 grand to a [ __ ] like me when you're pleased with mine what do you mean yeah that's crazy that's crazy so moving on at one point i felt like you thought you were black balls oh yeah definitely i definitely was do you think that's this that really exists in this industry black ball yes absolutely explain that to the people for a new artist basically it's another word for hate you know i'm saying um [ __ ] hate on you or if if they're intimidated by you they'll find a way to to prevent you from reaching your potential in this game and it really exists you know i'm saying executives um djs like [ __ ] [ __ ] will blackboard you and will hate on you i definitely fell victim to that early in my career didn't cause i i think at one point you was eluding so you thought that rockefeller was like blocking you it wasn't me that said that a lot of people always said that like it it always haunted me you know what i'm saying a lot of people like i get i probably get a message like that once a year like yo [ __ ] blocking you know what i'm saying nah yeah real talk and i'm saying but me personally you know i mean i never experienced it right now i'm saying but i i heard it a lot to be honest because of the slave connection i don't know what it was for you know i mean all i could do was assume because then you know what they say about assuming right i never had no problem with no issues with nobody you know what i'm saying but um chan said no requesting yeah i heard that a lot throughout my career and and like what was signs that that you felt that like you ever was trying to get uh records added to the radio uh and and how how was you feeling well well basically when i met slade you know i mean luckily i was fortunate enough that i i created a real serious buzz quick right and you know a lot of people was [ __ ] with me i was just torn i was dealing with job right yeah eventually [Music] yeah it was a rough ride man i look at it like i put like this i missed slaying 0.4 i ain't get a deal to like 07. that's how that's how hard [ __ ] was blocking me but i was touring and you know what i mean i was so consistent that i still was able to shine but every time i got a good night oh yeah i had like 20 something mixtapes but every time i got a good record you know i mean they wouldn't they wouldn't [ __ ] with it you know i'm saying they wouldn't play it and it's part of me very interesting that you bring that up because i did an interview on a breakfast club the other day and envy actually shout out to envy i respect him for being honest he actually admitted it what did he say you [Music] he said yo when pat um first came out you know what i'm saying i didn't play his record because i had a problem with slave he said no camera you know what i mean and i already knew that also he wasn't the only one he was the only one that felt like there was a lot of dj's like that you know what i'm saying damn that's what that dj's been hating on each other was it an organized like black mother they all stick together and i thought it was all good no i mean i'm thinking everything in the industry i see is real so i'm like okay i [ __ ] with slave he work at the radio i'm good so when i started taking my music the [ __ ] and [ __ ] was acting funny i go back to slam like you say what's up with these [ __ ] hey like all honesty is not looking for outside look look look at it it's probably like you already got slate what you need me for not really though because once a week all right 12 o'clock at night i need to be on deck to have a career career you need you need something so i'm trying to build relationships and [ __ ] is acting funny so i'm like yo slay what's up [ __ ] [ __ ] i'm like nah we need them so eventually now me i'm from the street right you know unfortunately i was young and ignorant which i should've never did we started putting hands on certain [ __ ] and i [ __ ] up i made it worse i made a bad situation worse you know what i'm saying so because to tell you the truth right man like i i never i never thought you was blackboard i never did i thought maybe you know i was probably making the wrong moves but i didn't think you was blackboard but for people who says that right like i watched the interview the other day about ollie vegas right mm-hmm ali baker he didn't say it but he was alluding to like these people didn't want him to be as big as nash and i was i wanted to say damn you have to think like that because because i'm just being honest with you i've never been as much times if i've always been around now i've been around jay been around puff i've never heard them even allude to even hating on another brother like i swear to god like i know it's like far fresh to see but like as i like and i'd be always wondering like that's i actually i asked knives if he was black water he said he was blackballed so well let me say this man when i met jay-z he showed me a lot of love and respect and i showed him that respect back you know what i'm saying because he's a legend he's an icon he's everything you know i mean what he say he is nobody could take away from what he did especially being from brooklyn you know i mean you got to salute him same with nods like nice try to sign me at one point i mean now he's reached out to me we met up in lower manhattan me and him and my homie oh we said that we ate pizza and he was he was like yo yeah just the three of us and um he was like yo i'm going over there with jason you know what i'm saying at death jam i want to bring you over there right you know what i'm saying i see big billboards for you all the love and he he i said send an agreement you know i mean it was nice i mean i grew up listening to him right and um he sent the contract over you know what i mean and slay see they say it was like man man this [ __ ] man like this ain't a good one and slave is my big brother you know what i'm saying so pick up the slave by the way yeah pick up the sleigh man i'm gonna get well soon hope you're doing better definitely need him that drink definitely man so um you know i gotta sip that to make it count just the credit just just double down to what you said about those two man i never seen no hate from none of them right yeah i i've never cause like in order for it to be black ball right them to be a part of a black war system you got to have some type of hater in you mm-hmm you understand what i'm saying like there's been times i i brought things to them and they've been like man let these dudes live like you know what i'm saying i'm like i'll say it off camera because you know i'm getting a little deep but i've always heard them like let it go like i never hear see one of them be like yo man you know what let's do it like i see car yeah do that [ __ ] oh wow like i see yeah yeah yeah it's a different name if he wanted to shut you down he goes he gonna say it too like he's gonna he gonna wear it on his sleeve but you know you know what it is with the with that situation i don't even like to speak about it because i'm in a good space man it didn't work i mean now but you know why i work through it but it happened though like with me that's why i like to speak about it because a lot of [ __ ] claim it right and it's not true look at my situation right the [ __ ] is real like the [ __ ] envy just said it on the on the breakfast club the other day basically right you know i mean on the camera like i have gilly and gilly always say that he thought that he but he always says that back in he said he loves podcasting because no one can't block him in podcast so and so what he's trying to say is man i got blocked in rap so you know i always pull it out of him on camera or off camera i'll be like what do you mean he always like you man i'm gonna be honest the more i get got to meet you jay i don't think he was he he would make a call to block any black man from getting money i swear to god like i swear to god make some noise for jay man come on god damn why not you slow yeah yeah so um definitely uh so now a thing that i i didn't think i would see you on and i didn't want to get to the uh the eps 12 in a month right but the thing i didn't expect to see you on and you influenced me to do oh really loving hip-hop mm-hmm like you was the first person i saw in love and hip-hop keep their character and have your character clean like you was never on no [ __ ] [ __ ] you ain't throwing no drinks you ain't doing no no dumb [ __ ] you was always a part of it but what made you even want to join that i didn't want to do it man for those reasons [ __ ] man when my wife was locked up they reached out and they wanted to document you know me me going to visit her and supporting her and all that and me and her spoken was like nah that's not something we want to be a part of because they be throwing drinks and [ __ ] yeah yeah somebody do that [ __ ] to us you know what i'm saying they ain't gonna be good but when we came when she came home we spoke about it again it came with another offer and she was like yo it might be good right because you got a bad reputation and i got a better maybe we could show people that we are human like we got a family you know what i'm saying that was her decision yeah she did cancer oh just like that because you know what if you did you know what's crazy i i forced capone to do that season he was capone was supposed to be on that season oh wow but they couldn't tell us that y'all was doing it had we knew that we just got right aside on the media but i back up on to do it and capone's told everybody how you gonna tell me to do love and hip-hop and he ain't gonna do it but when i saw it was the integrity like you guys stayed the same and not only that you guys made your image even better like i wanted to be a better man yeah i ain't gonna lie when i did it though i was expecting to get to get killed man they're gonna kill me when they see this [ __ ] man i'm on one knee i'm proposing you know what i'm saying and just showing yeah but you know how ignorant [ __ ] [Laughter] it was crazy though when when the [ __ ] it you know i mean i was bracing myself for impact and ain't number love came man i think people was tired of seeing our people when i'm saying depicted like that on the screen i don't know what it was right but i didn't get nothing but love from that [ __ ] mm-hmm you still doing it did you live in atlanta yeah no no i still live in new york are you doing um the atlanta edition no no no i'm not doing it what happened was uh when the cover hit they tried to get us to do the one in the bubble but then you had to you couldn't bring the baby and my daughter was only like probably one years old at the time we wasn't gonna separate from my child like that so we fell back but we're still doing we actually got a new one coming out um real soon i think like next week yeah it's um african genealogy or something to that we went out there and they took out dna and they telling us where we from in africa you know what i'm saying so that's hard i just wanted to join that's what you would do did you travel though no no no they took it like probably a year ago so they took the dna and then we shot it in um atlanta it could be dope if you went to wherever they found your genealogy track i'm going i'm gone i'm going man i can't wait i've never been to africa i'm saying so i can't wait to go i went i went to south africa recently oh wow you shot a film out there yeah it's dope no i can't wait to go they always used to scare me about africa like you gotta get two shots and yeah yeah you got to take a bunch of shots it depends where you go you gotta take shots here take a shot [Laughter] i don't know if this is a white man thing or something but they would always be like you can't drink their water and like yeah but [ __ ] be drinking the mojitos with the ice and that is the water and they'll [ __ ] you up right that's why you go straight that's why you go straight drink straight drinks holy moly guacamole so pat you do loving hip-hop and dude is the music still there the love the love of music is still there because because like i said you guys not only had a strong image it it actually made you a star it actually did what hip-hop hip-hop was meant to do for you you got to a whole nother alley alleyway yeah man yeah that's what happens man when they hate on you that's what happened man you know me god finds another way for you to shine um at that time i made more money off of television than i ever made in hip-hop you know what i'm saying shout out them on the scott man we love you what are the cameras i love you man you can tell them text is good and it was serious oh yeah man i'm over there baby i made a lot of money man i got i always say it many chances i get man i made a lot of money on television so um that's what happens man you know what i mean that that wasn't my plan it just happened like that and doing it your way which is yeah yeah we were gonna out of ourselves you know what i'm saying and falling to the and falling to the dumbness we actually let them know you know what i mean so they they kept it clean and they ain't playing no tricks and nothing like that yeah i talked to ray j the other day he said yeah man i think it's over for me and my wife but i'm going really he goes yeah so i'm not arguing with her to the cameras to cut on i said what what they say he's saying that we're starting to be out of the show the [ __ ] said he's saving his arguments i'm wow for the camera i can't do that i was like you two you're too much invested into this [ __ ] yeah yeah that's what i wasn't gonna do i wasn't gonna go up there and you know make a fool out of myself right you know but it looked like you wouldn't really never argue it like y'all never have problems i mean we human it's not about the argument man it's about admitting when you're wrong because you're not always right i mean you or your or your partner so you know when she was locked up i couldn't touch her right so all we had was communication like when i visited her they would say put your hands on the table right [ __ ] like that so we spoke a lot and throughout that communication we learned even if it's a disagreement if she's speaking i got to be quiet and then when i'm speaking she got to be quiet and when you do that you really see what you was wrong at because you'd be like oh i made you feel like that and i don't be your intentions i'm saying you're like my therapist right now it's real [ __ ] man you know i mean it's communication man we disagree but it don't really escalate to the point of right negativity yeah and y'all both like alphas they're both like go killers they're both leaders so that's the compromise of sitting back in this year yeah you gotta you gotta listen man when she talking you you gotta be quiet and you take your turn now i mean that [ __ ] work out like that all the time do you ever [ __ ] with counseling and [ __ ] like that or not nah we never did it we we considered it though okay one time and we considered it but it never happened yet have you have you ever done it i'm thinking about it right now thinking about it i'm thinking about it right now yes i did it on that boot camp thing no no well boot camp was i'm no marriage boot camp yeah you didn't know councilman yeah that was counseling yeah i enjoyed it but what made you what um what made you want to do it but marriage bootcamp no no i'm not that the counseling like wanting to do it now because i'll be realizing i'm i'm just i'm i'm still human too like i still got okay you know [ __ ] and i and i don't it's not nothing to talk talk about and i i need to i should talk about it you know what i'm saying so um yeah so i've been i've been thinking and i like how charlemagne you know what i mean like he speaks about uh counseling therapy and like yeah like to me so i just want to be a better person man no that's dope that's dope man that's dope so like i said like like what what made you like this i i i was personally seeing you you know when remy was was uh away and i was seeing you in the club being respectful no woman around holding it down like a man and the instagram wasn't popular back then so you could have been popping bottles throwing [ __ ] what made you what made you stay like so solid like that well when you get married man you take vibes right you know what i'm saying you got to listen to those wedding vows when you when you when you do that because you're signing up for that and you you're taking those vows before god right so i take that seriously i'm not going to stand here and say you know to love to honor protect sick and for sick and for uh health richer for paul to death to his part and then go do the opposite right you know what i'm saying so i take that very serious and i i try to live up to it but so you so the whole time you don't have to answer this the whole time [Music] you're a funny [ __ ] [Laughter] okay no we got married um when she blew trout we was getting married because we didn't think she was going to blow i didn't think she was going it was a [ __ ] case tonight and you know when she blew trap we lost our money we had the weather set up on the boat and all that we lost that and i'm saying so we wound up getting married while she was locked up yeah he lost the whole [ __ ] you know me and um we wanted him getting married while she was while she was locked up but even though like in the beginning you know you know reconciling we didn't have conjugal business we still was making it happen we're still finding our way you know what i mean you got married in jail that might be the gangster [ __ ] we got married we got married over the phone at first wow because they can't do the wedding remember when she blew they remanded her they let her go home clean her crib out and then every man right here right there boom so we couldn't do nothing so we we uh timed the paperwork in the courtroom and then that night we did a three-way with the pastor and he married us over the phone man that's why when she came home we had the big wedding all right snuck the papers in there and sounding [ __ ] let's make some noise for that now i don't know if you know but our show is about giving people who they love why they're alive you know who they flowers we didn't invent that uh slogan but we made it famous you know what i'm saying and we got everybody biting our [ __ ] now we're gonna continue to do ourselves right right we want the person to give you your flowers you know what i'm saying oh that's what i'm saying that's what's up man dude i appreciate that okay that's a big deal massive i appreciate that yes sir yes sir now this is where the show gets a little crazy oh [ __ ] you're gonna take a shot glass you got you got your brooklyn drink over there this is where the game get tricky it's called quick timer slime i'm gonna give you two choices oh yeah i heard about this okay yeah okay i'll give you two choices you could you could say one or the other and you're good or if you say both or if you you pass and say you don't want then you have to take a drink okay but all right pretty much i think you're gonna you're gonna slide through this and we drink with you and we drink it with you so you ain't you ain't by yourself don't worry okay let's go okay big l or big pun you gotta drink immediately [Laughter] that's a good one to drink too that's i'm here interviewing black pools that's right and so far we just walked in and with that with you that's three brooklyn [ __ ] y'all broke the [ __ ] what's going on blew my knees cool he said what's up what up bro i'm here as soon as i finish this as soon as i finish this all right cool cool [ __ ] mad get old answering the [ __ ] phone hold on i gotta take the drink because he drank right oh [Laughter] can't answer that that's true hell no it gets worse rock kim or big daddy kane i'm sorry man you're gonna kill us over here yeah you're killing me right now you do this by yourself you made this list by yourself yeah yeah they try to kill you this one i don't know next one i might have to answer yeah dmx or tupac damn that's all let's take this shot i'm going with eggs i love pact though andrew is on tupac we're gonna get to that later i love them both i guess i'll go with eggs okay scarface or ice cube scarface or ice cube i'm going face hmm fashionable rick ross i gotta go with brooklyn okay the locks are mobbed i'm going ugk um i thought you were the outcast i lay off miami i'm going cali okay no problem do say or hennessy hennessy okay sorry man k slick or funk flex k slay that's my brother illmatic or ready to die i gotta go ready to die brooklyn you can't go against brooklyn you can't do it i disagree but i respect it i love that matter but come on man you kidding me the chronicle our eyes on me all eyes on me man okay podcaster radio man i'm saying podcast got that make some noise okay rough ride is a rockefeller that was simple yeah what made you what made you ask me about the rockefeller thing though because i'm doing my due diligence that's crazy that you heard that too though come on man okay those are my guys i'm in the middle okay no no no little kim and foxy questions no more huh let's check it out oh yeah check it out yeah yeah it's not dude yeah they both killed me for the same reasons yeah dr dre dr dre um i got to keep in new york yeah i respect that you're on revolt too right now in case y'all don't got this channel make sure you download yay or pharrell i'll go with kanye i'm going for all day i'm gonna continue my man [Music] i guess so man cause i ain't what's going on b street or crushed grooves um that's hard better eat your eggs while i break your legs um i think i'm gonna go crush groove man shiela e you know that all right blah this is this how we ended with all the quicktime islam and i'm always interested to see how people answer this because to me sometimes this question is a complicated question and sometimes it's just it seems like there's no wrong answer and it's no wrong guys okay okay loyalty or respect noisy i don't need to ask why because man loyalty will enable you to show respect to your loved ones even when they're not around even if they decease or even if they you know me even if they're absent of the situation you're loyal you still show that respect so with loyalty you really get both right um i agree dude see is he the real wrong very complicated so boom now now we getting down i tell you i'm new fat joe maybe almost 20 years i'm doing ups downs you know tax problems no tax problems rich rich rich rich whatever whatever whatever the time i seen about joe the most miserable like is when he was beefing with remy because i know she's her own boss but where did that put you at that state of mind when they when they was beefing because i just i just remember him you know he he went through the cube and [ __ ] he went through the other [ __ ] but it was the time that remy was was going at joe because at the same time 50 was going at joe so where was you at in your mind state when when that's happened um at that time i really didn't i really didn't know joe you know what i'm saying right so i really had no involvement in that to be honest with you i mean it was something that was going on i mean i i can't sit here and say i didn't know what's going on i mean i bear witness to it but i had no involvement and i had no opinion but i just was like damn this is [ __ ] up i mean joe's a legend i mean i grew up listening to joe anyway so to answer a question that i had i had no obama i never had met him at the time right so is there's no discussions of like you know um because i think he did this this record right i don't um did she do a diss record nah she might have said a couple of things yeah but i don't think it was just like a pin right straight going at your children now right but she probably said a couple of lines and some [ __ ] like that so it happens you and joe's brothers now so but you know it's a past it's the past that's which which loves the past is what makes the future so beautiful you know what i'm saying i'm sad you can't appreciate the sun unless the rain well i like the rain when i like the sun it's real [ __ ] so boom they have this fallout it's public did you have anything to do with fixing it absolutely okay i had a lot to do with fixing it you know because let's just be clear after remy came home we all wanted remy on a record right i remember that that was the that was the thing right right well everyone knew we had to deal with pat pools no one had a lion on remy no there was there was no management there was no we no one knew nothing the whole industry so this was on you you you're almost for lack of a better term for my man who just walked in you were almost like safari like we're nikki like you understand well well with me it happened by d4 what i'm saying i'm saying like at one point in the industry and to get to nicki you had to go to sb and at one point when when brimley came home it was the same thing with you the only people people who knew how to get that river you had to go through you so i would say that to say was that how cause joe must've had to reach out to you nah that that's not what happened okay basically basically the responsibility and um you know of somewhat managing her her career i wouldn't say questions i would say this basically when she caught the case and blew trout you know when you go in the kitchen and you turn the lights in the hood and all the roaches scatter that's what happened everybody's scattered the whole team everybody went in a different direction she went in when she yeah when she caught the case because when you catch a case you're in a bad light right right right so nobody want to be around you nobody won't [ __ ] with you really you know what i'm saying so everybody's scattered but when everybody in the process of everybody's scattering and turning their back on her it was a lot of different things that needed to be handled and she was behind the g wall so she couldn't do nothing so i was just was doing what i could do to help her out and what i'm saying because she was a good person you know me and i told her i said yo if you blow child we're still going to get married you know what i'm saying she was she got mad at me when i said that like when you get mad at me she said nah because you know why would you say that i said no i'm just letting you know i'm gonna be there for you um so she blew trout everybody's scattered everybody went a different direction so i'm like damn i still gotta help her out so i just by default i kind of became her manager in the beginning of the bid so when she started coming home people were just reaching out to me to get [ __ ] done so that's why i kind of ended up in that position and um with joe nah she actually came to me and i'm saying she came to me and this was something she never did because remy is not really apologetic i don't think she is she ain't that tight and i'm saying you know i knew rims [Applause] she came to me on one of the visits and she was like yo babe what you thinking you know what i'm saying i was thinking i'm thinking about patching it up with joe you know what i'm saying and me i don't got an ounce of hate in my blood i said hell yeah you need to do that right i mean and i promoted and i pushed her to do it and she did it let's make some noise forever because at one point like joe was so mad about yeah and the beef even trickled down you and joe having a fight right yeah yeah but joe joe was my daughter's godfather man that's crazy i love him so much i'll be honest with you and um one of my favorite people in the world today mister i don't talk about that man i love the reason why i'm even speaking about that or even talking about it is because people a young kid there's a young kid right now watching this interview that can that can say you know what i had smoked wood because you had honorable smoke you ain't had no you had no dumb smoke you have honorable smoke you're just standing by your wife so you by default right it's still still right in this situation so i'm just saying this for anybody who could watch it it ain't about what happened it's about the end result and the end result is here right is when i see y'all together i'm like yo this is nah yo yo bro where the world is anybody who who know me did tell you pap never been a dick rider joe is my god like that's my brother like that like like i [ __ ] with him on another level bro like the love that he he showed me and my family and we show it back it's nothing fake about it man he's very much authentic you know what i'm saying even throughout me putting out all these projects this year yes what i'm saying when i when i get into that don't take over my enemies but i just wanted to say that the reason why i brought that up was to say that yo like when [ __ ] got a little rough i could hit joe and he'd be the phil jackson yo dude just pat do that and i'm saying no hate and [ __ ] there's nothing right i mean joe is one of the only people i know that love to see others win right that [ __ ] is red man yes make some noise so are you writing a rap right now because how did you [ __ ] you put on 12 prizes that's very interesting that you said that because word is bond that's how i create bro like you'll say some [ __ ] some fly [ __ ] and it's already yeah i'll flip it and i hold it for later you know what i'm saying so so you don't need to do the voice memo um to be honest with you now that i'm a little older yeah when i was younger you know oh you could just have it in your brain yeah i like to beat the whole round in my brain like when big said it everybody started saying all right but for me that [ __ ] was my reality like i didn't need to write because i loved it so much it wasn't my choice the lyrical bar [ __ ] that you doing writing it down nah stop i didn't need to bro let me see you don't be jealous i know you got voice memos i'm gonna tell you why i'm gonna tell you why i don't know why stop you can't decision let me just say you write that [ __ ] down but let me explain i idolized [ __ ] who could write all right i look up to y'all because if i sit here with a pen and paper i might rap about the [ __ ] pen in the paper you know what i'm saying so that's hard to pay for them yeah i might rap about that [ __ ] you might hear me rapping about the paper i create throughout the course of my day throughout my experiences i take that [ __ ] in and i i regurgitate it through the rap but holding that memory is i think where he's really is when you love it so much you're going to remember it i love this [ __ ] so i'm you know me you need to smoke some weed so you just you keep these memories just like like if a bar strike you right now mm-hmm because i listen i i i who the [ __ ] was there i had dinner with yay and every time someone said something just going like this but he was like i'm looking like this thing just bar me up every time i said something people say the dope is [ __ ] but they don't know it all right you know what i'm saying so me as an artist i'm like oh this [ __ ] just says such and such i'm using that later you don't even know what he just said he just gave me a ball so he goes throw some [ __ ] forward [Music] [Laughter] yes man man i watched you because i wanted to do my due diligence on um ebro and you said you did it through tunecore yeah this is with new artists can you explain to new artists what tunecore is because i got a tunecore account it's not working out for me i see you talking about tunecore yeah cam is on here talking about tunecore can you explain to new artists coming up right now that's trying to get out there in memphis they're in oklahoma they're in ohio they don't know how to get to new york they can't afford to get to new york can you tell them and one thing did you do a deal directly with the company tomb corps or is it like anybody else that's doing a tuned course put that in my institute okay artist if you're drowning in the uh in the hudson river mississip any river or ocean whatever tunecore is your life raft right you know what i'm saying that's the best way i could describe it um remember i had a 1.5 million deal he said it earlier make some noise for that 1.5 million my job yes my first deal was 1.5 million yes um worst mistake ever in my life i'm taking that deal but um let me say this let me say this when i lost my deal when i lost my deal and the world turned they back on me toon call was dead and tunecore basically all these different distributors that you might sign with they're going to take a percentage right of the money you make tunecore doesn't do that they only charge you to upload the music so once you upload the music the profit is all yours my friend and you're on all the digital streaming platforms so when i said i was going to do an album every month i was actually dealing with a distributor and he turned his back on me he said empire i ain't gonna put him on blast not empire i deal with empire in the past before too but tunecore is better than all that this is a drink chance this is where people i know i know man i know man he owe me money he owe me money so i ain't going to i ain't going to [ __ ] on him yeah when i get my money i'll come back i [ __ ] on him all right [ __ ] you know what i'm saying he's a loser this guy this guy is very elusive so i'm gonna wait so i catch him and get my money and then i [ __ ] on all right i don't know what elusive means [Laughter] he gets away i'm trying to catch him i can't get my hands though you know you grab a [ __ ] everybody's shirt and they slip out these shirts like he's one of them what is that he ain't going to say his name you know what i'm saying but um so yeah everybody turned it back on me and um when i said i was going to do the album each month this guy was like yo you're overlapping yourself it's not going to work you can't put out another album next month and like right now i got good problems like i got a record with fabulous you know ninja maine dupree but at the same time i got a record with rick ross and at the same time i got a record with lil wayne two changed buster rounds and my wife produced by timberland so i got three records i got three records at once and dj's just like yo all these [ __ ] is hot i don't know which one to play right you know what i'm saying so but this is what he was kind of saying he was saying you're gonna man i'm like yo i can't follow the industry way of releasing this old school way because this [ __ ] don't work for me like that's what i want new artists to understand when you look at these artists that's uh he's mainstream this is what i want y'all to understand when you look at these mainstream artists out here and they're you know they're releasing their music they're promoting their music they doing the super bowl they're doing all this spectacular [ __ ] all these you know different ways of marketing their music and you want to be like them or whatever you inspire to be or whatever you cannot follow them because that doesn't work for you the industry format and the industry way of releasing music it didn't work for me at all so i said to myself you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna create my own format and my own pattern in my own way of releasing music i'm gonna drop an album every month and everybody told me don't do it this [ __ ] ain't gonna work but guess what it was the best [ __ ] i ever did in my life goddamn make some noise but explain explain to the artist because this is this is weird that which is for this is for the kid that is dope as [ __ ] in his mama's house right so explain why this is the dopest [ __ ] this is the best thing i ever did because i don't have to wait for no label you know what i'm saying to approve my music when i put it out you know putting it through tune call also um i need a job i get my money every that's working on that that's what i'm saying that's what i'm wondering that you guys working on let me tell you something artist every single monday of 2021 i had a check waiting for me every month from tunecore because i put out so much music and it reacted the people embraced it so when you when you when you're trying to put out an album once a year the big shots the big dogs could do that you're not a big dog you got to work way harder than them and you got to a certain extent you got to outwork them that's right yeah you know what i'm saying buster called me and said yo pat you all worked everybody this year you know what i mean but you got to do that if you want to eat and you want to be successful because let's be honest a year ago from now they wasn't talking about my music like how they talking about it or even considering it how they are now but by the grace of god i was so consistent that they have no choice but to acknowledge my my work you know what i'm saying so you know what i mean uh doing that was the best thing i did bro i don't even know how to to describe it but tunecore is a way that you can do it at your own discretion you can say all right my album is finished i want to put it on the digital platforms you uploaded the tune call you paid a little ten dollars or whatever that's a one-time fee yeah that's it everybody that buy your music all that money come to you i mean and i made a lot of money this uh and i imagine putting out so many joints it's like with streaming now it compounds like that's that's where it's positive because streaming is like you got all this catalog now right you build up catalog and you actually you get into streaming now streaming let's be honest if you were selling records back in the days they didn't have streaming and now they're streaming you never saw no records bro it's a whole different way of releasing music you've never streamed before so for me when i started doing that i actually started streaming now i was just never streaming until i did this [ __ ] to pay attention so it was a great thing it was the best thing i had everybody told me don't do even my wife you're going to release an album every month i just down the third she tried to stop me you know what i'm saying and she hated me last year when i did that [ __ ] because i was so focused once that's actually true told me don't do reggae though don't do it i just thought you was joking when you said you was doing it it works i'd rather just say don't do it but so yeah and you proved them wrong right i didn't i didn't mean to because i love them some noise for yeah worm but uh jeez that was that was dope that that that was really thank you man shout out to all the artists who've seen what i was doing man and and decided to be a part of it right like i started feeling like i was creating my own platform right because big dogs wanted to be a part of this [ __ ] and when i reached out it was no resistance you know what i mean shout out to uh little wayne let's let's stay right there first yeah let's stay right here i got a list shout outs yeah um wayne not only did the record he did the video come on man you see what i'm saying that was hard you see what i'm saying that's hard like explain that you know what it is man like this is the papoo's outside [Laughter] and every question you asked me earlier you see what i said i said oh new york i'm going to new york yeah i'm going with brooklyn yeah i represent but when you come up and you look up to these guys and you come in the game and you you winning and they don't embrace you but you got a guy from out of town a whole nother region embrace you and show love not only do the record do the video yeah cause that's that's a statement it's it's a statement and it says a lot as to why our city got pushed to the back burning this thing all right because a lot of people don't like to see others win but it's just lil wayne man solid dude man so how would happen um well i always knew what some of your issues i always knew i always knew i always knew wayne rock with me man because when he was when he was on record selling mcmahon hit slay up and was like yo yo wayne [ __ ] with pac-man you [ __ ] with alphabetical slaughter it was a song i had when i broke down wow yeah yeah you better go there he was like yo wayne [ __ ] with him heavy man like you know what i'm saying this thing i was like work i'll be honest with you i tried to i tried to visit him i couldn't do it though i mean but i always knew that he [ __ ] with me you couldn't do it because you couldn't get there or because i went to the island i'm gonna keep it a buck oh and then it was like it wasn't right it was i wasn't on the list right i didn't get it you need to go check that yeah that's real [ __ ] that's real strong i went and tried to chop it up with him i didn't that didn't work out i didn't even i never got a chance to tell him that um when i went there drake was going in to see him actually i seen him drinking the visit and going through or they pushed you back for drinking humble uh they pushed me back away but you know i always knew he [ __ ] with me or just offer that so when i started doing the monthly projects i said yo man i just want to get artists on these projects that i respect and wayne is a [ __ ] i respect i reached out to him and world was born he hit me right back bro wow i sent him the joint one night i'm laying in the bed my wife sleep the baby sleep i'm looking through my email i'm like what the [ __ ] is this i turn the [ __ ] on this is little wayne i jump out the bed i start dancing in the crib oh [ __ ] i'm hearing the wayne burns you know what i'm saying i'm like wow this [ __ ] did this [ __ ] that quick i'm talking about it was quick bro yeah i was happy he's a workhorse solid solid dude man everything he said he was gonna do he did it never faked a jack never pumped fake all right so i'm an artist so i know once you get diverse we all feel like dj khaled right i feel like the first person [Applause] i'm an artist i know that's one part of the inquiry right getting the votes right that's the fact but then the next part is getting it clear mm-hmm and then getting the video clear so what what was that process i told you earlier man i built my own motto of releasing music so i'm releasing every 30 days okay so once you so and you need signatures from these artists yeah i mean eventually you got to you got to do all that you got to do the business so i got my guy in on the business side he yo he's got the wing burst we need to handle it he's handling it i'm communicating with mac main right you know what i'm saying we're putting everything together to make sure everything is right same with ross right but i got to do it fast now because this [ __ ] got to come out on the 31st all right every month i really can't wait for nobody you know what i'm saying so crazy i'm working that this is the pace i'm working at so as i'm getting first the 31st of every month the 31st the last day of every month i'm dropping regardless of whom or what what did you do on february the last day of that month this is very very important for artists most artists think because they got money and and and they can pay for uh a weighing verse right yeah but money can't buy you love yeah yeah yeah but what they don't understand is this these signatures this this this this oh yeah you got it you got to clear it yeah you gotta have it get clean you got to get clearance you got to have good graces and i'm saying cause i'm gonna take lessons i'm gonna tell you why i lucked up with my weighing record i had a record with wayne and wayne did the same thing with me just send it right back to me boom and went to the did the video sean pectors what's up man oh oh [ __ ] what is that we i'm live on drink chance by the way just just okay guys what up bro what's good my god man [ __ ] chopping it up everybody great man just work it man trying to make it happen no doubt you know it bro yo what whatever [ __ ] is under those stars boy y'all cc man come on man you ain't come on my show yet you lost weight and changed on [ __ ] come on man come on man pull up on us cece it's just i just watched your documentary again come on come on pull up on us man come here on me all right no problem all right my brother all right cool god no problem love look my brother yeah i'm sorry pepper we we asked our phone during the interview i'm professional no no we're very we're the most professional okay talk about i was very into that fight what's the topic we got we gotta remember come on come on verse all right yeah so what happened was i didn't know that so i was throwing out independent music and i wasn't getting no signatures you just put it out i was just putting it out [ __ ] but wayne they they they straighten me up with rain when i talk to the wayne one who who's there universal everyone they straighten me right up but it was lucky because birdman had lived in my building at the time um but birdman also checked me say hey playboy you want a favor for me you don't have them folks call me i charge them folks um so i realized i couldn't have anybody call anybody from wayne camp other than me that's the secret though that's the secret that's our artist are we blowing [ __ ] up right now you got to have relationships cause [ __ ] like us you can have a team you know it goes back to what i was saying earlier what worked for these [ __ ] don't work for mm-hmm like me when i reach out the artist myself and i get [ __ ] done right they're not passing to the team what i'm saying it's security to finalize it right but when you got people reaching out you going smack you're gonna bang them and they gonna call you and say you said this much you i just saw this [ __ ] like i saw this thing in the gym and it was like he stepped to me like he worked cause he's saying birdman is like you know yeah he ain't [ __ ] at all i don't know like it was me and him one-on-one he was like hey boy i don't know why i keep hearing playboy he's like hey play boys like damn birdman he's like i got you playing boy all right cool but i'm like damn i thought i was going to get this [ __ ] 250 000. right jesus [Laughter] and he's a good [ __ ] so i haven't seen him in a while but big you are bird man so but now i haven't dealt with that rain dwayne that you're talking about now now it's mcmahon that lane is was still there but now cause this is a lot of people should understand about you and bust the rhyme situation and wayne and baby situation is once they kind of found out this the discrepancies both kind of made it right right like after whatever wayne was beefing with baby and whatever they made it right and and they moved on and i remember like you and buster kind of um bumping heads i don't know what it was because i was it was just an industry you know talk not me but never had a problem busting a slate they spawned a lot oh they spawned a lot but that but still sharp is still that's just what it was it was just farming with them they love each other later on i'm saying they spotted oh so you were just caught in between cause that that's the one yeah we never had me and boss never had an issue man really i mean bust a guy that broke me out on stage man and the crowd started screaming and i was looking around like who they screaming for you know it was me i was used to being a regular [ __ ] at the time i mean he must have changed my life man that's my big brother so we never had a problem but you know i mean him and my brother slade they just spawned a lot that's how they are you know two strong-headed [ __ ] have used at the video shoot when that [ __ ] yeah i was that touching um the video that changed my life man video on the song i never forget it but break it down sir uh i'm just saying that the record being on the record you yeah i couldn't go to the mall no more right i went from standing on the corner hustling and doing justice to being a famous person over that record what i mean wow i had a name for myself that's what got me on the record but that record changed my life man i can't lie to you and it's crazy because when me and my man oh went to the studio and buster called me i fell asleep i was so tired he said you got to get to get on this song right here i put the beat on i fell asleep in the studio i fell asleep right there biggest record of my life i fell asleep [ __ ] they woke me up and my man oh right here he could tell you i woke up i went right in the booth i wrote that that verse in my sleep yo man just you got to stop see that [ __ ] he never lied i wrote that verse that's a spiritual show yeah that's this sounds too perfect let's just keep it real this is even the story yeah i knocked out in the studio woke up right in the booth cause that's what they all right this is why your story sounds a little crazy used to say that's what big used to do see what i'm saying they should say big used to go like this close his eyes and then like 20 minutes later he'd just go in the booth so did you know that i didn't hear that one i did hear that big didn't write well he's the first one before jay jar there's one that we know of first one who said that right it became cool once big said it yeah yeah and and for me i was like oh this is cool this is what i really like but but just describe to people like all right describe to not writing means listen this is what you got to understand for me i can't speak for big for me i'm such a fiend right when it comes to hip hop i love this [ __ ] so much that if i because you don't you only write it down to remember it you create it first in your head before you write it when you're writing you're sitting with a pen and paper you think of this [ __ ] and you write it down so you don't forget right i don't need to put it down so i don't forget i'm not going to eat i'm not going i used to my wife smoked me out you know what i'm saying you don't have to be tired you keep tightening my lungs you're good you want to come back home yeah i'm good we got you all the way outside you knew we had to if i wanted to i can't write so wait wait but hold up but when you spit it from memory is that with flow the way you're gonna flow it no i can't let you get away with that everything everything you already have the way you're gonna take the beast a little bit you ain't a hundred percent the [ __ ] said i can't get you like you get me you didn't start not writing down you had to start right here that's when i realized if i [ __ ] keep holding this pen this paper i'm going to rap about this printing this paper there's been a lot of rhymes i realized i need to rap throughout the course of my day so i can rap about different [ __ ] do my experience he's just mad that you don't have a notepad throughout the course of the day you are correct yes i am and nowadays i kept like i said i can't we just work with kanye for like a week and everything that was dope that that kanye just heard he just kept voice noting it see he's smart though he's taking notes man he's droning life experiences and putting his music right he's smart you do that with your with your brain yeah i do that i make sure i remember like [ __ ] that happened it'd just be so you know what i mean it'd be it but that's a talent that moment that's unique not everybody can do that well i'm i'm blessed man i get the credit you know i mean [Music] everybody [Laughter] you know what it was too putting out 12 albums in one year you know how you got [ __ ] that run down the road it says eps is it actually it's albums because uh album is uh i think seven or more i thought seven or more yeah tracks okay tracks you know me okay but let me say this though google is labeling the eps though when i google it oh they got to get this [ __ ] right let's get this [ __ ] right but it's albums but let me let me say this though you know how [ __ ] run down yo no you man i'm saying put me on bro are you i'm trying to rap i'm trying to do this you know what putting out 12 albums in the year did for me it got all them [ __ ] out my face because it's not real let me explain right so me i've been in the game for a while i love your ace of spades he thinks this is fueling this but let me tell you right i've been in the game for a while right i had a million dollar deal 1.5 sir don't forget i toured overseas you know i mean i did records with nori yeah you don't mean records with knives records for all these great people right and i'm really working hard hard enough to release over uh 70 some of my songs in one year 12 albums in one year that's crazy and you and what i turn the number when they come to me with the handout [ __ ] how many your rapper how many songs you put out how many albums you put out so i shouldn't be out working you so if i'm not working you that mean you're not hungry i only want to hear from you they eliminated pretty much everybody yeah because you want you want me i'm going hard like i want this so if you're not working as hard as me or more don't come to me for that hand out i owe you something [ __ ] that entitlement [ __ ] i don't wanna hear that but we put out how many episodes you put out a year you say we're in the same league yeah we're in the same league listen pat that [ __ ] you did is amazing you might as well take another shot let's do it just so i'm drunk already guys i went too heavy on the shot you ain't got to do that that's a heaven i went japanese whiskey this is that flashy y'all let's do it man you know what i'm saying i'm hitting loops yo hmm veteran [ __ ] can't do what you just did [ __ ] that been out can't do what you did that's why we all sat back and was like wait a minute this is something different and we thought i'mma be honest this this i'm part of a couple of group chats um people thought you was gonna miss a month sir they was hoping [Laughter] [ __ ] thought she was going to miss you can't remember that many runs yeah yeah wait they weighing my luck yeah i was watching too nah i wasn't going to let it up bro even if you're under the weather some somebody passed away you know me something happened you got to keep going so what's the process when you recording january's album is it already recorded in december um that's what i should have did that's what i [ __ ] up at in the beginning stop all right getting too crazy because for a couple years right i've been saying yo next year i'm dropping the album every month and then next thing i know it's february and i drop [ __ ] all right so this month i said damn all right i'm dropping the hour many months this year but what i should have did was what he said i should have did in january and december i didn't do that that's why each project had to drop on the last day of each month because i didn't have [ __ ] ready right so i used the month i used the 30 days to create so when i dropping on january 31st i'm like i'm at the finish line i'm exhausted i'm out of breath i'm sweating i'm wiping the sweater with the towel and i'm like all right i got some time february the last what's the shortest month of the year the last day of february okay i got to do it again let's go march same [ __ ] i'm creating this [ __ ] as i go along i did november in one day one day yo as the year progressed i got better i got so crazy with it because i it's like floyd mayweather doing punches you know what i'm saying oh wait a minute man okay you need to start banking albums like we do podcasts that's how we just called the albums november oh yeah january each one was titled after current month on the last day that was the title that's the title of the album each album was typing after the current month that was probably my whole concept also very cocky sir i don't ever want to come across like that cause i was a cocky when i was young man and i grew out of that [ __ ] you know what i mean i always try to stay humble so i hope i ain't coming across cocky no no no no no no no no no in a respectful way okay okay do we open another bottle of ace i feel like it's it's warranted right i believe it's your turn to open age i'm already hit because we got to make sure you have no problem now my car was parked in the airport like i said our show is about giving people their flowers now i appreciate it i got my flowers yes yeah and pat you know i'm gonna tell you the truth i appreciate this [ __ ] stay with us with the flowers as soon as we we heard that we were booking you thank you man i went and i listened and i said damn bro i said that might have been pap's problem not that he was blackballed is that lyrically you actually you said that you actually yeah you actually in 20. all right brooklyn [Laughter] you're actually like i'm saying this with all love like you might be in year 2088 with your boss nah for real i'm saying this like like like when you pour something sir um you know what i was arrested yeah i dumped it i pawned me man i made a mess i dumped it down that's how i started getting more features man i kind of realized that no cocky [ __ ] i said damn man nobody wanna do songs with me man i said you know what and and then i was so hip-hop real [ __ ] i was so hip-hop and i was so young minded and notice i said i was so hip-hop all right oh if i'm doing a song with you i'm i'm gonna lie i'm trying to go in right right i mean but as you get older you start to learn how to make music right it's not about having the best songs yeah it's about having the best song right yeah so if i do a song with you almost about having the best chemistry yes like yeah i would do [ __ ] like no me let's go in the studio together or you know i mean um i wouldn't send you my verse now i do a verse real quick and i send you my verse here take my verse man i want you to i want you to kill me on this verse cause when you when you put in the effort to kill me that's gonna make it a better record you know what i'm saying so as you get older you learn and when i started learning that and started doing that i was able to get more features i'm i'm featuring with people i never feature with in my life right now right cause you we started with little wayne now let's you say you had a list let's let's get to that list you said lil wayne yeah lil wayne listen on these monthly projects yeah i got lil wayne i got fabulous i got fabulous i've been living in brooklyn my whole life i've never had a song with that yeah fabulous a different [ __ ] you know what i'm saying shout out to fab he's a different [ __ ] though i got rick ross rick raw bigger i got two chains i got um busta rounds i got my wife i'm i'm sorry because i feel like we should be making noise for every one of those guests so let's start all over let's start over let's start all over here [Applause] okay rick ross jose fabulous [Applause] [Applause] [Music] i [Music] [Applause] so many great people man i was able to work with this [ __ ] bro on your [ __ ] on my [ __ ] on my label honorable records honorable that's the name of your life distributed but yeah honorable records you're supposed to start out with that saying that sorry my bad honorable records is the name of my label it's the new death row the before money that's just rivals distributed by two court man let's just try with it i feel like this is the new ceo of two court right now i ain't gonna lie i'm about to throw some [ __ ] out of going because you got you gonna get your money one thing you know you're gonna get your money yeah so you never worked with uh e1 or um uh my mangazi uh empire i never worked with e1 i worked with ghazi you know what i'm saying but ghazi is it's kind of hard to work with ghazi really and i've talked to other people and they said the same i mean i don't want to talk bad about that you know what i'm saying but it's difficult you know me as an artist when this is your bread and butter right and you don't really have no solid communication with your record label or your distributor communication is key and ghazi has a history of failing to communicate properly and i know a lot of artists who watch this they like this right on paper i'm saying because this [ __ ] is a fact bro really yeah yeah i've talked to other other artists and that's the issue and for me i couldn't do that all right i couldn't i can't do that i can't i need to communicate like this is how i'm feeding my family right i mean you can't you know so that was that so yeah because you know guys my man i hooked him up with fat joe and they they made a lot of money together yeah i mean you know money money is good money is good also squashing people fat joe and um jay-z i don't know if you know that that's dope i remember that i remember on the record yeah me [Music] [Laughter] yeah listen to me i just want to say i just want to say this man what you've done here yes please i salute you bro look at that look at this money yeah that's my son over there come in here with the wild head over there right there but you see what i said when i sat down sit down man this [ __ ] is a real production like doing them tv shows and [ __ ] you know me from vh1 i've witnessed real solid production i know what a real production is i come here and i see y'all brothers setting up see everything i just want to salute y'all i wish i had another one i'll give you flowers doing this [ __ ] you made a whole transition right from doing the rap [ __ ] to this [ __ ] and then you got everybody following you mm-hmm so salute everybody doing podcasts now just like everybody doing reggaeton too this is because it's true let's be clear everybody they realize oh [ __ ] you want to go to that party they went and did it again man again man like i think i think because what do you what do you consider is your biggest record that you was on that i was on my biggest record yeah i'm going to say thought i was going to stop remix featuring two chains busting rounds bring me a little wayne goddammit out right now on all digital platforms wait wait my new record my new single it's called thought i was going to stop featuring two chains busting rhymes little wayne remy produced by timothy who records with lil wayne no he did the original and he's doing a remix so we got the video i got out here i got two million views in the first two days that's that's big shout out to my brother will see antenna street street entertainment guys video is out we did two million views first two days i know y'all rappers do a billion views but for me that's a good look i'm from brooklyn sidewalk yeah yeah and then everybody is different too independent i'm from green bridge between hoping saratoga that's a good look for me all right let's make this video this is me and like if you would google me and efn's biggest arguments that's consistent on this show it's this one argument what's that it should have been on quicktime with slime we already established i don't know what this argument bro i said major or independent that's really what it is but you said earlier i had 1.5 million dollar deal it's the worst worst mistake of my life man why would you say that worst thing i ever did was took that deal with you and you had chris light here around at that time rest in peace to chris ladies explain this sir worst mistake i ever made in my life okay listen listen young up-and-coming artist i don't know what he's about to say but let's let's just take the facts of what was what is about to be articulated he said he had 1.5 million dollar deal but let's be yeah the deals that's not another 400 000 for marketing that had nothing to do with the 1.5 right so it's pretty much two million okay uh basically yeah that's 1.99 [Laughter] okay you got a kid from brooklyn right you got a peasy head kid from brooklyn i'm saying from the sidewalk i don't wear that on my sleeve as you see i promote black love positivity but i'm tougher than a lot of these [ __ ] anyway i come from brooklyn i'm from the sidewalk and he makes it into the music business right he's grinding he doesn't have a record deal this is me i'm talking about i'm talking through your serving third person my seventh third person's following this kid he's narrating his story this kid is from brooklyn everybody's room for him coincidentally this is the same people that knew him before he signed a deal with case lady but they're rooting for him now it's cool i embrace the love i'm working hard i'm building up a buzz i gain that i'm on the radio now i'm doing tours i'm doing tours i'm performing from state to state every other day i'm releasing music on a constant basis this [ __ ] goes on from 04 to 07. i never had a record there all that time everybody thought oh pap is up papa's high i never had a record deal i was getting show money i was getting feature money and i was touring now i signed a record deal in 2007 so basically i was independent that whole time getting money right once i signed the record deal you have people telling you have individuals in white shirts and suits telling you oh you don't need to make that record like that you need to make it like this a little right i lost oh john records i lost all creative control at that point let's let's be particular um who is the ceo's is barry weiss this guy is that david this guy from uh job records he's an [ __ ] what's his name he goes by the name of jeff fenster he's the devil singing himself yeah yeah i don't think i'm gonna put him out there okay you went there you ever heard this guy no what'd you say his name is jeff finster no but let's talk about [ __ ] [ __ ] this this dude is this dude is the worst guy you ever want to meet in your life i hope he's watching cause i'm still here i'm still alive and you wanted me there ain't getting money you try to ruin my life i'm still getting money my family's still eating and i live in a mansion in new jersey so you didn't stop nothing i think you got to make some more today you know you you you tried it in my you tried to end my career you know you hated on me you did everything you could think of but i don't blame you for that brother i don't blame you so what i'm saying what happened explain to us basically this guy lied this guy lied myself and my brother k slade man who changed my life who the first who the only one that gave me an opportunity to do [Applause] we had a bidding war numerous record labels were interested in sounding me at the time i told you i sat down with knives he was going to death jam with jay-z he wanted me to come over there um atlantic you talk about jive records on the same block as violated at that time right yep a bunch of different record labels were having a bidding war for me at this time right this was a dream come true for me don't let me sit here a lot of you a lot of guys come up here ain't a rapper i'm a hustler and a rap i'm a gangster i'm a rapper i'm embracing it i'm saying i was happy let's make some noise [Applause] i was happy to be having this moment you know what i'm saying and um it was a bidding war a lot of different labels wanted to sign me so it's just so happens i linked up with buster rhymes who had a relationship with chris laity introduced me to chris chris so i mean the violator chris is the best president but you got to break down what was your violator violated volatile management management was street sweepers entertainment violent management boston rhymes and k-slate did a joint venture so now street sweeper slash flip mode you understand what i'm saying but now i'm my own boss so it's even better for me now but we're going back let's go back so now i signed with violator i'm sorry i didn't sound without you don't sign the management you would be a dummy right i link up with violator when you're working so now i got this bidding war and seven hundred thousand offer over here four hundred thousand from naza over here he's going to death gym which case late wasn't with my brother and i trust him you know what i'm saying um job comes in at 1.5 million all right it's not that we money hungry our brother chris lighty is the president in that job so we like this dave lightning that was the a r no chris lighty was the president okay okay all right all right cool so we like it's a no-brainer chris the president gucci we go to live we go to job right we go to job we look on the internet a week later chris lady is not the president no more we like what the [ __ ] [Music] you couldn't get inside of information what's going on what do they mean you not the president no more this is where the bad not coming off though if it does you know it's about to go you just kind of would have [ __ ] restarted it so we like damn chris is not the president okay we rolling with the punches he's give an explanation i'm still i'm still going to communicate this is where he brings this devil in by the name of jeff fenster he's going to be handling your project now so just to summarize it with this [ __ ] did i hate to talk like this man i try to be positive man you gotta let it go this is therapy for you right right it's therapeutic so we're doing records right so we're in the meeting and i'm playing all of my records and me and slayer like all right these are the three records we think can be singles so this guy's like okay i'm going to play all three records for the owner of the label who signed me who which was the reason why everybody at the label was mad what that was that barry weiss or barry whites and peter theo was the two bosses at that john when i signed they flew me out and the guy told me my face i signed you because my son is defending lord library this is why he signed me this is why all the workers that the label were mad because i didn't come to nothing i went straight to their boss they hated my guts at the label what i'm saying so i'm talking that talk about this this is real [ __ ] i can't make this up if i try it so all these [ __ ] at the label is mad and i'm saying because i i won't throw a couple of these things on the bus i ain't gonna do it oh good no i don't do it everybody at the label he's on your left shoulder i'm on your right do it when you're ready so check it out so check it check it i'm on job records now you got to remember this is the r b label so at that time no you know the formula you put your [ __ ] out you get an r b [ __ ] you out of here you're going to the moon and who's the rv [ __ ] everybody's on the label chris brown t-pain oh kelly thank god i ain't do that one um you know what i'm saying i'm gonna keep going i'm gonna keep going to a lot of r b [ __ ] on this label i'm on the label my deal 1.5 million so what they doing is they mad because i signed directly to their boys they blocking all the arm b [ __ ] off my project i'm talking on b [ __ ] about doing features and they blocking them this is the beginning of your blackballing yeah yeah he don't think it's real i'm trying to tell him these [ __ ] following you i live this [ __ ] so they blocking me they blocking all the r b [ __ ] off my project i'm like damn this is [ __ ] up you know what i'm saying so this guy jeff finster me and me and my brother kate slate we in the meeting we played the three singles he's like okay i'm gonna take these three singles and i'm gonna play them for the owner of the label so we can push one out there you know i mean one though we wanted to get snoop on what snoop got on shout out to my brother's new dog he got my first single um so he comes back to us this guy jeff fenster who [ __ ] we you know got this illegitimate [ __ ] about default because chris lighty's no longer the president he comes oh he's the president at this point this guy this i don't know what he is what the title this [ __ ] uh don't let me call him what i want to call him okay so he comes back to us and he's like yo i played the records for um the owner of the label and this is the one he likes and we like damn you sure okay so this is the single the single go out what's that just so hap oh it's it's it's [ __ ] um i think it's banging out featuring snoop dogg but we had another one that was more commercial called fitted hat low so we had the label one day and we see the owner of the label and he we like yo you you know we're glad you liked the record you're like we're glad you like the record see like one record it's only one record so this [ __ ] lied about playing the music for the owner because he wanted the record to come out that he wanted to come out it's not even that he wanted the record to come out he wanted to pay snoop dogg so he could get kicked back which was seventy thousand dollars wow you understand i'm saying this is the [ __ ] [ __ ] this this is why this is why i'm saying what i'm saying to you this is what he did so he lied about playing the records to the owner of the label then he chose a record which he can overcharge my budget for because none of them was able to take a penny on my budget which is why he was mad wow he lied about that whatever he did he did the [ __ ] [ __ ] now we see it on the label we probably found out he didn't even play the music for the [ __ ] the single was out already so before they find out he did the [ __ ] [ __ ] he got me off the label real quick i'm saying and when you say got it with the label that's like the famous thing where people say you got dropped you got drugs well they couldn't drop me like a bat they dropped me but they couldn't drive me like a bad habit cause me in case they negotiated to deal with we keep the 1.5 make some noise you gotta drop the benefits all right you know what i'm saying so we got off we got off the label man i hope i'm not saying too much no you're good no no this is what this is what this is what happens if anything i'm gonna tell you something pat as an artist when you if i do a song with you you do a song with me i wanna want my fans to [ __ ] with you i want my your fans to [ __ ] with me so essentially this is what this is this is the first time i ever traded fans like every time i did a record with a person i want to date fans um the only time i ever got their fans is reggaeton this is being honest that's what features are you thinking about kelly when i did a regular hog kelly you got his fan sorry yeah look my only record i ever did with jay-z is with r kelly damn why you guys yo i sent all of my core fans who follow me i sent all kelly cure this is for my core fans who buy my music every month i sent them cure yo no i sent them cure and him in this little uh minions whatever you call them they play games but i ain't really mad at them because they was under the influence of the [ __ ] [ __ ] you know what i'm saying but whatever man you went right over my head you said i'm curious i had a record called cure that eventually erica do did it this [ __ ] is crazy that's better i want you to hear it man no but at the time i'm the hottest [ __ ] in the world my dear one fight 1.5 million just keep talking about that it's out of here right right that's time that that that time frame at that time but nobody knows right all right i'm gonna be known to everybody okay so but unfortunately so this is the time so you you you calling your label to try to get r on the record you're calling your label to try to get i'm on i'm on the label with these guys we labelmates yeah who is it r kelly it's r kelly t payne well i [ __ ] the t-pain thing though i can i can own that that was my what happened with t-pain sir oh cause i could see it in your face something happened when i went when i went to the t-pain party so we can lock the deal in for him to do the record somebody got beat up you know what i'm saying i ain't gonna talk too much about that but that was my fault you know i mean they have more timberlands yeah maybe this is why i'm like this is live of course no see pain was the only guy on the label who was going to do a record with me eventually at that time oh no i'm saying i was told when i first signed to the label that chris brown expressed that he would do a record with me but they kept him away from me because they was hating on me too what i'm saying this is pre-rihanna yeah i'm actually yeah this is back then you know what i'm saying before i mean but thank god i'm in a great space now and i got my new single thought i was gonna stop featuring to change i'm in a great space man but this is therapeutic yeah yo everybody's stuff that people can learn from that's really at the end of the day people can learn from all these experiences gotcha and by the way look this is what's the name of this watch right there right there on the bar telly and time tally and twine antoine this is a black owned watch company yeah it's a and just met them they want to collaborate with drink champs they sent over some watches for both of us you got the same watch same watch you couldn't put it on today sir you know that's for special occasions i wear it all right classy watch we got to get you you got to get you back into watches yeah i got my eyebrows man yo i've seen pictures of you back in the days you was jewish my man i was like yo make sure you call him dj efn he don't like when they call him effing man oh you're a legend he's a legend he's a legend but let's just finish this because um timely twine this is fine they know what they know my heart is in the right place not really great dudes uh they say they love that the smell no the only i think black owned luxury watch company right this is five bands yeah from what they told me this is five man that [ __ ] is fighting yeah this is black owned yeah i like that [ __ ] yeah i told him that earlier yeah you know he when i was he's yeah we gon we should do um because i don't know how to pronounce your last name my last name yeah no man we are not elegant at all we are not looking you drinking i'm drinking my moana it's not that like you're really gonna just sit out and now pampers you you're out here with your yo i see you outside i mean the minimum you know that's the minimum you know me i i ain't never i gotta watch show i got a show just about watches is is what what did you want first when you got in the industry the chain of the watch i ain't gonna lie the way y'all [ __ ] [ __ ] back in the days man with them rollies i always wanted a rolly man the way i talked about it in the yard [Applause] so it was the watch first it was a watch because you know why i'll always judge i always know if a person chooses to watch first that means they're gonna last longer because the chain is gonna why you know what it was when i was 13 i had gold teeth and gold chain gucci links it was hollow but i had i had gold shadow left that's where my goldfish was from what i'll be scrambling get some mozzarella from [Laughter] when i was real little but i always wanted a rolex because the way these guys were shining in the industry with it i was like i need one one day you know what i'm saying right it's it's different like what what did what the um mcmill said what's that really touch my wrist uh i'm gonna be honest with you uh like correctly correct me [Laughter] correct me if i'm wrong i don't know if it was for my birthday or christmas i think it was my birthday give a round of applause for my wife she bought me this every gift man it was a birthday gift from my wife just this rolex right here oh jesus jesus and then i seen y'all whether y'all got me we got married we got married in long island at a a very unique place man it was a castle it was a castle it was a it was a real castle but like i said earlier when she was incarcerated we got married over the phone all right so we had to have that big ceremony when she came home we did it at the castle you know what's funny you know didn't the very martin's people call us the the book very well yeah yeah yeah so this is funny so i'm like really that's why i thought about y'all rap battle yeah like oh he gonna be on so i'm next because to me it was almost like a battle it was like the map [Music] no i i really uh she would kill me if she like i like you being homeless no she's nice man she knows y'all against each other yeah that [ __ ] who is fire ultimate opponent or your ultimate opponent yeah uh i would do with anybody well with the smoke not a [ __ ] that you want to smoke for oh you want smoke i don't got nobody particular i wouldn't smoke with the only person that went bad it was oh cool g i would battle anybody except for l cool that [ __ ] turns into jack the ripper ain't your career let me tell you so i went to an ll show the by the way i this is real talk i got homeboy it's top 40. all the depth jam [ __ ] is on a top 40 they're like on a 40-day tour i'm only on 14 days they like [ __ ] you just really making time for you everyone else anywhere else is real top 40 like you just crossing over [ __ ] right like you ain't gonna be on all these days the first day of the tour now i had to watch ll said he was closing out the whole [ __ ] no i don't let this part of the show he just hand out roses see what i'm saying this thing is different who else could do that maybe kate maybe kane could do that well it's different though he's different no he is because of his commercial success so listen finish this and i'll let y'all take it back over when elvis giving these [ __ ] roses they're gone and i'm looking and he's just he's just walking around this is where his shirt come off though is he doing a song his can gonna stay on i think he's gonna busy by the way huh i think he invented that ll they're taking the shirt oh yeah yeah so i'm looking and by the way l's my man i got his phone number but by the way he has three rooms on tour he has his room where he just talked to himself he just ended up all right i think oh you think i'm posting well he talks himself listen he's just in there like it's about to go down and i was like this [ __ ] dory's get revealing way too much but anyway so i this is my first time i'm going to order these [ __ ] by the way all of them got helicopters private planes i'm still on united come on i'm on continental airlines with the same top 40 records of them definitely i was like you just got to fit in man all right so this is the first people it's the first time the first night you gotta fit it you just gotta like just just go normally like you get the same money as they get you're just like in the same treatment for the body i'm going with it so this is the first thing i actually stayed to watch l perform and my [ __ ] this [ __ ] has parts of his show because i've seen krs won you ever seen canvas one give him a speech at his show no yo yo krs will rock the party uh i was straight and then just stop do a lecture do you guys love yourself yeah and everything i don't know if i really love me now you tuned into whatever characters want to say you're a swindle guy so how you doing i got that tennis ball yeah l has the same exact [ __ ] but he's like speak he like yo yo man you don't say before you go i need love he just giving out these roses and you're not really realizing that he's about to go i need love and then the [ __ ] is just falling out and by the way very professional his wife and kids is in the next room i told you it's three rooms one for himself him and his security black love that's what i respect [Applause] him insecurities is gassing him he just walking around in one one room then his wife is kids he's in the other room and then like his production and all them in another room and i tell you man that's when i realized i was like damn bro this is why i came into this game like and i have never had a chance to put my show together like how else you see what i'm saying about l.l you you go into a battle when i was a kid i used to battle you know what i'm saying you're going to back you're like i'm a battle this [ __ ] l morphs into another character called jack the ripper you don't even know who you battling how can you battle this [ __ ] i would never talk about the cannabis situation you think i was being a bully or cannabis trial let's be clear i don't think he was being a bully shout out to cannabis very dope nervousness by the way by the way i don't know i mentioned this in a rhyme recently he said that we wouldn't send him a car service search that's all he said that's what he said but he said something about we didn't send him and he said we need a similar cost everything sorry shout out to canada we live in the future it's like carpooling car services we got you we love you shout out to cannabis very dope nervousness okay i gotta say that in your opinion i mean one of the illnesses i don't think i was being a bully i think when he said uh correct me if i'm wrong you're messing with the charm man ll that mic on your arm can i borrow that yeah i think it was off in love and war after that you know what i'm saying but but like i said shout out to cannabis but i think ll had a legitimate reason to go left after that i don't want to wake up old demons both of them are you i respect both of them no that's over so but l you know i mean do you consider yourself a battle rapper nah i used to do that when i was a kid i'm not even lying to you all right oh my lying we used to bang on the hallway war together you know so right now uncle murder um right now it's like for me and i love the battle coaching i love battle rap you know what i'm saying but for me it's like it's almost like going backwards because i was doing it when i was younger and then i came i returned into it i transitioned into a recording artist i can't say if somebody come with the right bag i won't do it you know what i mean and you would do verses versus i do that yeah against uncle murder i do it against anybody i do it against anybody i do it against whoever you didn't say you have one opponent one opponent no i don't know no i don't discriminate i'm from brooklyn okay let's let's think guys who's this perfect opponent i don't know versus if they think i'm worthy i'll come do it shout out to my brother bleak man fleet is we talk from time to time holy [ __ ] oh that'd be interesting that'd be interesting that's your buddy shout out to joe but i don't think he rap no more yeah me neither give me time i've been trying to help him come outside for a while oh what i'm [ __ ] with you that's my man that's what both of them nice though they are back actually both [ __ ] really good rap son let's just um i don't know i don't i don't know they're both nice but it would have to be new lyrics now right because joe can't keep doing pumping up like like what i'm saying like what happened though somebody called somebody out somebody said let's go and don't eat nothing else no i called joe while i said i wanted to call her joe joe said no you got too many hits he turned me down immediately which i respected but what people don't know is we were at bar one hanging out and i gave him to say i was like [ __ ] let's go me and you because he he doubted me i had called camera and this is before dip said [ __ ] okay and joe was like yo leave cam alone damn [ __ ] i thought it was a podcast bro somebody else was supposed to go out with you though but then i hooked them up with kanye we ain't seen beans what y'all had to do i was supposed to mention i live in jersey now let me obviously say i got the mansion in jersey yeah i got the crib in jersey now and i went to the mall one day and i pulled in and i turned i seen my [ __ ] beanie seagull man where the mother he was in the morning to come outside he came outside a lot of people thought i was like chastising them but it was just the old tactics i used because i i didn't know the kanye [ __ ] was gonna happen but i just was like yo like a lot of us are older individuals that been in the game for 10 12 15 years sometimes we have i don't want to say low self-esteem because that's a bad term but we we forget how important we are to the community and what it is is sometimes you got to be in front of the community sometimes if you don't come outside people ain't going to say yo pat you know you you're dope you know what i'm saying right now a lot of us yeah a lot of us that's right a lot of us stay indoors and just expect just expect the love to come to us wow you know what i'm saying so a lot of the times that's what i was that's when i realized miami [ __ ] relax but that's what i realized about miami was me being in new york was one thing for me being in miami it allowed people to give me my flowers in miami because people were sitting back saying you know what i'm a new york [ __ ] i could never stop being black john singleton was live down the block for me for the last few years life that's the case and john singer just said you will never be on my show i said why your new york accent is horrible like you could in a good way there's nothing about that let's talk about this why is it that other regions hate new york so much oh don't start this please no no we gotta talk about this we gotta talk no because he thinks that he's working that's why i understand those things [Laughter] y'all mad at us because we was doing this [ __ ] before y'all like nah it's like [ __ ] is like feel like new york started hip-hop um when we when new york was shining they ain't let us shine so now that my region is shining [ __ ] new york let's clown these [ __ ] [ __ ] they timberlands hold on [Applause] why you all be hating on us we didn't mean pardon us for starting hip-hop [Music] very funny but y'all got to stop hating on the city man come here yeah they got to stop doing it wait first of all and you know this is true there's a misunderstanding there's no hating on new york what you call that though i don't know there might be somebody that's what it's like for that [ __ ] what are we labeling it i don't know specifically what you're talking about because for me i sit back and i see new york [ __ ] reposting that [ __ ] and i'm like okay but at the end of the day it's hey i'm gonna be posting them timothy jokes that can't be with that all the new yorkers do you know the jokes that when people would go up to new york or go talk to people with the jokes on the south too from the west we're not gonna create no navigators let's address the problem nobody's gonna say no sound jokes let's be honest no no there was no that's it's coming from he's talking what we've talked about on the show is okay in the past i'm talking about 90s i can't talk for right now what's happening but in the 90s okay the industry it's not it wasn't the artist in new york it wasn't no if you talk to any artist from the south that that comes from that arrow they all have love and respect for the culture and where does the culture come from right and me finish this foreign this is a misconception it's not a hate for no it's a hate for the industry that was in your the industry the same the same thing that you didn't like the same thing everybody hates because the industry was based in new york so what happened y'all was oppressed yeah i feel oppressed no it was there wasn't i feel the press they was filtering what was getting signed just like how you felt black ball they were blackballing the regions the rest of the country so y'all felt blackboard that's why the west coast when everything popped off that's what they were they were they were attacking but but can i ask you guys a question y'all been running the games you guys for 15 years you know enough reparations i mean yourself i've only been running the game in the podcast i don't know man no but i feel you because listen i sat down with t.i on and off air and t.i feel the same weight watch watch with the mic grab it pull it up okay no pull it up okay i don't know i don't do this [ __ ] fc search let's just answer it answer it [ __ ] it yo i'm a hip-hop [ __ ] don't no don't no one call me but hip-hop [ __ ] right no no again oh okay okay kicking them in the grill [Applause] what's going on he said what's up back to the grill again let me ask you something was there ever a time in the industry you didn't have a job put it close to the mic since i'm 18 years old god damn it my brother let's make some noise for sure i was saying that playing around but search has always had a job in hip-hop which is crazy because i feel like that's how we're supposed to walk away like when you and when it's really time to retire you're supposed to work at dev jam you're supposed to work at that echo like he did he went to echoes saying this because this is what i've been advocating me and my team have been advocating my line snaps we've been advocating for me to have a position that soon cool yep not just as a person who uh i can't think of the word right now i'm a little hit what'd you call it brand ambassador d goal nothing is that not just as that but as someone who tells the truth to artists you have equity in the establishment because i can give an honest opinion on why artists should gravitate towards y'all right right and you were saying this just now it was yours i mean i'm not even bullshitting yet yeah we're going right by experience right and that's what i did i was watching you on other interviews and i've seen you you know really believe like really standing by that yeah i mean it cuz like i said i lost my deal and i went to tunecore and eventually it worked out for me and i can't say right away but eventually i stuck with it the bag is coming in well before we wrap it up yes what was that mistake because let's let's just think about artists who are coming in this game they get a hit record they get this this this buzz they get the same deal the 1.5 the 1.2 to 1.7 or whatever then they lose it what was your my state when you when you lost it and did you blame yourself or did you blame bustler did you blame k slay right that's a two-part question i'm sorry the maturity in me as you get older you mature and one thing about maturity you learn you have to look at the man in the mirror i blame myself right because i should have knew better i made mistakes i mixed the industry with the street i thought that when people didn't cooperate with me and people hated on me i should address them with violence right and that was a big mistake by me doing that so due to the fact that i did that i have to take full responsibility regardless of what jeff winston regardless of the haters regardless of black bowling i should have knew better as a young man you know i mean you know you understand what i'm saying and you got to understand me i'm gonna be honest with y'all the closest person to me man in the world our mothers are identical twin sisters my cousin's strong he got murdered and you know music was our dream yeah i knew how to rap but it was our dream so when we was hustling and doing negativity in the street music was always our way out so when i got that 1.5 million dollar deal we was touring and i lost my deal and everything fell apart we went back to the street and no way when we went back to the street yeah i went back to the street we went back to the street my cousin lost his life so i feel like if my career would have took off maybe that would have never happened so you got to be very careful with every mindful of the decisions you make and the mistakes you make you know what i'm saying i don't beat myself up to the point where i blame myself but i can't help but say damn what if my career would have took off will my little cousin still be here you know what i'm saying so you know be careful be mindful and um don't take things for granted all right let's take a shot some little cards man because that was real i definitely oh chicken nah there's no lie yeah definitely but we're gonna take a shot for cuz but we're gonna this is a happy note happy note let's do it yeah we're really proud for you thank you and this is this is probably my last question after this we're really proud for you thank you salute before you say that let me just say thought i was gonna stop pat post featuring two chains remy ma lil wayne and boston rob is available on all digital platforms guys let's go away [Music] [Applause] i can't say that on drink chance it's the biggest podcast in the world thank you thank you man let me ask you this because there's a rumor and you define this rumor but when people say lyrical artists are not don't have money do you agree with that obviously you you can't agree with that because you outside but is that the norm if if a person is lyrical and it's just is does his life if he doesn't have the option of going on love and hip-hop or he doesn't have the option of you know being married to like most lyrical emcees what do you think for the lyrical emcees how are we gonna let me say this you have some lyrical artists who are versatile and they're able to transition and do other things and make hit records like normie did i'm saying back in the day but i want y'all to know i want to i want you i'm going to say this and a lot of people are going to disagree with me and i want you to know that this is coming from a person who is not broke a person who lives in a mansion you know what i'm saying that's nice where's nice jewelry drives nice cars my daughter is set for life i'm going to say this say it money isn't everything absolutely not everything you understand what i'm saying and money doesn't make you a leverages money doesn't make you a man money doesn't make you who you are character dignity loyalty and respect makes you who you are don't measure a man's character ability or talent by money [Applause] you got a flight yeah i do man all right one more time let's get out of here one more shot because that was the perfect way to end it man i'm just being again cause we like fake cousins too remember that let's just look at that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah really ladies yeah i wish i knew that back in the day [Laughter] [Music] [Laughter] you a legend thank you man you're a dude that stood the test of time you could have cracked you could have folded it you could have left your wife you could have did a lot of dumb [ __ ] real talk and you stood there you stood i watch you at times and i want to be a better version for me thank you brother because i sit back and i say damn you know i want my wife to know i love heart just as much as that that what you what you show and you just distribute and um that's why i did loving hip-hop too because it was just like you know what it was it was two reasons it was like i i could be that better version of me and i could be that better version of me and on tv and then it's also when dmx passed away like just that dude i spent the last two weeks of his life he every single day excellent with me six weeks six weeks every second they ask for me and i'm just [ __ ] with them damn i'll get a little emotional i'm [ __ ] up but um man when he passed i wanted to do the same thing i did when my father passed so my father passed it was 1998 this is the biggest year of my life i had the number one record the number one album number one and then i lost my father it looked good on you man was a boxer yeah yeah so i say that to say so i did this but at the end of the day had it not been the images of you and rem wow like how y'all held it down like yo you could do this but navigate through this and b still be you it i wouldn't uh i wouldn't have been able to survive like like the extra would hit me real hard i still cry like you know like just like my my brother twin like you know the other day you know i'm just me jb being the creators crying because of my boy twins because i'd be trying to be tough but in all reality i'm not it hurt like i'm actually a human so i say that to say i want to thank you i want to thank you as an artist i want to thank you as a father i want to thank you as a husband thank you i want to thank you because it's versions of you that i say you know what let me straighten up the proof can't be out here being better than me and every person he's battling you can't say yeah i won't apologize to you brother cause you messaged me and you invited me to your anniversary and i tried everything in my power yeah to make it and i couldn't make it i know it was a wonderful anniversary without me being there i only couldn't imagine but i want to thank you for being an advocate for black love and living it out through your family structure yes and i want to thank you just for that alone brother so let's get around let's go let's take a picture and wrap it up i want to say one thing i'm gonna say this since we talking about relationships and marriage i gotta say i say it all the time one more shot a woman is the most before i say i'm gonna take a shot one more shot let's do it i gotta say it i'm sorry i i do the same [ __ ] that's crazy me and my wife just let me wrap it up like because it's therapeutic and i hope i still can get an invite even though i didn't make the last no you're getting the invite we're gonna be doing it every [ __ ] year i got to come man follow statement before i'm gonna say this last thing in case you're not married i want to let you know a woman is the most precious jew more pressures in the ruby emerald diamond or sapphire each man has to take one woman and rise her above the rest so she can show the world how precious she truly is meaning if you don't put your woman on a pedestal and show her that lawyer seeing that love you cannot respect that in return my brothers peace jesus [Applause] i'm about to say can you do a 16 you can't do that you're good you're drunk i just want them to get uh thought i was going to stop featuring two changed here we go there we go you

Channel: REVOLT

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Keywords: REVOLT, TV, music, rap, r&b, hip hop, drink champs, papoose, interview, podcast, noreaga, dj efn, nore, remy ma

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Length: 127min 2sec (7622 seconds)

Published: Sat Feb 12 2022