Overtime: Sen. Bernie Sanders, Russell Brand, John Heilemann | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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okay we're on CNN now I don't know how that happened but we're back with our panel from Vermont Bernie Sanders the senator host of showtimes for circus John heilman and actor ingredient Russell Brand are back with us okay so here are the questions people wrote in I guess this is for you because it mentions the Brit Awards what does the panel think of the discussion around the Oscars getting rid of gender-specific categories like best actor and best actress and how did it work out at the Brit Awards an award I feel confident in saying that they are vacuous and pointless a distraction at a time where we need to be coming together around real principles and values unless someone wants to give me an award in which case I'd like to make it as specific as possible so I could bloody well get it am I wrong that at the the Brit Awards which is for music I hosted that before but I'll tell you bill that I was able to let go of the experience and have never thought about it since [Laughter] used to be best male best female and they just cut out the categories and it was one like it was only the only people who won it was it was four men and Harry Styles yeah yeah I think no all that like no women won they should just give Awards to Harry Styles and that can be an industry okay the world incinerates well Harry Styles dances beautifully what is what is the likelihood that Congress will abolish daylight savings time this is something I've read this also today that uh so like they're calling it the permanent daylight savings I don't really understand even understand what that could mean do you care about this are you [Applause] I I have to I have been criticized for having a very narrow Focus criticism a daylight savings time is not one of the issues that I've been studying okay you know what I bet you it's the kind of stuff that actually affects a lot of adults and and it's and it's anachronistic it's stupid I don't get it I don't know I guess we did it a hundred years ago because Farmers needed okay well how many people in America are farmers it's like one percent of the population I mean we need the farmers I love food foreign I'm not crazy about the way they do their farming torturing animals and by the way to just to connect it once more to covid we are never going to be done with diseases like covet while we are still torturing animals it all comes from animals it comes now we have to worry about bird flu bird flu it's Birds and pigs we're back in the wet Market again where it's like that's that's yeah it's like there's there's bad that goes on in those places that's right and that's why that also could be where it came from but it always jumps from animals to people and it wouldn't if we didn't pan up the animals and torture them before we eat them it seems like and let me be let me be not in funny you know your point about sickness and the possibility of future pandemics absolutely speaks to the need for international cooperation because the pandemic is not going to be an American issue it's not going to be a Chinese issue we're gonna have to bring the world together to deal with climate to deal with pandemics okay uh should law enforcement be policing Tech talk in order to crack down on illegal trends like the viral challenge to steal kids and Hyundai oh yeah do you know about this they there's Tick Tock videos that show how you could with just a I think a screwdriver and a iPhone charger you can hot wire a Kia and Hyundai so like they're being stolen left and right um what do you think about tech talk that's another thing that's before Congress somebody has a bill to ban Tick Tock certainly for people under 16. I think that's Josh Hawley well I think the concern is Tick Tock is a Chinese owned company and you're seeing States and the US government uh not wanting to use it for fear that some secretive information could fall into Chinese hands well but also it's rotting the minds of our young well it's a whole other story but that's that's Beyonce's talk isn't it it is but Tick Tock is not helping I would say the rod the rotting of the minds of the America of America's youth is a is a problem that existed long before Tick Tock and it made it like one of the things great things about being young made it much worse kids at least used to read a book I don't think kids ever see a book they do not read they scroll a scrolling does not make you smart uh you know not to become overly serious I think it is now perceived that pen that the pandemic has made the Mental Health crisis that we previously had even worse and there is a lot of discussion about the impact of social media and the isolation is absolutely human contact that it develops absolutely on our health all right Russell what are your thoughts on the UFOs that were intercepted and shot down by the U.S military last month I don't know if they're referring to the Chinese balloons they were not UFOs because we know what they were they were Chinese balloons uh but there were other things there were some things that they shot that we didn't get and we don't know what they are and they're the things that we haven't found out what they are after we did shoot them down I wonder whether or not the 14 trillion dollars that that have been granted to the Pentagon 55 of which has ended up in the hands of the military industrial complex which surely American people are becoming weary of needs occasionally to be boosted with fanciful ideas of extraterrestrial Invasion maybe there needs to be a continual reminder that the skies themselves could become a threat unless Raytheon Lockheed Martin BAE Systems continue to profit elsewise a balloon a perfect metaphor for it is naught but hot air nothing inside it shot down by a four hundred thousand dollar missile might be coming for your family [Applause] I mean we we we're just saying here we all should be skeptical and have open minds on everything it is possible that there are there's life in on other planets that are visiting us or scouting us I mean there are even even the U.S well Carl Insurance Cloud possible but if you think that something from Another Universe came all the way here and was just kind of dragging around and was shot down very easily I think if it's a UFO they would have done a little bit better in avoiding and waiting first of all it's we're not saying it's from Another Universe we're saying it's from the same universe universe is very big very big Bill I think bunny raises a good point it's not like E.T would come all the way here and then trip up outside Elliot's house [Applause] no that's the boy the Chinese balloon is different I'm not saying the Chinese balloon was from Another Universe or this one I mean it doesn't have to be from China if it's a Chinese balloon and I mean that of all due respect unless that's the least it can do well I'm moving on the obvious if you brought Bernie back out here he won't be happy if you're going to talk about extraterrestrials and balloons okay if you're looking for inequality if you're looking for proof that there's life in outer space intelligent life and Aerospace you need to look no further than Russell there's not really another accounting for how I I'm glad that became a compliment sir because I was rearing up no don't you worry oh holy copper that's my friend with all the emphasis on Dei are we confusing equality of opportunity with trying to guarantee equity and outcomes okay that's interesting because I think this word Equity is coming to the language in the last few years and before that we didn't hear it a lot and I think a lot of people hear equity and they hear equality I think it's the same word and it's not the same word in the same concept so how would you differentiate between equity and equality well the quality we talk about uh I don't know what the answer to that is coming to think of it you know uh equality is equality of opportunity all right we live in a society we want all people right to have whatever color your skin is equity I think is more guarantee of outcome is it not I mean I think so I think okay so which do you come which side do you come down on equality equality yeah okay boys any comment on that one I just don't know if that's the that's the definitional difference but certainly this is the question of the quality of outcome over over our quality of opportunity is one that you know has been it's the question that underlies affirmative action and everything else that we've had in our projects for a very long time and there's obviously people are very strong even people who actually want a quality of outcome say they only want a quality of opportunity and vice versa but that's you know that's the it's a that that issue that core of that what do you actually want um and I think Bernie is where everyone says they want to be but there are in fact programs that have been designed that designed to actually engineer equal outcomes not just equal opportunity and that's where a lot of the controversies risen okay one more have Democrats done enough to support strong labor unions Bernie what's the future of unions in this country I think they just subpoenaed the Starbucks they didn't I did uh you know so that's not fair they're not going to have that is an issue I do know something about and what I pay attention to and the bottom line is that you're not going to have a middle class in this country unless workers are able to stand up organize form unionism and negotiate for decent contracts and what we're seeing right now is more and more workers wanting to form unions but you're seeing companies like Starbucks and Amazon and other apple and other large corporations really engaging in illegal union busting so we have asked uh the leader of Starbucks they had a CEO Howard Schultz to explain to us why he thinks it's acceptable that over 50 occasions the nlrd has said they have broken federal labor law in Breaking unions so we hope to have him come before our committee there will be a vote on Wednesday at a vote on subpoena subpoenaing it does seem like there is a a strange sort of hypocrisy there because these are usually liberal companies I think Whole Foods also and it's like they care a lot about the indigenous people of the Bolivian Andes but not about some work or incense you got it all right uh very liberal about everything except where the workers can form a union and earn decent wages they're very Pueblo except whether or not we ask them to pay their fair share of taxes they're not so liberal then that's right thank you everybody foreign
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Published: Sat Mar 04 2023
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