OFFENSIVE SUNKEN !! | CNSL 7

hey guys welcome back to the cnsl season 7 right now we're in the losers match of the round of 16 Group D are two Korean players in this group going to face off in a zerg vers Zerg best of three match it's going to be miso going up against hian uh hard to say who's going to be favored here so let's just jump in and here we go in the top left of Citadel our Zerg player returning from Starcraft 2 it is Yan and in the top right none other than miso all right so Zerg vers Zerg best of three uh I guess first off I'll I'll note that the IDS are not uh ones that you might recognize hdy are the initials huol uh for uh miso here Ming is basically it means like crazy dog uh it's just an ID that he un uses for some reason uh but yeah there there you go really fantastic IDs I know I love the numbers in them as well it's like real real old school icq Vibes coming out now uh anyways it is zvz right so really kind of hard to predict we start off with miso with a nine pool and we'll see where he goes from there does drone afterwards we'll see if he does extractor trick as well yeah looks like he might he might I mean he might just start mining gas here as well yeah it does look that way looks like an Overlord will be coming up next uh over here on the side of hian now he's going to go ahead and go hatch first so this is definitely pretty heavy favored for miso uh there have been instances where Hatchery first can hold I don't know if that's going to be the case especially with this Overlord scouting in the correct direction yeah going to start mining that gas and uh definitely a very aggressive opening here from me so no big surprise either I've always looked at Yan as more of like a mid game type of Zerg and uh you know yeah definitely just like aggressive from minute one generally from miso so miso right now making those six zerglings he's going to be pretty happy when he finds this Hatchery first uh very likely he'll be able to kill that hatch as well generally you make a bunch of Lings and bring some drones down to try to fight as well but we don't see it successful that often Zergling speed first as well so that really goes towards it working for him also and uh he sees the creep so now he's going to know that he can just send the zerglings over to the left what okay there we go he's trying to dodge overlords I think is the thing he knows the general Scout Paths of these overlords but yeah I think uh he may have just caught a glimpse of that so this is going to be an issue uh layer on the way after speed so everything looking very good for miso right now Here Come Those six Lings and do you let it finish looks like he will needs that larva to have a chance I think bringing a lot of drones down man nine drones so he's going to try to save the Hatchery I don't think that's going to work out well for him uh with speed and now two more Lings coming over as well okay gets a decent drill there and you notice he moved it over so it's harder to drill those Lings now more Lings are coming up so this is the important part right already they equal in those drone counts two Lings go towards the main kind of surprising I wasn't expecting that I thought you'd bring those over and just try to take good concaves here uh but yeah going after the drones the more drones will uh come down to this natural can hian actually hold here his Hatchery getting super super low unfortunately he is sacrificing zerglings to do that so the Zergling Advantage does go towards hun he's one drone down right now but he's getting Zergling speed and yeah with that Zergling Advantage it looks like he's up about two Lings right now but you can see that a creep Colony coming up so definitely right now uh miso is looking towards getting a sunken up to help bolur his defense he knows that that's going to be a little bit of an issue that also gives hun back the Drone lead although it doesn't matter that much well obviously it matters but like it's a funny situation oh my God is he going to make a sunken that is kind of crazy now dude miso comes up kills a drone really really strong move I think he's actually going to go offensive sunken cuz this is going to be out of range so if he just makes one over here it's going to put unbelievable pressure on and since he has more Lings you can't really come out to fight it I feel like the counter to that is to make another sunken let's see oh man I love this move I love this move okay so he comes up and actually starts to engage the link count getting pretty reasonably high and he does actually go for the his own second sunken uh but yeah that is going to be held a little bit anent climactic at the end let's go into game number two all right so uh getting into game number two we're going to be on a four player map in radon we have in the bottom left hian and in the top left we have miso so miso winning that first game up 1 to zero obviously the loser here going to be eliminated and no chance to advance to that round of eight which is I think probably a place they both feel like they deserve to be in but this group man it's a tough one in times they are a changing uh really I tell you I'm I'm excited as well for the next zg vers zg series someone had asked in a previous uh video like what is what kind of format like are these all played at the same time can people watch the matches generally all the players in the group are watching the matches they are not playing these are all played in order like you're watching them so yeah uh these zvzs could be something to give a few Tendencies uh to Shia to look at for whoever's going to come up to play him in that deciders match yeah anyways uh in this second game we have uh the nine pool once again this time both sides hean does not want to get caught off guard with that Hatchery first play again can't really blame him for it by the way both of their overlords scouting horizontally so they're not going to find each other they should probably find each other at about the same time and they're doing mirr builds so this is a really really even game very likely to come down to some tactics as opposed to someone having an advantage and trying to lean upon it or their opponent trying to utilize some some tactics to uh you know fight fight their way back you know we saw that from from Kon in that previous game I love that he he brought the Drone it was like a good idea right you got to remember that when you're going for a hatch first against npol and your close spawns especially it's like almost always a loss it's not always a loss right but it's almost always a loss so in a situation like that like you really got to do something crazy you know your opponent has higher Tech your opponent already has the Zergling speed uh they kill your Hatchery and it's like well what I mean what do you have like in that case he did have a slight Zergling Advantage but that was it and it just it was not enough especially when you count in uh the travel distance and everything you know you're trying to Rally your zerglings across but he's producing off one hatch you know I like the idea of the sunk though cuz attacking straight in was never going to work so cool stuff wish that we could see more more things like that in zbz but here we go they're going to meet right exactly like literally exact this is the center it's exactly halfway between the mains uh so they hit each other and actually uh Mis has a slightly better engage so far uh he killed one Ling this is not the end of the world uh but it actually you know it is it is somewhat impactful at least you know you're down one unit pulling the Lings back now uh the interesting thing is that hean did break off two full health Lings to the side he's going to have Zergling speed this is a very sulky esque move the two Lings off to the side you kind of just try to hold your ramp and then you Counterattack with the two Lings and like the thing is yeah two Lings keep fight two Lings but they're slippery man and he's going to get in there and go out drones dude this is going to be a huge Advantage toan huge Advantage toan already gets a drone that's big that's very very big two drones and look the two Lings are coming back but even though they come back it's going to take a minute to actually kill these two more Lings pop three drones okay uh so hun is like almost certainly going to win this game but there's like a little bit of play left I think right maybe something like you get some Scourge that that connect right maybe you get your first few Scourge du well or something like that but you know losing like three drones that is super super painful let's count the Lings we got 13 Lings here and that is going to be going up against uh 14 Lings yes so one more Ling for miso one less drone for me so did I count that right well the one Ling uh yeah I guess oh we had two in the mineral line as well okay so he's actually got 14 Lings now I'm sorry 15 Lings there we go that makes more sense I'm like those numbers don't add up artosis uh anyways he has the nice cing kga line up here and it looks like uh miso going to well not really set one up his own but is going to set set up his Lings kind of in a defensive stance honestly like his opponent's Lings can't come down the ramp you're not really doing anything else with this the one Ling running in and out just checking timings on everything you will notice that the overlords are all kind of getting pulled into directions where they're not going to die right so here comes Hun's back home here comes miso's back home they don't want these to die to those early muus that they're both surely making we have that earlier uh Overlord coming out for hian as well so you can see that kind of reflected and uh you know the the extra income he's been able to to gain uh we did have a couple more drones made by miso to try to catch up here as well mut is coming out on both sides trying to go after this Ling okay does get the Ling catches that Ling so one drone Advantage right now for miso but it was later it does matter when the drones come out it doesn't matter if you have a 100 drone Advantage right if uh you only had it for 1 minute and they had a 100 drone advant or a 50 drone Advantage for 9 minutes before that or something okay I know that's not a great example but uh truly it does matter when they come out that's why early game losses are so painful they just kind of Stack upon each other based on what you can what you can afford natural expansion being taken looks like uh we also want to see that from miso just lots of mutas lots of Lings being made on both sides now the scourge starting to come out you know obviously they're both going to be a little bit low on money let's do a muta count here so it's four mutas total and then lots of scourge production one more mut on the way so one more muta on the way here as well but he's already got five mutas so you see that extra muisk popping out so he is going to be it's going to be like six verse five mutas and then also both sides will have a bunch of scourge not sure who's going to pull the trigger and go neither of them really have any Vision on the other side of the map I can see like just watching a zvz that looks like this I can see this feels like it would be like kind of a frustrating one where it's like okay we're both going to optimize some production here uh you know you probably eventually want to attack uh if your opponent doesn't come across the map like you want to make sure that your opponent do didn't do something crazy greedy like get a carace flyer carace upgrade type of thing that's kind of in my mind is like a reason why you may want to attack cuz if you're both literally just sitting here making muta Scourge it's probably best to never attack right like just to sit there but the fact that they could be doing something else like get that carace upgrade you should probably eventually go across see if you can catch them and punish them from doing that now here comes the attack uh from hun and he does have that muis Advantage don't forget so that is huge Scourge coming up he's doing moving shots really good micro in fact his Scourge connect as well I believe hun is ahead here so five mutas four against four and the Lings are actually getting in oh that's funny it's going to be the Lings making a big difference and miso's going to GG and that means a game number two so game number three is going to be on retro in the top right we have Yan and in the bottom left we have miso all right uh yeah yeah it's you know it's cvz and we had like just little little differences okay so game one we had miso getting a gigantic Advantage with nine pull against hatch first okay he won game two what was the big difference they did the exact same build he unpicked off two of his own links ran them around and then ran in when speed was done and killed three drones and that gave him an edge that never fell away and he had to wait a little bit to make that edge work right like sometimes you get that edge and you might think well we can attack now well no you traded some Army for some economy right like and obviously if you had like two more links in your opponent maybe you trade a little economy for that too so you do have an edge but sometimes you got to wait for that to show itself and it did show itself in the form of uh extra mutil lisks for hun you know when you're killing three drones that's a high percentage it's like 25 30% of your opponent's economy so anyways uh you know zbz not for the faint of heart these little tiny edges that build up I feel like if I was a zvz z player zvz would frustrate me it's uh yeah I don't know you really it feels like you got to be super super super super dialed in with everything and even then you can just get caught now nine Pool Plus gas against miso's Hatchery first so like I was saying in game one it's generally a win for the uh nine pool player the thing we should mention is that it's cross spawn right so the travel distance for the Lings is considerably more right every single unit that you send is going to take considerably longer to Rally across right so it's just it's harder to break them and it's going to be layer first here for done so this is probably because there's not speed first remember that miso did speed first and was close spawn and the map was cadel which is actually the shortest close spawn Rush distance in this map Pool actually Troy might be my bad uh but Citadel might be number two then uh that's that's my guess uh but I know Citadel is is closer than retro and he's going in the wrong direction as well so like there's uh miso's position with this build is so much better better than Hans was when he did it and if you end up holding the npol with this you're generally going to be very very happy about that now one thing to mention he does have a layer on the way a lot of times this build will turn into Mass zings CU you have double Hatchery right so you just have more larvae you can overwhelm your opponent with those speedlings which will slow his mutas down and kind of like allow you to equalize that a little bit and then you have your second gas even though they mind more gas than you now now as hun gets down here he's not going to be too happy that he went nine pool and then finds him late and it's like a hatch first and totally we have uh miso being completely fine but he has more Lings on the way he does have that Zergling speed about to finish miso nothing but Lings being produced right now we do have a drone for hyan so hian is trying to kind of catch up his economy a bit you see the drones being pulled down miso's up well he was up three drones until just a second ago right so he knows that he needs to pull these down to help him fight and if some of them can live then good on him and actually a good engage so far here from miso I don't know it doesn't it doesn't seem like Hon's going to get very much damage here a lot more Lings being made by miso so miso's absolutely going to go on the offensive himself he as he's pop he's going to attack in and force these Lings back and as uh hun sees those when he sees how many Lings are being made he's going to know that he needs to go up his ramp sit in an arc and wait for his Spire so the muis can not only help to kill off some Lings but they can do things like kill overlords that are so far out on the map and also Force spores that's that's like super super common in fact these types of games I think can be pretty fun because as long as you're forcing spores on one side the game can get absolutely wild in this matchup now there's Evolution Chamber from miso and he actually keeps his Lings back interesting notice that there's a little group of three h trying to that same type of tactic he's going to run one down at least this Overlord just being sacrificed standing here it seems muta's going to be popping now there's a few different ways you can look at trying to bust this so first off spores are going to be made spores are going to be made right now this area is going to be well defended he's kept his Lings at home and you know he has the uh the spores coming up right so that's that's pretty well defended but you can do things like Mass Lings here as Yan oh God he flies in over the Spore uh you can Mass Lings as hun and bring them down and keep the mutas here so that no units can come from here to there right or the mutas will kill them and then try to hit with massling at the natural having more Lings than them to break through things like that sometimes are done I don't know if he's going to try a tactic like that we're going to wait and see but right now he's down seven drones so he has to do something and he has to do it soon second gas here for miso he has his Spire coming up honestly I think that he should throw down another Spore this is getting a little bit scary uh but you can get to muisk numbers as the one hatch mut player to kill spores now like I said I feel like you should have had a Spore here and you can see these have to run the is blocking these bottom patches he's up so many he's up 11 drones there's like no reason not to make additional spores in my opinion it just it makes it makes a lot of sense like he's going to win the long-term game if he just keeps this ridiculous drone count going he has so many drones we might actually just see a third hatch as well that's like a real possibility at this point so carace gets started by hon first that actually makes a lot of sense when you're getting into a game like this you got to think about it like okay caras is going to be important care paace of course reducing muisk damage to each other by three because of the glaes it's a huge huge upgrade oh I'm really surprised he flew out really surprised look at that hun gets a free muta and then two are so low they may as well be free totally crazy there uh that that was that was definitely a under there from miso I felt like miso was ahead and actually I think he's still fine but that was that was like there's no reason to give that up now hon is droning uh well he did drone somewhat heavily like he's he definitely added quite a few drones getting some overlords now as he does get supply blocked yeah he's going drone more I was going to say he he definitely needs to do that uh in this type of game I could see hun taking a third base and I could definitely see miso making a third Hatcher but but he absolutely can't make it outside of his defensive formation so we'll see if either of those things occur yeah just basically mutas being made as well as a few drones being squeezed out here and there and there's that third hatch that that's been uh we've been talking about a little bit when you have that type of drone count like you just you can't really even spend on on two hatches not with all these cheap Zerg units still don't know from Hun's side if he's going to be doing something similar or you know maybe taking that third base as mentioned both sides at this point going to wait for their carace before going anywhere both could be thinking that they might gain an edge from that but it looks like they'll finish it almost exactly the same time he UNS maybe just a handful of seconds before the odds of having engagement during those seconds very very low muus count up at 10 this muus count it is catching up right he's at nine he's at nine he's making a hell of a lot of mutas right now that extra drone count really working out for him he's keeping his gas down all the way you know hun has mind a hell of a lot of gas so uh he still has quite a bit in the bank still making quite a few muis see if they start plus one uh flyer attack really quickly afterwards I feel like that actually might be the right play little Ling Scout in there from hun to check on the muus count going to see it's huge hey carace is done both sides and they both instantly start plus two carace so plus two carace reduces incoming attacks by two instead of the three of the original upgrade so it is technically better than plus one flyer attack okay so reducing two damage is better than adding one damage but that's a cost difference of 100 100 for the attack and 225 225 for the second armor defense right so that's that is an additional muisk basically that you're giving up for the additional damage that's prevented per muisk shot so it definitely does work out to being correct I would say ES especially uh for uh for miso side since he has all those spores by the way he makes his third base first again I felt like hian was the one more able to do this because he had map control for a very long time at this point no one really does uh I love the Lings out the map by the way just you can see him Fanning them out there's so many mutas now that Lings aren't going to do too much unless you're completely out of position starts this gas dude I think miso is just going to take this I think Kon has missed any opportunity to capitalize on what he had I think what he had the one thing he could have done is get that third base quickly and after he didn't do that and now the muus counts are really really similar it you know we're just going to get more gas mind and that's going to be more muisk more Scourge and I think we're just like after he mins this for like a minute think about this you mine this for one minute it's three additional mutas and insane uh difference right even one muta can change the battle so so heavily I have no idea even what these counts are it is absurd how many mutas these guys have we're up in the 20s I think all right here we go k attacks in a lot of scourge coming we don't really have the scourge from miso Yun may be hitting an excellent attack here and it seems like still over 12 still over 12 dude there are so many mutas here I don't know how you are even supposed to keep track of this but it looks like hian no no miso is coming out ahead hon going to end up losing these mutas I think yeah we're closer to those rally points and don't forget he does have that additional gasping mind so hon going to lose his mutas he doesn't have that additional base a Zergling Counterattack with what's left over and that's going to be that hun going to be eliminated and miso advancing to that final deci match should be going up against Shia in our next match guys I hope you enjoyed thanks for watching [Music]

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Length: 25min 45sec (1545 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 29 2024