No King Rules Forever(Quitting WoW)

hey guys what's up mad season here back with another video for you we got a pretty big one today i'll tell you what i'm quitting world of warcraft and no you can't have my stuff that's about it though hope you enjoyed the video check out my patreon buy rage shadow legends and also ridge wallet like the video if you liked it and i'm seeing the next one peace all right we'll do an actual video this isn't the last world of warcraft video that you'll see i do have one more planned after this simply due to the fact that i don't want this one to be my last but honestly i'm not even sure where to start here i guess from the beginning would be the most logical step in march of 2005 mom season trill drove me to the veggie game store all of my friends were quitting another game i played star wars galaxies for this new mmo that took the world by storm world of warcraft alright i'll check it out i said to myself sounds like it could be pretty decent the graphics are kind of awful i don't see how it could be so popular but let's mess around with it fast forward 16 years later here i am i've played the game pretty consistently over the years yes even all of the warlords of draenor expansion people ask me all the time what my favorite expansion is and the true answer is the warlords of draenor because it was so bad and i got so bored that i started up this very youtube channel as a way to keep myself occupied because playing with myself and my girls ensures hell wasn't enough for me or the other seven people who played it through its entirety [Music] but one thing led to another and about six years after that here i stand with a youtube channel that's grown far bigger than i could have ever hoped or imagined for i suppose that this is the case for a lot of channels i imagine it's pretty common to dick around with videos here and there expecting nothing more than your own amusement but somehow someway things sort of spiraled out of control the channel is now a responsibility hey wait a second i didn't sign up for this crap quick everyone unsubscribe it is though it's a responsibility and i've been very vocal over my time on youtube about being well vocal [ __ ] blizzard [ __ ] and that's what we're doing today we're going to be pretty vocal as always i do want to preface the entire video with my usual spiel of it's all my opinion they're like buttholes everyone has one world of warcraft is a good precursor to politics i feel even people trying on other mmos there's the pot of controversy i feel like i need a pr agent to proof watch this video unless i offend anyone with my brazen taste in gaming paid character progression and services has ruined world of warcraft consider this video a form of that survey that you guys give people when they unsubscribe because admittedly mine was less than constructive so let's strap on our big boy underwear and handle this like grown neckbeard shall we you guys are about to make me bust out the spray bottle on your asses no bad neckbeards bad no there are ultimately three reasons why i'm moving on and i'll explain them but i'll go in an order of what i think you'll find the most interesting starting with the fact that i just simply don't find it worth my time or money so i'm moving on it's something i've done before i didn't enjoy the battle for azeroth so i quit about halfway through the battle for azeroth when classic came out in fact i've expressed this several times that if classic were not out i probably would have quit world of warcraft a long time ago and the main reason for that is probably something you guessed by now if you've paid attention to my previous videos and it's mainly microtransactions there are a lot of other reasons but the primary one is the cash shop i know to any longtime subscribers i'll sound like a broken record here but current world of warcraft i don't find to be worth my time because time isn't the most effective way to progress your character money is since the release of the wow token and the inception of carry runs you can now buy anything officially from blizzard through the in-game cash shop just because you don't see high-level mythic keystone clears or arena carries or heroic or mythic raid bosses doesn't mean they're not there don't get confused they are there these carry runs are officially sanctioned by blizzard in the game you can pay real life money for an in-game service that's against the rules as it compromises its integrity however in the game you can pay real-life money for gold and then use that gold to pay for in-game services and that isn't against the rules come on down you're the next contestant on the price is [ __ ] it still completely compromises its integrity but blizzard now profits off of it so don't worry about that too much if they were to announce tomorrow that in the cash shop you can now just buy raid clears you can now just straight up buy gear mythic plus 15 clears people would flip in absolute lid but because there's this one extra step it's obfuscated enough to be deemed acceptable but the truth is ever since the token's inception these have all been purchasable with real money completely in the clear of the terms of service and many people are doing it which is why you see so many of them instead of banning cheaters blizzard now just profits off of them and because of that i feel like real money has too much of an influence got something that might interest you for example in their legendary system those base pieces are pretty expensive you could go mining or herbing do some crafting and farm up enough gold to get them sure but you can also just click a button three or four times and get it instantly being able to say that i earned this thing that's only attainable through an investment of time is so important in games with character progression and when that line is crossed where time isn't the only path to get something the experience as a whole is made less because surprisingly there's no accomplishment through swiping a credit card you're too late you'll never find it now and yeah granted there will always be people who will find a way to do it you'll go through a third party website which are really hard to find by the way because blizzard does a really good job of keeping their game clean as evidenced by their group finder still to this day being infested with advertisements but i digress there will always be people who go through these sites and get by a ban but the issue is if the people running the game cut themselves on the profit it of course causes more people to do it right no longer do people have to go through these shady ass third-party websites where possibly your card number gets stolen possibly your account gets banned or more than possibly your personal information gets stolen of course if you're able to buy currency through a secured instant guaranteed and officially advertised and supported service people are going to be doing it now more than ever before plus i just think that a failure in enforcing your own rules doesn't warrant cutting yourself in on the profits and contributing to the destruction of your own game the line has been crossed and for me it's no longer a game to me it's now a scheme to separate me from my money by dangling instant progression-laden services in front of my face and you now disadvantage yourself against other people if you ignore it and refuse to cough up the extra dull if i just play it as a game i feel like i'm disadvantaged again this is me i'm not telling you how you should think about it this is what i feel whenever i played current and it's gotten to the point to where the game itself has to be so over the top exceptionally good for me to look past it and although i do think shadowlands is an improvement over bfa it's nowhere near close enough like there's very little that you can't buy with real money in the game at this point you can buy levels you can buy currency you can buy gear you can buy great progression paid progression is bad enough for any genre but it's absolutely terrible for rpgs a genre that's centered around character progression so due to that and the many other issues that the game has i quit and the only reason i stuck with classic is because it was promised to be a re-release of the game in a state before it was bastardized beyond redemption and they flat out lied about it it was proven with the character boost i felt like this was such a betrayal to the classic community [Music] [Music] and i'm not alone in this what you're looking at is an unedited capture of the comments section of one of their burning crusade videos don't believe me just go check it out for yourself this is what blizzard has done to the classic community just an ongoing stream of people tired of the bs people tired of the lies and people tired of the greed and can you blame them i have zero trust in them to put gameplay first as they so claim so i'm quitting we now have leaks of the wow token in the cash shop which blizzard has said nothing about which should tell you all that you need to know i mean come on it's the very definition of this mean something is data mined and the forums are filled with threat after threat asking uh this isn't actually coming to the game right blizzard right and it's met with deafening silence that's all i need to know even if it doesn't come out that's the thing with trust it's hard to gain and easy to lose and if you lose it the player feels like their time spent isn't worthwhile for example unlocking your epic flying or getting all of this awesome crafted gear or having a big nest egg of gold it all has this black cloud hanging above and that's telling me this is a waste of time because it's likely that eventually people are just going to be able to buy this officially through blizzard's cash shop with no risk of a ban i know to a lot of you it's not a big deal whatever that's you i acknowledge that you exist but i think it's fair to acknowledge that i and many others also exist and if you agree with what i'm saying here i encourage you to let your voice be heard and show everyone just how much you supposedly don't exist i make this video not just to express my own voice but the countless voices no one can hear anymore because they've moved on and were just labeled as haters many of them being my friends by the way which is another reason i'm quitting friends i did the rank 14 grind with casual friends players from all levels of gameplay have quit due to the cash shop so even if i were to personally look past all of this my experience would still be lesser because i now have less friends playing i know that this is a cliche of every youtube channel that's ever existed but i don't take pleasure in [ __ ] on things you may find it entertaining i personally don't enjoy it that's not to say it shouldn't be talked about after all it seems to be the only way to get things changed as evidenced by them lowering their completely ludicrous 35 charge and cloning your classic character down to 15. you see now you're only getting screwed a little bit instead of a lot thanks for putting the player first blizzard by the way am i the only person who sees something wrong here there are like five level 60s playing on these classic era servers at any given point so why are they even charging people for it forget raiding and battlegrounds it's hard to even form a dungeon group at this point the game is nigh unplayable so how about a widget showing how many players are currently online before you charge people 15 to unlock the characters they've already leveled and geared no asking too much okay just so we're clear here how often is it that the player base feels like they have to fight for the game against the very people running it it's exhausting gameplay first should be in the best interest of both parties what's gameplay first about paying money to skip 57 levels of character progression and if your response is improved accessibility isn't it this very same gameplay destroying accessibility that current has been suffering from for the last decade that's chased away an audience large enough to populate 70 servers for a 15 year old version of their game in the first place it's just so fruitless and no one can say i didn't try i mean when you take the time to make a one hour video saying then the level boost isn't the end of it and next will be mounts pets toys and so on and in return people call you a conspiracy theorist to call you alex jones and then like a week later oh [ __ ] well i for one am shocked i mean what could go wrong in putting your faith in a company that's already gone back on their word multiple times or maybe showing basic math like two plus two equals four and that bots will abuse the level boost and then people reply nah fam two plus two equals negative seventeen it's not viable to skip 57 levels of progression well apparently they invested into the name chain service and switched to harry houdini because ever since screenshots like this came out they've magically disappeared what does this run on [Music] [Music] do it doesn't look like anything to me i cannot see the things that will happen i've spared them that their lives are blissful in a way their existence is purer than ours freed of the burden of self-doubt i don't understand you're a [ __ ] monster or how the old world is now abandoned because players feel a little silly leveling in a completely barren world when there's a big button on the login screen that sends you straight to the outland of course this is also due to dungeon boosting but even though that's harder to do now it's gotten way worse 90 of the alliance if they boost do so at level 15 and higher sets the minimum level to enter the stockades therefore westfall the most popular alliance leveling zone to get to 15 is a good example to provide here's westfall before the boosts were added and here's westfall in the afternoon on one of the most populated servers after the boosts the expansion is still fresh this is when the game gets the biggest influx of new players and it's a dead world on one of the most populated servers these aren't nostradamus level predictions anyone who wasn't willing to throw away common sense and over a decade of history could have made these predictions but sadly even with everyone collectively agreeing that bots had overrun the game it wasn't enough and now that it's in it's here to stay actually getting to level 60 now to make themselves look a little bit less obvious oh another one here we go quick inspects full communal [Music] another one varane exactly the same talents as all the other bots and they always sprint back inside another one navin jesus i've only been standing here for a few minutes another one night elf bring it to me oh yeah you're really you're really fooling everyone else with that name look at all these bots two three slow oh my god the character boost has already damaged the game irreparably and if slash when they release the token it'll mount even further so again this is me i personally am unwilling to go through it again yeah they are a business and yeah it's their right to earn money at the cost of gameplay but it's also my right to unsubscribe because the product they provide is now compromised past the point of playability clearly speaking up against it isn't enough so the only route left is to speak with your wallet they ostracized a community large enough to warrant over 70 servers for a recreation of a 15 year old version of their game just try to wrap your head around that for a moment and when you do try to wrap your head around the fact that they're now doing it for a second time i mean if i truly wanted to turn my channel into a [ __ ] on blizzard channel it would be trivial it writes itself at this point but it's just not what i want my content to be i mean of course why would you surround yourself with things that annoy you it's a pretty normal reaction it's not the atmosphere i want to set for the channel but you're put into this awkward position do you continue to do this and share your true feelings and thoughts do you stick true to your subscribers in this way even if it takes the channel into a direction you don't want to go in or do you sit down shut up and mute yourself because you don't want to churn waters and turn your channel into an outrage machine you should have seen this video in its first draft it was over an hour long i was going ham but i had a change of heart if my heart's behind something i want it to be an expression of a love care and passion that this game used to give me not the frustration and disappointment that it now gives me so negative honesty or positive indifference these are the two paths that have been laid before me for the past few months and i refuse to go down either i instead choose to carve my own the second reason for my quitting is for all intents and purposes this is a classic channel as mentioned i quit playing current i don't really have an interest in that classic overall i enjoy more but there's a drawback and i've known this ever since i made the transition that's the fact that classic is classic it's a solved game it's a beaten game therefore in the long run it just doesn't lend itself very well to a youtube channel there's an eventual finish line of things that i can talk about and while i feel like i haven't reached it yet there's a ton of stuff i still want to talk about it just makes sense to put an end to it before i reach that point i have at this point over 600 videos about world of warcraft i'm very proud of that number these videos were created with a passion behind them one that's been waning due to the aforementioned circumstances and running a youtube channel or a stream or any form of online entertainment there are a lot of abstract things that the viewers don't really see one of the most important being passion it's the reason why we get out of bed in the morning it's the reason why we care for things and people is the tender that lights the fire and keeps it burning bright and it's important in the realm of content creation because the more passionate someone is about something the better the end product is for example you have two streamers one is completely miserable they're not engaged it looks like the last place that they want to be in in the entire world is in that chair in front of that camera and you have streamer two who's having the time of their life they're clearly enjoying what they do glad to be a part of the community that they built excited for the future happy the show that streamer 2 puts out unless you're into misery porn is superior to the show that streamer 1 puts out if you care about something more you care about putting more effort into it it's the same with videos you'll think about what you're talking about more run it by other people get other people's perspective and learn new editing tricks if you're passionate about it you can say it with anything in life really and everyone relates to this in some way so that's where i stand right now i feel really frustrated and stifled creatively because i've started to lose that passion not for video editing but rather for the subject matter world of warcraft and if i were to continue to force myself into it would just result in the videos becoming less and less interesting less entertaining and lacking passion it hasn't gotten to that for me yet but i can feel it coming so what i need to do is to channel my energies into other things of which there are plenty i already have a bunch of stuff finished in script form but i haven't put in the time because i just prefer to spend it with classic but now with the level boost and the revving of the microtransaction chainsaw and the distance the skills are tipping i have no idea what'll happen or if you guys will even like it some of it is out there not gonna lie got some pretty weird [ __ ] coming your way i fully expect after posting this video that this is goodbye to a lot of people but before you head out i want you to leave with my sincere and undying thank you for the time that you've given me over the past six years time is the most important thing in life that you can spend and the amount of people i've reached over the years something that's so incredibly special to me and i mean this from the bottom of my heart it's something i'm very proud of back in the day when youtube was first starting up i was the viewer who when a certain channel released a video it made my day it turned a shitty day into a good one no matter what was going on so having known this perspective to be that channel for other people is something i'm very grateful for to provide and i wouldn't trade it for anything well almost anything i will trade it for my personal happiness because as i've explained i think it's just the best thing for everyone involved so i have no idea what'll happen but i follow my heart in all things in life and this is what my heart is telling me the fact that this channel exists at all is a result of me following my heart the only thing i do know is that i'd rather have a channel that's dead instead of one that isn't alive the third and final reason for me quitting is the biggest one even bigger than the previous two points it has nothing to do with the game youtube or anything like that it's a very personal one and i'm gonna keep it that way i've bared my heart up until this point but this is where i'll draw the line the trap that i feel a lot of content creators fall into is that they over share they let go of too much personal information about themselves or their personal life their relationships and unfortunately it's later used against them in various ways and from the beginning i promised myself that i wouldn't cross that line it's one of the reasons why you haven't seen my face as far as you guys know i'm just another voice in the ether a government text to speech program meant to spy on all of you and collect data but there was a glitch in my code and i just sort of talked about world of warcraft for six years saying it's been tough is an understatement but it's given me a lot of perspective of the value of time and how we need to use it in the best way that we possibly can no exceptions no compromises no settling on youtube and out of youtube i want to do things that matter i want to make things that are close to my heart and share things i'm passionate about and meet people who share those passions ultimately i feel like i don't get that anymore from world of warcraft so ultimately i'm moving on it's a decision that brings all sorts of emotions i'm sad because i'm moving on from something that's been a part of my life for the past 16 years i'm sad that i'm leaving behind the people playing it i'm sad that i'll be leaving the world of warcraft community but i'm excited for all of the free time i now have because god damn goddamn mmos are time-consuming and i'm excited to get into things i've been putting off for years and sharing that with you all and seeing what this next step of life has to offer but most of all i'm relieved i want to give my thanks to you the viewer for giving me the time as you've done so many times i want to thank my fellow content creators in the world of warcraft community you guys know who you are behind the scenes is just a group of friends or like-minded people i know we all disagree with each other in various things sometimes but i've always had a great respect for the care and passion that they've shown and i wish them nothing but the best in their future endeavors in closing i want to say that i'm not here to take away from anyone's fun or enjoyment if you're enjoying yourself good it's nice to have things in life that you enjoy but it's also not nice to have things in life that you enjoy taken away from you which is why this video exists for me at this point i feel like the bad outweighs the good and why pay 15 a month for that i'm sorry if this disappoints you but hey disappointment is my middle name i'm not really sure where i was going with that hang on let me redo [Music] do [Music] you are not prepared oh dude 4 strength 4 stam leather belt level 18. [Music] you are not prepared we're too late this entire city must be [Music] purged [Music] my son [Music] [Music] to ask why we fight is to ask why leaves fall why do we fight to preserve balance and bring harmony for the alliance oh hey there champion we got some more other night for your uncle magneto [Music] design [Music] so farewell for now mortals we hope you enjoyed today's video

Channel: MadSeasonShow

Views: 1,168,770

Keywords: wow, world of warcraft, madseasonshow, World of Warcraft, guide, tutorial, how-to, walkthrough, bfa, World Of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth (Video Game), World Of Warcraft (Video Game), wow classic, wow vanilla, 1.13, 1.12, 9.0, shadowlands, wow shadowlands, wow bc, wow tbc classic, quitting wow, unsubscribing, closing wow account, madseasonshow quit wow, madseason quit wow, wow subscriptions, no king rules forever, cash shop, vanilla wow, wow classic fresh

Id: xy89LRQ9muw

Length: 29min 48sec (1788 seconds)

Published: Sun Jul 25 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/Little_Bighorn]

Who else thought the ending of that video was so fucking cool?

[u/enterthedragonpunch]

From the pinned video comment:

As an addendum to the video: Recently, it was revealed that Blizzard has been under a 2 year investigation for sexual harassment, unequal pay and discrimination of their female employees, which is now moving forward with a lawsuit. The reasons for which I'm quitting and the contents of this video were all made prior to the news breaking(shown in the intro of the video).

My support goes out to all affected, but I just wanted to put it out there that this whole video was made before it all went public - I fear it may be seen as tone-deaf to nerdrage over cash shops when there are obviously much more serious things going on. I was thinking of delaying it because of this but honestly, scandals seem to be a weekly thing with this company now and I need to post this video so I can move forward with my life.

Thank you to the WoW community for hosting me for over 6 years(as stated in the video, I do have 1 more WoW video planned). I am fully aware that this move may mean that I will no longer be able to do Youtube for a living anymore. Often times on this site, when you establish yourself with one thing, deviating away from it means the death of a channel. Even still, it would be preferable to forcing myself into something I no longer believe in. I don't think I'll ever retire from making videos, as it is my true passion in life, and I will try my best to make it work. If it means that I will need to turn it back into a hobby I do on the side, I'm ready to embrace that(hey it would actually be nice to leave the confines of my basement more).

For those of you joining me on the next step of this adventure, I look forward to providing you with entertainment in the years to come. For those saying goodbye, thanks for sticking with me for so long and good luck to you in all things in life. Farewell for now, mortals.

tl;dr this decision and video was made right before the lawsuit came to light, the timing is coincidental. the video won't contain stuff about the lawsuit, but his wow-related reasons for quitting the game.

[u/EngineeringDouble892]

WILLE is next to go

[u/MidnightFireHuntress]

I'm quitting World of Warcraft and no you can't have my stuff

Daaaaaaamn =|

[u/Yums]

Farewell for now mortals, see you again... soon

[u/Squm9]

Excited for his new content but damn pretty bittersweet I suppose

[u/Pizzadaddy2]

I just love hearing him talk about whatever in general. I'm sure whatever he moves on to will be great

[u/test_kenmo]

At least, my (Vanilla) Classic experiences were amazing. I've beat all raid contents with awesome guildmate including Naxxramas which I couldn't break 4HM in Vanilla. Thank you and good-bye Blizzard.

[u/Fat_flatulence]

Great video by Madseason, always enjoyed his content and brought so much to the community! Loved the way he narrated and told stories.