>>> NEW REPORTING UNDERCUTTING A KEY TRUMP CLAIM ABOUT CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS FOUND AT MAR-A-LAGO. THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND ITS ALLIES HAVE INSISTED FALSELY THAT THE GENERAL SERVICES AGENCY PACKED THOSE BOXES THAT WERE ULTIMATELY SENT TO HIS FLORIDA ESTATE MAR-A-LAGO. NOW THE AGENCY HAS RELEASED HUNDREDS OF PICTURES OF FILES THAT SIMPLY WAS NOT THE CASE. CNN'S KRISTEN HOLMES IS HERE. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED AND WHY IS IT SIGNIFICANT? >> IN BETWEEN THE PAGES OF MINUTIA ABOUT OFFICE SUPPLIES AND WHAT'S GOING WHERE, THERE IS DWIGHT A BIT, THAT CLAIM FROM TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT WAS FOUND CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTWISE BY THE FBI AT MAR-A-LAGO BECAUSE HE SIMPLY DID NOT PACK THOSE BOXES. NOBODY IN HIS ORBIT PACKED THEM. IT WAS DONE BY THE GSA THE SMALL AGENCY THAT HELPS WITH TRANSITION. AND THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT DID THIS AND NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THESE DOCUMENTS DEBUNK THAT CLAIM. I WANT TO PULL UP THAT PICTURE BECAUSE THIS IS HOW THE GSA FOUND THE BOXES WHEN THEY ARRIVED TO MOVE THEM. YOU COULD TELL HERE, THEY WERE NOT UNPACKED IN ANY WAY. THEY ARE COMPLETELY PACKED, THEY ARE LABELED AND THEY ARE SHRINK WRAPPED WAITING FOR THE GSA TO PICK THEM UP THIS CAME FROM A TRUMP AIDE WHO WAS SHOWING THE GSA WHAT IT WAS THAT NEEDED TO BE MOVED AND TRANSPORTED DOWN TO FLORIDA. NOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INTERESTING FINDINGS, I WANT TO NOTE. ONE OF THEM, THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME LINE AND THE DATES ON THOSE EMAILS. WHILE WE KNOW NOW THAT THESE BOXES WERE SIMPLY SITTING ON PALLETS IN AN EFFORT OFFICE SPACE SHRINKED INCLUDING 30 BANKERS BOXES WHICH ARE THE TYPE OF BOXES RETRIEVED BY THE FBI THIS IS HAPPENING AT THE EXACT SAME TIME THAT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES WAS STARTING TO RAISE ALARMS, RAISED CONCERNS THAT THEY WERE MISSING PART OF THE PRESIDENT'S RECORDS. WHAT'S INTERESTING THAT NEVER COMES UP, DOCUMENTS NEVER COME UP IN THE EXCHANGES BACK AND FORTH BUT WHAT DOES COME IS THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES. THIS IS RAISED BECAUSE AN AIDE ASKED THE GSA IF IT WOULD BE WILLING TO TRANSPORT A 300-POUND, 6 FOOT BY 8 FOOT PORTRAIT OF TRUMP THAT HE RECEIVED AS A GIFT DOWN TO MAR-A-LAGO. THE GSA SAID THEY WILL NOT DO THAT. THAT THAT IS A GIFT. AND TALKS ABOUT THE RULES OF THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES, WHAT GOES THERE. AND SAYS THAT'S PERSONAL PROPERTY SO IT DOESN'T FALL IN THE SAME CATEGORY BUT INTERESTINGLY, NONE OF THOSE DOCUMENTS EVER COME UP. JOHN, I DO WANT TO NOTE, WE CANNOT CONFIRM ANY OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE IN THOSE BOXES WERE WHAT WAS RECOVERED BY THE FBI OR TURNED OVER TO THE ARCHIVES, BUT ALL OF THIS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORTING. LET'S BRING FORMER STATE PROSECUTOR ELLIE HONIG INTO THE CONVERSATION. OUR REPORTER IS HERE AS WELL. ELIE, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE DOCUMENTS WERE THESE, AND TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES SAYING THE GSA PACKED THE BOXES, THE GSA DID THIS. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE VISUAL PROOF THAT NO, THESE WERE ACTUALLY PACKED UP BY THE TRUMP TRANSITION AIDES. IT'S A BORING EMAIL BUT VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHO DID WHAT, RIGHT? >> YEAH, JOHN, IT'S CRUCIAL BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE HEART OF KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROSECUTORS ARE LOOKING AT. IF IN FACT IT WAS THE CASE THAT GSA PACKED UP THE DOCUMENTS AND TRANSPORTED THEM WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT WENT DOWN TO MAR-A-LAGO THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT POINT IN DEFENSE OF DONALD TRUMP AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM. BUT, OF COURSE, THAT TURNS OUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE AS KRISTEN JUST REPORTED THERE ARE DOCUMENTS SHOWING THAT THESE DOCUMENTS WERE PACKED BY PEOPLE AROUND DONALD TRUMP. AND, FRANKLY, DONALD TRUMP AS AB ACKNOWLEDGED SUCH IN HIS STATEMENT. AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY WERE MOVED TO MAR-A-LAGO PIPE GUARANTEE PROSECUTORS ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO IT. >> WELL, PROSECUTORS ARE PAGE ATTENTION TO THE GSA, THEY MIGHT ALSO LISTEN TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT, HE WAS OUT THIS WEEKEND. AND HE SAYS THERE'S NO CRIME HERE AND I WANT MY DOCUMENTS BACK. >> NO CRIME. YOU KNOW THERE'S NO CRIME. IT'S NOT A CRIME. AND THEY SHOULD GIVE ME IMMEDIATELY BACK EVERYTHING THEY'VE TAKEN FROM ME. BECAUSE IT'S MINE. IT'S MINE. THEY TOOK IT FROM ME IN THE RAID. THEY BROKE INTO MY HOUSE. >> ELIE, THEY LEGALLY SERVED A SEARCH WARRANT THAT WAS ISSUED BY A FEDERAL JUDGE, THEY DIDN'T BREAK INTO HIS HOUSE, THEY LEGALLY RECOVERED WHAT THEY COULD RECOVER. TO THE POINT WHERE THE FORMER PRESIDENT SAYS IT'S MINE, IT'S MINE. IS IT HIS? >> NO. WELL, SOME OF IT ACTUALLY IS, JOHN, A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF IT, BUT WE ACTUALLY LEARNED JUST ON FRIDAY THAT THEY'RE NOW GOING THROUGH THIS SPECIAL MASTER PROCESS THERE IS A SET OF NARROW DOCUMENTS THAT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS TEAM AGREE WERE PERSONAL PROPERTY OF DONALD TRUMP AND THEY ARE BEING RETURNED TO DONALD TRUMP. HOWEVER, THAT IS A SMALL FRACTION OF THE TOTAL DOCUMENTED SEIZED AT MAR-A-LAGO. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE. BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SENSITIVE DOCUMENTS WHICH BOTH SIDES IN SOME CASES BELIEVE ARE NOT DONALD TRUMP'S PROPERTY. IT'S A MIXED DIRECTION HERE. SOME PERCENTAGE WERE DONALD TRUMP BUT THOSE AREN'T THE BULK OF MATERIALS AND THOSE AREN'T THE ONES THAT PROSECUTORS ARE FOCUSED ON. >> MISDIRECTION IS AN IMPORTANT WORD. ELIE, SAY WITH US. ABOUT WHOSE DOCUMENTS THEY ARE, JUST CONFUSED PEOPLE OUT THERE. LISTEN TO DONALD TRUMP THIS WEEKEND, SAYING I'M UNDER INVESTIGATION. HE TELLS HIS SUPPORTERS, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PRESIDENTS? >> WHEN WILL THEY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE BILL CLINTON, HILLARY CLINTON, GEORGE BUSH AND LOOK AT WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH GEORGE BUSH'S FATHER, A VERY NICE MAN AND THE WAREHOUSE OF DOCUMENTS. AND WHAT ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, UNDER POTENTIAL PROSECUTION. >> THIS IS CLASSIC TRUMP AND MISDIRECTION, IN THE SENSE THAT HE WANTS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN. HE KNOWS ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS, WE'LL SEE WHERE THEY GET US SUBSTANTIVE BY THEN, A LONG WAY 2024, SAYING THEY'RE ALL CORRUPT. EVERY INVESTIGATION. WHERE ARE THE INVESTIGATIONS OF EVERYBODY ELSE. THIS IS A TIME-TESTED TRUMP STRATEGY. >> ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS WHAT BROKE AFTER THE DOCUMENTS THAT BROKE THAT THEY MAY CONTAIN NUCLEAR SECRETS. HE SAID BARACK OBAMA TOOK 30 MILLION RECORDS, WHAT ABOUT HIM. ALL OF THIS MADE-UP STUFF. I THINK HE'S TRYING TO DISTRACT OR NORMALIZE WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HIM OR POLITICIZE THE FBI THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING AFTER HIM, BUT THEY HAVEN'T GONE AFTER PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS FOR SIMILAR CRIMES, MISDEMEANORS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S MISDIRECTION, TRYING TO CONFUSE HIS SUPPORTERS AND MISDIRECTION FROM WHAT HAPPENED. WHEN THIS HAPPENED, EVERYONE THOUGHT THIS COULD BE GOOD FOR TRUMP BUT OF COURSE THE DETAILS CAME OUT AND IT'S BEEN VERY DAMAGING. >> WE KNOW GOING BACK TO THE EARLY DAYS OF THE PRESIDENCY. THAT HE OBSESSES ABOUT CROWDS. CROWDS. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO THIS OBSESSION ABOUT THE CROWDS. >> BIGGEST CROWD I'VE EVER SEEN -- JANUARY 6. AND YOU NEVER HEAR THAT. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST. AND THEY WERE THERE LARGELY TO PROTEST A CORRUPT AND RIGGED AND STOLE EVLECTION. >> HE'S PROUD OF THE BIG CROWD ON JANUARY 6th. PART OF THAT CROWD ATTACKING THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT INJURED, BRUTALLY BEAT POLICE OFFICERS. THREATENED THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE'S PROUD OF THAT. >> YEAH, OF COURSE, HE WOULD SAY HE'S REFERENCING THE CROWD THAT PRECEDED THE RIOT. BUT I THINK IT GOES TO SHOW THAT HIS PRIORITIES ARE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REALLY ROOTED IN POLICY GOVERNING, NOT ROOTED IN THE TRUTH OFTEN. IT'S ROOTED IN, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF SELF-SATISFYING BEHAVIOR, KIND OF. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE FROM A FORMER PRESIDENT. BUT THIS IS CLASSIC DONALD TRUMP. >> WELL, AND THE STORY FOR TRUMP IS NOT HIM, IT'S EVERYBODY AROUND HIM. WE KNOW DONALD TRUMP CARES MORE ABOUT CROWDS THAN ANYTHING ELSE BUT WHAT'S MORE TELLING IS IT'S OCTOBER OF '22, HE'S GIVING THAT SPEECH AFTER BEING IMPEACHED TWICE. LEAVING OFFICE IN DISGRACE. AND THE STATEWIDE CANDIDATES IN THE STATES ARE STILL SHOWING UP WITH HIM, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE OF A PENALTY POLITICALLY IN THEIR MINDS FOR NOT SHOWING UP THAN STANDING WITH HIM. THAT, TO ME, IS THE BIGGEST REVEAL OF THE STATE OF HIS PARTY AND WHAT HE'S DONE IN THIS PARTY. WE KNOW WHAT DONALD TRUMP. WHAT THE TELL IS HOW HE'S RESHAPED ONE OF THE TWO PARTIES IN THIS COUNTRY.
