'Never seen a defendant beg for it more': James Comey on whether Trump will go to jail

PLAYOUT IN NEW YORK WILL BE THE ONLY ONE TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. JAMES COMEY IS JOINING ME. HE HAS WRITTEN A BRAND-NEW BOOK. A CRIME THRILLER IN CONNECTICUT. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK. I WANTED TO START WITH THE NEWS . BEFORE THE VERDICT YOU SAID IT WAS LIKELY TO RESULT IN A CONVICTION. ANY YEAR AGO YOU MADE THE PREDICTION. DO YOU THINK HE WILL BE WEARING AN ANKLE BRACELET? >> IT SEEMS UNLIKELY. I'VE NEVER SEEN A DEFENDANT BECK FORT MOORE BY ATTACKING THE JUDGE AND JURY AND WITNESSES. ONE KEY THING IN ASSESSING A SENTENCE, A JUDGE LOOKS IF YOU ARE SORRY FOR WHAT YOU DID. >> PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED THERE ARE RANGE OF FACTORS THAT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT -- THE SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN TESTED IN THIS WAY. WOULD BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT INSTITUTIONS TO PUT THEM IN JAIL?>> THEY WOULD PUT HIM IN A DOUBLE WIDE OUT THERE THE GRASS AND HE WOULD EAT THERE AND SHOWERED THERE AND EXERCISE THEIR AND BE AWAY. IT IS DOABLE.>> YOUR NAME WAS BROUGHT UP IN DAVID TESTIMONY. CAN YOU DESCRIBE -- THERE WAS A JANUARY MEETING THAT YOU ATTENDED AND AT THE MEETING TRUMP SAID THAT DAVID PECKER IS MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE ROOM. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT. YOU SUGGESTED HIS ACCOUNT WAS DIFFERENT FOR ME RECOLLECTION. WHAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR RECOLLECTION? >> I WAS NEVER IN A MEETING WITH HIM. I THINK HE MAY HAVE PASSED ME IN THE HALLWAY. SO IN HIS MEMORY, I'M KIND OF A GIRAFFE. BUT I WAS NEVER IN A MEETING. I WROTE IN A MEMO EVERY CONVERSATION I HAD. >> SO YOU WERE NEVER IN A MEETING WITH HIM. >> NEVER. >> I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER THREE CASES. THREE OTHER CASES ARE PENDING INCLUDING TWO FEDERAL CASES THAT ARE IN DEFINITELY ON HOLD. I WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID TO ME LAST JUNE. >> I CANNOT IMAGINE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE HIM, WOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT SO FAR IN ADVANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A RESOLUTION BEFORE HE WOULD TAKE OFFICE. >> WE ARE WAITING FOR THE IMMUNITY RULING. DO YOU THINK THEY CAN STILL GET IT DONE BEFORE NOVEMBER?>> IT SEEMS UNLIKELY. AND I DID NOT MEAN TRUMP TAKING OFFICE. I MET BEFORE THE ELECTION. I DON'T THINK EITHER CASE WILL BE RESOLVED BY THEN. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE ATTACKS. THERE ARE ATTACKS ON ALVIN BRAGG AND THE JUDGE. HE SAID IT COULD WEIGH IN ON THE SENTENCING. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DANGER OF THAT AND HOW CONCERNED YOU ARE ABOUT A REPEAT OF THE VIOLENCE WE SAW ON JANUARY 6.>> I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ATTACKS ON INDIVIDUALS. IT'S WHY WE CREATED THE FEDERAL WITNESS SECURITY PROGRAM. I NEVER THOUGHT THE MOP THREATS WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND WING NUTS IN MAGA WORLD WHO WOULD TAKE STEPS TO HARM PEOPLE. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT LARGE- SCALE VIOLENCE. I THINK A MESSAGE WAS SENT AND STILL BEING SENT BY THE DOJ THAT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF THE WOULD BE MARCHERS. I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE HARDLY ANYONE AT HIS LEGAL APPEARANCES. I REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL THREATS. >> I WAS AT THE COURTHOUSE ON TUESDAY. IT WAS A VERY SMALL CROWD. TRUTH CAN BE STRANGER THAN FICTION. BUT THIS IS YOUR SECOND BOOK. TELL US ABOUT YOUR INSPIRATION FOR THE BOOK AND WHAT DID YOU DRAW FROM YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES? >> IT IS A WHODUNIT. THE FIRST BOOK WAS IN MANHATTAN. THIS IS A HEDGE FUND IN CONNECTICUT. IT GAVE ME ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO BRING MY CHARACTERS TO A DIFFERENT WORLD AND TELL A STORY THAT PEOPLE WILL FIND A GOOD SUMMER READS. >> HAS THIS BECOME CATHARTIC FOR YOU? IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WILL BE HER LAST ONE. IS IT MORE CATHARTIC THAN WORKING IN THE FBI? >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO TESTIFY IN FRONT OF CONGRESS. BUT I FIND IT HARDER THAN I EXPECTED BUT MUCH MORE FUN. I CAN SHOW PEOPLE PLACES I'VE KNOWN WELL THROUGH FICTION WITH MORE FREEDOM THAN I

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Published: Sun Jun 02 2024