Nas Explains Why Him And Biggie Didn't Do A Record Together, Talks King's Disease, Belly And More

wake that ass up in the morning the breakfast club it only took us 10 years to get this individual from a breakfast club and he doesn't do more he doesn't do more than his ladies and gentlemen but he's here with us this morning ladies and gentlemen nice thank you honored to be here peace king please kang first of all i got to give you a round of applause on putting out an amazing body of work in king's disease album is dope man very very very refreshing i call it a dope contemporary hip-hop you know when you when when you over 40 you need something to be under the pergola sipping your cognac too so i appreciate it appreciate that man what is king's disease what is that what is is what is the king's disease it's the thing that comes that comes when you're on top of your game you know you can uh you can over indulge in things that could be a demise you can it comes with not being on point um i mean it comes from uh uh gout and and you know these these terms that were these on um from eating too much rich foods drinking too much wine but i flipped it into a lot more like being a king watch out for hate watch out for uh diseasing yourself with being drunk on power and ego you know it's a multi-layered man i see you hooked up with hit boy on this one how did you hit boy get up me and hit we um we met years ago we was um i was trying to work with him a long time ago i just i just admired his work so um i just came by to see him to get a beat i just felt like working i came by and got a beat and i ain't leave we just we we got into a zone and then um they say you know we're working on an album and you got a firm reunion on the album so who's that was that you that said yo we gotta do this did somebody come to you and say let's put to put out a song uh hit boy it was hit he said yo um we need to get a z on the track and i was just like wow like i knew he was really invested in i knew he really was serious about what we was working on when he mentioned a and i knew az was working on his new stuff too so it's perfect timing and then g-code was like why don't you call called mega at foxy brown and i just it just light bulbs was going off and it was just like let's let's get at it so they was with it and um happy so so who is in the firm is it because because i was like well where's nature where's nature why didn't you make the record it's mega fox is it nature is it like who who's the verb az yeah it started with me az cormega and foxy brown and that's the that's the one um we did uh affirmative action on my album and yeah after that it was like a split had happened and um me and megan fell out crazy and it never it never panned out the way it was supposed to with that four and you know we went on and did the album nature's on the album and nori's on the album and you know we we um you know wanted to get back to uh me and megan once we talked it was just like let's pregnant let's bring that formula back for this record it's a great time i was check i was just checking on him see how he was see i was doing this because we didn't know what tomorrow was gonna bring and you know what i'm saying it's just like this is a great time just to catch up anyway so we just caught up and put and continue from affirmative action you know full circle right and dr j even pops up on it too yeah that's the secret the secret sauce in the song right there dr dre he came at the end and really made it full circle yeah shout out to dre really doesn't ride on elevators huh was that always a thing even back then like he won't get in the elevator what how you know that his elevators he takes elevated but i mean where are you going not packing elevators no it's listen cause i had a birthday party i was at the bowling alley and he came but he wouldn't come upstairs because he doesn't ride elevators and think he said he got uh in the elevator as a kid i don't know i didn't know i didn't know that i didn't know he still don't write elevators he's still elevated though he's still elevating yeah i need you to partner with az and and and and put an a-z out of mouth cause az sound like fresh like wow fresh water they all do it like water like water we've been talking about that off and on for a long time and you did some collaborations with artists you've never worked with before so i thought that was pretty fresh with this too it's a nice balance like we get the nostalgia with the firm but then we see you with anderson pack you know we see you with other artists that you haven't worked with previously so how do you decide what collaborations you want to do well we're working with hit it was like i like he really was in the front seat a driver's seat we both were driving but he's like you know he has his ideas he has his ideas and directions and stuff so um you know with big sean too um it was like he he knew it was like we felt what needed to happen who we needed to work with and we just wanted to work with the perfect people for each song what do you what do you think before we get back to king's disney because king disease is so phenomenal what do you think went wrong with the kanye west album um i don't know what went wrong i would say i did want to i did want to work more with him i did we we spent some time there but i mean i was working on ideas he would give me um like a few loops and i would write to them but it wasn't finished and he was working on a lot he had cuddy tiana taylor he had his album and i was the only one coming in starting fresh so i got the less time with him you know we really did that album like that week that was supposed to come out it seemed a little rushed like even with cop shot the kid cop like that idea is insane slick rick sample but it just seemed like the way the loops was on top of each other was hard to hear it just seemed like it was rushed and i'm like ah yeah i kind of felt that too um yeah i just it just it just went crazy it just went crazy once we announced we was doing the album it just went crazy after that you know i definitely wanted to work with him a lot more than we did do you regret that album no no i like cops i like cop shot the kid i like um adam and eve i like um i like the music and simple things of life i like um you know it's just short it's a short album um it just we just didn't get enough time to really i wish we worked on it more but certain things happen for reasons you know when you first came in and i was gonna say in the league but when you first came on the scene and you signed your first deal back then everybody was raping artists getting artists you signing artists not getting your necessary publishing how was your first deal as a young artist as a team i thought it was amazing because back then we thought only r b artists were getting like real deals like like big budgets because they could go far they could their records could go a lot further than hip-hop records at the time so to get i got like a 250 000 budget um overall you know like for my pocket i think was uh uh 30 000 something like that but you know um back then that was everything i was good i was good it was it was decent it was decent you know but um it was a learning process and i knew it was going to be signing the contract you know what leverage do you have they betting on you you know i'm saying they putting up everything and um i was just wanting the opportunity i was just happy enough all i needed was opportunity and i'll take it from there when when you were coming up you know the songs were like four to seven minutes now i i noticed on king's disease a lot of the songs are shorter to fit you know more the the format of three minutes or less nowadays how do you think that impacted the creative process of the music that wasn't the focus i was hoping that the songs wasn't long and i was i i really thought the songs were longer than it was while i was recording them and then at the end it's like nah we good we right here and i'm like wow the songs are not they're right as long as i don't need that much that much time to get my thing off no more thank god you know i know how to say what i need to say now and um um just the right way so i don't need that much time no more you feel like you celebrate life a lot more now than you did when you were younger i feel like you weren't that big on wanting to do interviews or talk about your personal life but now it feels like you're in a good space like it's been like you said 27 summers since illmatic even came out and now you've got your adventure capitalism going on you have restaurants we celebrated he was partying back in the day you could catch knives in any club in new york city it felt a little different now it felt like a more i don't know grow mature type of celebration because it feels real stable for you just with everything going on so i woke up and i said i made it oh i i gotta be proud of this you know i gotta you wake up you you run for so long that you don't have time to stop and look around and you know you know you're just running and you know then you get to a point in your life where you're like okay i can i can settle down and kind of chill and like all right let's talk about it let's talk about this you know yeah i think i'm happy i think um considering all the times that we're in you know i think i'm um i'm at a strong place i mean you can tell even on the definition you talking about gout and getting your uric acid levels up high and drinking lemongrass and cherries alkaline water are you giving people the blueprint how to live i mean at this point got to you know got to you know it's all about balance moderation um taking into the right things into your body um that's important that's important to me uh i'm not speaking to that song uh shout out to brucey b yes so happy to have him on on the record and a record i talk about a lot of things including somebody who i say is cool with me gail king and um i think she's uh a bright light but you know there was things that had that had that had happened that made me a little upset and um it made me um just open up and say things that you know that i think we could bring that could push us all into a better place if we you know just talk about it but it's all love that was a very barbershop moment though what the [ __ ] is up with gayle king that was a bad but you asked some good it was natural i didn't plan that i didn't plan that i didn't know what was gonna happen it just came out but you know i know she means well i know she means well but me being i know what that's like to be accused [ __ ] so you know that's it but you know um on another note um on the health side of it of that same song i had a friend who had king's disease too i knew about two to three people that that had this thing and it's about your diet you know what i'm saying taking care of yourself so on the definition i wanted to end it with that like take care of self you had a good line on that song too even after the king thing when you talk about journalism or internalism like what's the difference to you i mean it's sort of like what you guys do it is what you guys do you guys do great journalism i'm not just saying that because we hear everybody knows that about you guys you guys are the ones so it's like there's a side of it where it isn't there's an integrity part but there's also a side of it where you have to do great journalism and it's like which part of it is you guys got a hard job it's like we're part of it do you throw everything out the window and and or what part of it do you carry yourself in there with some integrity and and and do it like the greats did it you know what i mean you know i always wanted to ask one thing that always impressed me about you now's was was your investments and investments you did i i think it was like 2008 2009 2010 when you were beefing with everybody the the one thing that was like oh nas is broke knives ain't got no money naws always the irs he's having financial problems and then all of a sudden like clockwork you just started seeing all these investments start popping out the word words like nah's invested in this and i was invested in this now he's invested in that so how did you get the the mind frame to start becoming an investor the way that you did because it wasn't something small like when you came out the gate you came out with some big investments um well first i don't really get i don't really trip off what people are saying whether they're saying i'm up i'm down i really wish nobody would talk about either one like i really got into uh what i got into because it was just how much i was maturing into i always wanted to be a businessman i think i as a kid i i had you know i would say i put my room i had folders i had uh i had a typewriter i had like i was working on different operations as a little kid i had uh um i was doing a comic business man i was doing uh board game business i was writing screenplays i i was a kid with this you know what i'm saying so i did always see myself as a empire running an empire when i was like eight nine years old like and i think there's a lot of kids out there like that so i knew at one point i would get back into uh uh get into that but at the time man i was having a good time blowing money burning money to the ground enjoying life sharing and love i was having a good time i just matured man what was your first investment do you remember your first big investment genius dropbox uh i don't want to talk about that i know about all of those we know about genius we know about dropbox we know about lyft we know about coinbase like the home base you know coinbase was a big one you know that was one of the ones i was really proud of so i was going to ask you why do you think you're left out of those conversations you know despite your business moves and major investments but it's clearly because you don't choose to be in them that part what are you scared who you scared of i arrested what are you scared of you don't fear nothing the bottom line is like it doesn't that that's never been my thing that's too much attention i'm already on the stage it's just i'm not good at all that i don't want i'm not in it for that i mean not no not to nobody i love everybody doing what they do but why do i why does my business got to be out there i'd rather just do what i do you know that's just me that's it knives don't like attention that's what i'm saying he just be wanting to be low-key do his music but that's somebody you don't call bs on that i know people call bs on it it is what it is you know you had a firm code with a qb chain on a roof with diddy how you didn't like attention man come on that's hip hop now envy has told us and i'm glad that we have you here to clear this up oh boy had an issue with him telling a story about an interaction that he had where you allegedly had to approach him he didn't pull right there allegedly pulled out a gun on me because i got damn a legend it was me i was like 19. i was in the back of jamaica avenue i'm getting one up to now's on my book bag i said i got something for you in my bag he said what you got for me when i went in the bag and pulled out a mixtape now i had a gun and i was like it's just a mixtape he's like don't do that you know how the streets are and he got his gs and he took off that was real there was no allegedly he did it that was before bodyguard that was before before i was used to people recognizing me uh that happened a couple of times and that definitely happened with dj envy i didn't know you at the time it's jamaica queens you know how volatile jamaica queens is you know so love man now i want you to know that's the first dj envy war story that has ever been confirmed on the breakfast club all these other street war stories don't be adding up he's the only person there you're the first person to confirm one damn envy why'd you have to say anything listen i feel like on king's disease black women were a real muse for this album am i right yes sir that's a they had a backbone they are they are everything and uh i noticed like when i put out lost tapes the other time i was thinking about it i'm like i'm really i'm a rapid rap kind of guy i like to rap and in that case that's like there's no songs about the women in my life so i had to change that to open that up i needed that conversation i needed to be more transparent with women and dating and life and you know yeah it was so on point like when i heard tell the war is one i'm like yo did he write this yesterday because literally all friday it was protect black women protect black women protect black women so i'm like wow how how have black women showing up for you in your life excuse me i said how have black women showing up for you in your life when you say that uh you know the black on black women is the backbone it starts with my mom's you know she was a great example and i didn't listen to her she would try to warn me about you know like the song says take your time young man and i ain't listening i was just running around you know but you know in hindsight retrospect her words are they with me now you know so um it started with her she's the example and then um even more now than it used to be and you know it's all love it's all love what does winning the war look like to you when you say you say it's not over to the war as well what does one in the world look like that means all people of all ethnicities wise enough getting over yourselves get out of ignorance educated on all of our differences so we could co-exist in this world in this country um the war good versus evil that we're in right now what's the old knives like i see on the um on the album you say looking at them what what's the what is the old noise like people though you want to own us listen to an old clue like what what are people saying they want the old knives like what is the older it it leaned a little bit more to what the younger guys would talk about even to today you know um um street stuff is always going to be number one i'm always going that's going to be me but the like going over the top you know the stuff we like the stuff the hardest stuff the hardest hardest hardest stuff you may you might not hear that from me the way it was because i'm different but you always got those clue tapes and all of that you wouldn't snuff jesus at the age you had now now look you have songs like replace me and we don't ever hear you too much in interviews talking about relationships so i got to ask you have you ever had your heart broken yeah um 16 years old um this girl named tears t i'm sorry put your name out there wherever you are um but i also also mentioned her on car 85 um but then after that it was um all of them man all of them man my baby mamas all of them you know i mean it's it's life you go to it how many young girls jumped in your dm when they heard you say you're a sugar daddy i mean you said you put it out there now you say you're a sugar daddy you know what i could speak like that because i'm really not but declare let's clear that up because it's past tense is is pat you know i i've been there i'm a lot slow i slowed down a lot i slowed down you know i was dating the same girls the young rapper dudes who was messed up oh yeah yeah that's just ramen that's just bars i just threw their name out there always rhyming somebody's name and it gets you into trouble because then people be like who is he talking about like you know you say does your cat's name but that was just because you said it rhymes with the talked to a girl songs time she told me about this dude um and i didn't know who he was but he's some new rapper that you know was really crazy about her but she seemed so much so mature and she's dealing with this young rapper and it's like this is i was just like i run into the same women that the young dudes you know what i'm saying this is great anymore not anymore i meant to ask that roxy and shantae really threaten you at the at the end of the movie you know she comes up to you and you were the rapper does she really threaten you so you get yourself together i'ma punch in your face was that rude was that true no she said next time i see you if you don't have your [ __ ] together can i curse yeah she said if you don't have your [ __ ] together i'm [ __ ] you up so i was hiding from her i was hiding from her because she know she was she she was tough you know she was tough and she was she was serious and that showed me how serious the game is that showed me how serious you got to be about this and she was a girl and back in those days she was speaking to uftfo in a way that in a society in a society we lived in we wasn't used to women talking to somebody like that like i would hear the older guys um saying you know upset about some of her lyrics in the song because i i'm learning from this world i mean i'm like oh they're not used to women you know bucking back roxanne's revenge i'm like so in her own right roxanne chante is like a a freedom fighter through hip-hop you know what i'm saying so i i acknowledged that and um i always looked up to him you know on replace me too you say only thing worse than being alone is wishing you were can you unpack that a little bit yeah if you're with the wrong person and you realize your life should be going in a different direction you know you wondering what it would be like if you was free and to do what you you know that's like a prison that's prison so you'd rather be alone you know saying if you're alone and you're happy because you know then you're good but if you're with somebody you wish you was alone that's worse yeah i always say that there's nothing worse than when you got to lay next to somebody and feel lonelier than you would feel you didn't have anybody there sometimes people just be in relationships just for the sake of not being alone and there's nothing worse than that feeling don't do it i will not that now you also had said you had another secret project that's supposed to be happening is that still happening yes is it music what is it it's music uh did what i was talking about was music okay how have you felt knowledge about the criticism that you know your production has always been lackluster that's what people always say about knives he don't have the beats um i don't know i i think um that people may i know i choose to rap on things that i like you know i'm a rapid i'm like the rap type of guy so i just like to rap on beats that allow me to open up um uh but i don't i think if you know things just snowball and it's just one of the things people talk about but i don't i don't get it i work with some of the greatest producers i work with some of the new producers i always did i don't i don't i don't i mean i don't make no sense to me that easy with hillmatic and then you know it was written i am i never i didn't i never understood where the lack of the like knives wrap over whack beats like what what halftime's whack like new york state of mind as a white person yes sir i appreciate that certain people will see me and they don't like that i'm doing good they don't like that i'm able to have by the grace of the most high to sustain and do what i do it makes me they they think that it should be harder for me like it ain't hard enough they think that i have a good a lot of people think so many ways about me i hear things all the time and it bothers them if if you bother by me man like that's on you but i wish you the best you know rayquan we had rayquan up here uh i think a couple of weeks ago and he was talking about your relationship and how y'all got so tight what did you see in rayquan i was like yo i wanna i really wanna [ __ ] with with some myself i saw me i said i think likewise with him i thought i think we saw each other and um we just bonded from the first time first day i met him was a summer jam they walked they kicked in the door you know we were in that big area it comes in and just popped the champagne bottles i'm like that's right like that's how i'm supposed to meet rayquan right walking on hit on that and popping bottles as soon as it was a celebration just to be in that arena coming from where we coming from and we had this radio station's first summer gym or whatever so it was just like a beautiful thing because he was the way i imagined them to be right do you remember your purple tape session i kind of do i kind of do because it was a few sessions i i was at and um it was late night staten island studio vibes it was in somebody's crib if i'm not mistaken it felt like it felt like you know the real thing because that's one of the greatest that is to me one of the greatest hip-hop verses that was spit like i cuz i think about i love the intros to records right like who sets the song off and when you come on through the lights cameras and actions glamour glitters and gold i unfold the scroll plants need to stampede the globe like those those are different bars right there thank you man yeah to wrap with rayquan and ghostface you know he wasn't coming for it you know you know you need to belong man so shout out to rayquan and go some of the greatest lyricists that ever that ever got involved with this thing man the purple tape is a super monumental thing happy 25th anniversary to the rayquan cuban links album i'm honored to be on that man with so many artists that you know you always had the artist loved you and then they disliked you for a little bit and then they loved you again was it because it's one of those things where you not the type of person that's going to go all out to people's parties because we can go from whether it was prodigy whether it was nori mega i think even anger for a little bit hope like there's so many artists that you came up with that y'all were super tight and then y'all stopped [ __ ] with each other for a while why why was that i'm a nice guy i don't get it i think i'm a nice guy and maybe because they're not so accessible like they want you to do things and that was the biggest part and you know we're young we was young and um um we didn't know you know we just we didn't know because it's love for all of them you know um they got love for me today we're great today everybody we're great um we just all had to grow up you know and i think they understand me man you know nora's like yo do you know what's going on outside do you even know do you like nori i know i know like yo do you know man you sure man cause dudes be thinking that you just on some other planet somewhere i'm like bro i'm right here you know so he knows that you know we talk all the time but um yeah for years and years i think people were trying to i've never changed i've always been the same way you know and i think people realize it's not an act you know what i'm saying wait what is your writing process like because you know some artists will be like oh i went in i wrote a song in five minutes i didn't even have to write the lyrics down but what's your writing process because obviously yours are a lot more complex than that and i would also assume that you some you just you just don't go in the studio and knock songs out like that like some artists do with hit boy he hit change that um he was more uh you know say that you know i say what do you think about this oh that's fire say that we have a conversation and we talk about something he go oh nah and i go it sounds like a bar yeah say that mike is right there say that no i like that and it kind of like pushed me in the confidence side and it was like there is no mistakes you say what you want to say there is no mistakes and that freedom i was able to just everything i said to him was like that's good and i'm over critical and i didn't have to do that so i didn't have to write it it just it wrote itself it just came out some of the things i had like notes that i had in my phone and i was able to oh this goes with this this goes with that but it was a lot of it was hit pushing me like no i like that say that do you know envy brought up the fact that you've had issues with other artists do you think jay-z releases projects on your album release dates on purpose that's what everybody says every time i saw 50 say that the wool kid i see a little meme going around no no i think i think maybe there's an energy that we both have where we maybe we feel like we work around the same time and then they said still mad it came out december 18th they said aj released unplugged then it says street disciple november 30th then collision course nasa's greatest hits american gangster nazia everything is love the lost tapes beyonce jay-z lion king that's where it got stupid with the lion lion king soundtrack is when it gets caught and the reason he was an entrepreneur well i what's collision course that's the album the lincoln park joint yeah oh a world yo bro that's a hell of a coin that's some coincidence um you know i mean i don't know about that i think things just happen it's just synergy man you know um you know jay would know jay would know better than me now this album wasn't on death jam right this album was on your own masterpiece are you off deaf gym are you only on mass appeal now yeah i'm only on mass appeal man it's about um it's a couple of years old and um it's still i'm still dusting off uh you know still getting it right and um but i'm so happy to be at a thriving company and that we built from the ground up uh the record company we built that from the ground up man and uh we got dave east man we got a we got some uh some some dope some dope artists that we partnered with davey shout out to davies karma three's in stores well ain't no stores but that's like that's a crazy album pick that up um yeah so mass appeal we just we've grown every day and this is uh this is a beautiful thing to have this record after being on sony uh def jam uh i you know worked with in the scope dr dre for the firm album working with all these different labels and now to have my own that's where we're supposed to be now though you still credit steve stout a lot too i heard you shout them out on the album when you shout it out like davies and your other partners what's your relationship with stop um it's it's incredible you know i've known him for decades and you know he's he's a great he's a great dude he keeps me on my toes i say that he's he's he's one of the few people that's you know keeps me on my toes and and it pushes me and even though we don't work together he's it's still like it's still like we do it's like beyond work did you ever feel awake i'm sorry how do you like the restaurant business with the sweet chicks that you've been opening how much fun is that for you is that something you always envisioned yourself doing um yes yes i love food and um i mean the world's in tough times right now but overall uh there's now little sweet [ __ ] too so um i love it it's about seven of them in the world there's one in mets stadium there's one in uh london there's supposed to be another one before covert hit there's one in my neighborhood in queens where i grew up there's like two in brooklyn there's one in manhattan um it's it's expanding you know um this is a beautiful thing shout out to john seymour who who created the whole brand he's a genius yeah i was gonna ask you about you know when when you and hope had y'all think back in the day how did that put a strain on your relationship with stout when style started working with hulk it was it was it was a odd time for everybody you know it was i didn't mind that much because i wasn't hanging out with stout that much at the time so when it happened i backed up from stout just to you know saying what's going on here but we still had our talks we still had our conversations and i still liked that he was getting out there and expanding his his whole vision and you know working with jay you know they together did great things together and it made me proud of him that um he could work with all these different artists he started doing the advertisement thing and i'm learning from that i'm like yo you know you guys are uh crushing it out there and i'm gonna crush it my way you know on the album you um i don't remember the song i listened to the album so many times where there's a line where you talk about michael jordan and lebron james and how they both give back and one does it quietly now when i first heard it i was like that's kind of like you you do a lot of stuff necessarily very quiet but not like a lot of people don't necessarily see you doing it was that that line for yes sir that's the cure right i might no that's ten points yeah yes sir it's a lot of people do you know they think and they just don't want it out there like that so a big michael jordan fed big lebron james fan uh respect those guys so have you ever gotten to a point now when you thought your legacy was in jeopardy i'm sure somewhere somewhere i did um but then i didn't spend too much time on just thinking about rap you know you got i had life had life to live so i'm like so be it whichever way is gonna go i did my best so i can't drive myself crazy you know let me get to these pampers and drive this kid to school and live life you know oh so this was later on this was like after stillmatic and all that yeah hell yeah oh wow okay i thought it would have been before nah charlotte the first time i thought about that was after my first album i'm like yo now where do i am i gonna continue going and am i gonna um mess up the sophomore jinx if your second album was gonna be garbage they should say that back then a lot of people don't make it past their second albums back then so i was concerned more than in the beginning and then later on it was like okay i'm getting older how am i gonna bow out gracefully i'm gonna leave this thing alone these kids are now doing these great things let me but then that thing in you that just that fan in you that just keeps burning you know what i mean you're like oh i got to do a record i got to do a record you know what i mean so listen what about what about your acting job in belly did you ever look at that and be like you know what man they gonna use this against me because you bought in blue bins you got louie rankin on blue bins you know what i'm saying you included the scene from belly classic movie by the way you say what classic movie life's just moving i said yo belly shout out to yo uh louis rinkins rest in peace louis rankin um rest in peace louie rankin um he was he was wow wow dude man that dude um how do you feel about your acting job in belly is the question guys but you didn't do much more acting after that though but you know what if height williams would get me between scenes you're like yo dog you got to pick it up man yo dawg man they they not feeling you dog you got to pick it up and i'm like i'm trying that's the way i smile that's the way i'm trying he's like yo man i don't know man you know like you if you don't pick it up he was home he was army and i was mad i was like he ain't bothering nobody else you know i'm saying he's just on me and i was just like damn so i was thinking about that while i was doing it but i could i just had to be me i just had to do it my way um very nonchalant moments like when you walk back i got shot i got shot i never thought this would happen [Laughter] like yo let's just go to africa t let's just go [Laughter] dog smooth man like billy d man i was trying to get my billy d swag going man you know what did you want to do more movies for real after that though or a little bit a little bit i like how height put together these all the artists to be actors so i knew going into the movie game you're going to be reacting factors and um i don't i don't know if i was cut out for that i tried i did some i did some auditions i did all of that back then i had an agent that was pushing me to do all kinds of crazy auditions um for movies that i probably would that i probably would have turned down if i got the part and but i i wanted to have that experience to see what that's like and i i really didn't see that for me you are so laid back i gotta ask do you ever like do you have a bad temper when you are getting an argument when you're in a relationship are you the type of person that says things that you regret later or do you just not say nothing and leave he pulled the gun on me man's move he wasn't aggressive when he pulled the gun on me in a relationship relax his questions [Laughter] um relationships i lose them what's the argument like with knives i don't argue and that's how i lose a relationship you don't fight for it i don't argue i don't i don't i don't believe in it i feel like we can have conversations agree to disagree but it should be we're talking to get to a solution or just to agree to not agree and just move on but i'm not going to argue and that cost me some real some real things i thought had potential what does that mean you just like never call them back again and that's it they don't call me back because they think i don't care or that's what i heard before or i must be with somebody else if i'm not if i'm not spending that much time with them but then there's people i met who understand me you know it's all about meeting somebody that understands you likes you for who you are wants you to be who you are not be in competition with you not think that you know they gotta impress you all the time and stuff you know just keep it smooth you know you know i do a lot of therapy i go to therapy a lot and you got that line on um total wars when you say we need each other with bad tempers we defeat each other that that sounds like some some some i've sat down with the therapist talk you know you ever sat down with the therapist one time um as soon shortest lady one time and she she she recognized me and was speaking and and she handed me a card and she gave me a free call sensation what's it called cause now you did not need a free consultation i just want to put that out there no but she said just to show me that to get into it and see if i like it or not if she was nice enough to say the first one would be free just to see if i liked it and she thought i would and she was writing i did like it but i never went back um but i would recommend it um for most well some of the smartest people i know um have therapists has your daughter destiny brought any guys home to meet you yet like this is my boyfriend and yeah yeah she yeah she did did you put a gun on him like you did envy you didn't pull a gun on him stop it that was a long time ago long long time ago no no the brother's a good brother cool cool and everything i must say that has to be intimidating for destiny like you got to meet my dad yeah but i think she knows you know if they if they're good that we're going to be good i mean amazing you know the other day it was uh it was you quavo swiss travis scott and puff in malibu and malibu is that is that a video y'all working on something you got hanging y'all chilling when i see your brothers together it seems like that's some big money talk oh no puff for like inviting me over man some come you know pop come celebrate the album mm-hmm come have a you know come down to malibu did he have a mask on no there's no mass though this was a great meeting of cool people i was really happy to be around um travis crevo puffs swiss beats just great energy busta rhymes pulled up later it was just a great time it felt like it was a a tasting it was a weed tasting we had a smooth weed tasting we had the menus so it was a beautiful thing man you know it makes me want to smoke again right now and i got nice before i talk to you guys and you know that that really got my weekend going going to see those guys enjoying uh conversation right didn't you try to deny you back in the day like like like back right early early early early yeah puff um he tried to um already had the deal so he wanted to manage me and um so i brought him to meet tommy mottola for the first time and um we talked about it but puff was scary dude to the industry people at the time you know really he was a little wild for them and uh it was perfect for me but for them they didn't want to work with them so i had to had to choose a different manager you know it was like that um uh you know a lot of people were scared of that man you know i was with him when you went to uh try to shop his deal for bad boy with andre herrera rest in peace and he was ahead of his time that's all it was about doing a versus battle you know he did who did he who did he say you should do it with know who he said oh so uh yeah swiss who you got brandy or monica for the next one i love them both that's going to be that's going to be the biggest battle of the year um the biggest verses of the year because it's a celebration of life two incredible artists you know they got the boy is mine and i did the life is probably the recipe and have it um that's gonna be big i got them both well uh speaking of because you said the word big weren't you a big supposed to do a record together but something happened like the verses didn't get recorded i got too high um i was in the studio and big was rolling up some of that chocolate for brooklyn and he didn't warn me you know it was just i was zonked out yo there's pictures of that session out there i think yeah we're supposed to do a couple of songs but i was gonna remix some stuff for ready to die you know what records they were one of them the idea was give me the loop wow and you got too high that you don't give me the loot why not come back the next day nah still high still i'm not messing with big and stuffed man that's smoke we were smokers man still still are still am and um i don't know things happened i lived far out in long island at the time you know what i'm saying is coming to the city was like a mission you know it was hard to get me to move man i was just where i was at have you ever given up smoking for any period of time for you for a year in like 99. and how was that what was the change it was boring it was good at first it was good um it was good to clear up clear up everything you know but then it got kind of boring but what are those moments like man when you reflect on the stories like you told in car 85 and you just recognize how far you come what about it what are those moments like like when you just reflect on those stories and you just sit back like and you you recognize how far you've come you know could i tell you i didn't i didn't think nobody was going to get cardiff or understand me but people that didn't even grow up in new york or didn't grow up in queens understand the story um so before it came out i was like oh man i messed up why did i put this song here uh i didn't have to do this and the response i got from it i was like oh thank god it just takes me back to a great place you know i got chapters you know i love what i've been doing the last year the year before um but um the 80s is my favorite probably decade but the 90s was crazy for me so i can go through either decade and tell stories that make me feel great and that was that that's what i did just one little story here and there well congrats because the album kings disease has been very well received people love it i think it's a great album i think it's a great balance of what we call the old nods but nas today too and i think that's important to have that balance thank you man we work hard um hit boy you're a genius um nothing but love i've been i've been like living in this beautiful world of it it's all right for the for right now life is all right right now for a second you know just for me i needed that moment to like escape from what we're dealing with out here and we're a sense of happiness enjoyment and some perspective and that it means everything we don't want to wait another 10 years for you to come back on the breakfast club we already got another surprise about to drop anyway soon right what what is the surprise because i is it is it a nas album executive produced by rick ross is it a jay-z naz king of new york album what is it gotta wait 10 years to find out not 10 years not 10 years so i'll go back to this show all right i do want to ask you about the unauthorized biography of rod kim because i know i heard why kim wasn't happy about that we had him on breakfast club he said he wasn't too happy about that that record yeah yeah i wouldn't i probably wouldn't be either raquel's like the hardest rapper in the world man she somebody making a song about you is weird you know that's what i told knight wonder he made um uh god's stepson and i was like i was so honored but i was like he had his face it was like him on the cover like me and i was like this is weird but it's art appreciate in art and i i love knife wonder and i love rakim obviously and yeah yo i talked to rakim last year and but we talked after that he thought that i mentioned his kids on the song or something like that and which i didn't i didn't mention the kids um song was all love uh but you know we cool but i talked to him last year and he was telling me about um make him clap to this um um how he made that song he's in my projects in queensbridge and molly mars putting the beat together and i'm kind of paraphrasing the story and then he goes outside and molly's like you're okay make sure he's i'm just going to get some air go to the store he said he went outside he said he had his thing he was ready he was easy he said he saw everything going on and he's already him he's already got the vibe happening but he just saw he just watched he had his beer or whatever he had back up into the apartment in queensbridge and i came in the door i said it before i never let the mic so you know those records were made in the projects so you can hear it the the the the magic of the record is incredible but it comes from the project my neighborhood which made me you know so proud um just the history i just like to learn about it and i like to talk about it so the book song was me kind of being a historian about one of my top ever words is it clear everybody everybody says not oz is the evolution of of rakim that's honor i mean i'm honored for them to say me and his name even close to each other you know what i'm saying have you seen what they're doing to queens i was uh out in queensbridge a week ago and the whole queen's bridge it looks nothing like mixtape days it's like gentrified i'm surprised they're not going to knock it down and try to build condos there because it's right on the water but like the whole queens bridge has changed have you seen it or no oh hell yeah hell yeah um i'm out there sometimes that it's at this dope restaurant lounge called zoe's all the time ran by my man jeff and um it's a beautiful neighborhood um it's changing things are changing you know um but you know more importantly than anything i would love to see the violence come to an end i would love to see a serious cease fire in queens bridge all we got is us i got a couple more questions for you out of your whole discography what's your favorite body of work this one you get a little a little emotional yeah i get that away sometimes it's sad to see brothers shooting each other especially in the hood that you grew up you ever thought about going back and trying to to do that cease fire there maybe you would have go there because y'all from the from from the bridge and try yes yes yes you make that happen you got the power you got the power to make that happen they listen to you yeah yeah yeah for sure for sure we'll see what we could do much love to the whole neighborhood quiz ready story or what's up everybody love you all nah we appreciate you man um you do yeah i think you know you you you one of these artists like one of these few walking memorials that we got around here like one of them like a statue coming up that's very rare air you know what i mean i'm happy to be in that class with those great with my great classmates world and one thing that you've always done well man like you know even on the new album you talk about i had to google it i plan to google you say the stupidest part of africa invented algebra and you you've always put those gems in your song so so what's the value of putting the medicine in the candy that's my that's my final question i mean it's our duty you know we've been misplaced miseducated it's only right that each one teach one we're supposed to do what we're supposed to do and show love and um it's it's very important we do that is it very important like my brother jungle has his own label street dreams records um that's building that's growing that's um that's what this is all about we gotta grow we gotta build each other up with the truth and know who we really are you know what i'm saying all right well thank you again brother and uh we don't wanna you wanna see you more often on this breakfast club nah miss love love i'm coming back [Music] foreign foreign

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Length: 57min 54sec (3474 seconds)

Published: Tue Aug 25 2020