Mystery of the Gobekli Tepe "Handbags"

this is part 2 of my consideration of the video what's inside the Sumerian bag by ancient architects if you haven't seen part 1 I recommend you go back and watch it before proceeding with this video so you're not kind of lost I'll leave a link for you below in his video ancient architects draws attention to the buckets used by the OP Khalu the semi-divine guardians of Assyrian myth who are depicted on several Assyrian palace reliefs and cylinder seals he then tries to make a case that the mythology concerning these buckets originated in Australia where they existed not as buckets but as bags yeah he does this by comparing works of art now in my previous video was released last week ancient architects and I have had some discussion and it turns out he has since revised his views on the matter but I still think there's some value in going over his video because it illustrates some common mistakes that independent researchers make when examining ancient art so please stick around myths of ancient history is aimed at dispelling common misconceptions about the past if you're interested in ancient history lost civilizations and secrets from antiquity I encourage you to subscribe to the channel because you will get lots of it and if you find this particular video valuable please hit the like button and comment below with your favorite takeaway and feel free to ask any clarification questions that you may have so now about this argument that these bags in different cultures are somehow related to one another before we get into it I just want to take a moment to discuss the concept of archaeological culture what that is is an assemblage of artifacts that are united by a number of recurring characteristics you have various material remains ceramics implements ornaments burials ruins art that constantly recurred together archeologists note this and identify it as a specific culture these cultures are often named after the type site which is the first archaeological site that this particular culture was found oftentimes when two different archaeological cultures are geographically close and chronologically close we can see certain characteristics from one culture the earlier one carry over to another culture the later one that's because people are always borrowing ideas from their predecessors or their neighbors but now what if two cultures who are geographically distant chronologically distant or both happen to have similar characteristics in their material remains does that mean one of those cultures borrowed from the other culture well it could be the further away it is in time and space the less likely of course because ancient peoples didn't get around as easily as we do but it is possible so how would we establish this with relative certainty well we would have to have a sufficient number of distinct and unique characteristics that would link those two cultures together and show how unlikely it would have been for the two cultures to have risen separately and without any communication between the two all right so let's say we found two cultures on the opposite sides of the world and they were thousands of years apart chronologically and let's say archaeologists found a pot in one of those cultures that was of similar shape to a pot found in the other culture would that be enough do you think to show that the two cultures must have been connected in some way no I think you would agree not it's entirely possible that these two cultures came up with these pots on their own right there needs to be more than that okay so let's say both pots had a circle painted on them how about now would you say that makes the difference hmm probably not right two cultures can come up with the idea of a circle on their own one culture doesn't need to show the other one how to draw a circle but if we get to a more complex and unique figure then maybe we're onto something there are other things to consider our other two pots made with the same material and with the same process is the same kind of paint used to paint the imagery do the images if of special significance mean the same thing archaeologists generally prefer to see more than one similar characteristic before being certain that two cultures are linked especially if they existed far apart they would like to see a bunch of uniting and distinct characteristics to tilt the scale in favor of the unlikely scenario that people of the one culture somehow got on the other side of the world and against the more likely scenario that the two cultures just happen to have some similar styles of art with that in mind let's look at how ancient architects makes his case that there's a link between the Mesopotamian water bucket and the Australian daily bag the oldest depiction of the banks in ancient arts is found in Arnhem Land in northern Australia and is thought to be approximately fifteen thousand years old there's an interesting use of the passive voice here is thought to be fifteen thousand years old thought by whom ancient architects doesn't say but a quick check of the information on Angelica Hill where this work of artist reveals that archeologists date this art to 8,000 years ago not 15,000 years ago if ancient architects is going to disagree with the scholarly assessment he needs to provide evidence that his date of 7,000 years earlier is more accurate perhaps he's done this elsewhere but by wording it this way ancient architects is misleading the public to think that he's simply repeating what archeologists have determined the imaging question found in jhalak hill is of the goddess in Ghana known as the earth-mother according to an old creation myth the in Ghana carried babies in her bags as she traveled far and wide she scattered her babies giving rise to different linguistic groups and tribes there is also another depiction of the goddess giving birth the goddess in Ghana appears in many Australian Aboriginal myths but there are hundreds of variations across the tribes yes in one she accompanies the Earth Mother the two goddesses are not the same and carries a bag full of babies or new spirits to populate the earth but I have to ask is the story of a goddess carrying her babies in bags similar to the story of the OP Khalu carrying water in buckets to cultivate date-palms do you think they match up well I'm not seeing the correlation do you think they look the same by the time of ancient Mesopotamia the backs although prominence probably held a different meaning so if I understand him he's saying that over time the bags turned into buckets they became a different shape were made of different material were reduced in number and meant something different if they're not the same why are we connecting them again water is the life force of the world so though the ancient Australian bags contain the seed of life the Sumerian book it's held the life force water ah so that's the connection the babies in the Australian bags and the water in the Mesopotamian buckets are both linked in some way too therefore he argues the Mesopotamian culture must be derived from the Australian one hmm the thing is life like enlightenment which we talked about the last video is such a general concept it could be connected with almost anything we could find art from any culture at any time and concoct a link with the idea of life I mean what culture isn't fascinated by the birth of humans and animals the sprouting of seeds the blooming of flowers they all are it isn't unique it isn't distinctive in order to establish that one culture comes from another we need more concrete and specific connections than just the general idea that they have something to do with life in ancient Babylonia the term used to describe the Anunnaki was Sir si R which when translated means big serpent interestingly the most important deity to the ancient Aborigines of Australia was the Rainbow Serpent is this another coincidence also the ancient Anunnaki God Enki was believed to have belonged to the so called Brotherhood of the snake okay so he suggests another link he says the Sumerian word sir which means big serpent was used for the Anunnaki and that the Anunnaki God Enki belonged to the Brotherhood of the snake then he points out that the rainbow serpent goddess of Australia was the most important deity of the Aborigines and she was a snake the snake concept links the two you should know that the Sumerian word for snake is not sir it's moosh now we used to believe it was pronounced sir back in the old days but we have since discovered that that was wrong and it's pronounced moosh moosh is the word for snake you also should know that there are no texts from ancient Sumer or Babylonia or Assyria that say that the god Enki belonged to a brotherhood of the snake none Anke who was occasionally represented a fish or a goat was never represented as a snake of any sort this is not to say that the Sumerians didn't have snake deities they did Nanga sita was one for example but their chief god was not represented as a serpent nor were all the gods thought to be serpents as ancient architects implies regardless since the Assyrian images are of the OP Khalu semi divine figures and not the Anunnaki full gods ancient architects cannot rightly use the Anunnaki in his comparison the Australian goddess in garna when an animal form is depicted as a snake the Rainbow Serpent but the app kalo are part fish or bird and not snake but it's possible that he's not referring to the buckets anymore maybe he's just trying to show a link any link between Australia and Mesopotamia by pointing out snake deities in both cultures unfortunately deities associated with animals whether snakes or any other animals are common throughout the world if you had snakes in your land chances are you'd have snake deities there were real snakes in Mesopotamia and there were real snakes in Australia which means that they each were liable to make snake gods without having to learn those gods from elsewhere so again he still has provided nothing distinct or unique enough to link Australia with Mesopotamia he hasn't demonstrated that Mesopotamia couldn't have come up with snake gods on its own that it somehow needed Australia to teach it about snake gods one of the main features of the aboriginal rock art are numerous thin elongated figures known as minis or Mimi's as well as countless depictions of animals Mimi's are said to have taught the ancient Aborigines how to hunt to paint to perform rituals and ceremonies they brought knowledge there were wise spiritual teachers take a look at these ancient Sumerian figures and compare them to the Australian Mimi's separated by more than ten thousand years of history we are seeing the same imagery in iconology are we here you suggest another link this one again having no connection to the buckets or bags he shows Sumerian figures next to Australian minis to demonstrate similarity by the way he cut out one of the figures from the picture because it didn't match up as well now let me just ask you as the viewer are you so struck by the sameness of these images that you come to the unavoidable conclusion that the people who drew the Australian minis must have influenced the Sumerians who made the figurines here's a better question do you think these Sumerian figures could not have been made without knowledge of the Australian minis or do you think it is possible that they could have been made without knowledge of the minis if you do think it's quite possible then ancient architects argument is unconvincing now I have a revelation to make this image here that ancient architects is saying represents Mimi's these aren't Mimi's these are called wanjina and they're a different kind of Australian mythical figure these are Mimi's these are wanjina the earliest depiction of the wanjina in Australian Aboriginal art comes during and after the Sumerian period in Mesopotamia in other words these images do not predate the Sumerian period Mimi's according to the Australian Aborigines are fairy-like beings who live in rock crevices and that's why their bodies are so thin and elongated do you think these Sumerian creatures could fit in rock crevices their bodies are nothing like the bodies of the mummies the only similarities that I can see are the big eyes and absence of a mouth that's simply not enough to hang one's hat on everything else about them is different because ancient architects could not find a strong link between the bags of Yin garna and the buckets of the othe kalo he was forced to look for similarities any he could find from other images in Mesopotamia and Australia to establish a connection but even then even when he doesn't restrict himself to the handbag imagery he's still unable to provide us with concrete links between the two cultures maybe his example from North America will be better over in North America the petroglyphs in the COSO rock art district show multiple banks on one rock face and are believed to be more than ten thousand years old and they could well be the same age as the Australian depictions I hate to break this to ancient architects but the petroglyphs to which he refers are probably only a few hundred years old the natives of the region expressed knowledge of the creation of the petroglyphs in recent times and although their descriptions are not scientific they do say the petroglyphs were made even into the 20th century the images of men in cowboy hats and people riding horses and mules seems to confirm this we know that bows and arrows were not used to hunt in this region until after 600 CE II so any images with bows must be from after that date and they're quite a few of them an analysis of the weathering of the rock art has shown that 81 percent of the rock art depicting bighorn sheep shows little or no weathering and guess what the rocks with the bags depicted on it have bighorn sheep on them that means they're probably less than 1500 years old it also means most of the petroglyphs are less than 1500 years old this doesn't mean they all are just that the majority are other scientific dating methods keishon ratio and weather rind organics and varnished micro laminations dating have shown that a substantial number of the petroglyphs were made just in the past 700 years some researchers believe that in this image the backs carry the seed of life like in Australia there are also petroglyphs of strange human-like figures and a huge amount of animals could this be a mere coincidence just so you know when ancient architect says some researchers believe the bags carry the seed of life he is not referring to archaeologists or anthropologists who interpret these as medicine bags that the natives have used for a long time while the contents of these bags can certainly help save lives the natives do not speak of these bags containing quote the seed of life unquote and will certainly not in the sense that is spoken of an Australian myth what about the fact that there are stream human-like figures that's not distinct enough because every culture draws strange human-like figures and they also all have animals the real question would be are all the animals local you see if ancient architects could show that the American petroglyphs depicted some animals indigenous to Australia and not North America then he would have something there but he can't all the animals depicted on the rocks are indigenous to the area although ancient architects doesn't discuss it he does show another Native American work of art this one older than the COSO rock art levente monument 19 from the Olmec culture of Mesoamerica I'm a little surprised ancient architects didn't go into it because it has a snake got on it as well as the handbag superficially it looks similar to the images in Assyria could it be a water bucket even if so much like pots a bucket with a handle is generic enough that it need not have been a technology imported from another culture but archaeologists have interpreted the object in the figures right hand to be a copal bag which was used to carry hardened tree sap to be burned as incense in ceremonies there's a long tradition of using copal in this way in Mesoamerica so again quite different from water buckets if we then look at the ancient megalithic sites of Quebec et pay which is around 12,000 years old three bags appear on pillar 43 the so-called vor'cha stone which made the news in 2017 as experts said then that stone told the story of a comet impact on earth let's take a closer look at the so called bags on pillar 43 do you notice how the thing that looks like a handle is not attached on the right side but further in why is that a portion of the bag sticks out on the right side and it's not just a messy depiction because all three are constructed that way so it's deliberate none of the other images we've looked at has this form notice also that there isn't anyone holding these objects there's nothing to indicate the size these objects would be in real life do you know what the archeologists who excavated the site suggest might be the buildings of gobekli tepe with arched or corbelled roofs flanked by an animal image which may identify each building I think that's a reasonable interpretation don't you there's room for debate on this but there's nothing to suggest that these images must be handbags or water buckets and the position of what would be the handle argues against it also found a Quebec attempt a is a carving of the earth goddess giving birth and of course there are countless animal carvings and reliefs across the site's there's nothing unusual about images of animals or a female figure giving birth in religious art that would suggest that they are not of indigenous origin especially when the animals are found locally when you study ancient civilizations you learn that every new culture has taken aspects from previous cultures and use them to create a new each religion or belief system has the same core esoteric meaning but different outward appearance so that it can appeal to the local people a people who never get to learn the truth behind the religion but just get a watered-down version of the teachings every religion or culture has done this I don't know anyone who disagrees with the claim that every new culture incorporates aspects of previous cultures it's an observable phenomenon in fact archaeologists and historians generally believe that there were very few pristine civilizations in the world by pristine civilizations I mean urban societies that arose indigenously without merely copying features of an existing urban society currently we hold that there were six pristine civilizations which arose in the following areas southern Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers the Nile River Valley in Egypt Peru the Indus River Valley the Yellow River Valley in China and in Mesoamerica now this does not mean that there was no influence of one of these upon another most certainly Mesopotamian Egypt influence one another and Mesopotamian India influence one another and Peru in mesoamerica influence one another but these influences occurred after these civilizations had already formed they arose indigenously it's possible that as more information becomes available we will need to tweak this list but ancient architects would have you believe that these urban societies did not arise indigenously but all of them every single one are to be traced back to aboriginal culture in Australia so far he has not established a definite correlation much less causation so his conclusion that all religions can be derived from a single source is unfounded what we see is the same religion the same culture propagated down through the generations with taking on different forms there has always been one true religion that has continued under many forms and kept hidden from the masses the same teachings and secret initiations hidden in the plain sites of religion if ancient architects had argued that certain religious teachings had gotten lost or forgotten as the centuries passed I consider that a reasonable supposition you probably would too but instead he ventures into conspiracy theory territory claiming that the true meaning of religion is not lost but has been kept secret from the public by religious elites has he interviewed religious leaders to bring this to light I sincerely doubt that of course you might say well their silence on the matter just proves that they're trying to keep it secret it's a nun falsifiable claim you can't prove me wrong therefore I'm right this is an enormous subject but the point is although religion has evolved religious leaders and the leaders of civilization have always ensured the ancient wisdom is kept within an each religious holy book has a number of layers the deepest of which can only be read by an in isand view and that is the point of this video the evolution of the belief system of humanity I think the reason why ancient architects and others who hold this view might find this idea appealing is that it provides some hope that the meaning of life the universe and I everything is out there somewhere and that maybe someday it will be revealed it's a comforting thought but I don't want to psychoanalyze them so you'll have to ask them why they prefer to believe this all I can say is that in his video ancient architects did not convincingly demonstrate to us that the young garna handbags of Australia have anything to do with the water buckets of Assyria the medicine bags and copal bags of the Native Americans or what maybe the Korbel roof buildings of Gobekli Tepe you

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Length: 24min 10sec (1450 seconds)

Published: Mon Aug 19 2019