My Biggest 3D Printing Fail.

hello I'm Mikey and let me tell you about this weird thing that happened while I was 3D printing but some of you may have seen my last video where I actually did like an unboxing slash review of the LG Saturn 3. now since I got that machine I'd be wanted to test it out as soon as I I've opened the machine I've looked at it I think it's quite cool now I'm doing some like rigorous testing to really pull it through its Paces so I can give a proper review later and I've also had this resin sat on the shelf that I've not had a chance to use yet but I've been quite bemused by it so Sun loot actually sent me some of their toughness resin now this one is solid gray color suddenly or a company that make a 3D printing accessories obviously they make resin I know them from making pla for fdm and stuff like that that's what I use all the time I've not used their resin before and I wanted to try it out because obviously a year ago I compared a bunch of different resins against each other and I wanted to try this one out compared to my previous favorite which is the elegu ABS like resin now what I will say about this resin is the bottles are quite cool I quite like how they're like quite upright compared to like a traditional round bottle but the bottle doesn't really matter it's what's inside that counts so I did some exposure tests to like dial my settings for this resin it's pretty it's a pretty nice resin it's pretty straightforward so then I went off and printed a bunch of models from today's sponsor dragon's Trappers Lodge now the color of the resin is actually a really nice light gray compared to I I just really like this color I think it looks like cast resin almost or like cast plastic it's a really really really nice color and everything printed like perfectly like I can't complain anything about the print but along with the resin Sun loot actually sent me some resin detergent which is designed for like cleaning the models afterwards instead of isopropyl alcohol or water if using water washable resin and I've not used this stuff before so I was excited to try it out I was going to use the Sunny's resin Sun loose cleaner and compare it to elegue abs like and then washed like an isopropyl alcohol but that's when something weird happened and I'll tell you exactly what happened right after we hear a little bit more about this week's sponsor dragon's Trappers Lodge the dragon Trappers Lodge create 3D printable models for your War Games RPGs and board games so you can print paint and play right at home there are multiple tiers but by joining the Trapper tier you'll see the following benefits every single month 30 plus theme models characters or Trappers monsters creatures and Dragons 5th edition stat blocks for all your monsters and Dragons as well as a 30 discount code for their my mini factory store or 50 if you're part of their merchant tier now if wargaming is more your bank then the soldier tier comes with a fully playable Army every single month 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and uh following the link below by you clicking the link you directly support me and we can help this company out they look make amazing stuff so hopefully you can go and take a look if it interests you but otherwise what happened so as I said the models printed perfectly great they come out beautifully but it was just this that kind of threw me off like I put this into my Ultrasonic Cleaner because I thought you'd just clean it like you would alcohol but then it says on the bottle soaking time more than 5 min minutes and then rinse time two minutes I just realize it says Let It soak for the fact then take it out then rinse with water oh I don't know if I like that I don't know if I like Let It soak and then rinse that's how I put an ultrasonic that seems really odd soaking the model in the resin detergent for more than five minutes and take it out then rinse the model with water until the surface is not greasy and sticky two minutes or more now I don't know about you but putting non-water washable models in water is usually a bad idea because it's not designed to be taking water before it's cured it's it's very porous it'll absorb all the water and make it very brittle and just damage the resin as a whole but also when you're someone like me who is very conscious about putting contaminated water out into the environment and having to take it somewhere I use isopropyl alcohol because it evaporates in like minutes and you don't have to take it anyway you cure it you evaporate it into the atmosphere and then that's it you know I kind of like who just says pour it on and clean it with the brush which isn't isn't the same as washing it with water afterwards so I might just I think I'm just going to turn the cleaner on for a few minutes and then let them like dry because I don't want to like wash you on the wall because I don't know what I won't know what to do with the water afterwards the videos the ball says one thing but then the videos I just run literally they pour the cleaner onto the model and brush it so I'm just gonna ultrasonic it I think that's probably better than just brushing it so after I watch this video with it saying that you could just brush it underneath I I just ultrasonic to the models and I thought I thought that I'd be okay and I was wrong I started printing the models in ABS light because obviously the whole point of this video was to do comparison look at the details look at how cool these models are and look at how nice the resins are comparatively and this one's toughness one's abs like so I was expecting ABS light to be quite rubbery quite bendy but that's what you want for Miniatures and then suddenly toughness to be the hardest thing you've ever seen um but no that didn't happen okay so I've let those ultrasonic for about five minutes and they are looking pretty clean the supports are absolutely gorgeous on these because this literally just fell off whilst it was cleaning uh so I'm gonna get these out leave them to dry and then I will peel them as normal I let them dry for a little bit and then I took the supports off again Dragon Trappers Lodge uh the the supports are just like butter like that's the word they've told me to use but they are they literally fall away for most of the models but I noticed that they were drying very fast like the the residue of the detergent stayed on the model for quite a while so I left them overnight and then I cured them in the morning they were really sticky after I got them out of the Cure station I killed them in my Mercury cure station as normal and then and then this like robot the support still come on but like yeah it's like rubber this one broke whilst I was like picking it up this stuff broke but like I mean if you want rubber models this is amazing this one was like the worst Defender funny but like the entire base like the entire base is bended yeah it's just soft the dragon like whilst beautiful the dragon's not too bad to be fair it's a painter put together because it's so bendy so it moves while trying to glue it but like the dragon is quite because it's all quite thick it's not so bad it's just like this sword is like like there's nothing there's no structural Integrity to it that stuff it's quite fun um but yeah I don't know I don't know this is supposed to be tough resin I didn't put him on the base because it was just so soft but like there's just it's like it's like where you can like chew it don't chew it but like you know it's just he finally flies flap Away Little Soldier or the the mermaid oh what's happened it's like the only thing I can compare this to is like when you uh try and strip cast resin and it goes badly you know and it ends up being wobbly because you've damaged the resin so the resin is damaged I think he's still detergent so whilst I'm recording this video I'm actually reprinting all of the inventory again and I'm gonna wash them and cure them as normal but this is toughness resin and he just like it's quite funny again the only thing I can compare it to is it's even bendier than Soraya tenacious you know that's like that's like how how bendy is but this is supposed to be hard resin so so I'm going to reprint those I'm going to get them washed and cured as normal using isopropyl alcohol and uh then we'll do some proper comparisons compared to the ABS light which thankfully it all printed perfectly so they've just finished printing again and and they do look perfect so um wish me luck trying to get these to kill properly so I watched them in isopropyl alcohol for 10 minutes like I would any other print and I can already tell the difference as I'm removing the supports all the features just don't feel rubbery at all so I let them dry and then put them in my cure station as normal and just side by side we've got the the new prints on the left which I watched in ice Purple alcohol and on the right I've got the ones washed in the resin detergent and you the the difference is night and day obviously so the models still have some give in them and obviously like it's toughness resin so I was expecting it to be a lot harder I wasn't expecting it to have so much gift but a little bit of give in Miniatures especially in this format is actually what you want because you're gonna get knocks and bumps on these Minis and you don't want them to snap and be really brittle so they actually have a little bit of give but as you can see the the one on the left actually has a bit of give and the one on the right is just jelly it's just a mess so this video was supposed to be like it started out as like a comparison between abs like resin and suddenly High toughness resin we just turned into a video where I can't recommend resin detergent so I don't I don't think a product that is designed to clean 3D prints buy a 3D printing company should the damage your 3D prints if you leave it in for too long or put it in Ultrasonic Cleaner or what like if I leave a model in isopropyl alcohol for too long it's fine but if I leave a model in this for too long it's probably gonna go gummy again and I guess this could be a little reminder that if a company sends me a product and it isn't up to scratch and it doesn't work as intended I do just try and tell you and I try not to hide that fact it's a shame because suddenly Sun loose sent me the resin they sent me the resin detergent for free to have a look at and sadly I can't recommend the resin detergent but if we compare the sun loo High toughness resin two elegant abs like res in my previous favorite now normally I would mix tenacious but I haven't done that with this this resin I've just tested it as is from the bottle as you can see the details are nion perfect on both Prince that this is obviously a lot to to do with the the dragon drop as large Minis that we've printed today so these are from their latest bundle which I've talked about already but the Miniatures look amazing but the sun loo resin is actually a little bit more forgiving than the the ABS like like abs like has had some delamination on one of the hats on the Miniatures but also when we Bend this staff all the way down the suddenly resin actually withstands and the ABS like snaps it's not often that you're going to be snapping stats or bending staffs that far but it's that's just something to take into consideration I'm going to be very interested to try it out and and test it further but you know here we are here we are not testing the residents against each other we're just saying don't use resin detergent just use isopropyl alcohol as normal now these these Miniatures obviously gorgeous and sadly I'm gonna have to go off and print another Dragon but the dragon in ABS like is actually one of the coolest models I've ever printed it is actually gorgeous it is so highly detailed it was so easy to print the supports came off like a dream and I can't even see where the supports were and it is just a really really nice miniature Again by the dragon Trappers large that all credit goes to them it is a lovely mini but yeah that's basically the video so don't use resident detergent I I don't know what its purpose is why would you have a product that damages 3D prints when it's supposed to clean them maybe I've used it wrong maybe it's not their fault maybe I've used a product wrong maybe I should have watched it in water afterwards but that just seemed like a bad idea but I'd love to get your thoughts down in the comments and uh thank you so much for watching I do really appreciate it and thank you once again to the dragon Trappers Lodge for sponsoring this video without sponsors the these videos wouldn't be possible and they literally help keep my lights on just like my members which I want to say massive thinking to all of my members if you want to support me you want to get my 3D printing resin settings then you could become a member today from as little as two pounds a month but otherwise thank you so much for watching and I want to go print some more uh dragon droppers Lodge so thank you and bye bye for now bye thank you

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Length: 13min 28sec (808 seconds)

Published: Wed Jul 26 2023