- The way the sun is kept in the sky. Are you from a thousand years B.C.? What is wrong with you? The way the sun's kept in the sky. That's why this is like a mix
between toddler-esque ideas and grandpa-esque technology usage. It's because this is a fucking caveman who was frozen in the ice and thawed out to explain the evidence for God. Hello, lovely people. Welcome back to my channel. Welcome if you are new. Today, we are finally going
to get evidence for God. Now, I've been burned before. Because our last time, we were
promised evidence for God. It was by this Christian channel who not only is just ridiculous and has the most terrible arguments, but apparently plagiarizes
literally everything. So, this time we're
getting our information from a Muslim channel. It's a very small channel. So if you happen to find it out there, do not go and send it hate. This is the description of the channel. "We look at issues impacting
the Muslim community in the modern era. It seeks to inform the misinformed." I guess that's us. "It seeks to clarify matters in the media in a way that is informative. It does this in a clear, easy
to understand and lucid way," which is interesting
because that description is so vague that it's not really
clear what they do at all. "Your views are most welcome as it helps improve our services." I wonder if that includes my views. I guess we'll find out. Just before we dive into today's video, I would like to take a
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three extra months free. Good job. So I was actually going
to look at a video. This was recommended to me, by the way. So thank you for that. I was going to look at a
video called "God Deniers," which is about atheists, I guess. And then I realized that
that was part of a series and that the first video in
that series was "God Evidence." And I thought we probably
better start at the top, right? If we're gonna look at this, we should start at the evidence, because then we can become convinced, we'll convert to Islam, and then we can watch "God Deniers" and laugh at all those kooky atheists. It's cool, I got hazelnut in my coffee. I got gay frog earrings. Thanks, Willow. Willow got these for me. I'm ready to deal with some nonsense. There's no audio in this. It's just music, sounds
like religious music in the background, which I assume is probably copyrighted anyway. So we're just gonna watch it on mute. You're not missing anything, don't worry. Here we go. "The God Evidence: Opening Our Eyes to the Ultimate Existence." This is like when my
university lecturers used to do slideshows. Do you ever, (Emma laughs) And then God appears in the eye. I'm pointing at the screen
as if you are here with me. That's fucking funny, I'm sorry. Let's start by first identifying
the usual blind spot. People have contradictory
and confused ideas of God. That's because they're not Muslim, right? My specific religion,
my specific denomination of my religion is the one that's correct. You are just confused
because you believe one of the other thousands
of religions, you fool. Like it really is amazing to me that the human brain can convince itself that it's right and
everyone else is wrong. It's pretty out there. "When their ideas don't
work, they reject God. Their blind spot is in
their preconceived..." Okay, great, get to the point. "They end up arguing against their own manufactured
ideas of God." Okay. "One wrong idea of God is," okay, so this is what God is not. "That God should show
himself like an image in the clouds or in the mountains." Well, yeah, that seems obvious, right? If God wanted everyone to believe, why wouldn't he just show himself? "A God confined to the limitations of the eyes is no God." Well, it doesn't have to be. I think you are misunderstanding
your own statements now. Just because you can see
something doesn't mean it's confined to the
limitations of your eyes. Like I can see this tiny ducky, but it also has a texture
and a weight and a smell. Well, not really. You're a very clean little ducky. What were we talking about? Okay. Oh, that was it. That's all the explanation
we get for that. So that was stupid. "God should always answer our prayers so that we get whatever we want. God must serve me. But a God who serves our
demands is like a slave-god." Yes, whereas God is actually
more like a slave master. We are all here to glorify and serve him. It's much better that way around. The thing is, that idea, again, that idea doesn't come from atheists, that comes from believers. Look at all of the religious TV shows. Look at all of the sermons. Documentaries about people
who believe in angels. I've seen this a million times in a million different places, and it's all believers who are like, "I was saved because I prayed to God for this thing to happen." Okay, I can only speak
from my perspective. I don't think that God should
always answer our prayers so we get whatever we want. I think that if God exists,
and he's all powerful and all loving, he
should answer the prayers of the suffering. I think that if God is all
powerful and all loving, people shouldn't be suffering
terminal illnesses every day. Children shouldn't be dying of AIDS in vast numbers every single day. That's what I think. "Better if God performs regular miracles so that scientists witness
extraordinary happenings that they cannot refute. Such a God is like a magician." Right, but what's the problem? He is a magician. He created the universe
from nothing, apparently. He created man from dirt or whatever. What their problem is is
that we want something that is identifiable. If there was demonstrable
evidence for God, I would consider it. And they're saying, "Well, that would make God like a magician." What are you talking about? I bet that's the end of that as well. I bet they don't say, no, yeah, that's the end of it. It doesn't say why it wouldn't work if God is like a magician. This is really stupid so far. "It would work if God was
to stop all the suffering in the world." Thank you. "Such a God would be Superman and suited to the Hollywood industry." (Emma laughs) This person, or this, you know, maybe it's a group of people. This definitely feels
like a much older person who doesn't really know
how to use the internet, making something on PowerPoint. But atheists say, "God
should stop the suffering in the world if he exists." These people's explanation for why that can't be the case is that, "Well, sounds more like Superman." That is not an explanation. That is not a reason why God wouldn't stop all the suffering in the world. "Well, that sounds more
like a Hollywood movie." Well, if Hollywood movies can come up with a better version of God than apparently you or your Quran can, then like that's an
issue with your religion. "The best thing would be if God makes my football team win the cup." That's exactly the same as
the prayer thing earlier. We've done this one. "That would make God too
into a football fanatic. Here are famous people
whose preconceived ideas of God did not work for them." Here's a list of skeptics that
we give the big thumbs up. Charlie Chaplin, "By simple common sense, I don't believe in God." Right on, Charlie. "His idea of God is defeated
by his own common sense." (Emma laughs) I can't decide if this was
made by a child or a grandpa. It's got the visual quality of a very aging lecturer
trying to like being forced to use modern technology,
but the logic of a toddler. (Emma laughs) Yeah, Charlie Chaplin's problem is that he uses common sense, okay. Epicurus, "Is God willing to
prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. If he's able, but not
willing, he is malevolent. If he is both able and willing,
then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" Yeah. What is the explanation
for Epicurus gonna be? "He wants God to be a cleaner
who cleans up human mess." Well, he created human mess though. Is that it? That's it. (Emma laughs) But that's not the point
of what Epicure said. He said he can't be
omnipotent if he's willing to prevent evil but he's not able to. If he is omnipotent, if
he is able to prevent evil but is not willing, then he's malevolent and we shouldn't worship him. That's the point. And then if he's not able or willing, then why would we call him God? This channel is way more stupid than I could possibly
have been prepared for. Steven Hawking, my boy. "Before we understood science, we thought God made it all. Now we know how it was made,
and there is no need for God." This is a wonderful, it's almost like it was
made by an interloper. Like that's the third option. So it's like aging lecturer
type, really young kid, or it's an undercover
atheist who's using this and like making it look really shit and giving really shit explanations so that people watching it will go, "Hold on, that doesn't make sense. Atheism is starting to
sound really appealing." And they're using like
really prominent atheists with good arguments. That could be it. This could be undercover atheists. That would be so cool. Go on, then. Debunk Steven Hawking. "He wants God to be seated
in the gaps in his theories." What? That's not it at all. That's not remotely what he said. He's saying that we used to believe in God because we didn't understand
how things were made. Like we didn't understand
how the sun rose, so we came up with stories of gods to fill in that information. Now we know how those things happen. We don't need God to fill in the gaps. You're the one who's filling
the gaps in with God. Where's this evidence? (Emma laughs) Richard Dawkins, "If God
existed, then who created him?" "He wants a manufactured
god like an idol." Fair enough, cross off Richard Dawkins. He's gone down a dark old man path. Still wrote some really
fabulous books though, even though he's a dickhead now. Isn't that so often the case? "All failed ideas of God are defeated by the people who manufacture them. This includes ideas manufactured under the guise of religion," a.k.a., every religion and
denomination other than mine. My specific branch of Islam,
that's the one that is a hundred percent accurate and true. Everyone else, totally wrong. Without the music I'll admit, there is a lot of awkward pauses. "Here are fake religious ideas of God." When do we get the evidence? "God has divided people
into high and low castes." "God has chosen a nation
to be above others." "God was born." "God died." "God stole butter." (intense rock music) So that's a Hindu story
about Krishna stealing bits and bobs and just being
sort of a naughty child. In some of them, it looks
like he stole the butter for his friends to feed them. I guess this is just this channel's way of saying "Christianity bad, Hinduism bad, everything," like we said before, "except for my specific belief is bad." "God wants to burn widows
and witches." Dear. "Punishes people by making them disabled." "Puts babies in hell." "God is against evolution
and natural processes." "Which of these fake concepts have you heard from religions?" "God is behind voodoo, ghosts, human sacrifices, and magic spells." "God is discovered in meditation, mindfulness, music, and drugs." "God is against people of
other religions and ideas." "God is against wealth." God is against wealth is
one I've definitely heard. "God is against the rich." Ooh, snuck that in there twice. So this is somebody who believes
they deserve to be rich. Good to know. In summary, here we go, finally. "People need to question their own manufactured ideas of God." It's a bit rude and
dismissive and close-minded and also really, what's the
word I'm trying to look for? Like they kind of can't see the wood for the trees, you know? They're able to criticize
other people's views without being able to criticize their own. Yeah, I think it's just really kind of insensitive and stupid to call all other religions
manufactured personal ideas of God and then have your own, because your own views
are just as manufactured. Like those views are manufactured, but they're still based on religious texts and religious teachings,
just like yours are. "The open mindedness to reject
manufactured ideas of gods." "Rejection of false gods." "Once all false ideas of God are rejected, is it time to," I hope so. I've been waiting this whole time. Go on, then. Give me the evidence. I was promised evidence. Got my finger over the dislike button. because I was promised evidence. "If God does exist, then he must be unique
in his existence." Why? "God cannot be like an
object or like energy or a supernatural spirit or
any other created thing." Created thing like a supernatural spirit? "God must have the ultimate existence that cannot be compared
to created existences." But why? You can't just say God must and then not explain or defend that. I could say, "Well, God
must be a pink unicorn." And then fade out with music to a beautiful picture of a unicorn. It doesn't make it true. You can't just say "God must," and then expect us to believe it. Okay, God must be unique. Must have the ultimate existence. That doesn't really mean anything as a phrase, but whatever. I vaguely get the point
you're going for, sure. "The second step is to accept that to prove the Ultimate Existence, God, we cannot use proofs that are used to prove created existences. We cannot use formulas and microscopes, magic or voodoo, shaped or objects, feelings, dreams, or
hypnosis we cannot use." So basically to accept my idea of God, we have to accept that there is absolutely no way to prove it. Then what the fuck is this video? What's the point of it? What's the point of anything? How can anyone be a believer
if to believe in it is to believe that we literally can't use any rational method to prove it? How are you supposed to believe in that? "To seek the proof of God,
we must be able to see whether there is power behind creation." What does that mean? That is an impressive word salad. What does it mean, and
how does it prove God? "Consider the painting analogy. How does a painting know
that the artist exists?" A painting doesn't know anything
because it's not sentient. "If a painting says, 'I
want to see the artist,' then should the artist
enter the painting?" What the fuck is this? "If the artist enters the painting, it would turn into a painting, and no longer be the artist. The painting can look at the brush strokes and accept that a hand created them." What a shitty analogy. "We can try to see the
hand behind the creation." But if God is completely
unique, and we can't detect God via any of our methods in the world, then we can't by definition,
we can't see the brush strokes. Your first two points don't
go together. They can't. Am I crazy, or is this incredibly stupid? There's a fly in here now. "The third step is to see if you can find the following five divine powers of God behind the natural systems
of created things." "Intelligent power." No
evidence of intelligent power. "Systematic power." I
don't know what that means. I genuinely don't know what that means. "Loving power." No, because
if God created everything, then God created diseases
and shit, you know? Either God created flesh eating bacteria and diseases and you
know, created our bodies with the capacity to fuck
up and develop cancers and things, or God knowing everything knew that that was entirely possible with what he had created
and did nothing to stop it. Either way, no loving power
behind the system of creation. So I guess we've just
proven there's no God, according to this channel. "Artistic power." That's a
completely subjective term. Artistic power, that's something that is entirely subjective
to the human experience, which is basically something you said we can't use to identify or judge God because that's a human creation and God is outside of and above all that. Everything they've said in their evidence for God contradicts the
next thing they say. "Mighty power." The Mighty
Morphin Power Rangers? Is that what we're talking about now? "Is divine intelligence evident behind the creative system?" No. "Does creation show a
sensible design?" No. I'll leave a link to this website. This is 10 design flaws in the human body. I'll just go over a couple of them. An unsound spine. "Our spines are a mess. It's a wonder we can even
walk," says Bruce Latimer, director for the Center for Human Origins at Case Western Reserve
University in Cleveland. "When our ancestors walked on all fours, their spines arched
like a bow to withstand the weight of the organ suspended below. Then we stood up and the spine was forced to become a column. To allow for bipedalism, it curved forward at the lower back. To keep the head in balance, the upper spine curved in
the opposite direction. This change put tremendous pressure on the lower vertebrae, sticking about 80% of adults with lower back pain." Inflexible knee, too narrow
pelvis, exposed testicles. That's a biggie, you've gotta agree. Crowded teeth, meandering
arteries, a backward retina. That's a biggie. This is just the human body, by the way. "In the African locust, nerve
cells start in the abdomen, but connect to the wing." "The existence of unnecessary wings in flightless birds, e.g. ostriches." "Sturdy, but heavy bones suited for nonflight occurring
in animals like bats. Or, on the converse, unstable,
light, hollow bones suited for flight occurring
in birds like penguins and ostriches, which cannot fly." "Albatrosses," this is the
bottom of a list on Wikipedia. "Albatrosses cannot take
off on land properly." Poor albatrosses! That's
the entry they get. The point being that no, there's plenty examples of, you know, poor design, so to speak, in humans, other animals in the world. There's some incredible beautiful design. And because we have little human brains that are suited to our narrow experiences and we have a whole history and culture of growing up with
religion and attributing those things to God, it's very easy to see the beauty of a
leaf and the intricacy and how incredibly it
works with photosynthesis and to attribute that to God. It doesn't take much
looking into those things to find out that, "Okay,
there's also things that aren't very convenient that have developed evolutionarily for one reason or
another," blah, blah, blah. Intelligence, no, there's no evidence for intelligence behind the system. Now they've got a picture of a leaf. It's like I'm psychic. See, if human fingerprints
were an intelligent design, there wouldn't be some people born without fingerprints, right? "System Everywhere: Is
a divine system evident behind every phenomena?" I'd love to see them prove this. "Does creation show a guiding hand in the way natural systems are? How a plant grows systematically, how we go up in stages." How we go up in stages. Did they mean grow up? What does that mean,
how we go up in stages? Like in an elevator? I can't parse that. "How rocks erode in stages, how volcanoes erupt based on stages." So the evidence for God is that things happen one after another. What? I cannot understand this one. I do not understand this one. I don't understand remotely
how it is evidence for God. I don't get it. If I'm being stupid, please explain it to me down below because I don't fucking get it. I think I've heard this
kind of argument before that everything, you
know, has these systems that all work together well or whatever, but that doesn't even seem
to be what they're saying. How rocks erode in stages? How the fuck would that
be evidence for God and not just evidence for weather? Yeah, plants grow in stages. They don't just magically
go from a seed to a plant. That just proves that plants grow. God, I'm losing my mind a little bit. Partly through this, okay. "The Third Divine Power:
Divine Love." Definitely not. I'm gonna show you plenty of evidence that this is not the case. "Is Divine Love evident
behind every creative system?" "Does creation show that
a caring power is looking after us?" No. "A fresh start for each day." What does that mean? That's, again, that's like a poetic, subjective, just human phrase. God didn't create a fresh
start for us each day. What are you talking about? Are they like loosely
talking about the sun? Because there's also plenty of places on the planet where you don't get that day and night cycle in the same way. "The way we develop through
knowledge and experiences." How the fuck is that
evidence for a loving God? "The blessings of the
sun, wind, and water." Again, half of his evidence, sorry, half of their evidence
seems to just be weather. (Emma laughs) "The plentiful resources." Bitch, they're running out. All of these things are
evidence that weather exists, that we are lucky to live on a planet that is so incredible and
contains so much life. I mean, unfortunately
we're killing a lot of it, but we do have a beautiful planet that we should look after. And the human nature is curious. We want to learn. We want to discover things. That says nothing about
a system or a creator. That says that human beings, that we have a drive to learn new things. That is a wonderful thing. Why ruin it by attributing
it to a God with no reason? There's no link between
those things and God. That's just a statement
on humanity in the world. "New day, new chances" in a heart. Oh, well, I'm convinced. God must be real. You can't just say "New
births, therefore God." That's evidence of the
human reproductive system. "New resources." Buddy, the resources on this planet are finite. Okay, they're running out. We're using them up. What new resources? "New ideas and knowledge." No, that's just the human experience. "Artistry." Go on, then. I can't see how this is gonna be different from like the second one. "Is Divine Artistry evident?" "Does creation show that an artistic power in behind the," that must be an is. "An artistic power is behind
the system of creation. The various hues and shapes, the changing colors in the sky, the reflections, the
rainbows, the color of eyes, the peacock, et cetera." Male peacocks, peacock is the male. The female is peahen, whatever. Peacocks having beautiful
plumage is evidence for God. So their main evidence
for the artistry of God is the existence of color. Objects can absorb some wavelengths and then they reflect others. And the ones that they
reflect are the ones that we can see as color. What is the connection
between that and God? What was the next thing? "Changing colors in the sky." Changing colors in the sky are caused by, I'm gonna get this wrong, and SciManDan's gonna be upset with me. The changing colors in the sky, I believe, is caused by particles in the atmosphere that scatter, I think. The point is that again, the answer is just weather. It's just weather. It's evolution in one way or another. Oh my God, I just said "anover". I don't do that. I never do that. I blame this video. I'm losing brain cells. One way or another,
it's natural phenomena, natural systems, evolution. For all of these things, they do not in any way demonstrate some kind of godly artistry. And once again, I'd like to refer you back to your opening point
on the evidence for God, which was that we cannot identify God by human created things, by things that exist in the universe because God is a unique ultimate being. I have a feeling a lot of people who say "ultimate" don't know what the word actually means. Whatever, so how can we
possibly identify God via artistry when that is a
completely human invention? Completely contradictory,
this whole thing is completely contradictory start to finish. It's either incredibly stupid, it just says things without
providing any explanation, or it contradicts itself. "Might." Here we go. The fifth divine power is might. "Is divine might evident
behind every system?" "Creation show that a mighty power, the way magma is kept inside the earth, the way the sun is kept in the sky." Are you from fucking,
a thousand years B.C.? What is wrong with you? The way the sun's kept in the sky? Oh my God. That's why this is like a mix
between toddler-esque ideas and grandpa-esque technology usage. It's because this is a fucking caveman who was frozen in the ice and thawed out to explain the evidence for God. Fuck me. He was thawed out. Someone gave him a Quran and he was like, "Oh my God, I understand everything now." The way the sun is kept in the sky. That will keep me going for ages. I'll be thinking about that tonight. That is very funny. "The way huge mountains are pegged." I'm not gonna touch that. I'm not going near that. "The way nuclear energy
is kept inside the atom." This is basically them describing things that they think of as strong, stuff that is big and violent and strong, like magma and volcanoes and stuff that is massive and mighty, yeah. But then couldn't you just show like stuff that is dainty and pretty, like show the leaf again,
or a little froggy, a tiny little adorable duck on a pond just merrily snacking on some seed and be like, "Well, there's
clearly no might behind this." This is so fucking stupid. And again, it's completely,
completely reliant on the subjective human experience, which is supposed to be a way
that cannot lead you to God. "Remember the painting analogy." I'm trying to forget it. This video is not long
enough that we need a recap. "If we see the five powers
behind the system of creation, it means the hand of
God is behind creation." Okay, first of all, no, it doesn't. It shouldn't, because those are all based on completely subjective things as you have demonstrated very clearly. We don't see these powers. We don't see these things. The things that you describe are naturally evolving phenomena, and we understand a lot of the history of how the earth came to be. We don't need God to fill
in those gaps anymore. "God is not an object or a created entity. God is the Ultimate
Existence like no other. All manufactured ideas of
God always get rejected by the person who creates them." That doesn't make sense. Always get rejected by the
person who creates them? Well then how are there
believers all over the world? "Their manufactured ideas of God." Your idea of God is
completely manufactured. It's all based on
subjective human experience, like fucking artistry and might. Yeah. Oh, I see. Intelligent power, systematic
power, loving power, artistic power, magnificent power, Islam. (Emma laughs) That's what it's all about, an acronym. That's what it was all for. Are you satisfied? (Emma laughs) I don't know why that's
tickled me so much. That is really funny. That really got me. I don't know, that just
really fucking got me. (Emma laughs) It's gonna really slowly
reveal the word Islam, as if we didn't get it. (Emma laughs) I mean, it took me until the
end to get it, so fair play. That explains why it's so stupid. Because they're just fitting stuff into the acronym for
Islam. That's amazing. Can you imagine? I almost feel pity, and this is gonna sound
really horrible as well. I almost feel pity for the sort of person that makes that thinking, "This is gonna turn some
people into believers." Not only are they
expecting it to turn people into believers of God, but they're expecting it to turn people into believers of Islam specifically just because the evidence that they use is an acronym for Islam. Here's the thing. I have heard some very
intelligent, well thought out, philosophical logical arguments for the existence of a deity, right? There are arguments for theism that I completely understand, I get. A lot of the time it's a difference in just definition or philosophy. A lot of the sort of root things that theists kind of go to I would prefer based on my experience to consider a science that
we don't yet understand, or might never understand, whatever. I don't understand how people
then take that as like, "Well, to me it makes
the most logical sense that there is a God, something we would consider a God." I don't understand how you go from that to "Therefore, Islam," or
"Therefore, Christianity." I don't get it. I don't get it, because
that is a huge fucking leap that requires a lot of
really specific beliefs, a lot of which can be debunked. And then you get into the whole, you know, the whole Bible, Quran mess of what is true and what is not. Then a lot of that is like,
it's not dogma in Islam, is it? What's it called? I'm blanking. I'm blanking, my Islam isn't so good. I've got a big fuck off Quran now. It's quite hard to find a good one that has an English translation. It turns out a lot harder
than it is to get a Bible. I've got a big Quran and
a manual of Islam now that I'm dipping into,
but it's taken me a while because it's a lot of stuff. But yeah, it's just a huge
leap to me to go from, "Okay, maybe it makes sense
that God created the universe," and then, "Therefore, all
of these specific events in this book and all of these teachings and stories by various human
beings, these are all true and the things they've
said come from God." Like how do you, I don't get it. I don't get it. Thank you so much for watching. I hope you enjoyed this video. It was a lot sillier than I expected, but some of it wound up being
really funny as a result. So I'm kind of happy anyway. At least I had a good time. Unfortunately, that's another one down that did not convince me that God exists. That's a down for us. Do check out some of my other videos if you enjoyed this one. Do subscribe if you haven't already. We have so much more fun stuff coming on. Coming on? Coming up. I'm like hot and delirious and confused. Do give this video a like, leave your thoughts down below. Always helps the YouTube algorithm, even if you just say
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