Mother Teresa: good or evil? Debate (part 2)

he's bite sure there are troubling things about Mother Teresa up there I don't think so and I find it really amusing that what she's being accused of here is being a Catholic you know shot Cora she's against abortion she's against contraception she believes in the transformative power of motion and she spent money on religious activities well you know what newsflash she was a Catholic nun and I let the people that were that died in under the care of the Sisters of Charity I thought she's not exactly like the people that died under the care of the Sisters of Charity weren't compelled to be there they weren't locked down there was no compulsion to go and die in those walls they chose to be here now currently controversial in the news is that Albania from where she originally came has requested the return of her body of her relics and the Indian government have said absolutely not we are so proud of Mother Teresa we love her she is a citizen of Indian in India and she is resting at peace in her own country it is it is not it is not for me as as a practicing although very unworthy Catholic to say whether or not Mother Teresa should be can lies it's not a popularity vote it's not subject to this is not the X Factor Holy X the church will investigate Macross fighter their investigative miracles see if the cures were real and declare whether or not this wonderful lady is already in heaven so wishes that mothers are murderers with it but was that that strong language to say that the biggest threat to the peace of the world that she said this when she mutters your murder phrase the peace yeah well yeah I think that if you I am obviously a Catholic I am absolutely pro-life from the moment of conception I make no bones about it that is what we believe as I forget about that abortion audible donation for abortion and contraception is quite simply condemnation of the Catholic religion mother Teresa was a featured as a Catholic lore icon could I just bring some perspective to this I believe you must understand 1929 Mother Teresa entered India as a missionary unfortunately Indians have not had a very good relationship with the Catholic Church it started off obviously with the Portuguese Inquisition in Goa and you know the priestly caste being targeted and of course a saint st. Saviour you probably had Francis Xavier who has also been called a saint well how'd you feel about the deathbed conversions if I well the deathbed conversions first I'd like to say that that in our faith in the Hindu faith we believe in unconditional service to others it does not mean that you hand them a load already in one hand do it and then a Bible in the other I think that's wrong to try and convert people who already have a faith I think that's an insult and understand is very wonderful people in this world of other faiths and without faith be whether they deserve sainthood or not is decided by the Catholic Church that's the problem we shouldn't really be you know not talking ill of the dead let's not talk too much ill about Mother Teresa because she will be judged by her Karma she will be judged by karma Benjamin how do you feel about this this elevation of suffering that the beauty of suffering because it takes you nearer to Jesus and of being poor I think this is a terrible thing you never hear people who are poor and suffering saying it's great and wonderful no you never hear I've been to Domitian in Calcutta and I thought it was really appalling and I think the bottom line is we going back to expenses here millions of pounds have been given to that organization when you go to that place that should be a modern hospital exactly with needles for everybody that's this we are close but you know actually took money from dictators who took money from some of the poorest people in the world in Haiti absolutely perfect for the people in Haiti it was all given to the Vatican and I think that's wrong I think you know she's a Catholic that's true to the calf that respond to that her mission was not to build hospitals and schools and have you know top-notch modern technology shed the money she had the money could at least give utterance that was not her mission her mission was original almost to work with the dying and to go out to people on the streets not for them to come to hurt her to go out to them you never do undulate Qaeda's finished usually it was they were minute hours sometimes minutes from dying it was not about that's not it doesn't know you I could work with them and then medical engines F&I I heard an example once of a young boy who could have been cured but a simple operation but Mother Teresa kept him in her place and wouldn't allow him to go down the road and have a simple operation that would have saved his life and he died there do you know the reason why why why well the reason why is because the former editor of The Lancet dr. Robin Falls actually visited there and his actual word was haphazard that I agree entirely with Benjamin that if those people who should taken in had been given the chance they could have been saved but rather than just what about me let me introduce somebody else into kind of said it's very important to introduce this miracles I also sorry what what century in a diamond if you don't believe in slaying the dragon but I think most of us look it look it sort of twig that that's a little bit well you're a secular person you don't believe in such much else to you and anybody who has I mean who believes in God just raw the tooth fairy they start talking about belief in God but not true our future impede us but that doesn't detract from the fact that we shouldn't be so bogged down by Catholic saints who are these Catholic saints have you heard pass the night do you know he called Jews dogs do you know that both Papa's online brought back public hanging have you heard of a stepanych our bishops definitions are grim who actually mastermind the killing of Jews communists and gypsies you believe the ozone equal our beatified by the ship well let's show let's so know this but no such perhaps no man you prayed with Mother Teresa yeah yeah and tell us she cured you didn't you believe you were cured or by the love of God I believe through the love of God through Mother Teresa she helped me enormous ly with the condition that I suffered which might suffer from schizophrenia and bipolar which I still have the bipolar and the schizophrenia have repealed of three visits to mother I had visited at many times over the years received many letters but the first visit two years before she died actually I met her in San Gregorio st. Gregory's in Rome and in the June sunshine we sat together then there was a spiritual spell there was a trance fixation which an egg bird cries well I just sat there she sat opposite me yeah the wrinkles in her face disappeared she smiled I smiled that was it was like hypnosis doctors a clinical even her felt it's really wrong my whole body I couldn't speak which is a rarity I'm a chatterbox like my granddaughter and I couldn't speak and talk to you you're his doctor his GP you've helped him and you too you said telling me earlier on this was extraordinary I don't agree with many of the things those side was saying but there is no time because I worked in the NHS for 44 years in my early days I used to send persons for heart disease and we wait for one year for an appointment by that time they are dead the early days because the National Health was will be progressing by that time cancer patients I used to refer them they have to wait on what we saw what was my second hazel resources you can see they were talking about resources iris on swinging there was the center here the release I am a practicing Catholic yes I'm proud to be a practicing Catholic Norman Eames couldn't be handled by many doctors many psychiatrists from the difficulty handling plus a very complex mental illness to escape he went to Australia he he was hastily when he returned and he he had string of doctors who removed him he came to my palace as the love of God sixteen years I endured the persecution from normal and then I said you have to spiritualize your illness it was because eventually ominous what was it it was the love of God what Majesty very special you believe in this don't you let me speak up for it but I don't like takes my way as very circle the lady's complaint is with Catholicism um religion religion in general the complaint that she has against accepted miracle she probably has against belief in God which she probably believes is equivalent to belief in the tooth fairy it is not for me it is for a tribunal of the church which will include doctors and scientists to declare if this miracle is real that's your but that is the way that it is not the church that confers sainthood only God confers sainted all the church Giles is investigate so it's ten knowing whether some rigid I should take is questioning that he has a god yeah and to become a Swami there is a process are we having a discussion about how to become a Swami but anyway even if it's exactly my exactly learn you know why do you think your God is more important than his exactly and I think if that's a doctor tragedy that's a very valid point indeed I think this

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Length: 9min 35sec (575 seconds)

Published: Mon Oct 19 2009