Mob James on Paperwork Claims, Ch****ston White, Crying Over God Forgiving Him (Full Interview)

all right here we go the mighty return of mob james to vlad tv chase mcdonald on vlad that's right all the time that's right it's been over a year yeah it's been over a year been a minute yep and not because we don't rock with one another but just life it's just gotten in the way and in terms of scheduling and everything else like that i've been having a lot going on so yeah you know i ain't been able to really that's what it is but but we always rock with you all the time you know what i'm saying that's what it is well let's talk about the elephant in the room first let's go the whole paperwork situation okay so you tell me what happened what's going on and where it's leading well you pretty much didn't know what happened well i mean you know [ __ ] been saying they're saying it i got tired of them you know listening and hearing the [ __ ] do what you got to do show me the paper show me this show me that so why i don't even want to mention these dudes name but you know certain people individuals got to start talking that [ __ ] and saying certain things so me it's like i'm i'm fed up with it so here come this other dude saying he got yada yada paper on me okay the [ __ ] that he come up with it don't have my name it don't have mob james just my james dad james mcdonald none of that [ __ ] so after it all come out i'm i'm i'm more pissed off i'm more on the retaliating [ __ ] because it's one thing to to attack me but then now you're attacking james mcdonald you know i ain't talk to you cats mind you i left the hood after my brother was killed and then you know all the way up until now even with my podcast i don't speak on these cats so this paper oh yeah he did it and then he said he was saying uh it kind of pissed me off but then i said i got too much to lose you know what i'm saying vlad to put myself out there for something i know that's not me you know what i'm saying at that time of 2000 he's saying i did him like this i ain't been to prison since 1988. i had a case in 92 which i set in jail till it was over and done and uh i got an accessory after the fact on that one my little homie went to jail for the case and i got accessory after the fact on on that so other than that i haven't well let me interrupt you real quick because this whole accessory after the fact has sort of been in the news a lot recently so explain to everyone what accessory after the fact means and what it meant in your particular case the way they put it is basically you're not the actual person that committed that crime but you're there so is it if you don't turn somebody in on that crime then it's it's basically you was there but you won the one that did it but you're gonna get some time you're gonna get something so you're required by law to make a citizen's arrest or or to to call the police if you see a crime you can't just go the other way and say no that's really no we were we were together so that's where okay so if you're just a if you're just a regular pedestrian walking down the street and you see something and you don't say nothing you can't get charged for that but if you're with the person ah and uh and i go home and we wake up and i don't call the police and commit i mean uh call in on that case on that what happened don't turn that person in it's basically accessory after the fact we know you was there with him but you didn't you didn't turn him in so uh we did our little time on that and after that i haven't seen a jail i i don't i didn't have a reason you know i got brothers my mothers my sisters my whole family in compton so i know i wouldn't play a game like that everything i've ever did my sister right out there the dog [ __ ] tell you i never been bailed out of jail my mother and father never bailed me out of jail my other two brothers they have put up the house the whole nine so it was all [ __ ] and then you know with oh such-and-such said or or wanted to do you like this or coming at you behind gangster chronicles you know this internet [ __ ] has got out of hand and you know i really didn't even want to bother with it so i went on bond first to speak on this [ __ ] and i'm i'm i couldn't give my will after wagner came in on it it's just a whole bunch of holland [ __ ] and you can't talk why everybody else want to talk so i basically hung up from that because i'm not going to do no holland match none of that other [ __ ] and i just i just stood back you know people don't know me all these people coming and all these people on facebook talking this [ __ ] that this [ __ ] they don't know me they never hung with me they never kicked it with me this dude whack never seen him a day in my life never dealt with this dude never would you know what i'm saying never would so i just i just went into doing me kicking back uh i didn't want to do no shows i didn't i didn't you know i was pretty much mad at the world you know what i'm saying but there's a guy who actually did a a couple of interviews i think was fg or something and he's the one that claims that that you told on him and he has paperwork on you and everything else like that i mean other people have chimed in but this seems to be like the main guy well even even with him you know he said what he said but or he felt that it had to be mob james because i felt a certain kind of way about my brother being killed and when i when i pretty much explained to these [ __ ] my brother didn't get killed until 2002. you say i [ __ ] i [ __ ] with the police on you in 2000. you know what i'm saying so what reason do i have to deal with you like that you know what i'm saying i'm i'm living my best life i'm so i think at that time you know uh i had bagged away from death row you know what i'm saying and if i'd have gotten in any trouble death row would have been my best slick and i would have got paid for it you know what i'm saying so you know at that time they had the fbi on all of these dudes on everybody that was with death row you know what i'm saying and um everybody talk was talking to the fbi at the time you know what i'm saying but i took my sister with me so we didn't have no no problems no issues no nothing so you know it all boils down to this people gonna think what they want to think people gonna say what the [ __ ] they want to say it don't matter to me well i mean from what i understand that that fg interview was with alex alonso on his youtube channel and alex alonso is essentially a disgruntled ex-employee of you know the gangster chronicles so obviously there's a motive for this type of thing alex has gone out of the way to talk a bunch of [ __ ] about me as well uh i don't know what the chip on this dude's shoulder is i i could really care less about who this is well when you look at it and the way these dudes is acting and the way they carry themselves today everybody is [ __ ] right anyway so when you start accusing they don't understand the concept of something or really what it is um even with with alex i had no problems with that dude i had i've i've tried to get him back to gangster chronicles i've tried everything i could do to get him but he didn't want to come back because he didn't want to work with norm so when i seen him doing an interview like man this this your loyalty to me just decided a friend and i wouldn't have expected him so it just made me sit back and say you can't trust nobody you know this dude was at my mom's funeral i didn't know him from jack [ __ ] he showed up to the funeral he took pictures you know i thought he was real cool next time i saw him he woken up we about to do the gangster chronicle and then he became one of us you know what i'm saying when that brother had issues i'm like i'm ready whatever you know what i'm saying so it just made me look at people different like just pretty much go back to the old me [ __ ] [ __ ] these cats just back up and stay away from them i mean the unfortunate part about you know gaining a certain amount of fame and getting followers and views and everything else like that is that you become a target for other news outlets to basically get views off of you like like for example with me for two days my name was trending because there was a fake article in uh ar abs you know arab was was facing a serious case at the time and there was a fake article saying that the judge in ar abs case personally thanks vlad for helping to convict him and it was like from a from a news outlet no one had ever heard of there's just a random picture of a white judge you know i mean reggie told me best all you got to do is paint the picture all you got to do is put it out there these kids that's watching this internet [ __ ] today they gonna jump on it yeah and and pretty much that's what it is so i'm not gonna allow myself to get angry and mad and do all of this other [ __ ] and take myself out of character for people that don't know me it don't make no sense so let the let those cats can say what they want to say you know what i'm saying yeah they saw me in the room and and felt the need to be that person then be that person yeah i mean listen i haven't called the police been called the fans been called to snitch nothing we've ever done has shown up in anyone's case we've never gotten anyone convicted but still vlad is the police right it's still a thing you know so i i can relate to what you're going through right but at the end of the day it's really just whatever and it really doesn't matter uh you know i mean actual real cooperators and informants you know are out there living their life and are youtube stars you know like sammy the bull gets millions of views uh you know lots of people uh takashi six nine whatever so it really is almost like it kind of doesn't really matter either way but people will try to paint whatever picture they want to paint about you and at the end of the day you can't respond to everything they call it trolling trolling that's exactly what it is that's what they do and if you respond now they have something else now they have more content by you responding right after after bomb like i said after bomb first vlad i i pretty much said okay and you know a couple of good people good friends of mine came and got at me and just checked move the whoop and it and it taught me something so i had to sit back and like you're right you know what i'm saying my gangster today is taking care of my grandson you know what i'm saying my games to the day is making sure my nieces is good my gang's staying out there hurting cats like me my gangster ain't putting a red rag in my back pocket and showing everybody i'm tough that ain't gangsta mike my grandson makes me gangster keep me on my gangster real i love it well you mentioned the whole accessory after the fact uh the big thing that's in the news right now is uh there's a rapper out of florida named queso and he's um being charged with the murder and his father is being charged with an accessory after the fact he knew all about it you know the story is allegedly is that the murder happened he went to his dad his dad did whatever his dad did and now they're both being charged his dad is actually facing 30 years because he has a bunch of priors so now his dad is actually testifying against the son he got a lie it's crazy right and the dad did a whole post saying like if it was my father and he was facing a bunch of prison time i'll tell him i'll tell the police that he has nothing to do with it because i guess the son isn't saying anything right so so now the father is being forced to defend himself so now you basically they announced that the father is going to be testifying against the son and it's really ugly you know and like i remember when i had busy he was like oh yeah the authorities just laughing at everybody like haha we got this guy to testify against his own son and and so forth okay so dead ain't no like [ __ ] no k so dead in duval like [ __ ] like you led him wrong too you gotta be you led him wrong you know we gotta start blaming ourselves as parents we land these [ __ ] churros most of the time yeah i know like you know like bro like you make these people do they [ __ ] job you don't bend over and get [ __ ] by these people you make these people do their job that's why they get hurt you don't do their job for them against your son it doesn't go like that i don't give a damn if you murder somebody it's not for it it's not to be caught for murdering somebody's to get away it's not to be caught no matter how bad it's now it's not for you them to be caught it's for you to get away and by telling your ass is not going to get away okay so his dad made a statement about this publicly i heard his statement i want to say i won't write him in jail so whoever watching this send me that [ __ ] address man i will write him and talk to him i want to make them people do their job they're laughing at you over beer and shots right now we're making that [ __ ] turn on his own seed he's turning on his own boy then they're gonna kill his ass when he go backstage and we let him out you know what we're gonna do we're gonna make him testify let his ass out after and give him credit for time serve and let chase oh boy smoke his ass two birds and one stone um now you yourself we just talked about you got an accessory uh after the fact right right charge um you know what do you think of this particular situation i mean see everybody got to look at it it goes both ways you know what i'm saying why did the daddy all of a sudden say i'll testify against him that big 3-0 daddy don't want to do 30 years right the average [ __ ] that get get get big time throw it in they face the first thing they do is accept that 15 years opposed to the 30 to life they're going to take the 15. see this is just part of the system to tell you we ain't got the money to keep playing with you but if you if you want to sit here and play this [ __ ] we're going to give you 35. so they take the [ __ ] 15. why you think all these cats going to the feds and taking the time i'd rather do 15 then y'all give me life in federal prison because i won't come home so they don't give a [ __ ] who told on them they just gonna take the time so they can get out this is all this [ __ ] is so here we have the father which is out of line because this your son you ride with that one till the wheels fall off that's part of family you you do family like that you do anybody like that okay so so let's just so let's uh let's look at this do you have any sons yes i got two sons two sons your son comes over shows up at your house sit down and just kill somebody what do you do i have to support my son my son gonna explain what happened whether you're right or wrong i don't have a choice but to support my son okay i go all the way to get my son to [ __ ] up out of california you know what i'm saying so he don't get killed now but if he go to jail ain't nothing i can do but support him okay well if he tells you what happened and you say it's very unfortunate but there's nothing i can help you with can you get charged with accessory after the fact or no no no i don't care no so you you don't have to call the police or anything else like that you could say man this is [ __ ] up i wish i could do something his daddy had to be there his daddy knew it it's more true than a story yeah so i don't know nothing about it so but what i'm saying is even if pops was there even if he did come home and tell pops what he did and pops took the murder weapon got rid of it whatever he can he can be charged with accessory okay if they charge you with accessories just because the police told we told you they're gonna give you 30 years for accessory come on man that's [ __ ] you ain't gonna get 30 years for helping your son so whatever that might be you might get five years you might get two years yeah but two years is worth going down for my son i i'll do that two years yeah i mean it's a very unfortunate situation yeah it's i don't think it's something any parent would ever want to deal with and i mean unfortunately in you know in 2022 getting away with a murder is very difficult between cell phones and cameras and triangulation and everyone you know social media and this that and let me tell you the greatest detective force in the world is on social media man because those guys will find everything they'll find a photo from 1902 that you're in they'll tie you connect you with the murderer and so forth here we are we know this yeah here we are on on the internet here we are live explaining in detail to detail about what we do and how we getting down the police is just like us they sitting on the side of that laptop sitting there drinking their coffee listening to these [ __ ] talking about how they gangsta see our days we didn't have that [ __ ] it had to come from mouth to get me locked up it had to come from mouth not not that the goddamn laptop was putting all these dudes in prison and and they and they know it so ain't no crying ain't no misunderstandings you know you cannot run to social media with the [ __ ] and they out here doing it you know i just watched sitting in the car watching soulja boy and charleston white right i was going to ask you about that the whole amazing the whole mason incident when you when you heard about that and apparently it really happened so so the story is is that i guess they're in miami uh charleston was with like i guess his wife or a female or whatever soldier boy and like 10 or 12 people decide to approach him right charleston reached into his woman's purse pulled out some mace and sprayed everyone what was he supposed to do yeah i i agree i don't deal with him but you got 12 men coming at you ready to do great body harm to you so is it gangsta to sit there and get your ass what no no i'm gonna do whatever i can and the crazy part is he had mace not a gun right so just think if he had a gun the situation would have been totally different just think if they would have been able to get him the situation is different soulja boy why would you want to go to jail behind doing something to charleston if charleston hit his head and died soulja boy ain't [ __ ] on the street no more you were in prison forever they got video of y'all killing this [ __ ] so everybody go to prison for one man i don't think so yeah over a man that really just talks on the internet he has no real effect on you he just talks about the dude funny the [ __ ] man when i saw it and he had this pink shirt on i i just couldn't do [ __ ] but laughs but he's telling the truth yeah he's telling the truth yeah i'm i got one eye i'm i'm i'm five five i can't do this man i tell y'all i'm i'ma call the police on you [ __ ] right he's telling you he's saying he's pressing charges too yeah he makes them and then he's pressing charges why touch him so i say this to soulja boy and all his partners y'all don't want to do nothing to that dude on camera ain't nobody ready to go to jail with the time that they're given today yeah you know what i'm saying soldier boys already done some jail time over i think a gun or some bullets or you know a couple years back but he don't want to go and sit in jail money ain't [ __ ] don't mean [ __ ] when you're sitting in prison oh no a soldier boy catches a murderer he's he's going to do a good 30 years and he's not he's not getting a slap on the wrist and what i'm saying is not worth it because all y'all know this dude is doing is talking trying to get his clown on trying to make money just like the rest of these cats on the internet so he picked people to [ __ ] with so if we bite into the [ __ ] here we are listen charleston talks [ __ ] about me and i've interviewed him and paid him so at the end of the day i don't take charleston you know in terms of when i say seriously i mean that like he doesn't hurt my feelings or make me angry or whatever else i understand charleston charleston and we we've had our interviews and they've been good interviews he's done his job i've done my job it is what it is at some point we may circle back with each other we may not who knows i don't know i have no regard you know i know that he said a few things about me after the interview and that's fine it's whatever i don't care it doesn't matter i'm not if i see charleston i'm not going to roll up on him 10 deep you know i may walk up to him by myself or maybe with my one security guy that's what's going to happen with soulja boy y'all hold up let me go highlight this fool you know what i'm saying if if see it take both sides to feel some kind of way oh yeah no he said charleston said man you better talk to me with a bullhorn across the street hey man the dude is funny so i you know i laugh at charleston now but it took my situation with him to to get it the dude don't mean no harm you know the [ __ ] he say he's out of line he's a very contradicting uh young man but he ain't gonna do nothing to nobody he's not gonna come and sit in your bushes and wait for you to come out the door no so he's not a threat yeah so you know soulja boy then would have it would it would have been a waste of time to say show your gangster on somebody that's by himself and ain't gonna do [ __ ] he'd had to take the ass with him because his 12 [ __ ] stump in your mouth but he's the smartest [ __ ] i know when it comes to combat there's no rules when it comes to anything ain't no rules in this i think you may sound and miss a [ __ ] i agree i'd rather use mason bullets i didn't kill him yeah i missed him so if you want to give me a salt yeah go ahead and take it well uh since our last interview eric holder was found guilty right killing nipsy hustle which was really no surprise but there's always that little doubt especially in la in the history of the la legal system and so forth that maybe he might get a manslaughter or a crime of passion or something like that because that was what his lawyers were trying to fight for right his you know court appointed attorney you know because he couldn't get a real lawyer but he was found guilty right when you heard the news number one you ever met nipsey before no no okay i met him before i've interviewed him before right i've run into him before all right i'm just saying this [ __ ] stand up stand up dude right i've i've never said anything negative about nips in my life uh when you heard the news the guilty verdict what'd you think i wasn't surprised for number one oh boy is a gang member for number two people like myself looked at the things that not that nipsy was the 60s from 60s but the things that when you did hear the interview the things that he was saying and how he was trying to help the kids so here's a young cat young talking like a grown-ass man you couldn't help but feel him feel what he was talking about and i was like okay all gang members ain't bad i look at the [ __ ] i'm going through but listen to how this young man talking you know what i'm saying so when old boy killed him i thought he wasn't gonna live to go to court oh yeah people were looking for him well you ain't hard to get in the county jail so they must have had him somewhere where they couldn't get him they got him during the trial yeah but that's that's coming from the from the court to the from from the jail to the court and just because the police wear uniforms don't mean they didn't like nipsey somebody let somebody get his [ __ ] hat i heard it was a mexican dude by the way shout out shout out to the mexicans in l.a yeah you know y'all do the solid the odds has been just been against him now when he go to prison what the [ __ ] he gonna do well he's gonna be in pc you can get touched in there too so my own my only thing and i hope this dude hear me the only thing you can do is sharpen you some [ __ ] and and and keep your back to the wall and say [ __ ] it you ain't coming home so [ __ ] it anything come near you even if they don't open their mouth stab their [ __ ] ass because you don't know when it's coming you ain't got a choice if i went to prison right now with 30 i know it's over i know i'm a dying person i'm i'm not i don't expect to come home i mean he's getting premeditated murder uh i mean he's getting first degree murder so first degree murder plus i think attempted murder on the two other guys right you know he he shot two other people in the process i can't imagine him ever getting out he not not now for a murder now if if nipsey had lived then he probably would get a release date but in this particular case he's going to get life he's going to yeah uh it's one of those things you know a lot of the people i interviewed uh feel that he's gonna you know get barnyard visits or be someone's girlfriend in prison yeah uh i don't quite know how those things work and and you know people can't take that dog [ __ ] out of him the little dude is he was with it from what i hear on the streets yeah so you know i ain't gonna say he ain't gonna go to prison and fight he know he got to but it's just gonna be a long road for him because of his crime and who are you committed to crime on right and and who is really going to protect him right if you think about it right well the the crips obviously are not going to protect you the bloods aren't going to protect you no the latin kings aren't going to protect you uh the muslims ain't gonna [ __ ] with you uh the aryan nation don't want nothing to do with you uh i mean what do you have left i mean there's really no large you know the mexican mafia don't want nothing you already see how the mexican street i mean everything come with a price if if if you can pay for protection then you good you don't have no money though that's what i'm saying you ain't got no money to go with that you're going to be sitting in a sale for 23 hours a day every day so maybe that's the only thing that's going to keep me right well uh nipsey's friend cowboy mm-hmm uh we did an interview with him right and cowboy took the stand okay so the situation happened like this uh nipsey and cowboy were hanging out in the parking lot in front of his store right and uh eric holder walked up to them walked up to nipsey to go talk to him and cowboy even said as he was walking up nipsey said i wonder how this is going to turn out when the car pulled up and they hit that corner and when nip asked grandpa uh is that is that shitty and uh rand paula yeah and he didn't really say it to nobody but i distinctly remember saying i wonder how this gonna unfold you know what i'm saying think that exact words like i wonder how this going for oh no i wonder how this is gonna play out something like that they went and talked and nipsy said hey man you know they knew they knew each other she's like hey man i'd heard that there's some paperwork on you i hadn't seen it myself i'm just letting you know that's the word that's going around so if it's not true you should get that taken care of eric was like oh man people always hating on me this that the third but it was a positive conversation they shook hands afterwards cowboy went into the store uh eric left and then while cowboys in the store eric came back and shot and killed well that must not have been a healthy conversation then because if if if the homie putting you up on something and letting you know you need to fix it and we shake hands and you walk away i go on the stove then come out now i hear you coming back at me to shoot me what the [ __ ] wrong now well because of that conversation and you know because the word was always that oh nipsey called him a snitch and that's why why he ended up okay and that's what it got to be man this [ __ ] talking to me like that but i'm i'm he actually came to holla at nipsey to say man why are you telling [ __ ] i'm a woo you know what i'm saying so that conversation could have went anyway yeah but here or there i mean the only person though know that conversation is cowboy right kyle there's another guy also who uh named rimpow who ended up not testifying right uh but what had happened was because of that conversation because cowboy had so much love for nipsey he felt it was important for him to take the stand and explain to everyone just what that conversation was right he didn't see nipsey get killed you know the gunshots happened when he was in the store he ran out and he was the first person to to grab nipsey's nipsy's body right as he was dying but he took the stand cowboy himself is a rolling 60s [ __ ] in fact he's the one that brought nipsey you know you know on the set and a lot of people were really upset with cowboy for taking the stand you know he even said that people were hating him more than eric eric holder you know saying a lot of these young cats today don't don't don't understand the cowboys say he the one killed my homeboy no okay so if he didn't point to that person that's sitting at that desk with the suit on and say he the one did it i saw him do it if he ain't talking like that what did he snitch on that i heard a conversation basically saying that they talked and shook hands and walked away so anything after that i don't know what the [ __ ] happened really right what did he snitch about he didn't see him running off nothing like it was like gunshots he ran outside that's what he saw but you know i mean listen to me i i told cowboy that i support his decision i feel he did the exact right thing and i i would hope that if someone did something to me that one of my friends would step up and try and try to explain what had happened and you know it's crazy because they they put that sticker on everybody say for instance my homeboy i'm sitting here watching this dude just killed my my my my daughter then i go to court and say i sit here watch this man kill my daughter stab my daughter i'm a snitch to some people to some people you are which is so dumb in my in my opinion but then again i'm speaking as an outsider who's not a gang member who's not a street you don't have to be outsider you just have to be somebody to understand what what the [ __ ] it is you know like with these boss guys and they getting out here you know everything comes with circumstances and what is the reason why this happened or that happen people don't understand that [ __ ] and you know they just got that label right here and everybody it's a million [ __ ] gang members on this planet is is is 999 000 that's gangsters how many of you think that got a good relationship with with a police officer on that force in a city most okay if you grew up gang banging that that that captain sergeant or whatever you used to run you should run the streets you got a good rapport with you cool with him did that make him a [ __ ] rack because he cool with that one police officer come on man yeah it's crazy to me and one of the guys that got shot in that incident who didn't die carrie latham who i interviewed big you actually put us on the phone with each other okay because at the time they're trying to put kerry back in prison he had just gotten out he had just done like 30 years or so oh they gave him a violation they were trying to violate him for like you know being associated with gang members and everything else like that ultimately he got dropped ultimately got dropped and hopefully our interview helped to you know proliferate that but carrie lathan who was forced to take the stand got on the stand and said i don't know nothing he said is that you in the video i don't know he literally just denied knowing a single thing okay and because he i guess was gang-related himself right you know and the other guy who's right there next to cowboy uh rimpau who was basically forced to take the stand refused to do it and i believe that there was like a warrant for his arrest which they ultimately ended up dropping okay but rimpau was one of the the pallbearers in nipsey's funeral you know this is how close they were but he refused to take the stand right so cowboy was the only one who did it essentially you know there was a couple other civilians like a mother like this you know middle-aged guy who ended up talking about it but in terms of the people around nipsey only one person actually took the stand on his behalf in the situation and look it ultimately worked out but that lack of cooperation could have potentially allowed eric holder to get a much lesser charge right it could have it could have if let me let me put it like this let me put it like this if eric holder had a real lawyer if someone put up half a million dollars for eric holder's defense he'd had x he would have potentially gotten a manslaughter or whatever because leading up to because you know we went into this case you know mo ganga which is one of the lawyers that comes on vlad tv and explains things he explained what the defense was listen eric holder has serious mental issues in fact a week or two before the incident he had electroshock therapy his lawyer is going to try to do is basically argue a mental state defense and say that attempted murder or murder is not the right charge here ladies and gentlemen of the jury if you look at what was going on in this man's life in the months leading up to this incident and if you look at what was going on just in the days before including significant mental health issues that were treated by multiple uh manners you know he's not just getting diagnosed and he's not just seeing somebody he went through an electric shock therapy session to try to deal with whatever was going on inside his head so i think what's happening no good plea option so you got to take it to trial no good defense because the eyewitnesses say you let off the gun and so you argue mental state and you say hey my client just wasn't in a good place that day you throw it to the judge and the jury and you hope they lower the charge for murder to something like assault with a deadly weapon that's how bad his mental condition is and he wasn't taking his medication you know he didn't really know where he was or whatever he's mentally unwell you're honored he's probably he might not even be fit to stand try like you see i'm saying like you you get a an oj caliber dream team he definitely went to patton instead of prison yeah he did five years under observation and that [ __ ] walked out of there you know what i'm saying but he had a court appointed attorney and ultimately things worked out well because i just had lunella on here she thinks that if it wasn't a first-degree murder charge we'd see a you know a 92 la riot situation again she thinks that people would have started to really start tearing up i believe they probably wouldn't well you saw what happened during nippy's funeral he had a michael jackson caliber funeral right you know the staples center i think people would have really been mad at that but that's why they really found him guilty of murder instead of some some uh manslaughter [ __ ] yeah but i mean you know i can't sit up here and be a hypocrite because this is how we lived you know what i'm saying and this is how some of these cats lost their lives um using that red word this is how you know back back in the days it was more serious than it is today i mean you got 10 people in the room you throw a rock you're gonna hit nine of them nine of them is rats so regardless of what the [ __ ] they talking about man it's is it's getting more serious especially with the younger dudes today because they don't got nowhere else to go when when you talk about a homeowner or a blood or [ __ ] half of these cats don't have nowhere to go other than the hood you know what i'm saying so when you when you put me out there like that man i don't have a choice so larry hoover who is one of the founders of the gangster disciples uh who's doing life in prison recently renounced uh his association with the gangster disciples he wrote a letter he said regardless these people are apart from me and do what they do with zero encouragement or direction from me to be clear if i had any ability to influence them i'd ask them that they forget me and forsake the gang life forever i have long since renounced my association with any and all criminal organizations and their membership i am no longer a member leader or even an elder statesman of the gangster disciples i want nothing to do with it now and forever i agree with him this is someone very revered in that type of world and he's completely renounced that but look at how much time we've done in prison i mean he's been deaf like 20 years now and and at some point you want to come home and and you know you have to realize that me stinking to my principles my morals who i am means a lot but these white folks ain't looking at me like that they're looking at me as like i'm i'm this head [ __ ] that's in charge of everything and if it's if they're gonna do everything and they power not to let me come home because i'm i influence people or people they think people would do anything that i asked over more for me so now i gotta he realized he had to change that situation well yeah i mean he's an adx florence he's in a serious prison right he is not in a country club no adx is essentially the the top of the heap 23 hour locked out a dun donna prison yeah he doesn't get any more seriously yeah so you know i'd have been changed i'd have been i'd have been you know what they say they broke me yeah and i actually looked it up he's doing six life sentences what the [ __ ] you do for six life sins i don't know but you gotta have at least six twelve bodies you're gonna do you're gonna do a life sentence for each each case uh well according to wikipedia he was sentenced to 200 years for a 1973 murder in 1997 after a 17 year investigation conspiracy extortion money laundering and running a continual continuing criminal enterprise by leading the gang from state prison he then received a life sentence and then that yeah that's true it's six life sentences that's ridiculously put together what they gave him that to keep him where he's at but like i said i don't know him i heard of him and you know to be real everything that's a threat to our country goes to jail or disappear especially if it's of my kind my color we all know that uh the only one i ain't seen that we have that i think is left is fair kind the only one that that i've seen speak for anything you know what i'm saying you don't see they ran jesse jackson off you don't see him no more you don't see al sharpton they ran him off so i don't know why i mean you know i think he should have been dead what he did and just come home just get out you do what by any means necessary if you got to make them think or want them to think that you changed or rehabilitated [ __ ] do what you got to do should nobody be mad at that [ __ ] i mean and i mean to be honest at this point in chicago for everything i know all the people i've interviewed there is no central leader in the gangster disciples or the black disciples it's scattered with clicks all over the city all over the country there's no one who could come in you know like a larry hoover or a jeff fort the way they were doing things in the 60s and 70s and could bring a thousand people out that's not even possible anymore man no there are no people like that you know maybe a rapper but in terms of an actual gang leader there's just not that thing anymore the people's mentalities are not not even to be gone off the of the set as long as he's been gone you have generations at least two after up under him maybe three since he'd been gone these kids don't know him these kids the the youngsters of today do what the [ __ ] they want to do when and wherever how they want to so he don't have no control over that go to any hood in l.a and compton or wherever else the the little cats ain't listening to today oh geez they ain't listening to cease fire they doing what they want to do so everybody know from just that he has no he can't he don't even play a part in that so i think people should you know let that man alone let him do what he's trying to do and get him off of social media this is this is what's killing him everybody voicing opinions and then saying if he this if he died if he that's what's killing him leave him alone yeah man listen i hope he comes home at one point yeah i think uh you know at this point he's done so much time he's an old man uh you know correct the [ __ ] mistake let the man out yeah and let him see his grandkids let him be able to hug and touch his his family there you go he oh well uh since our last interview the super bowl happened and essentially death row performed at the super bowl yeah they did dre snoop and then you know the next generation of you know death row aka aftermath you know 50 cent eminem kendrick lamar as well as mary j blige when you saw essentially you know the label that you were associated with performing on the biggest stage in the world what'd you think all right i said god damn wow but i knew it i knew it when when sugar was home if she would have stand firm on the way he was devro would have been the biggest [ __ ] ever nobody would have been able to [ __ ] with death row today and i know this for a fact not just only he had us but that he had other people that was that that was somebody from different neighborhoods and he would have had it so like good so when i seen that snoop required the label yeah it was it was it was a good thing i think you know here i once was a i worked for this company now i own this company and everybody should applaud him because he's a young black man he was able to buy it he didn't fold when suga went to jail he continued to be successful and now he required now he now need death row yeah i thought it was dope i thought it was dope and i'm looking forward to see what he's going to do with that label can't be mad at him can't hate on him yep the only way he can [ __ ] up is treat it as if just some hood [ __ ] well uh i interviewed reggie wright senior right and what he said was because remember the uh the setup during the during the the show is like compton essentially right and they had a tams sign actually that was on on the field according to reggie wright senior he felt that dre did that to take a shot at suge knight because that's where he killed can you see it you can't see it no other way the set included tams burgers which is the infamous compton burger spot where for example where should ended up you know running over uh terry and and probably all types of other incidents happened over the years both good and bad but to actually see that on the biggest age no no doubt that was a shot at you it was oh you feel that oh you feel that that tams was a shot of shook reggie and i discussed it right after we saw the super bowl he called me go watch the biggest hem a hamburger stand or a pastrami stand in the city of compton is till the day is louise burgess so it's not tabs no no i know okay i know we spend more time louie you talk about compton you talk about pastrami or goodbye you talk about louise either number one or two towns is where the situation has situation happened and what he also said was that and you know i don't hang out in compton so i i can't co-sign this but what he what he said was is that when you think of compton and places to eat in iconic places tams is not one of those places there's he started naming other places that are a lot more iconic right in the world of compton in terms of like the go-to spots where you eat tams is not one of those but tams is where suge essentially you know ended his free you know it was his freedom everybody on the west side and and everybody that's going toward central toward the 80 part essentials the lower bottoms of central coming back up goes to tams everybody on the east side of compton and linwood and all that goes to louis burgers yeah that's what we went to but see that wasn't the case here they did that because of the situation why sugar's in prison today so they knew exactly what they did with that that wasn't no mishap or we [ __ ] up on that when we dropped the ball but i'm like this why can't be funny because the shoe is on the other foot now you see what i'm saying you did all this determining and disrespecting me as a man the whole nine and i threw a shot at you everybody mad at me but taking my money and dropping me on my head and doing all this other [ __ ] they applaud you on the back what do you mean drop you on your on the head no i'm just saying just being disrespectful to a [ __ ] in general sugar disrespecting you yeah and i threw up for damn ferguson and everybody yeah he did it and that's what he should have said yeah i did it on purpose don't hide it yeah i don't think anyone questioned him about it is what i'm saying like these are coming up in my interview oh yeah he was questioning he was questioned about it all right everybody was was oh so this was like a a talk that was happening oh and everybody was getting everybody's opinion my homeboy lee ford and everybody that was in compton was like oh that was [ __ ] up they did sugar like that and came at him like that wait a minute and and i don't speak bad on silk no more uh she'll got it harder than everybody and any [ __ ] on the street any [ __ ] in the street he got it worse right now yeah so but speaking of then i mean he wouldn't gave a [ __ ] and he probably would have did the same thing oh if if shook was in charge of the super bowl he would have did the same type of sneak this thing that would have happened oh my god it would have been on a whole other level when nobody would have been mad but so like i said you know drake felt that that was his shot to throw a shot at him yeah he took it he did it well uh recently the family of terry carter actually filed an 81 million dollar civil suit against shook you don't get it well it went to trial and end up being a mistrial it was like i think seven people found suge guilty but five did not and they just could not you know no matter how many times the judge told them to go back and right they just five people just said no we we don't see right well uh yeah and you know i mean number one i don't think sure guys 81 million dollars no i mean not not anywhere near that i heard he's okay though i heard he's buying people call you know girls cars and stuff like that that's what i heard from someone uh but you know now if the family the family since it's a mistrial they could go and start all over again and start a whole new trial but in these types of cases usually a lawyer takes that on contingency you know usually the family doesn't have half a million dollars to spend on a trial right that they might not win which in this case they didn't win nobody won right so to find to have a lawyer go through the whole process again it doesn't seem like it's gonna happen and at the end of the day look i mean the guy got 28 years he's lost the company whatever money he has is not what it used to be uh so so really it's almost like a symbolic thing trying to sue him and win but he's been convicted criminally for it right and i mean you know 28 years is a long [ __ ] time yeah to sit behind bars i know they never get terry back you know what i'm saying but you know i think sometimes we need to and i'm only saying this because i had to get over the fact that my brother's gone yeah i ain't got no i'm not mad at nobody i don't seek vengeance for nobody i i gave up it's a [ __ ] to be feeling the way i felt every day waking up every day hating people you know so this little cat out here made me see that i don't need to be waking up with headaches and pissed off at the world tell my grandson my grandson i don't i don't have to be like that right so you know i i just say it's crazy because i learned a lot of [ __ ] since i've had him yeah you know what i'm saying so maybe i had the time to sit back and reflect on a lot of [ __ ] that i've done [Music] and that's happening today i ain't mad at nothing because half of the [ __ ] i've done i should be in prison for the rest of my life and i am i'm i really realize i'm i'm blessed well you still have bullets in you yeah can you break down the different bullets you have right now i have a bullet in my lower back i have a bullet in my upper back up here and i have bug shots i have eight buck shots in this hand and i had them all down my arm but they all those fell out so that they would just come they they gave me about i woke up in bed and like what the hell is this rolling on me i'm thinking it's a damn roach and it was just little bibies pellets crazy but the ones in my hands as you can see all of these they never came out so was that all one situation or multiple situations different situation i've been shot on four different occasions four times you've been shot yeah okay well i don't count i've been grazed right here my lower sack with my left leg and then i've been i was hit right here i think it was a 38 in 1980 and then i got shot with a 4-5 and a shotgun now out of those weapons the shotgun is the most deadly at close range in fact they say the shotgun is the most deadliest weapon on earth at close range well we was in a car and i tell this story all the time this little bitty couldn't have been no more 13 14 year old little sworn cat came about behind some cars that swapped me and uh sprayed the car with a shotgun so yeah the little homie he ducks he's the driver he ducks and when i grabbed the sterling wheel shot my [ __ ] hand right off the steering wheel and while he down now my whole left side is exposed so after they shoot before we can even lift up the police has got their guns on us and um my t-shirt is bleeding my t-shirt up here bleeds my hands i got blood all over my hands and [ __ ] and they put me in a room handcuffed wait a minute how many [ __ ] just got shot so i denied their uh the avalanche to touch me and if they wouldn't charge and this wouldn't let us out just [ __ ] so did they arrest the kid who shot you no so they arrested you but now you said the police was right there they catch them oh you didn't catch them they didn't catch them so you know what it was over that shooting it was game bangers yeah gang banging [ __ ] what what what set was he from do you know he was from uh park village okay yeah park village do you know specifically who it is yeah yeah i knew who what hood they was from okay but you know but did you know specifically who the kid was they shot you i didn't to this day you don't know who it is all right don't matter don't matter no okay why would it matter [ __ ] happened to [ __ ] didn't know i shot them so hey fair exchange no robbery i mean we all know what we was getting into what we was doing so so you don't feel any sort of like for example like you you you have this deep-seated hatred uh for the you know the person who killed your brother butchery right you're talking about how you wake up every morning mad upset want revenge and so forth but the people who shot you you don't have that same feeling i think it's kind of different um living the life that we do and accepting what we do and the outcome of what we do it's totally different from being killed by a friend i didn't i didn't know this dude and the majority of cats that i ran into in my life that i pointed a gun at i didn't know him so there's no type of agreements no understanding there but if you lived or you came to our house and we was at your house and we in the hood hanging and drinking and kicking it there's nowhere in the world i should even think about killing you so it's a big difference between shooting your rivals or shooting a friend well the person who is rumored to have killed that country well is george williams aka monkey man don't matter he's out of prison now yeah i know [Music] and you know i get all of these phone calls i get people uh what you gonna do don't call this 50 some of your [ __ ] action what the [ __ ] he gonna do especially on the phone y'all know he's home why the [ __ ] y'all they did nothing don't call me don't call talk to me about nothing man like i said george over there james over here choice live your life do your thing you know what i'm saying we ain't i don't i'm not mad i'm i'm not living that i'm not living that i don't i don't wake up thinking about george i don't i don't sit on the couch wondering what the [ __ ] george doing i'm not thinking about that you know what i'm saying you know i talked to my boy and the conversations that i have with my with with my homeboy is it's like so real i don't i don't i'm not thinking about george well i just want to say this because this might be taken the wrong way this is not me just starting a rumor no it's actually in paperwork yeah so essentially according you know to homicide detective beth smith uh george and another person named reed were being investigated investigated as person of interest in at least one los angeles county murder you know detective smith uh told the times that the slaying of alton buntry mcdonald was these guys here and they both denied it so this is not me just starting rumors and putting targets on people's backs this is actually an actual investigation and this is what the police have said now they both denied it and they're not charged with it but this is when i said rumor this is because what the police have put out there right wouldn't you deny it i would deny it too of course but this is what i was just saying like i was saying earlier you know i can't sit here and contradict myself we we friends this ain't what we're supposed to be doing it's different if it was by let's just say we power rules it would it'd be totally different if it was crips i can understand that this we signed up for this [ __ ] here it's totally different but george's been going 15 16 years i've i've been over here this little dude right here i don't i don't i don't have no desires for none of that [ __ ] i don't care about none of that [ __ ] you know i just gave up decrying and stressing over my brother you know what i'm saying do i miss my brother yeah i miss him like a [ __ ] but i'm not finna do something that's going to take me away like it took him away you know what i'm saying yeah and then that's going to prison over anybody you know what i'm saying if i have to i don't got a problem with it i can sit there and roll with the time but if i ain't got to i don't got time i'm not doing it well uh since last time shuggs lawyer uh matthew fletcher uh has actually pleaded guilty uh actually pleaded no contest to one count of conspiracy uh to obstruct justice and one count of perjury in an attempt to try to bribe witnesses in order to get suge out of prison have you heard about this i i believe that right um under the terms the plea deal uh the lawyer matthew fletcher is getting five years of probation and he's barred from practicing law for the rest of his life uh it's a very interesting story in terms of looking into it what is some weird [ __ ] though so so basically the lawyer on wiretaps said is uh you know he referred to himself as a [ __ ] gang [ __ ] lawyer so essentially he was captured on tape a few years ago uh talking about the situation and he basically was charged with inspiring to bribe witnesses to lie on behalf of suge knight who he was representing at the time of the of the murder case um six months before the plea deal uh fletcher and another member of the defense team uh thaddeus culpepper were indicted on several charges regarding to witness tampering uh they say the attorneys were trying to pay witnesses to testify that a group of men who confronted knight uh shig knight at the burger stand were armed with guns because that was the whole thing right was that bones said he didn't have a gun and she try to say he had a gun which is why he ran him over and so forth and accidentally killing uh terry um so i mean it's very interesting the way it actually came together so uh we'll see if they would if if they would have dealt with that head-on like just been honest 100 with that case i i panicked i got scared whenever [ __ ] started hitting me because like i said earlier some guys were born to be like this some cats just choose to be like this right chose to be with something he didn't have to be you were a college student you did this you got money you don't have to be gangsta yeah well let me tell you let me tell you you don't have to be gangsta right so because you chose to be this way your day is coming that somebody's gonna test you so what happened was that you you you feel that you can come in and and the old tattoos and all of this can be played now mind you chill ain't nobody ain't no [ __ ] [ __ ] ain't no [ __ ] but you got some real [ __ ] you ain't doing that homie instead of respecting the homies of whomever that b-dog car it was like on some [ __ ] so when you were attacked you put your head down and drove the [ __ ] off you know shook did not pig and he shouldn't have got murdered she got a manslaughter he put his head down and tried to get the [ __ ] out of the situation well this is how the lawyer got busted basically the case relied on a jailhouse conversation that suge had with a witness that said that he was willing to help with his defense this witness was actually a sheriff's department informant posing as a witness who had the conversation with shook so knight sent the so knight then sent that informant to his lawyer with a suggestion that that witness needs to be paid nobody but this so basically with in court recordings that basically they were saying oh if this cat's ready to come forward and say look man we had guns i don't care what he said i don't care why he says it and if somewhere down the road they say oh hey give us 50 racks okay we'll prove that [ __ ] um so essentially you had these guys that were pretending to be witnesses that they were they try to pay off um you know there's a call between fletcher and suge knight where they basically agree that 25 000 would be a fair investment to pay this guy off to say this um you know it was he should've it was crazy he couldn't have made that deal or he shouldn't have went nowhere near that unless he knew who these cats were right were they street cred cats if he didn't know that you talking to sure you shouldn't have did that right so i mean that that pretty much just hurt his whole case i heard the whole thing the lawyer got indicted another the other lawyer is getting indicted also i think that that case is still pending so yeah this lawyer has now pled guilty so he he lost his law license luckily he didn't get jail time he only got five years of probation uh the other lawyer is still facing charges suge got his 28 years and yeah it's a mess you know if you want to talk about the legacy of death row uh you know we have a we have a youtube you know paid membership section on vlad tv we have a forum where you know paid members you know i sometimes ask them hey you know i'm interviewing so-and-so you have any questions for them one of our members marcel love brought up a very interesting fact suggs old club in las vegas club 662 where tupac was on the way to go perform when he got killed is now a gay club called true i just visit that club it was it was empty it was it wasn't even nothing there well you look it up on yelp and there's a bunch of guys gay gay dudes you know wearing like leather straps i mean that ain't a situation that i mean can't nobody changed that but no i'm just saying it's just it's just a little bit ironic and funny like i'm just saying that after all that it when it becomes a gay club at the end when i did the interview there it felt it felt it felt weird being back there because we when nobody was there after after the shooting in vegas nobody has party there since and being up there it was just like damn it brought back a lot of memories of cats hanging out in how we kicked it and how we felt like this is our [ __ ] we got a [ __ ] nightclub in vegas the mob because she bought that club or just leased it or or what i don't know i don't know none of this but that 662 was a death row 662 was different it doesn't 662 stands for something that's that hood street [ __ ] yeah that's the m.o.b okay there we go but yeah man it was crazy we really felt like we belonged to something you know what i'm saying then you know you got tupac and all of these different other rappers and [ __ ] and you know just ll and uh t.o.c you know coming through the hood joe to see the hood was like like okay you know what i'm saying so when it all just started to disappear right in front of you it was it was it was crazy it was strange right i mean after tupac's murder club 662 essentially shut down yeah it was around no one was trying to keep that no more parties no nothing um did you know shook's friend uh jake big jake big jake yeah you guys close yeah you know from what i understand jake getting killed in atlanta sort of started the animosity between suga and puffy no no dana monsieur was there already jake was just getting out of prison uh was introduced to introduce a bunch of introduced him to sure big jake was trying to stay home and wanted to stay home he had an agenda uh big jake was a nice well-built young man you know what i'm saying and he fit the criteria of what death row was looking for as far as bodyguards as far as solid cats willing to do what they do so big jacon sure got close like him and allison buncher and big jake was at the time trying to get into his own little groove with groups and and you know learning the business so that's how that's how jake came about uh and he started going out of town with suge by himself and one thing that well yeah i mean the story is is that big jake got killed by wolf who was puff's main bodyguard wolf is dead as well so you know we're not you know implicating anyone by by statements like this but you know after it happened the story is was that suge was blaming you know since one of puffs guys allegedly killed his man he got a blame puff for that and you know one thing started to lead to another well i mean you had to blame somebody for it i mean compton wanted to know how why and what the [ __ ] is these [ __ ] problems you know everybody knew that suga and and puffy had beef everybody knew that that wasn't a secret neither new york to california um i can say that some people didn't take to threats kindly some people felt the way we felt it's in their gazes we can be gangsters too you know what i'm saying so this is where the problem came in so you know we got to be ten times as cold as them we got to be willing to do this or uh touch [ __ ] way worse than they are so it just it just became a power thing you know who can do woo-woo so i think death row got caught off guard out there and we lost a real [ __ ] dude you know what i'm saying and it went on from there well was uh was jake like a real close friend of suge or someone he just met after he got pregnant jake was a close friend of bunchery every other cat okay so didn't really even know him that long huh okay everybody that changes the story a little bit everybody that worked for death row from the west side to the east side that none of them no sug sug didn't deal with and grow up with the homies like that because of his lifestyle situation opposed to ours sugar didn't hang in the hood like that and go to the west side and kick it on the block and party all of those guys met suge after i came home my brother introduced shook to the rock chisholms and so on uh from him rock introduced him to someone with the wolf some of the homies so everybody that suge knew and dealt with was introduced to him he didn't know okay or i have no clue of before death row what was the red room in death row red room was was oh well you know what it is it was just a room just like shook's private blood room the red death row rug the just it wasn't [ __ ] that wasn't the room where people got beat up i don't know man you might have a case of something going on already you actually [ __ ] fair enough all right fair enough fair enough right now the biggest story in the hip hop world is the ysl rico case where young thug and gonna are now you know along with 26 other people are sitting in a state rico case right no one's getting bond there's 56 charges and it's it's pretty crazy what's happening right there it ain't crazy see these young cats is living for today they're not living and trying to understand what today's [ __ ] brings you for tomorrow they don't give a [ __ ] they sitting here with a stack of money looking like a phone posing in front of these cars and all this other [ __ ] and rapping and then they talking on their phone the feds have the police have all these agencies have people to sit back and listen to [ __ ] talk all goddamn day they advance they [ __ ] and and then we like we don't even think it's this [ __ ] exists so with these young men right here it's it's gonna be more more to come yeah no the uh the d.a in atlanta said that there's two other major ricoh cases with like popular i think she even said rappers like it is coming down the line like popular cruise i think is what she said uh and i actually read through the whole indictment and went down the line and and some of the stuff there's so much social media stuff on there there's so many things that young thug said like oh i you know when you talk about wife and lucci because it's you know they're saying it's about that wife and why i sell war right atlanta you know i would have been killed you you know if i didn't like what you did for your mom like you know stuff like that um things like why i found lucci's mom gets shot and then a while later young thug has a lyric saying i shout at your mother now he don't mention me and granted it could be completely non-related i'm sure the lawyers will try to argue that but if you know that someone you're beefing with moms got shot you would think the last thing you would do was make a lyric about it well see i think i think outside the box they're gonna have a jury listening to this six of them people on the jury might be mothers they hear just that damn he the mother got shot and they rapping about i shot your mama now you don't mention you're convicted yeah you're convicted so you know but these cats that's on the streets today ain't paying attention to or taking the time out to go through and read all of that like you did yeah so we gonna continue to do what we do turn up and all that other stuff i read it i brought a lawyer in like i brought you know the uh the investigative journalism journalist in who had been following this case like i'm like yo let's really dig into it and see what's really going on and it's like it's serious there's a lot of self-implication in in this particular case that there's a lot of you know like you know there are songs by young thug where he's mentioning all the different gangs that he's affiliated himself with there's the the constant gang signs there's this there's that there's lyrics all over the place um it's you know there's recorded conversations they have text group chats where young thugs said that anyone who who goes to court and cooperate is going to get [ __ ] killed like you know i mean like stuff like that that just makes it look very bad and and here's and here's my prediction i've mentioned this in a couple of different interviews we live in a very weird place right now in america where you have these ridiculous lawsuits with just unbelievable dollar amounts for corporations that are associated with certain things like for example like i think remington who makes the the the ar-15 got sued for like a had to pay like a billion dollars because the family of one of these school victims showed that oh you know they're marketing these guns to unstable individuals therefore the gun manufacturer has to dish out this money um you know you know recently you have the situation where you know like the sesame street situation where sesame street character didn't wave at a little black girl so now the family wants 25 million from sesame street so here's what i predict is going to happen young thug is signed to 300 entertainment 300 entertainment is owned by warner brothers right now let's just say you know young thug is facing like 50 years so unless he wants to risk that and take it to trial there's a very high chance he's going to take a plea deal right right right let's just say to give a plea deal for 15 years and his laura's like yo this is going to be the best deal you can get like i know it's a lot but yo you're looking at life otherwise so let's just say that young thug takes this plea deal and in the plea deal you have to admit to all the things that you do right you have to say i did this i got this person because there's there's a murder in the in the heart of this whole case right like a a rival gang leader got killed and young thug rented the car that did the shooting right so let's just say in the plea deal somewhere deep in this plea deal there is a confession by young thug a plea that says yes this lyric about yfn lucci's mother is about my involvement in her shooting right that's part of my plea deal the mother can then go get a lawyer and say look your honor warner brothers has marketed this artist's lyrics about shooting me i want a billion dollars she can get paid and think about the chain reaction that will then happen after that that will set a precedent with major labels of gangster rappers they have on their labels they're now going to be viable financially liable for these lyrics that are gang-related maybe that are based on reality cut that [ __ ] out and then stop this game rapping yeah and all that [ __ ] at once i'm honestly thinking this is not necessarily a bad thing you know maybe this needs to just go back to being an underground genre again you know because it's still going to happen people are still going to rap about it you're not going to stop it but it'll be stopped on a major label and it won't be on the billboard charts and so forth right not necessarily a bad thing well it's not because we're not coming up and i'm speaking for me and black people we're not coming up with a solution a way how to fix this situation this situation with these young men we're not coming up with no solutions so but we're going to be quick to accept whatever the [ __ ] is giving to us or what we're told we can't do no more we're going to accept it and that's how it's always been so [ __ ] need to recondition their mind they need to take a look at this [ __ ] that's happening now and reassess these situations do you really want to wait until you get all this [ __ ] money and now you want to be a [ __ ] gangster that wasn't part of your life then it shouldn't be now and everybody that tried to do this has failed big time name one [ __ ] that came out here that was a college student and then came and became a gangster and enriched well just a couple of them but but the average [ __ ] don't make it man it don't make it so and then we quick to blame all the white people did it white people had made you go shoot this [ __ ] they they damn sure didn't make me do it i wouldn't brainwash so we got to fix that [ __ ] and until we do that we're going to be able to talk about this on every [ __ ] interview and they're not going to stop yeah they're not going to stop well uh since last time draco the ruler you know an la rapper was killed backstage at once upon a time in l.a you heard about that situation he was actually stabbed to death backstage and this is i remember you know his manager uh you know tk called me afterwards tk baron and we had a long conversation on this and he kind of explained to me that this is the first time an artist has been killed backstage at their own show you just never hear this happening people get killed coming back from the show they get killed at a studio they get killed at a you know whatever at a you know eating eating lunch to be at an actual show that you're being paid to perform at and it's a live nation event to then dying because you get mobbed by a group of people that you're allegedly beefing with uh is is is really sad i interviewed the guy when he just got out of prison right cool guy man you know and uh he was really buzzing and really doing his thing but you also have to take a step back and say look at the role that he played in this whole thing shortly before he made a song called ingle weird right where he dissed inglewood a whole city full of people who are proud of their city i'm not saying one has to do with the other but i'm just saying that this is the type of energy you're putting out it all coincides with each other and like i said see what we fail to realize is sometimes we got to learn how to keep our [ __ ] mouth shut and not speak on certain individuals because that individual you're speaking on got more energy than you do and he can some something can happen and bad things happen to [ __ ] that that to us when we get to running off at the mouth and then just overlook it let it go but that person don't feel that way you know what i'm saying so like i said man we have to do better and you know just just people in general not just black people but we all got to do better and you know these cats out here and understanding that they looking at the money they make in the day they nobody has longevity on their mind i'm gonna make this money and go off and live they not they don't have longevity yeah i mean slim 400 got killed right i interviewed him as well uh jay the youngin just got killed the other day 24 years old i interviewed them saying that before they gonna be like flat mentioned everyone got killed that he interviewed good watch it is what it is man yeah it is what it is everyone that i interviewed does not get killed like that's not that's i'm just breaking this but but but yeah a lot of unfortunately a lot of black men way too many young black men who i have interviewed i mean the list goes on and on sbg duck uh moe three like literally i i make lists sometimes just to see how bad it is and it's like yo this is crazy and a lot of these guys like like the the fpg ducks and the moe threes in my interview i'm telling them you should move out like like i'm seeing this pattern already and i've seen this pattern too many times right yo listen you've already gotten shot once you've already been shot at you your brother has already been killed like this is not going to work out in your city no man i'm good i know how to move i nah man i feel comfortable here ain't no one going to touch me no one chased me i don't need security there's that the third you know fpg fpg duck got killed in the equivalent of rodeo drive of chicago right imagine imagine someone getting killed in rodeo drive it sounds crazy right but that's essentially what happened everybody is potentially can get god you know what i'm saying but just like i was when i was a youngster power power meant everything uh being recognized meant everything for people to look at you and all that smile change it meant everything to me it it gave me that sense of power but the the cold part about that is you got to know how to possess it you got to know how to hold on to it you got to know how to deal with that type of power some cats don't and they make mistakes they make a lot of mistakes and it's not real power it's power is it though it's power is it until the police step in and then everyone runs no it's power that's part of the game we chalk that up as part of the game who wants to go through all of that [ __ ] i'm just saying that that if if i remember reading uh monster cody's book right right a rest of peace monster cody uh did you ever know him at all no i don't know you heard him though yeah and uh he talks about how as a gangster he was a a trey right right a h [ __ ] he said that as a eight-tray gangster we will sit there on our block and shoot it out with as many enemies that will come we could be outnumbered ten to one right he's probably talking about the wrong sixties because that's what they've been beefing with forever right like whatever a thousand rolls sixties will come out we'll stay there we'll fight whatever one police car will roll through will all scatter that's a true [ __ ] escapement yep one police car that's just with one cop in there well all scattered and these dynamics is different see what i'm saying see people that don't live the hood don't understand that part us the dominant it's it's we don't want to have nothing to do with that black and white but we sit here and risk our life to fight each other because what i stand for is totally different than what he stand for and this is what i mean by it's not really true power if it's true power then [ __ ] the police [ __ ] the government i'm gonna build my own [ __ ] you know and you see that type of [ __ ] in other countries like you go to brazil you go to the favelas out there where the police don't go in there whatever drug lord is running that that particular little hill right you know with the with the 200 residents the 200 i've been up there right i've been through there you go up there and there's kids on the roof with rifles right i think we we need a special permission to go in there at all and and the police cannot just roll up in there whenever they feel like that's like in the projects the projects didn't let the police come through there but street [ __ ] not built like that ain't thinking like that ain't on that page totally different from from saudi arabia and some [ __ ] like that totally different our mentalities wouldn't take us to that point we just on some gang-banging [ __ ] and the police was in the middle of our [ __ ] so we gonna avoid them [ __ ] so if that one car came i could tell the same story yeah we just do a drive-by and you know you don't drop three [ __ ] but the police come turn the sirens on you pull over and put your hands in the air [ __ ] we got aks in this [ __ ] why we don't get out the car and shoot them [ __ ] and get on no ain't thinking like that that's what i'm saying [ __ ] give up that's what i'm saying so if you want to talk about real power it's i understand what you're saying and i'm not trying to disrespect anyone who feels that way right but if you just take a step back and you got to take some because you know you get caught up in your own little world like your own little microcosm and think that that you're the the lord and the king of this domain and so forth if someone can come in and just you know i i'm sure larry hoover felt like he was on top of the world you know he could bring a thousand people out and so forth until he gave him those six life sentences and he realized i guess i did not have as much power as i thought that's where you're wrong because in prison he could still be like that he could still be in prison he got caught doing that and that's the whole that's how it got into six life sentences because he they're saying according to authorities that he continued to run this organization in prison until they put him in a place see what i'm saying until the people with the real power said oh oh you're doing this now okay so that's different type of power though see you got to understand what type of power i'm talking about when you hang in with 10 people and you go to another hood and that and when you go to that other hood and everybody come oh what's up homie what you drinking i got you but the nine cats with you went off as [ __ ] you know what i'm saying they looking at you the big homie they this one with the business and then all the girls flock to you because your name rings yeah power like like do it makes sense but it it makes sense to an average person right you know what i'm saying being able to go where you want when you want to have and get what you want it could be small things yeah but i'm getting it because of of a name i'm getting it because of what i'm doing yeah you know what i'm saying i'm just saying as we get older my list i'm 49 you're in your 50s you you take a look back on it you're fighting for blocks you don't own nothing most times those houses aren't even in your name nothing you're renting from someone who doesn't even come in the neighborhood ever exactly you know who lives out in beverly hills somewhere and they owned 300 properties around l.a uh you know something happens to you they'll find a new renter in there they don't give a [ __ ] they're not gonna bail you out because you've been living there for 20 years nah oh oh you can't pay rent anymore okay you're evicted who's next but that's still the hood i can still go back to the hood the house gone i like my mom just when my mom's past my sister sold the house in compton yeah you know i thought it would keep my nephews away from compton no they they should go to compton you know what i'm saying you don't need to have a house and and there's a lot to say this is the hood i feel you you know what i'm saying speaking of the hood when uh i interviewed reggie wright senior one of the things i brought up was the rumor that he actually witnessed your brother buntry's murder and that he didn't return fire and so forth no boy it's amazing i've heard some some family fantasies or some some people making up stuff according to what i heard they said that i was in the car with buntry in the in the uh the truck the tahoe wood buntry when he stopped at the gas station to get gas and i was supposed to be with him in the car i went in to pay for the gas and when i came out the guys were shooting a bunch and i refused to shoot because i should have had a gun and i and i ran that's the story he said that was all nonsense that's over he said he wasn't even he said he was at home asleep when that [ __ ] happened the homeboy was with him and you know once again that's just people talking uh i doubt if if reggie would have been in a car without sin and then reggie senior yeah reggie senior yeah register it's it's it's when i heard it and i heard it like a month after uh he was killed that that reggie was with him and reggie shot back so reggie no no todd's the little homeboy todd stick rest in peace was with him and tossed it got out the car and ran away you know what i'm saying people was mad at him because of that he's getting out of the line of fire i don't want to get killed so there wasn't nothing wrong with him getting the [ __ ] out the way like everybody you know it's no reggie wasn't there man it was totally [ __ ] uh your daughter is now out of prison yeah how much time she do four years okay three years eleven months let's say almost four years four years four years but you still are taking care of her son yeah does she plan on taking custody back uh i don't want her to uh-huh is it really your choice though no it's not yeah uh and my plan was for my daughter to come home get her a job then she can seek her place and come get your son pop all done popo tired papa want to go out you know fought for what a relationship um my daughter wants to do want to do her you know what i'm saying i'm not gonna sit here and say i've been to prison so i know what she feels since she's been home or want to just hang and let her hair loose no that's that's done you got two kids oh she has two kids yeah where is her other child amaya is with her father and i got aligned with her father my my granddaughter is with her dad okay and i took lionel okay so she has neither a child right now no no it's kind of you know not very common when it comes to a mother usually the mom comes in you would think all her [ __ ] instincts would come out and you know a mother cubs protects her a mother bear protects her cubs you would think that she would come home and and well she did come home and embrace her kids but she felt like she was missing something in the street i ain't gonna say i can relate to that but i know some of i've been there i want to be in the streets i'm fresh out of prison i'm i want to hang out but for her to be a mother i think she should have embraced her kids uh i think she should have came home and and came home to us she had her her own and her everything at my house you don't have to worry about [ __ ] um i just want you to get a job you ain't got to catch no bus or nothing i'm gonna get your car you work for a year and then when you get your place then i can be comfortable when lionel leave my home and go to yours go with you but that year you're showing me that all that other [ __ ] is out your system so i'm protecting him at this time and you know i love my daughter she had grown as woman but i can't and i will not follow her to see what she's doing or or focus on her like that so i allow her to do what she do and i maintain lionel how old is she now she's 28 28. well i hope that uh you know the other day i think kids belong with the mother most times so i hope i hope that she stabilizes her life and takes people to her kids and uh learns from the mistakes that she's made never goes back to prison again and um the is it because there's two different dads yeah kids yes well lionel's father is doing 17. oh so he's not coming home anytime soon so well he's been in there since my mom's past since uh 18 2018. so four years in he's got it up 13 years to go yeah so well he don't do the whole 17. uh he's trying to get five of that took off okay so if they take off five of that that's nine eight years yeah so he had about three and a half four years left three years all right so hopefully that'll happen you know uh nano has his own phone where he talks shows pops every day and you know he he he knew where his father is you know what i'm saying i make sure that but you know with mommy being home you know he started off auntie auntie it's your boy i'm your mama anyway he's calling her auntie yeah and then he say for real you my mama oh wow are you the lady on the pitcher in my room and she said yeah boy so he mama what you doing now now he know he recognized he understand who she is so don't change it and try to take it away from him you see what i'm saying and disappear yeah so long as he got his grandpa man he good he's out of harm's way he ain't got to worry about being hurt by nothing and nobody well i interviewed reggie wright jr right after our last interview okay uh is he ever going to come back to gangster chronicles uh i want him to um i think and i'm more worried about him right now with his health and and how he his situation for against chronicles at this point anything at this point rach you need to take care of yourself you know what i'm saying yeah i mean when he came over we needed to get like a a special we we paid for a special type of van right to help because he's in a wheelchair right to help bring him over because he's still suffering from the you know what he went through with covet and everything else like that i mean but he is talking and he is lucid and everything else like that but i mean he's still suffering from i think he a little more than than what he led us to believe i think if we pay more attention to getting his help together i think he'll be all right he's going to be all right yeah you know i worry about him i worry about the dude when you know he sounds funny i'm on him you know what i'm saying but i think he needs to start focusing on himself opposed to this podcast and you know all this other push that's going on where is the gangster chronicles is it still an active yeah yeah we're still doing it so is it an every week thing or is there a hiatus we do one we do one every week okay um and mca is still part of it yeah okay yeah and norm and you right we still doing it you know after that [ __ ] with with the uh fg and all of them cats i had to say hold the [ __ ] up but then i had to realize that the doors was open for me or anybody to come after me and say anything about me especially if they feel like i'm here so let's get this [ __ ] to speak and talk and we can go back and forth and argue with this dude so the door's just open so i get it but after that i had to just really just just bag the [ __ ] up from norm and everybody else to to readjust a final question one of our members actually brought this question up uh stf fatboy i actually think this is a great final question and he wants me to ask you if you could ask god to forgive you for one thing what would it be my crimes the things that i've done to people i would and i pray for it every day damn i'm getting much calm already that's cool um i pray every day that he forgive me for all the [ __ ] i've done for the people i've hurt um it's crazy because when i ask for this how can you give me a kid to take care of and i don't even trust myself i didn't trust myself so i hurt people i did i did some stupid [ __ ] how do you even trust me with a kid i pray for it every day to be forgiven for the [ __ ] i've done in my life well that's how we're going to end it uh that's some real [ __ ] because i'm trying not to drop this [ __ ] tail your [ __ ] yeah but that that was a cold ass question i fight it every day black um i don't know if my my prayers been answered or heard so i just try i keep trying every day and you know with people trying to attack first thing i thought was just get your [ __ ] guns and solve it like you normally saw go after these [ __ ] and kill them but who am i to speak to kids and do all this other [ __ ] feeling like just said a drop of dime go back to bob james nah it didn't work so i'm gonna stick with what i feel and the change of heart thing and being a [ __ ] a nerd or whatever the [ __ ] they want to call it i like it better this way so i i i pray every day that every night just forgive me for my crimes that's what it is mob james james mcdonald uh i appreciate you coming in man all the best peace

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