Mississippians in Vietnam: A Shared Experience | MPB

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- We didn’t make the decision to be in Vietnam. We made the decision to be soldiers. - We was called to aid a friendly nation, and that’s what we did. - Uncle Sam calls, you do your duty. At that time we thought that was right. - They fought a whole other war when they came home. (somber music) - First heard about Vietnam, I was on active duty. You got to hearing the stories about what was going on and the counterinsurgency and all the other things about that. I don't think the country had taken hold of it as such. We in the military understood it because they were taking people out of units, especially Special Forces units, and they were being sent to Vietnam. - I was probably very typical of the people in the late '60s. I knew a lot about Vietnam but was not particularly interested in going, but then was drafted. I was married and had one child and actually, another one on the way. My second daughter was actually born while I was in Vietnam, about a month after I got there. I got my Draft Notice in December of '68. Actually, just before Christmas, a good Christmas present. I had kind of hoped that the fact that I was married and had a child might impact that, but it didn't. I arrived in country on the third of August and got assigned to the 227th Assault Helicopter Battalion. - Reported to Vietnam March '67. Joined my unit, the 173rd Airborne Brigade Company A, and I was given a platoon as infantry platoon sergeant. Got wounded May 21, 1967. Everything in Vietnam was “search and destroy”. You search the area, you found anything that aid or comfort the enemy, you destroyed it. We came upon a base camp and saw that the campfire was still warm, which meant that they had been in the area. We began to search it out. I instructed a young private to inspect a 55 gallon drum with unpolished rice. Instead of going the proper way, he tipped the barrel and immediately found two M-26 grenades with the pin pulled, as we call a pressure-release booby trap. He pulled the drum towards him and the explosion went in the direction I was walking. In my legs I was wounded with grenade shrapnel. I stayed in the hospital and they changed the degree of your injuries and I stayed in country. In September, I went back into the field. - I flew into Pleiku. Pleiku's in the central highlands, which is about midway of the country, maybe a little bit on the north side. I was assigned to the First Cavalry Division, Air Mobile. After I had been there a couple or three days this guy came by and he said, Huddleston come on go with me." He said, "Bring your helmet." My flight helmet. So I got my flight helmet and went with him. And we were hovering on a South Vietnamese rifle range, and we got a call on the radio. They called us and told us that we had a medical evacuation to do, and see, I had just gotten in the helicopter. I don't know where the hospital is, I don't know where roads are, I don't know what the radio frequencies are, I don't even know how to call the tower to get back into this field where I am. So this guy that I was flying with was a great pilot. His name was Dave Durling. We called him Lurkey. So Lurkey asked for permission to take off and we just were over there in ten minutes at the most and picked up this guy. It turned out that he was not a combat casualty. It was a snake bite casualty. - So, I left Easter Sunday of '66 and went to Vietnam. Assigned to 7th Air Force headquarters in Saigon, and we had a little operations detachment. We had three airplanes and a helicopter, and we hauled people around Vietnam and all over. The Air Force had a two-star general that was in charge of this Agent Orange spray that they were using as a defoliant. We flew him by helicopter a lot of times, to the areas where they were spraying. And this stuff was so bad, it was so strong, it just turned a dense forest into barren land, so you could see what was going on. We did that in the mountainous areas of Vietnam mostly. - You've got the central highlands. They're small little mountains like the Ozarks or some of the small foothills of the Appalachians. They’re very small. And then you've got the rice paddies. - Walking in rice paddies. One of the most sacred commodities over there was foot powder, for when we stopped, then you put on your dry socks after drying your feet and putting foot powder on them. When you got ready to move out, you changed from your dry socks and put back on your wet socks and put the dry socks back in your helmet in the plastic bag and moved out. - In late March, maybe the second night we were there, we came under a pretty good bit of mortar fire. I don't know how many mortars, but a lot over a period of several hours. So, I had gone down to really check on supplies. We get what we call leakers, we called them leakers. The bladders were rubber and sometimes they'd get hit with shrapnel or bullets or whatever and they'd leak and you'd end up with jet fuel all over the ground. And so, I got caught out in the open and a mortar hit fairly close. I remember becoming aware that I was on the ground and that I was bleeding real bad. Had a lot of blood on me and I could taste blood in my mouth. That was a little scary. But within a matter of just a few minutes, somebody slid up beside me and it was one of the medics. It looked bad and it scared me pretty bad, I guess. But he kept telling me, "You're gonna be okay. You're gonna be okay." It was funny, the one thing that has always stuck in my mind, amidst all of that, he had a white towel. And in the midst of all that confusion and him trying to talk to me and check me out, I kept thinking. I couldn't get it out of my mind. "Where'd he get that white towel?" I'd been in Vietnam a while at that point and I hadn't seen any white towels. - We had these airplanes. They were designed to operate in a short area, and we take bladders of fuel, or bundles of ammunition, whatever the Army or Marines needed, that was out in the jungles. We take and make what we call drop missions. Well one time in particular, we had dropped ammunition, and the Army was surrounded, a detachment of them was surrounded, and they had chopped some of the bushes back. We went in and made our drop, and were going back to altitude, and one of the Army people was running across to where the thing stopped, and he stepped on a landmine, and he just ... Was all over. We had to sit there and watch that. It's a... Hmm. - The 2nd battalion of the 173rd airborne brigade ran up on combat soldiers from the north, and they were surrounded and pinned down. This was the battle that started early November of '67. My unit joined it about the 18th or 19th of November. This was the first time that a unit moved at night in the jungle. As we got close to Hill 875, in Dak To, bodies was all around. The first man reached a body, stepped over, and said to the next one, "Body." The only thing we could do at night was hold on to one rucksack that was in front of him. When he stepped over and said body, you was ready to step over and say body. Why was that? One we didn't know if it was our bodies or enemy. One thing we didn't take no chance on, that it would be booby trapped. - We got a call one morning, and the military had discovered the bodies of six green beret soldiers that had been dead, probably, two weeks. We took the highest-ranking Army General from Saigon up to where this discovery had been made, and what it was, was the Viet Cong had captured these six green beret soldiers, took them out into the woods, and they made them strip their clothes off and fold them neatly. Took their green berets, and put it on top of their little pile of clothes, and they cut everyone of em's throat, and laid them down with their head right next to their clothes, and they were like toothpicks. Six laying there together. And that's the way we found them. But after they looked at them, and everybody cried a little, we had to bag them up. Me and part of the crew, and some of the volunteers from the Army. It's kinda hard to bag up people that's been deceased for two weeks, you know. - It’s difficult to be in a situation where you see people being killed. We had two or three situations where our camp was attacked and where we killed some of the attackers. And then you had to go out and watch, some of them were torn apart. We had one individual who went in front of a caliber 50 machine gun. You have tracer rounds, what is phosphorus and I guess it burned at about 300 degree centigrade. If it hits you, it sets you on fire, you just explode. So we had a couple individuals that were hit by these rounds. And you'd have to steel yourself against it. So what you would do, you would try to act like it was an everyday occurrence, so to speak. If you let that get to you, then you couldn't effectively do what you're supposed to do. So in your mind, you let this be how life is. And it carried over to me to a degree. When I was down in Georgia, this old man, he stepped off the curb, and a car hit him, must have knocked him 20 feet, just boom. I recall prior to that me seeing this I would have been rushed to him to see if the man's okay, wondering what happened. I'd have had some feeling. The car hit this man and I had no feelings whatsoever. I just had nothing. He just got hit. - Once I got home, after a few days, it was great. Everybody ... Small town. I was from Vancleave, so very small town. I think within four or five days, I think I'd seen everybody that lived there. But after a few days, and it's really hard to explain now looking back, Vietnam was all I could think about. All my friends were over there. I didn't know what was going on. I didn't know where they were. I didn't know what was happening to them. I struggled a good bit after a few days with the fact that no one here seemed to be as interested in it as I was. It hurt me in many respects that they didn't. - I returned home, there was no big fanfare, I came home as one individual. No big parade or nothing like that. Medically retired May of 1969. That early September or late August, hurricane Camille came through. Hurricane Camille made Hattiesburg look like a war zone. I slept through it. It didn’t bother me. - People that have never been in the military can't relate to what they went through. The stress level that these young people are going through. When they come back, they are forced to keep it with them because they have nobody to talk to that understands what they're talking about. I did a lot of counseling with these guys, and when I say counseling I'm not talking about me talking, I'm talking about listening to them tell me what... They took me as a comrade in arms because I was in the military and they would tell me things that they couldn't possibly tell their wife or their parents or anybody else. It got to a point that when we had a welcome home in Fort Collins, Colorado one year... (voice breaking) it was hard. These people were ... It was like a family. It didn't make any difference what branch of service you were in or what you did. All the special forces came together. You had to be there to see that. They knew that when they spoke to somebody, that person understood what they had been through. And they felt comfortable in that environment. - Well, I landed in San Francisco, and then I come to Mississippi for 30 days before I went to my next duty station. San Francisco was bad, as far as the protestors, you know, but one of my favorite things, in the food line, is milk. I missed it bad in Vietnam. For a year, no milk, and I had got me a quart of milk. Was sitting on a park bench in San Francisco by the airport drinking that quart of milk. (laughing) And the people come by. The only thing said to me was "You didn't have to go without milk. Could have stayed home." But, you really can't stay at home. You gotta do what you gotta do. - The more that they media processed all these protestors and what not, it made them want to clam up. It wasn't for fear, but they wanted to be accepted. They didn't want to be known as a Vietnam Vet. They didn't want anybody to know what they had done, they wanted to keep it all a secret. A lot of those people back then did not want to join the VFW or the Legion because they were faced with people from WWII or Korea that had not been through the same situation. - I’ve had some visits to the VA hospital in Jackson. When you see those people, and the Vietnam veterans, more so than anybody else, always try to wear something that displays where they were. A lot of those guys are bitter. Because of the public, the media after the Vietnam War, talking about that it was a political war, and we didn't need to be there, and we lost all these people for nothing, and they say, especially if you see a guy with a limb missing, an arm, or a leg, or foot, or whatever, you know. “I wouldn't have had to lose my foot if it hadn't a been a political war going on.” Of course, consequently, they're bitter. - The protest that I saw most was from college students and mostly white college students that were protesting against the war and against the draft. I remember being in an airport and two white college kids calling me baby killers and these types of things. This is when I returned from Vietnam. And of course they encouraged us then, told us to stop wearing our uniforms when we flew because of the animosity and the protests and venom that was heaped your way. And I think one of the things that happened was when Martin Luther King got a hold of it and he protested the war. I think the whole change, and then it was really full blown because he had a legitimate protest to start with. I was in the Atlanta Airport and he was passing through and he saw me, we were just standing there, and I said, "Oh, man, I guess he's going to give me the devil." I was in uniform. He said, "Son, are you going or coming?" I said, "I'm coming back, sir." He said, "Well, thank God we got you back," and that's all he said and kept going. - When I first visited the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, in many respects, I think it was a turning point. So, we got to Washington. I really had no desire to go all that time, but now that I'm there, I want to go, like, now. And so we checked into the hotel, immediately got a cab, went over there. Got out at the Lincoln Memorial and walked down the hill there on the side where the statues are. I probably stayed there by the statues, 45 minutes. My wife walked down there. But I had a hard time making that commitment to walk down that hill. Eventually I did go down there. But that walk down that hill to the base, that's probably the most difficult thing I've ever done. That would've been '92 maybe, so I had, like, 22 years’ worth of stuff, but I left a lot of stuff there. When we left there that day, it was just as though I left stuff there that I'd been carrying around a long time. I mean it's just hard to explain how emotional it was. - In 1994, Doctor Andy Weist at the University of Southern Mississippi, asked me to come and speak to his class. And in 2000, they had a training course in country for those students and they invited three veterans. I was one of the veterans to go. This Vietnamese gentleman came up to me and he said, "You're an American aggressor." I said, "You're a VC aggressor." We laughed and we exchanged names and units we was in and he said, "Come. "We celebrate. We celebrate survival." Couldn't nothing be more powerful than that. We celebrate survival when you consider on the American side some 58,000, not to mention the millions of Vietnamese. (somber music)
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Channel: Mississippi Public Broadcasting
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Length: 26min 46sec (1606 seconds)
Published: Thu Nov 09 2017
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