In Country: A Vietnam Story

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- [Announcer] Funding for "In Country: A Vietnam Story" was provided by UPMC. (gentle music) - [Announcer] By supporting the arts, we celebrate the richness of life. UPMC Presents. (helicopter blades whirring) ♪ But come on all you big strong men ♪ ♪ Uncle Sam needs your help again ♪ ♪ Got himself in a terrible jam ♪ ♪ Way down yonder in Vietnam ♪ ♪ Put down your books, pick up a gun ♪ ♪ We're gonna have a whole lotta fun ♪ ♪ And it's one, two, three ♪ ♪ What are we fighting for ♪ ♪ Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, ♪ - No, it wasn't no joke, but I'm saying it wasn't real. It can't be, it can't be here, you know? That what I'm saying to myself all the time. But, the fighting and the bombing, it was scary. But you get so used to it, 'til it didn't matter anymore. You'd say, "But, I'm going home or I'm not going home." ♪ You know that peace can only be won ♪ ♪ When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come ♪ ♪ And it's one, two, three ♪ ♪ What are we fighting for ♪ ♪ Don't ask me, I don't give a damn ♪ - I thought it was surreal. All you heard were helicopters, paca, paca, paca, paca, they were going overhead left and right all the time. When they opened the door to the airplane the heat hit you in the face, even in January, it was sweltering. ♪ And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates ♪ ♪ Well, there ain't no time, they wonder why ♪ - In the bush you didn't get the necessities. You might get water, there might be a fresh water into you. You wouldn't even see a ration, you got a hot meal occasionally. And you didn't sleep in a nice area containment, whatever. You slept on the ground, you slept in a hole. (horns blaring) - [Chris] Thing I can't get over is all these beautiful squares and buses - Man, that's right. - Look at that dealership. - [Chris] Ford, Ford in vietnam. - Dealership, wow! - Go ahead, Ford. - This is some trip, it is some trip. ♪ Come on a Wall Street, and don't be slow ♪ ♪ Why man, this is war a-go-go ♪ ♪ There's plenty good money to be made ♪ ♪ Supplying the Army with the tools of the trade ♪ ♪ Just hope and pray if they drop the bomb ♪ ♪ Drop it on the Vietcong ♪ ♪ And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for ♪ ♪ Don't ask me, I don't give a damn ♪ - [Leroy] I'm just as lost as a pig in a laundry. - Pig in a laundry. - Yeah. - [Chris] A pig in a laundry? - A pig in a laundry. You remember this traffic circle, Boone? - [Chris] I do not remember a traffic circle. - [Andrew] I'm lost, I don't know nothing about a traffic. - [Chris] Big city. ♪ Come on generals, and let's move fast ♪ ♪ Your big chance is here at last ♪ ♪ Now you can go out and get those reds ♪ ♪ The only good commie is the one that's dead ♪ - I'm sorry everybody, but I can't help it. - [Leroy] Yeah, don't worry about that, man, shoot. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. - You my man, you know that, don't you? - Yeah. (both laughing) (soft music) - [Chris] I was in Vietnam with a lot of men, but two were there for almost divine intervention. And they're headed back with me now for the first time in 35 years. War makes friendships that often last longer than the conflicts themselves. It's why I couldn't go back to Vietnam without them. I'm Chris Moore, and this is "In Country: A Vietnam Story." ♪ Morning glory ♪ ♪ With pride upon his pedals ♪ ♪ Gun smoke and palm leaves ♪ ♪ And I'm shaken with my fingers upon this trigger ♪ ♪ I'm crying out ♪ ♪ But it's too late ♪ (soft music) - I'm proud to be a veteran. I feel a very special obligation about that. I've always wanted to go back to Vietnam. The memories are etched in my mind. I came to Vietnam January 4, 1970. Wide-eyed, 20-years-old, didn't know anything. And, the bluest sky I ever saw was in Vietnam, the reddest dirt, it was a surprise, it was a eye-opener. It was a totally different environment. Let's see, what is this, what's in this? My friends Leroy Perry, Andrew Boone and I served in Vietnam 35 years ago. This when you with the Big Red One? - [Andrew] Yeah, mm-hmm. - [Chris] Now we're headed back. - [Leroy] I don't know what it's gonna be like if we get over there. - [Chris] Looking at old photos we talked about what we might expect upon our return. - You won't see nothing like this at all this time, and it's good. - But you'll know, 'cause the road to Xuan Loc'll go this way and the bypass goes around it. - That's right. - You know where the split is. - Yeah, you need to mark that for him. - [Chris] Andrew Boone is the gentlest soul you'd ever want to meet. But in Vietnam he went through hell. He spent a total of 18 months in country and a year that was with the 1st Infantry Division. Most days for him it was kill or be killed. That's Boone with his head just chilling like Plato, contemplating his existence. - I constantly think about how my mother thought about when I came home and she was sick. And she was saying, I could remember just as good, she said, "Look what they done did to my baby." Because I was withdrawn. Now, I could talk to you, 'cause me and you was over there. I could talk to him 'cause he was there. But my family and other people, I couldn't even talk to 'em. They'd talk to me and it was just like, a tongue to that wall. - Look, about squished the tires down on it, flat. - I wanted to take a ride. - [Chris] My other good friend, Leroy Perry, was our Platoon Sergeant and a career military man who did three tours in Vietnam. He still deals with the after effects of the war, like the time he was ordered to dig a mass grave for Vietcong dead with a front-end loader. - And see the thing behind that too, you really don't know, you don't know if there's murders in that group or what? You know? 'Cause you're talking about all they wanted was the body count, right? But these guys that's still missing, who's to say what happened to these guys? What did do we do to put 'em when we put 'em in the back of these dumps, or whatever, right? 'Cause they doing a mass burial. You don't know who was in those holes, you have no idea. - [Chris] Despite all of this, we'd talked about Vietnam for years. After all, it enforged our friendship. See, we all met each other in D Company, 46th Engineers, The Dump Truck Platoon. - [Leroy] What was happening with the Big Red One before you got attached to us, what was your life like? - Really, I didn't even think about it. All I was saying, I was there. I mean, the way I felt was like, I'm going back home one way or another. I'm gonna be in a box, or either I'm gonna walk back. And that's the way I feel, I never thought about it no other way, I just lived day to day. You didn't try to make friends with anyone because if you did, you would subject to get killed quicker than he would, because if he get hurt you was gonna try to go get him, and then that's where you gonna get killed. - Ooh, look at that, right through the top of it it! It didn't burn it, it just exploded inside? - [Andrew] It blowed it. - And killed him inside? - [Andrew] The guy that was at the microphone. - [Leroy] See, that's what we were talking about, - From a desk. - You think you got - a good job, you behind the desk, you in a air conditioned Quonset hut, but, if the rocket come for you. If your name come up on the roster, that's it. - That's right. - [Leroy] Vietnam is a beautiful country. - [Chris] It is, it was always beautiful. - It was always beautiful. - 'Cause even during the War you could hit some spots it was just as peaceful looking, you wouldn't think there was a war going on. - [Chris] That's Sergeant Leroy Perry. We always saw him as a leader of men. Tough as nails, but in reality he still is mama's baby boy. - And then I went back the second time she started raising sand. She said, "Look, "why you got to go back to Vietnam "you been over there one time already?" - I said, mama I'm in the military, the Army sent me over there. I didn't tell her, God forbid she see this thing, I never told her that each time I went I had volunteered to go. And she don't know today that I had volunteered to do this thing - She know now. - She know about this trip. But them other two times, she never knew. - [Chris] That a third time you went you volunteered? - The second and the third time that I had volunteered. - [Chris] And what happened the third time? - I volunteered, she never new. She never used to have to call the government, I called the Army. - [Chris] I met both of these men when they were hardened vets. Boone spent a total of 18 months in Vietnam. And by the time I got there in 1970, Perry was on his third tour. Both of these men, much more worldly than I, would become more than my friends, they were like my big brothers. - Chris came in and we met him. He was just a young kid, couldn't be no more than about 19. He a little wild. And some of the things that he would do, you know, we would tell him, "No, you can't do that." "Because you get in trouble." "You can't do that, you gonna in trouble." - And Chris came in, a little young college kid looking like I said, a little lost puppy. I don't know for something about him, Boone and I just took to him. I guess, put him under our wing, and brought him through. And one thing about it, he stood with us and everything. We taught him a lot, and a lot of stuff we didn't know, we taught him a lot, we didn't teach him nothing wrong, we taught him the right way. So he can truthfully say that we never went astray. Not with him. - They're like my older brothers. We probably sound like brothers too, the way we talk to one another. We cuss each other out, we talk about each other. But, as life goes on I don't know what I'd do without these two men. And we were separated for like 27 years. And when we found each other, it was just like we hadn't seen each other for about two minutes. And now we were going back together. (upbeat traditional music) - Look at that park right there. - What is it a motorcycle park in the corner? Oh, that's the Presidential Palace, man. - It is Vietnam out here. - But what it look like, fellas? Did you ever think you'd come back here after three tours? - Never! - It look just like America to me. - [Leroy] I never thought I'd make a fourth trip back. Never this one. - They got look like high rise and everything else. - [Chris] We were looking for our past, and we found it in Ho Chi Minh City when we went on what we used to call a recon mission. It ain't big as them D9s - No, no, no, no. - and drones they would pull, it's a lot smaller than that. The War Remnants Museum focused from a Vietnamese perspective on the history of aggressive military action against the people of Vietnam. for the three of us it brought back vivid memories. - I wonder how many VCs out here? - [Andrew] Say what? - [Chris] Probably a whole lot. - I wonder how many VCs out here. There's so many reasons I had pros and cons about coming back. And the closer we got, I think a few times I could feel it. I could tell it. I don't know, you get really emotional. And especially coming in, what am I going into? Or what's gonna happen when I get there? What am I gonna see? How the people gonna react? - That one right there, picture right there, is when you laying on your back, and you said, "Lord, say, "if I ever get back home, I'm a do everything right." "I ain't gonna never do nothing else wrong." That's the lies you tell when you pinned out there. - 'Til you get out of there. - [Andrew] When you get outta there you go back doing the same thing. - Now, you talk about a hell of a weapon. You see the duds laying right there, look. Some of 'em are empty, and some of 'em didn't go off. But you didn't wanna see that thing. You think it's a 60? - That's what it is. - Well, you outta know, you carried 'em, wasn't it? - That's what it is, see the tripod on the end down there where it's standing up? - Uh-huh. That's a 60. - And then belt, yeah. - Boone, there's your patch right there. - [Andrew] That's me? - [Leroy] Big Red One. - [Andrew] Look at 'em got 'em there, that's me. (somber music) - [Chris] When you was looking, I know you had to come out of there. - Yeah, that's why I came out. 'Cause I seen it so many times. It get to you when you see something like that on the wall 'cause they bring back a whole lotta memory that you saw that things could have been prevented at the time. 'Cause frankly being, I think, me, it's just a senseless war. What did we accomplish? Nothing. You got a lotta people killed. And when I walked in there just then and walked around the corner, it looked like my insides just turned inside out, like I wanna throw up. And I just walked outside, I said I can't look. When I told you, I can't look at that. - [Chris] Our time at the museum really affected Boone, so we cheered him up the way we always did. - Boone, (speaking in foreign language). - What that mean? - I didn't give you that name. - Big Black Boone. - I didn't give you that name, you don't know who give you that name? - Who? - Wa. - Wa. Wa the one, I thought you gave me that name? - No, uh-uh, Wa gave you that name. - [Chris] I wonder why. - [Andrew] Uh-huh. (Chris laughing) (horns blaring) (upbeat traditional music) - A madhouse. (laughing) A madhouse. Unbelievable. But I love it. Boone, Boone! - Yeah? - [Chris] Mama said, "You a big one." (both laughing) She said, "Boone." (speaking in foreign language) (Chris laughing) Boy, look at this tree lined boulevard! Daylight, and our recon mission continued 20 miles north to Long Binh, our old military base. And onto a little village called Xuan Loc. Well, which way is Xuan Loc? - [Leroy] It shoulda been straight ahead, Xuan Loc. - Are you sure? - Yeah. - I don't remember that curve being that deep. - Me either. - Oh, that might be the old road right there. Maybe that's why. 35 years ago this road, QL1, or Highway 1, was red dirt and very dusty. We paved it. Well, as a truck driver they put me in the engineers, not a transportation company, which was a blessing, 'cause transportation companies got ambushed all the time. And if you were pulling a truck with a trailer full ammunition or a trailer full of JP-4 aviation fuel, you could die very quickly and very fast if you were attacked. And so, they put me in the engineers and we built highways. We were construction engineers, not combat engineers, and we built QL1 from Long Binh all the way to a little place called Gia Rai. I don't recognize nothing around here. - [Andrew] Me either. - Now things have grown up so much around it, we can't place where we are. Look at that gate that's there. It's sure looking different than that concertina wire wouldn't it, though? - That's right. We used to have bunkers all up and down this road up here and everything. - That whole hill, what? Every, what 100 feet or so, was a bunker. - Was a bunker. - Yeah, uh-huh. - Machine gun outpost. - And all this was concertina wire, where we riding right now was all land mines. It was amazing. A huge military installation that when we were there housed over 30,000 troops had now become an industrial park that was home to 80 international corporations. The crowning touch was an old water tower now remodeled into a VIP restaurant. I don't recognize anything. It's like you've been dropped down on Mars somewhere and they told you this was home. - The last time I was in here had a machine gun in it. - Not in this part. - No? No, but I'm saying, - Not in this part. - the last time I was here I had a machine gun. - [Chris] It's great, I mean, it's great. This is a lot better use of the land than what we were doing with it, as far as I'm concerned. Look, there it is, QL1! 20 miles later on Highway 1 we finally found something we recognize. - What's that? - QL1, that's it! There was nothing here, this was open field. We cut down all the trees, the main road to Xuan Loc goes right in here. And then, we just bulldozed all this stuff and made a bypass. - [Andrew] When I was driving truck I used to stop many times here, many times I stopped here. (horn blaring) - [Chris] Whoa! - [Andrew] Old boy got that big truck humming ain't he? - Look, - Back in the days. - that's what we used to do, I hate to tell ya. We'd come through laying on that horn like that. - He ain't driving fast. - No, he was going too slow. (laughing) - [Andrew] Look like a lawn mower, hold up. Look like a lawnmower. - [Chris] The good thing, we used to use the bypass in the daytime, in the night they would use it. - [Leroy] It is a lawnmower. - [Andrew] Yeah, like a lawnmower. Look at him, look it, he's ready. - [Leroy] Or a tiller. - Yeah, a tiller. Made him one, look. (both laughing) Good one. Number one, number on truck. - You talking about modern technology, you can't beat it. - [Chris] Boy, look at that. (horns blaring) - To Saigon, the Saigon express. - Yeah. Look at him barrel down the highway, man. - He got emergency brake on. (Chris laughing) That could be the town taxi, huh? - [Chris] Could be the what? - [Leroy] The town taxi. - [Chris] All right, y'all ready? - Ready! - All right, that's the shot, brother. You're in the marketplace in the old city of Xuan Loc. Where you can get anything you want. Xuan Loc was a dusty little village 35 years ago. Today it seems to be a full-fledged town and we all wanted to visit the Xuan Loc Market. (upbeat traditional music) I can't believe they ride down there. - I coulda farted and blew that thing down. (all laughing) - [Chris] You'd a blown everything over down there. - Gold. - Yeah. - Pure gold? (laughing) No. - No. - Oh no, uh-huh. - No. - I know, not real. - A nice one, very nice. - [Chris] We headed back to Ho Chi Minh City and stopped at what used to be Ambush Alley. Supply convoys were hit all the time on this stretch of road. We believe that we saved a lot of lives by clearing trees, straightening and paving the road, and essentially cleaning out Ambush Alley. Then our past caught up with us, literally. - The dirt was in there before. - Oh, look at that, look at that! Oh, oh, oh, where's my camera? - [Leroy] About a five ton. - [Chris] Oh, it's a five ton. Oh, look at that, a wrecker! - 243. - [Andrew] And that's ours. - Oh, golly, I missed it. - 243, that's the light one. - Oh! Seeing that old military truck brought back a flood of emotional memories. And I came over a hill and I started passing a bus with probably 100 Vietnamese packed into a little small bus, and a small Lambretta was coming up in his lane, and I was gonna run him off the road, and I was headed right for him, and he just stopped in his lane. Little narrow two-lane street, no shoulders or nothing like that. So the only option was to squish him flat as a bug, or run the bus off the road and probably kill 48, or 50 people. I don't know, something got into me and I locked the truck up, and it skidded, trembled to stop, and I stopped almost as close as I am to you, and he looked right in my eyes and I could tell he was cussing me out. And I said, you stupid gook. And then something came over me, and I don't know what it was, but, I think it was the realization that I was on the wrong side of the road, in the wrong, in his country, getting ready to kill him or run over on the bus and kill a lot of other women and children. And that I was behaving very badly. And I stopped doing that. And I just cannot believe when I think about it what we used to do. In terms of, we would go down the road blowing the horn fast as we could go. We were the biggest thing unless it was a piece of armor on the road, we just go right down the road barreling, and everything had to move out the way. It was stupid! We were young, we were GI's, we thought we ruled the world. We were in these people's country, and we did stupid stuff. And I can only ask God to forgive me for it, I really can. 'Cause it was stupid. - I think during that time we were gung-ho, young, and didn't care or whatever, and I guess, I don't know, you get over here you get kinda loose. 'Cause a lotta stuff we did was wrong, we know that. And you can tell it more now than you did then. It's going into a person's backyard. You don't go in a person's backyard and mess with 'em. - [Chris] It was at that moment that I realized you don't come back to Vietnam alone. Only these men knew what I was feeling right now. That need for healing and reconciliation. - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. - [Chris] It's what drives some veterans like the members of The Friends of Da Nang. - How are you? - Fine, thanks, how are you? - Hello. - We highly appreciate the cooperation and the assistance of Friends of Da Nang. - [Chris] The Friends of Da Nang is a humanitarian organization headquartered in Pittsburgh. - I feel more welcome than the previous time. - [Chris] Tony Accamando was an officer with the Signal Corps during the conflict. - To also congratulate you for the wonderful. - [Chris] George D'Angelo flew close-in air support in F-4 Phantoms. - [Woman] From Myanmar to Thailand. - [Chris] Noreen Doloughty, who was only eight-months-old when her father was killed in a firefight. - The projects that we do currently and future projects. - [Chris] Roger Costello, an Australian. He was in Special Operations attached to an Armored Squadron. Dr. Ed Kelly, orthopedic surgeon who served with the 3rd Medical Battalion. - [Le] Hello, how are you doing? - Hello, hey, Le, Le! - Yes. - I remember. - [Le] Hello. - [Chris] This medical clinic was the first stop on the Friends mission of mercy. - This equipment which was donated by Mercy Hospital in Pittsburgh helps me to assist in the recovery of Vietnam from our presence here. And I think the country is still recovering from the years that they suffered consequences as a result of the conflict going on in this part of the world. - This is a retractor. - [Chris] Dr. Yong Le, the clinic director, is grateful for this gift. - Because we here in Vietnam we cannot get such instruments. They're very costly in Vietnam and we cannot get such. We try to make it, but it difficult to have surgical steel like this. - [Chris] We were surprised to meet another American at the clinic. (speaking in foreign language) - My name is Sandy Do, I am a physical therapist. I work in New York City, in Manhattan at New York Presbyterian Hospital. But I've had nothing but wonderful experiences from Vietnamese people here. They've been very welcoming, and very interested, and curious about who I am and where I'm from. (speaking in foreign language) Last year, my first time here, I was a little anxious. I wasn't sure how a Vietnamese-American would be perceived coming back. If there would be resentment or envy. But, when I came back it was wonderful. (speaking in foreign language) - [Chris] Sandy and her patients aren't the only ones to benefit from these programs. However, none of this would be possible without the generosity of The Friends of Da Nang. Though they're not all veterans, they shared dedication to this land and its people. - Has your group really increased since you first started this operation? - It has increased. But it's also changed. It's increased in numbers maybe by 10 or 12. But what's happened to some people have gone off and done other things, they have moved, but other people have come aboard. And even younger people have come aboard, Vietnamese and non-Vietnamese, veterans and non-veterans. And the most impressive thing to the veterans is that the non-veterans, particularly the women who are involved in our work, they had no military association with Vietnam, but just appreciate the good work that we're doing. - Right, right. - But the great thing about these facilities is they have an opportunity to be diagnosed in the little village or hamlet closest to their home, and based on that diagnoses the decision's made what to do with them next. Wouldn't you think, Ed? - Yes. We might see some primitively constructed walking aids, for instance, the last time we were here they used a bamboo stick for a crutch. (soft traditional music) - [Woman] Come with me. (people chatting) - Who's that? That's you, yeah. (camera shutter clicking) (laughing) (people chatting) This is the end result of what happened from when we were over here, so sad, so sad. We are so blessed to live where we live and to see this 37 years later. (soft traditional music) - Some of these infants have what we call in the United States, cerebral palsy, and what they refer to over here as movement disorders. One child has Down's Syndrome, and, as I said, a couple of the individuals that we see here have been effected by the mother's exposure to Agent Orange which causes some characteristic deformities at birth. (soft traditional music) - I don't know about y'all, but that eats me alive. - That's right, you know why? 'Cause it remind me when we was over here 35 years ago how they used to run around and we'd have food and stuff, and the MC rations in our bag, and they wanted it and they'd just have a fit, eating it and doing. But some of the kids were so hungry, they didn't know what to do. - [Chris] It looked like they was getting to ya in there a minute ago, when you were looking at that third one. - [Leroy] Yeah, it was. - [Chris] What were you thinking? - Where did we go wrong? I'm still thinking the same thing, man. (people chatting) - You're all right, man. You know that? - It's all wrong. It's all wrong. - All right, I got the point. - Go ahead on! - [Leroy] Go ahead. - [Andrew] You got it too, by yourself. - I got the right flank, go right ahead. - I got left. Just keep moving. - Keep moving. - Keep moving. - [Andrew] Keep on moving. - We are visiting the homes of two children with disabilities. And these two children were born with disabilities. Maybe they have the birth defects. When World Vision received the support from The Friends of Da Nang, we implement the Let Them Walk Again Project in assistance for the children with disabilities. - [Chris] Fong Nguyen Huong is the project director for Let Them Walk Again World Vision Da Nang. World Vision has been helping some of the world's poorest people for more than 50 years. - He can't wait, can he get those little toes moving around all over the place, you can't wait to get to that, you happy now? (dramatic traditional music) (barking) - [Chris] Not too far down the road we visited another family who'd benefited from Let Them Walk Again programs. - We have a support for the surgery with orthopedic surgery, and according to the doctor, or the surgeon, this is to keep the arm's stabilization. After a few months then they put into the arms with a metal pin. And after a few months we need to do the surgery again to pick out the metal pin. That's why she request for our support with financial support for her to have the surgery again. (soft traditional music) - [Chris] It may seem like a small thing to us to have surgery on your arm. But in rural Vietnam having full mobility enables a child to help with every day task. That means something here. It's odd to walk these roads with a different purpose. Knowing that we're here as friends rather than enemies. Yet our minds can't help but wander back 35 years. Well, tell you the truth, we only went on two patrols, but this was what it felt like. (laughing) - It just wasn't as cold. - As a matter of fact, it was hotter, it wasn't as cold, right? - And it wasn't this close together. - You right. You would not walk this close together. - If you did you were dead. - Yes, sir. - Must we need to do everybody in? - But did you Aussies go out on patrol? I thought y'all just rolled around in those fancy looking trucks you had. - We tried to not go out there, but they sent us out there, yeah. (all laughing) We ambushed a lot. - [Leroy] Did you? - [Man] We went up and down the north of the borders, to Laos and Cambodia. - [Leroy] Okay, so you were trying to interject the Ho Chi Minh Trail wherever it ran, huh? - [Roger] Yeah. - There's one Aussie who rented a dump truck with a kangaroo on the side, they gave it Humping to Please. (all laughing) - A long time ago, gentlemen, a long time ago. - Yeah. - It was. - I think I weighed 165 pounds soaking wet. - I was exactly the same, I was exactly the same. We were skinny, what do you expect? We only had bloody ribs and a couple of skin on us. - [Chris] Yeah, that was it. - I'm probably about 150 pounds heavier now. (all laughing) - I'm about 300 pounds heavier. (all laughing) - But you could still hump that rice patty if you needed to, right? - Aye, if it was incoming I believe I could. (all laughing) - Or get up under this water. - Give me a piggyback, would ya? - [Chris] It felt great to laugh about the things that used to be so serious. Maybe it was just being on a mission that we could all feel good about and realizing that it's never too late to give back. Like the new wing of the Hoa Son School. Built with donations from The Friends of Da Nang. Where 600 kids were as anxious to meet us as we were to see them. (all talking) - Which one, one? Woo! (all clamoring) Hey, careful, careful, relax. - Everybody back up! (upbeat traditional music) - [Chris] The students gathered in the school's courtyard and performed a special dance for us. (singing in foreign language) (all clapping rhythmically) - This school is dedicated by the partnership of the Vietnam Children's Fund as a living memorial to the 2 million Vietnamese men, women, and children who lost their lives in this country's recent wars, and as a gesture of reconciliation and healing between the peoples of Vietnam and America. - [All] Hello! (horns blaring) - All of Vietnam is alive. The place jumps from Ho Chi Minh City to Hanoi. In Da Nang there are literally millions of motorcycles which seems to be Vietnam's favorite mode of transportation. Somehow in a sea of traffic bicycles, motorbikes, cars, buses, and huge trucks all seem to co-exist. Being back in country I couldn't help but think about all the people who'd never have a chance to make this trip. Over 58,000 Americans died during the Vietnam conflict, including James Doloughty. His daughter Noreen had joined us on our journey to pay her respects to the father she'd never known. Somebody told me that friends are just strangers who never met. - Yep, yep. - So, hello, friend. I think that applies to Noreen and me. On the bus as we travel to a cemetery for Vietnamese War dead in Chu Lai, near the area where her father died, we felt comfortable talking to each other about her dad and life's what ifs. You ever think what your life would be like if he had come home? - On one hand I think about it a lot, on the other hand I try not to think about it. What if he'd come home but he had come home wounded. Since I don't remember my dad, I was so young, I don't have any of my own memories or anything that feels like it's mine. And, as I kinda learn more, and I kinda understand who he was, it kinda hurts more that this isn't just some figment of my imagination, this was a person that is not here with me. And I was the only kid I knew who had lost a father in Vietnam. And you can't really talk to people in your family about it 'cause it's too painful. (somber traditional music) - [Chris] We couldn't go to the exact spot where her father was mortally wounded, but we did visit this cemetery for Vietnamese War dead where nearly 1,000 graves are marked unknown. Do you suppose it was close to here that your father died? - Yeah, it was somewhere, I mean, it was right off of that road we've been on. Here, I mean, this is something I've wanted to do for a long time. Can heal to a point of being able to function, and, you know, be better about it. But that's never gonna totally go away. - You all right, man? - Yeah, I mean, it's just hurting. People just don't even know whether they family here or not. Don't know where they husband, they loved one, or they kid, or what, they don't know, they just don't know. It is really hurting me when I look at stuff like that. - We made it bro, and we made it back. - That's what I was talking about, I said I coulda be one the same way, I could be laying there and nobody know where I'm at. It's just a miracle. But I'm thankful that I am, but I would love to know, who, is it America there or what? - [Chris] Yeah, who's down there. - I'm sorry, but I can't help it. - Don't worry about that, shoot, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You my man, you know that don't ya? - Yeah. - [Leroy] Don't be making them ugly faces though. - Yeah. - All right? - Yeah. - Huh? - Yeah man, it's something out there. Yeah, I'm okay. - [Leroy] I know you okay. - Get it out my system. - [Leroy] Let it out, let it out. Let it out. You straight? - [Andrew] Yeah, I'm straight, I'm all right. - [Leroy] You messed up my hanky, I didn't bring but one. (all laughing) And give me the dry side. (all laughing) (engines roaring) (horns blaring) - [Chris] I can't believe I'm walking through the streets of old Hanoi City alone. (speaking in foreign language) People are everywhere doing any and everything that one could imagine. (speaking in foreign language) But it's taken almost a full week in country for me to get over the feeling that I'm not safe here. That I need a weapon to walk these streets, but the people are very friendly, and as I walk, I'm just a brief curiosity. - What are you doing there? (laughing) - I constantly have my home video camera rolling and I captured these shots in Hanoi. American Jeep still in use. Lovers in the park doing what lovers do. Kids just being kids. And of all things in this communist country, the decadent art of breakdancing being practiced, all under the watchful eye of Ho Chi Minh, who's massive tomb sits atop this hillside overlooking Hanoi. A place the Vietnamese fiercely defended. (artillery blaring) Shooting down many American planes and taking our pilots prisoner for long, torturous stays in the Hanoi Hilton. (speaking in foreign language) But hatred caused by war seems lost on many of the city's residents as they go about their business. (horn blaring) I'm so emboldened now that I decide to get a haircut. How long? Tell him how long? How long? Go ahead. (speaking in foreign language) How you gonna cut it? - [Barber] Move away. - Glasses off? Okay. This is what I call being on the block. I've had my haircut on the block, but this is really on the block, in Hanoi. (upbeat traditional music) Our trip back to Vietnam is almost over. We head north to Halong Bay just off the Tonkin Gulf where the Vietnam War supposedly started with an attack on the USS Maddox by Vietnamese gunboats. And it's a place of incredible beauty, and our day there was shrouded in fog. Everyone seemed to be thinking of the journey we'd shared. - A small problem can result in wars if you're belligerent and not understanding. But if you are understanding, and you empathize with others, and you're more prone to see their side of the problem and try to solve it. And you know what we thought when we were here, and how we referred to people. Can you imagine doing that now? I can't even imagine it. - I've come back with my eyes open and looked at the people for what they are and the country for what it is today. I'd say to any vet, you need to come back, you need to come back. You need to come back and get closure, and that's what it's taken for me. (upbeat music) - [Chris] This is all part of a veteran's legacy. We appreciate better than most the honor and privilege of serving our country. As younger men we went to war believing that what we were doing was right and necessary. Growing older and returning the Vietnam to see its beauty and the beauty of its people has brought us full circle, but with a better understanding of what it means and costs to be free. - This is the truth at the time, and this is what I signed on for, and you do it. And now, my whole idea of war is quite different, as you know, and I'd probably wouldn't be enlisting these days. I think there's plenty of other alternatives to war. And it's a matter of working to find those alternatives. - I think my wishes are, if we could just not have all these wars and then become friends. We've done it with the Japanese, now we're their friends. We had wars with the Germans, now we're their friends. Today America's Vietnam's largest trading partner. So it makes me wonder what it was worth? - I can't speak for anybody other than myself, and those who have said to me that once they've come back to Vietnam as a veteran it has certainly helped them come to grips with the past, and even more so for the future of their lives. - I know other people who've come here to see where their fathers died, and most of them have told me they just feel such a sense of relief about it, and such a peace about it that they didn't expect. But, at least now with this trip I can have my own memories of the country and the people. I feel like this is exactly where I'm supposed to be right now. - It's hard to talk about stuff like that, you know? 'Cause it brings back memories. I could look in that book there and show you a lotta guys that was with me, they're not with me now. They were left over there. To me, I wasn't around a lotta things like killing, and then when you go in the Army you do things that you don't wanna do, but you have to do 'em to survive. (soft music) - Anybody you in the combat zone with you bond, its really, it's thicker than blood, it's thicker than blood. And there's stories that we could tell that we wouldn't tell. Things that we have done we'll never tell. I met Boone, I met Perry, they were like my older brothers. They were street and world-wise guys who just took a little young wet-behind-the-ears kid like me, who turned 21 in Vietnam, and helped give me some self-control and some maturity. That's what they did for me, and I'll always love 'em for that, always. (chuckling) (crying) I don't even think they know what they mean to me. I don't even think they know. (soft music) War is a brutal, ugly, hurtful business. The pain and suffering stayed with us long after the battles are over. But we keep other things too. There are friendships and respect, and a deep connection that says "Were you in country?" "So was I." A pundit once said that "Veterans make the best pacifists." I see that sentiment personified in Boone, Perry, and the rest of the folks on this trip. We're well aware of the fact that there are other vets who don't share our views on war, and its value. For us at least, this journey has been a way of making peace with Vietnam, with ourselves, and with our past. ♪ Imagine a place where the children don't think of war ♪ ♪ Peace is always in their eyes ♪ ♪ You may say that I'm dreaming and I don't understand ♪ ♪ But I'm not the only one ♪ ♪ Ho oh oh ♪ ♪ What is war, I wanna know ♪ ♪ Who will the next one be fought for ♪ ♪ Courage take my trembling hand ♪ ♪ And guide me through the darkness ♪ ♪ Let love be my candle ♪ ♪ And let peace shelter me ♪ (upbeat music) - [Announcer] Funding for "In Country: A Vietnam Story" was provided by UPMC. (soft music) - [Announcer] By supporting the arts we celebrate the richness of life. UPMC presents.
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Channel: WQED Pittsburgh
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Keywords: wqed, vietnam, vietnam war, vietnam veterans, veterans, veteran, veteran stories, vietnam stories
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Length: 56min 42sec (3402 seconds)
Published: Mon Aug 21 2017
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