♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> WE ARE GOING TO BE BACK IN THE GAME. IT’S NOT A MIRACLE ALONE. I’VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SIX WORLD LEADERS AND THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN VERY FULSOME, ENERGETIC. >> Bret: PRESIDENT-ELECT JOE BIDEN TALKING ABOUT HIS INTERACTIONS WITH FOREIGN LEADERS AS THEY ARE CONGRATULATING HIM ON HIS ELECTION. JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY NOW AND IN THE FUTURE, THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES, MIKE POMPEO. MR. SECRETARY, THANKS FOR THE TIME. >> THINKS FOR HAVING ME ON. >> Bret: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO WORLD LEADERS WHO ARE REACHING OUT TO JOE BIDEN, NOW PRESIDENT-ELECT, LEADERS FROM ALL KINDS OF COUNTRIES. BELGIUM, CANADA, ESTONIA, FRANCE, GERMANY, GREECE, THE LIST GOES ON, EVEN SAUDI ARABIA WHICH WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FIRST STOP. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM? >> THERE’S AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE ARE REMINDING EVERYONE THAT ALL THE VOTES HAVEN’T BEEN COUNTED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE LEGAL PROCESSES COMPLIED WITH AND AMERICA WILL DO WHAT IT DOES BEST. WE WILL HAVE A LEADER IN THE WHITE HOUSE AT NOON ON JANUARY 20 AND WE WILL EXECUTE AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY. PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO MAKE SURE OUR ENTIRE TEAM DOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH EVERY DAY. THAT’S WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON. THAT’S WHAT I HAVE MY TEAM FOCUSED ON. THERE’S A LOT GOING ON IN THE WORLD. WE ARE PRETTY FOCUSED ERA ON HER OWN ELECTION. THERE’S A LOT GOING ON IN THE WORLD. >> Bret: YOU ARE ASKED ABOUT THE CONCERNS ABOUT A SMOOTH TRANSITION AND YOU SAID THERE WILL BE A SMOOTH TRANSITION TO A SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. WERE YOU BEING SERIOUS? >> WE WILL HAVE A SMOOTH TRANSITION AND WE WILL SEE WHAT PEOPLE ULTIMATELY DECIDED WHEN THE VOTES HAVE BEEN CAST. WE HAVE A PROCESS IN THE CONSTITUTION LAYS OUT HOW ELECTORS VOTE. IT’S A DETAILED PROCESS. NEED TO COMPLY AND I’M VERY CONFIDENT WE WILL HAVE A GOOD TRANSITION. WE WILL MAKE SURE WHOEVER IS IN OFFICE ON NOON ON JANUARY 20 HAS ALL THE TOOLS READILY AVAILABLE SO WE DON’T SKIP A BEAT WITH A CAPACITY TO KEEP AMERICANS SAFE. THAT’S WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO. I THICKET SUPPORT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE WHOLE WO ADVERSARIES. >> Bret: UNDERSTANDING WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LEGAL ONGOING’S IN VARIOUS STATES AND YOU’RE RIGHT, THE ELECTORS ARE CHOSEN UNTIL DECEMBER 14. BUT THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERN IN THE PAST ABOUT TRANSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DELAYED AND THAT SOMEHOW ON A NATIONAL SECURITY FRONT THAT MAKES THE U.S. WEAKER AT SOME POINT. DO YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT? >> I’M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT AT ALL. I WAS PART OF A POSITION ON THE OTHER SIDE. I CAME INTO AN ADMINISTRATION WHEN I WAS THE CIA DIRECTOR. WE DID IT VERY EFFICIENTLY. IT DIDN’T TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS SOME MIGHT BE PRETENDING THAT IT’S GOING TO TAKE. I AM VERY CONFIDENT. ALL THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WILL BE DONE IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY. WE WILL DELIVER THAT. I WOULDN’T THINK FOR A MOMENT IF I WAS AN ADVERSARY THAT THIS WAS THE MOMENT THEY MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. IT’S NOT THE CASE. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND OUR TEAM ARE ON WATCH. >> Bret: BACK TO MY FIRST QUESTION, IS IT IMPROPER FOR FOREIGN LEADERS TO BE REACHING OUT TO JOE BIDEN? >> IF THEY ARE JUST SAYING HI, I SUPPOSE THAT’S NOT TOO TERRIBLY DIFFICULT. MAKE NO MISTAKE. WE HAVE ONE PRESIDENT, ONE SECRETARY OF STATE, ONE NATIONAL SECURITY TEAM AT A TIME. IT’S APPROPRIATE IT WILL BE THAT WAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE OBSERVED WITH ALMOST FOUR YEARS IN MY TIME IN THIS ADMINISTRATION IS THAT FOLKS REFUSE TO GET OFF THE STAGE. THEY TALK ABOUT HEALING INTO ADDITIONAL THINGS. I HAVE WATCHED BEN RHODES, SUSAN RICE AND JOHN KERRY AND WENDY SHERMAN THE ACTIVE ON THE WORLD STAGE IN WAYS THAT WEREN’T CONSISTENT WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WASN’T DOING. I REGRET IT WASN’T IN AMERICA’S BEST INTEREST THAT THEY CHOSE TO BEHAVE THAT WAY. >> Bret: FOR ALL THE FOCUS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ON INCOMING NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR MICHAEL FLYNN AND HIS PHONE CALLS AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE LOGAN ACT, ARE YOU WORRIED THAT THAT IS HAPPENING NOW? >> I’M ALWAYS WORRIED WHEN PEOPLE ARE ENGAGING IN ACTIVITIES, SPEAKING WITH FOREIGN LEADERS IN A WAY THAT MIGHT BE REPRESENTING THINGS THAT AREN’T TRUE OR MIGHT BE ATTEMPTING TO INFLUENCE AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IN WAYS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES. I KNOW THE LOGAN ACT. I HOPE THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AREN’T VIOLATING OUT. I’M SURE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL BE KEEPING A GOOD EYE ON IT FOR US. >> Bret: FOREIGN POLICY DIDN’T GET A TON OF COVERAGE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. A LITTLE BIT. WHAT’S YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN WITH A JOE BIDEN FOREIGN POLICY? >> I THINK AMERICA’S BIGGEST CONCERN OUGHT TO BE THAT WE WILL RETURN TO A POLICY OF APPEASEMENT. I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION USED THE TERM "LEADING FROM BEHIND," THE ANTITHESIS OF WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE. WE HAVE BEEN REALISTIC. MOVING THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM OR TAKING DOWN QASSEM SOLEIMANI OR REDUCING THE THREAT FROM IRAN OR RECOGNIZING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS THAT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY PRESENTED IN A NORMAL THREAT TO THE SECURITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND FRANKLY JOBS AND ARTY AMERICAN ECONOMY. I THINK THAT THINGS THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID PUT AMERICANS INTO WORSE PLACE. I THINK PEOPLE’S JOBS AND LIVES WERE LESS SECURE THAN THEY HAD BEEN FOR THESE PAST FOUR YEARS AND I HOPE THAT A PRESIDENT WHO COMES INTO OFFICE IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY NEXT YEAR WILL HAVE A MUCH MORE ROBUST, MARKETABLE, MORE CONFIDENT NATIONAL SECURITY APPROACH THAN WHAT THEY HAVE FOR THOSE EIGHT YEARS. >> Bret: WHICH IS THE MORE IMMINENT THREAT? IRAN, RUSSIA, CHINA? >> THOSE ARE HARD QUESTIONS TO ANSWER AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT AMERICA IS PRESENTED OVER THE NEXT FIVE OR
TEN YEARS, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST TEN YEARS, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY IS THE CENTRAL THREAT. THEY ARE HERE. THEY ARE INFLUENCING THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT THE WORLD. THEY HAVE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE VERY CAPABLE. THEY HAVE STOLEN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THAT’S DESTROYED MILLIONS OF JOBS IN PLACES LIKE KANSAS, IOWA, MICHIGAN. WE CANNOT LET THAT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS MADE REAL PROGRESS GETTING THE WORLD TO RECOGNIZE THIS THREAT. >> Bret: SHOULD JOE BIDEN BE RECEIVING THE PRESIDENTIAL DAILY BRIEF, THE CLASSIFIED VERSION? >> I WILL LEAVE THAT TO OTHERS TO SORT OUT WHETHER IT’S APPROPRIATE OR NOT. >> Bret: WHEN YOU SAY IT’S GOING TO BE A SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THE PRESIDENT HAS TWEETED OUT THAT THIS IS A CORRUPT ELECTION, THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION FROM HIM. DOES IT MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE STATE DEPARTMENT IN DEALING WITH OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE WE HAVE TRIED TO SAY TO THEM A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC AND OUR WAY OF VOTING IS THE WAY TO GO. >> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION, BRET. I DON’T THINK THAT’S THE CASE AT ALL. IN MY TIME WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT, WE WORKED HARD IN COUNTRIES ALL OVER THE WORLD TO HELP THEM BUILD ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE THAT THEY HAD TRANSPARENCY, TO MAKE SURE THEY FOLLOW THEIR OWN RULES, THEIR OWN SYSTEMS. THAT’S ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR, TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW OUR OWN RULES, OUR OWN CONSTITUTION, OUR OWN LAW. WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WE NEED TO KEEP PRESSING ON AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERY VOTE THAT WAS LEGAL IS COUNTED AND THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN LEGAL AREN’T COUNTED. THAT’S WHAT WE ASK IN COUNTRIES ALL ACROSS THE WORLD. I THINK THEY SEE IS DOING IT. I THINK OTHER COUNTRIES REFLECT ON HOW AMERICA IS PROCEEDING AND I THINK THEY ARE ENCOURAGED THAT THE RULE OF LAW IS SOMETHING THAT MATTERS. THAT’S WHAT WE ENCOURAGE EVERY NATION ACROSS THE WORLD TO DO. >> Bret: SOME PEOPLE WERE SURPRISED THAT YOUR WEST POINT CLASSMATE, SECRETARY ESPER, WAS FIRED. WERE YOU? >> MARK IS A GOOD FRIEND AND MARK HAS SERVED THIS NATION. WHEN WE WERE CADETS AND HIS TIME IN UNIFORM, I WISH HIM WELL. THE PRESIDENT GETS TO CHOOSE THE FOLKS HE WANTS TO SERVE. I WILL LEAVE IT THERE OTHER THAN TO SAY I’M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THE ENTIRE TEAM THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS HAD FOR MY FOUR YEARS HAS ACCOMPLISHED. HOPEFULLY WE HAVE MORE TIME TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO KEEP AMERICANS SAFE. >> Bret: YOU FOUGHT TO HAVE GINA HASPEL AT CIA. THE FBI DIRECTOR CURRENTLY. DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE CHANGES THERE AS WELL? >> I WILL LEAVE THOSE DECISIONS ABOUT PEOPLE TO THE PRESIDENT. I’M FOCUSED ON THE MISSION. I AM FOCUSED ON WORKING WITH THE TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE DELIVER ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> Bret: OKAY. LAST THING, 2024. DO YOU HAVE ASPIRATIONS POLITICALLY EITHER AT THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND OR A CERTAIN KANSAS SENATE SEAT THAT MAY COME OPEN? >> BRET, YOU KNOW ME BETTER THAN THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING. I AM FOCUSED ON WHAT I’M DOING TODAY. I’LL KEEP AT IT. >> Bret: MR. SECRETARY, WE
Here's an interesting tidbit: Mike Pompeo graduated first in his class at West Point back in 1986
It's like....really? This is the supposed top guy? LOL
Mike Pompeo is disappointing and speaking like a wimpy traitor to the AmeriKKKan people. The AmeriKKKan people deserve The People's Emperor Trump, MAGA God Dynasty, their hearts cry out for this. Mike Pompeo is obligated to help make this Divine AmeriKKKan Destiny happen.
He said December 14th is the day we’ll have an answer.
racist, sociopath evangelical clown . these people don't follow christ or teachings of the bible they are just straight up nuts
American coups failing all over the world, and now, even failing at home.
Pompeo said america will continue to do what it does best. Did he mean to overthrow a democratically elected leader and replace it with one they want?
fat pompeo trying so hard to get his anti china sentiments across he might get an heart attack if he fails on his crusade mission
No one should ever forget all the BS these Trump fascists have said and done the last four years. The State Dept is literally bitching about elections in Tanzania and elsewhere in Africa while fatass retard Pompeo is saying shit like this. It's absurd but Amerikkkans are so arrogant they dont care
Mike Pompeo, the suck up par excellence of the Trump administration (snicker) began to hedging his bet but we must give credit where credit is due, these morally bankrupt sino-bigots have managed to consolidated Chinese everywhere to band together to face down lies and intimidations from the west in any shape or form, and with resolve seldom seen before.