Message To The Trump Family: 'It's Time To Separately Lawyer Up’

TO HAPPEN. >> FRANK, THAT WAS THE WRONG SOUND AND LETS ASK YOU ABOUT THIS FIRST. WE THOUGHT ROBERT MUELLER MIGHT GET DONALD TRUMP FOR SOME TIES TO RUSSIA IF HE LOOKED AT THE BUSINESSES. WE NOW KNOW THAT THANKS -- HE NEVER LOOKED AT THE CONNECTIONS. NEVER LOOKED AT THE CONNECTIONS. THATS THE FRONT END OF THE OUTSIDE. TRUMP SAYING THAT HE WOULD VIEW IT AS A RED LINE IF ANYONE LOOKED INTO HIS BUSINESS CONDUCT OR HIS BUSINESSES SAYING THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIA. MY BUSINESSES ARE OVER HERE. ALONG THE LINES OF HIS ALMOST AN ALLY CALLS IT REPTILIAN INSTINCTS FOR PREZ RATION. HE KNOWS IT IS NOT PRETTY UNDER THE HOOD. FRANK? >> YEAH. LOOK. I THINK TRUMP HAS MISJUDGED HIS EXPOSE YOUR HIRE. THERES HUE BRINGS AND BAD GAMBLING LUCK. WITH FOLKS HE BELIEVED THAT HE -- HE COULD CONTROL THEM. THAT THEY WERE LOYAL ENOUGH TO HIM -- EXCUSE ME, DISLOYAL ENOUGH AND DIDNT TRUST THEM AND NEEDED THE PARDONS. I THINK HE MISJUDGED WEISSELBERG AND OTHERS. I THINK HE THOUGHT HE WAS TEFLON. EMBOLDENED BY MUELLER NOT GOING AFTER FINANCES AND I THINK POLICE PLAYED THIS. THERES TWO TAKEAWAYS FROM THE VERY BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL YESTERDAY. NUMBER ONE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN A CIVIL CASE AT THE A.G. LEVEL IN THE STATE TURNED CRIMINAL? WHEN YOURE TALKING ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IT MEANS SOMETHING MORE THAN THE BARE MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF REASONABLE SUSPICION THAT A CRIME OCCURRED. I DONT THINK SHE WOULD MAKE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT LIGHTLY OR MERELY REASONABLE SUSPICION. I THINK SHE HAS STRONG EVIDENCE, SPECIFIC FACTS THAT SHE IS VERY CONFIDENT IN. NUMBER TWO, THE OTHER PART OF THAT BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT IS THIS COORDINATION EFFORT WITH THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHY WHAT DOES THAT MEAN STRATEGICALLY? WHEN YOURE INVESTIGATING THE SAME PEOPLE AND CRIMINALLY EXPOSED AND SAME OTHER PEOPLE ARE INFORMANTS YOU HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND NOT SPEAK AT OPPOSITE ENDS. YOU HAVE TO OFFER THE SAME DEAL. YOU NEED TO COORDINATE THE INTELLIGENCE AND IF THE SAME PEOPLE ARE EXPOSED YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHOS GOING AFTER TRUMP PERSONALLY? WHOS GOING AFTER THE ORGANIZATION? MAKE NO MISTAKE. BECAUSE ITS AN ORGANIZATIONAL PROSECUTION DOESNT MEAN HUMAN BEINGS IN THAT ORGANIZATION CANT GO TO PRISON AS PART OF THAT CASE. IN FACT, AS PART OF MOST WHITE COLLAR CRIME CASES AGAINST CORPORATIONS THERES HEATED DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE DESERVED TO GO TO PRISON AND WHAT DO THEY LOOK AT FOR THAT? ARE THERE THINGS IN PLACE TO HAVE PREVENTED THIS? IS THIS A ONE OFF? IS THERE MORE SYSTEMIC FRAUD? IS THERE EVIDENCE TO INTENT? MY MESSAGE TO THE TRUMP FAMILY WHO ARE OFFICERS IF YOU DONT HAVE SEPARATE LAWYERS REPRESENTING YOU ON THE ORGANIZATION CASE DO NOT TRUST THAT ONE ORGANIZATION ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTS THE ORGANIZATIONS INTERESTS TO REPRESENT YOUR INTEREST. IT IS TIME TO SEPARATELY LAWYER IT IS TIME TO SEPARATELY LAWYER UP AND YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS THAN BROTHER, SISTER OR FATHER. >> IS THE ENRON PROSECUTION IS EXAMPLE OF A CORPORATION PROSECUTED BUT INDIVIDUALS WENT TO JAIL? IS THAT THE KIND OF INVESTIGATION THEY COULD BE IMAGINING? >> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. THE MAJORITY OF BIG CORPORATE WHITE COLLAR CASES THERES A FINE LEVIED. THEY TRY TO GET IT RIGHT. SLIPPED SLIPPED UP. YOU DONT SEE CEOs AND OFFICERS GO TO PRISON. IF THEY CAN SHOW SYSTEMIC FRAUD, KNOWLEDGE, INTENT, NO MECHANIC

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Length: 4min 54sec (294 seconds)

Published: Wed May 19 2021