Meek Mill Talks Justice Reform, Opioid Addiction, Talks With T.I. Nicki Minaj + More

[Music] you're watching the breakfast club morning everybody is dj envy angela yee charlamine the god we are the breakfast club we got a special guest in the building welcome home meek mill yeah i appreciate it appreciate it welcome back good to see you meek congrats to me coming home i saw your dateline special man in your angie interview it seemed like you you're moving with purpose now yeah i've been moving with purpose though before this different kind of purpose though yeah the support i got when i was in prison though i feel like i should be reaching back and giving out the same support because even a lot of people are on social media y'all screaming free meek y'all got family members in prison this day you know i'm just reaching back the same way people supported me it really gave me a different outlook to see that many people support me at one time of course i know a lot of people was like supporters of my music and stuff like that but when it came to real life and people standing outside in the rain protesting and actually being a part of helping me get back on these streets you know i mean i felt like i i'm entitled to step back get back you been you've been to jail before though why was this time different like what chan like what what what hit you this time like god i guess i don't know i don't know why people came out and stood up for me this way with me with me uh it always was like i have a platform to really speak you know when you speak on stuff and you might just come find a prison people don't really take it the same way even the platforms like the interviews i'm doing there and the platforms i'm getting now it wasn't available to me white white media embracing you it wasn't available to me a year ago you know it was eye-opening though when you went to jail this last time i think for a lot of people because at first the narrative was oh well why why should we feel bad for him he violated his probation absolutely and some people were saying that and i was like well he popped a willy and he ended up violating his probation for something he didn't even get charged with yeah and that's what everybody say though with the internet you do you make one thing that don't look right before people find out the real story they don't judge it anyway but then the real story comes out and we're like wow there's a lot more layers to this and that is the case i think with a lot of people not even just with you but a lot of people that are in jail for violating probation and that brings light to a lot of other people going through things they got somebody like me that got seven lawyers that can't get out of a situation imagine someone who don't have the tight backing that i got going on you know destroy the life and the quickness and they would never get relief from a situation like that basically right now i'm on the street i got a two year sentence right now well a four year sentence right now so for the average person to get relief from a situation like that is like slam to zero percent we talk about it a lot because you know a lot of times from the beginning they give us these horrible deals but we look at it like we'll take this time because we'll take this you don't want to go to the gym because we want to go to jail i was watching your special like damn i did a decade on probation too but i had 10 years old from like 97 to 07. this commonwealth probation is too it's it's different levels to it like you see out here like i had a willie and a bike case they charged me with a felony they knew i was on probation really it's not a f1 fellow neither really a a a motorcycle i went to court i threw out it got turned into a traffic ticket ticket with it what it really was but even though i got it throughout new york i still had to go back to philadelphia and face another judge about willing a bike a case that got throughout and still got sentence on that you know how they say um if o.j simpson admitted to committing a murder he wouldn't be able to be charged again because it's double jeopardy on these situations about how the laws are set up in pennsylvania even if you beat a case like i i always say the starbucks thing starbucks i could have got the same sentence it was nothing different they would have been like he violated he got locked up in starbucks they wouldn't have said in the media when i got locked up in starbucks for everyone you got locked up in starbucks you volley probation you're in jail and people would have been like so what he violated probation you understand what i'm saying so like any interaction with the police you had an incident in the airport too and from my understanding i don't know exactly what happened but they were trying to get a picture you know when you let nobody punch on us like touches i i can't i don't really want to like incriminate the god to that level but we let nobody really do nothing to us you know what i'm saying so even if somebody harasses you and then the police are called that's the interaction with the police and that's going to send you back to jail yeah like i didn't get charged with that i didn't get a crime i got a citation because it was an incident but of course we're in the airport it's on camera i didn't get locked up for a reason you know if you fight in the airport you ain't making your flight i still made my flight i kept it moving i actually was violated for that too now we seen you talk to ti and ti was like i told you uh 10 years ago to do the time would you have done it differently if if you knew what was going to happen now if you just said you know what i ain't taking his 10-year probation well if voter did the time back then i probably wouldn't be here today and had his platform you know what i'm saying even when i was uh dealing with tip he was going to jail he'd get out i'll go to jail he was going to jail it was back and forth because we was both fighting our processes like and it wasn't we was catching new cases of violating that's just the process when you got good lawyers that get you back out when you get sentenced and get you some grace perry and then now you get sentenced so we was going back and forth like that and then the last time he went to jail i was like 20 i was probably like 18 nine i probably was 21. the streets was getting real like i had to like make a move to get out the streets i felt like if i didn't make a move probably would have died i've been in jail for a long time because where i was coming at coming up at the time it was like getting more ruthless in the area so i had to make a move is that why that situation with grand house will never work yeah basically it was it was other little things too it was other people in the middle trying to get you know how you got managers and stuff like they want they want to label them you like i'm just trying to get a deal all right right you want to leave with the i ain't trying to you trying to be baby i'm trying to be lil wayne right now just let me get in the door do what i gotta do and where i orchestrate the business from there on out now you talked about just uh how uh going to jail back then helped you you don't think going to jail this time helped you because you was wilding for you no i went while i i wasn't willing before i went to jail actually a little bit what do you consider though i'm on probation myself when they come to me i don't control people if you feel like knowing something or you got something going on or you disrespect somebody that's right there nowadays i would eject myself from the whole situation because it's a lot on the line but before i'm like yo i ain't got nothing to do with whatever you got going on i ain't getting i ain't under arrest i ain't doing that i ain't calling the shot on that you know it'd just be happening things be happening and i wasn't controlling my vibe i'm going to advise where it's negative vibes going on now i could control the vibe if i go to miami or is memorial weekend or vegas i'm controlling the vibe who i want to kind of meet kind of me i ain't just going to the the five parties and i seen i had all the pictures from instagram in jail i seen a drink from emmy he was like uh all-star just don't feel right without a meek mill after party cause you know we always do like one and we bring a lot of people together but sometimes they bring negative vibes because everybody ain't coming on the same type of vibing you know i was close to some vibes that i could have ejected myself away from them yeah yeah when i wasn't wilding though i was like really if you were watching my interviews before i went to jail there was like it was i was talking sense i'm telling the young boys yo slow down with all these tats on your face percocets man back up we hustlers man let's let's figure let's figure something out basically and you know at that time when i made my mind up i felt like god put me in prison he was like all right this is your real test now we'll put you with the life is in the yard with 2 300 this with a real gangstazetta you wanna be you wanna you know how well like i had like an ego thing going on where i used to just carry myself you know i'm from philly we grow up a little we're a little angry a little bit there's so much going on where we come from uh god put me in that position i'm like all right yeah we actually in here with the lifers on a daily basis this ain't what i want no you're right because the one situation in particular i'm talking about when they jumped on safari yeah they ain't had nothing to do with it i didn't touch them legs in the back yeah but i'm like why would meek me in this video no i was going to the club it was a dj khaled party that's what everybody understand i was going to the club and you know things happen you know how these things go with this music industry and stuff like that but now i'm sure around you people are very cautious like look we're not even trying to have that vibe around you either nobody don't gotta be cautious i gotta be cautious and i call the shots who i have around me is is is key and i'm saying i i had a chance to be like we're in new york let's uh go to breakfast club later in the night we're going to aces uh starlets or something like that no dice it's it's just a little bit different now you hire like a armed security or something i always got armed security i'm talking about real security if somebody got a gun with me they got a firearm permit they're good but i'm telling my security i kind of new york i always tell artists stuff like this you don't like your homie if you had your homie going to new york with a dirty gun oh yeah that's real i'll be having my family with me so i have my homie kind of new york and got to protect me while i run around to a strip club or go to indictment or somebody neighborhood because now i'm putting my homie at risk they're giving out real time for this stuff over here get a security get a police officer security it's it's not nobody could tell me you know in the wrestling state they used to say i don't got no security okay i just came from the state penitentiary i had no security i was good but now i'm on the street i got secured it's not really an eagle thing you can't make me feel like i'm not official because i got security there's no business you gotta protect your interests but they they kept us up early in the game and you know really what's going on everybody really know that's like older than god sense like we was kept up from the beginning and the rules and the structures right was like made to make you fail i go against rules and stuff like i already went against the rules when i decided i wanted to make a lot of money and everybody in my hood was failing and dying and going to prison so i feel like i make up the rules in my world and i i determine what's cool i used to be in jail all right you know a lot of them guys they got a lot they've been in there 10 15 years so they still got the 2001 mind frame and they think oh no this is that this is no you got a cop which that's telling this is man i'm sitting with the governor today man i ain't trying to hear about no was this is this is the system and we're sitting down talking about how can we change laws and and do things and he actually agrees i haven't told him to his face like it's incredible i'm even sitting down with you talking about this you know what i'm saying if i got a platform to do this what i'm gonna do do you feel like real change is about to happen yeah i know real change about to happen in pennsylvania first uh we did a press conference he submitted like an eight law package a reform to change eight laws like far as long-term probation for the governor yeah long-term probation people with life sentences that god put they like a lot of evidence pointing to that innocent if you'd be able to get back in court like real stuff that don't entrap people you know what i'm saying because a lot of people are trapped in the system and it's not it's not right you smoke some marijuana while you're on probation you don't go to jail if if you just disregarding the rules over and over and over you got five dirty yarns for marijuana you're not reporting you're trying not you're not trying to get help i don't know what this next step is for that but but does the governor have that much power because we were sitting there talking it was like the governor is supporting meek mill but they still can't the governor can't get it but i was thinking he could just pardon you within somebody just kidding a partner is different a pardon takes probably a year to do two years of duke it's a process yeah he he's just speaking on like he don't know like he don't know if what's going to happen with my case part is like getting thrown i was locked up by corrupt cop he's just saying that nobody should be on probation for 11 years if you're not a threat to society like you ain't like you ain't at risk of getting locked up from the real stuff you shouldn't be supervised 11 years later especially if you got a job i'm employing people i'm paying taxes i'm doing like regular stuff you know what i'm saying i don't think i should go from playing in the house with my son shackle from ankle to wrist top to bottom within a matter of a second cause i popped the wheel now how hard it is to get that judge off the case that is that seems impossible i've never seen nothing like that a lot she seemed like a scorned x man yeah that's what everybody a few blocks away from my uh family members i don't want to put information out there like everybody should like the young people around her neighborhood i know all of them like him and that's the only thing i could really see that this is something you did dirty something i don't know i ain't i i don't even like i'm scared to speak on that situation is that true i don't know bending me over oh what type of lies that to make up like like who makes stuff up like that right like yo uh envy took me in the back and asked me to redo a michael jackson song over and i'm just like like why would i make that up it's not it's it is what it is you think about it one time i should do this actually with somebody else there they said they don't want to involve they sell funny but you know nicki minaj yeah she definitely was doing how did that make you feel cuz i've seen the interview and i'm like why would she say i wasn't feeling that she shouldn't have said nothing right and we leave it at that i don't feel no way she know i wasn't feeling that anybody know when they kind of freed them and stuff like that i don't care who it is and this ain't got nothing to do i don't care who it is this could be safari this could be anybody if i know some and that man freedom on the line and i could say something that to help the situation and it's right or wrong it's it's just this and that i'm gonna say it i don't really care if i don't say it i just won't say nothing why not send her an editable arrangement of something uh a watch the judge that's illegal yeah you can't send gifts to the children i'm not i mean just to say yo that's whatever and i don't know that that would work and that comes up in court and she says that he sent an edible arrangement like you know but it's clearly a personal that something she got against you yes something now that policy needs to change as far as how can you remove a judge off a case you know how sometimes too like uh tata from that people who told me a long time a long time ago he like yo i know what you're doing with that instagram how you be living how you be flossing he said i see how you trying to inspire and you're using it to catch people the younger eye and inspire i'm like yeah that's my thing because you know with the younger people there's just certain stuff you could do to catch the eye and like when i read a lot of my mail everything was based on me inspiring somebody or me motivating somebody but he was like it's a world of people that's looking at looking at that and it's making them hate you you know what i'm saying he said and i know they're looking at it like his ignorant he said i know what you're doing but he like it's two different sides of that and some people will look down on you like who the hell this kid think he is or he think he's above the law he thinks i don't think you know i don't think i'm about the law if i was about a law i would have never stepped in prison i wouldn't be on probation 11 years i would never follow a rule i don't think like that but that's the inspiration i thought the kids missing that's why i put that out an all-star was like the kids are not seeing that in the way that they were seeing it when i was growing up there was people that we always seen that she was like i want to be like him yeah i mean or somebody i want to do this like them they're not seeing that and what they're seeing now is i want to be a druggie yeah to some extent i want to be tattoos all over my face i want to do that not just the inspiration you know i'm from philly i work my ass off it's easy to get money yeah but he works hard but the main thing is like from reading the mail a lot of these younger people they watch me look failure right in their face they look at any situation i came about in the industry and still like all right what i'm still posting every day what uh my mom got a new house oh damn i just got a new car and i'm using that it's actually a it's it's not a cover-up but it's just like a blanket to like for myself like i'm still doing good even when like everybody like yo this is i had people ask me are you okay about twitter and stuff like that i'm like am i okay what i did time in prison being locked in a room 24 hours a day shackled from the ankle like if you take a step your ankles getting cut type stuff like of course some people it can affect you if you let it affect you but this is not a real problem to where real problems like where i come from a real problem is different than somebody talking about you on the internet and i'm like when i'm stepping on the street i still got a a base of people that showed me a lot of love so i was just letting the love overpower the the negative stuff and really like i see a lot of people like i said when i came home like everything y'all know instagram is you play victim and you win this is the this is the new thing and i i don't really like that because there's a lot of real victims out there that's really going through real stuff like you got people really killing themself and really going through real stuff that they ain't really jumping on that social media because there's so many people doing it now is even if i get on this journey and cry let me get on us in somewhere and be crying about going to prison the thing is i saw when you said that on angie yesterday i'm like damn you can't i'm not you're robbing that gun yeah i'm not really talking about him though i'm talking i'm talking about regular people like even people i know like people i'm cool with i'll be telling don't be put nobody care about that seriously though like even like a lot of people die in our neighborhood you see when they post people on instagram you got everybody posting them and and then a day later nobody really cares nobody really cares about that man got a three-year-old daughter right it's just like a thing to do it's it's it's a it was a thing for certain people like it was a lot of real love and real support but it was trendy to say free a certain person i do that you know what i'm saying and i would say a lot of it is real but a lot of us i don't know i did time and came back was looking at social media like damn i was really like wilding but the inspiration the inspiration should come from what a lot of people don't see is the fact that you sat for so long yeah and was able to still keep your family going like you had enough where yeah you bought jewelry and cars and flew private but you had enough in the stash and enough investments where it was like if something does happen my family's good you never saw none of the dream chasers looking bumpy we do go do real stuff everybody wasn't on top of the world don't don't believe that we had to they just weren't crying about it on yeah it's not yeah you can't what you gonna do you gonna call rick ross yeah we we hustlers first and foremost and like like with us this this ain't no baby this ain't no camp over this john it's not even like with artists i tell the other young artists coming up i'm like yo i'll be boring jerry but i'll be trading that stuff too i got it i've had i've been in the game for seven years i'll make some good trades you might see a watch get poster you might see a jetta i still jump on delta too man this is this serious because y'all know i had up and down points in this rap game i've been one a year without really getting a bunch of money in i'm in the studio locked in trying to dedicate all my time to making some better music than i made last year so i can't really get no money or the judge telling me i can't travel for six months like i can't travel for six months six months in the studio uh uh three months of house arrest i didn't miss two years straight almost called college without even getting no money from paying for lawyers isn't cheap either then i dropped my album i ended up couldn't travel for three more months and then she told me i couldn't travel for three months after i couldn't travel she was like we gonna figure out what you could do after the cases are resolved both of the cases got throughout and i still got locked up actually so it was really draining that was a real thing for me i'm like i'm sitting in here my bill is 60 70 000 a month i'm sitting in prison that's what i was thinking about i got a bunch of watches a hundred thousand go ahead get a hundred thousand for that watch and go pay somebody bills for nine months so you had to do that you had to sell jerusalem i did it but i didn't have to do it i'm a hustler you could people know you could buy my watch on my wrist if you want to say you bought me a man i'll tell you right now go ahead yeah give me such a sec girl you got that i mean i but we posted on instagram for you and all that and i go right back to the store and get another one you know you know the jury investments he knows when can you work again or when can you get back on the road i'm working so you can you can everybody like yo what's up with you man where you rapping what's going on i'm like i'm gonna get to that i'm gonna only been out two weeks first we got dedicated to get my head right i was away from my son my family all that time so there's certain things i had to get in order now this week there was a lot of press and a lot of people reaching out about my situation and i feel like it's only right to reach back like i'm not becoming straight i always tell people like don't go too crazy or meek mel thinking i'm activists straight no i'm representing the cause i got a purpose for something but still at the same time i got to be meek mill and continue to do what i got to do the mission i was on that's what i want to know like with the music are you going you about to be j cole are you going no i can't be j cole j cole or j cole i'm coming i tell people my music i might start talking hurt you know what i'm saying i might talk anger like when tupac was like america eat this babies like y'all gonna make me go crazy i'm still smiling yes that's them thoughts still inside deep inside cause you got to be angry if you've been sent to prison four or five times let's get to the bottom of this y'all think i pointed a gun at two cops no they would have shot you you been dead you think i pointed a gun at two cops i was found guilty for that you see my mug shot dc4 my mother shot i'm thinking like i got a black jaw she's gonna look at my mug shot i'm like what happened to your face casey smith it's not in the top why are you pointing a gun at you casey smith actually one of the cops filed a report said i broke his hand you know how his hand got broke in your face from beating me in the face it was like almost like hilarious to hear him talk about this in court i'm like i know i'm out give me 10 minutes i'll be out this courtroom guilty all charges and i'm like in the world and it's a black this is this a black person too and look this one thing i went when i was when i was speaking was because a lot of people get confused when i was in jail like a big thing one of my biggest topics was like selfie i'm watching [ __ ] rumbling over cookies and like everybody hate each other it's like this is embedded in people's mind you've been like what her i'm like this is justin bieber coming in here in front of a another a white judge dave come on man send justin bieber upstate i don't even think that's an option right because he what addicted to using drugs that wouldn't be an option can you see that no no justin bieber gets sent to a state penitentiary by white not a black judge you can't even see that dawn of him so it's like but that's privilege though but you would think we'd have privilege amongst each other yeah but like but but it's a it's it's it's also a self-hate thing and that's what i was trying to tell people when kanye's speaking he trying to he trying to deliver something but i just you know how to communicate yeah and you got to be you got to be informed like even a lot of stuff he's speaking on is like serious stuff like you can't it's people like behind the walls that's they basically scholars to this stuff and they they've been in prison their whole lives they like take that stuff they're offended by a lot of stuff even i talked to him one day i was like yeah i was kind of offended when i see in a nice way like even when i made a little post i was saying like you inspire me it's upsetting to hear you say certain things that you're saying like 100 when i'm sitting in a cell and i'm watching trump talking about death to drug dealers i got found guilty for selling coke i ain't never sell no coke they only said that i sold cocaine to somebody to get a warrant to run in the house we was in the house that we was in was a lot of trappers in there but nobody wasn't trapping in and out of the house it was just my cousin house he got case money they see us coming in and out they want to get inside i was the rapper at the time the hot person in the street they charged me with everything basically if i would have got charged and found guilty you said yeah but kanye don't know none of that he need to go visit a prison go see what's going on go see about people that's working for ace in an hour go see some people in here raising little kids in a visiting room you get raised in the visiting room you ain't gonna have no problem with going to jail and for later on in your life you don't have an option i have an option if i grew up in phn or not i grew up in p i was born in pha public housing this is where i was born in this neighborhood with dope needles on the floor and crack violence everywhere and everybody everybody i see is like it's a sickness going on and i i'm gonna talk about self-hate even in my music when you hear me still talking about violence drugs and it's still all form of self-hate all right like a guy in jail he was like that lady she a slave chaser i said he said you're a dream chase i said what you mean by that he said you trying to run from the plantation he said you made it far you made it 34 30 miles out he said they sent her to chase you down y'all could have both got away she grabbed you and dragged you all the way back y'all went so far that and that's how i view it for real for like man come on a threat to the community all but threat to community for what even if i ever got in a fight any a threat to the community that stuff you use like i was locked up with guys i read their paperwork these like my bosses and big gang leaders where they people were the district attorney said there was a threat to community where do i fit in this mess i employ 10 15 20 people on a daily basis family's depending on me i'm not perfect i'm not an angel i come from a ruthless environment where i was raised wild now i'm tamed and i i know how to move i'm better i'm i'm not in this environment 24 7. so i don't think that way no more so you know i mean i'm a threat to the community a flight risk go on the run i was watching the dateline special it seemed like she gave you some breaks throughout the years though i ain't get no break because i ain't point no gun at no cop i shouldn't know we should never go but no black and this for anybody that's in the courtroom because now i'd be i could i just feel like i could speak any black judge and just go for any any race judge some cops coming there talking about somebody pointed a gun at him at night time and ain't a single shot fired nobody's hit you were supposed to kill me if i aim to go like if i read my transcripts nobody the media ain't getting that he pointed a gun at me he chased me around the car like what come on stop for what in the d.a like he wanted to protect his drug operation how can you protect the drug operation at this time i got locked up i had 13 hours in my pocket i was a brooks [ __ ] in the house you see when i had the nappy bridge basically i was dusty at the time protect the drug operation i'm unprotected if i'm gonna get shot 45 times you'll get shot from pulling out of cell phones what about the failed drug test though yeah i actually was addicted to drugs i got addicted to the drugs along the lifestyle you become famous and you become the only one from your family tree that's seeing money out of your whole area it's a lot of pressures that come with that like a lot of these celebrities they come with precious money i got a fat stomach i don't need lightbulb now i'm gonna get in the gym no seriously though like but everybody goes he put everybody got their own battles that's why i was saying battles when people don't just i'm not even married how'd you start with that with the opioids i i was actually going to the dentist and i was i uh took i got two of my wisdom teeth pulled and i started taking them at the time later on a girl gave me a perk yeah that's gonna make me he's gonna have you going in for the [ __ ] though right now ain't no philly [ __ ] no hell philly what i thought they'd be on paper papa perkins everybody take perk city the city you crazy yeah y'all what drives y'all i think these little kids talking about on these records molly you know whatever that is yeah no we see me i never had molly in my life on that's a man-made drug i thought it was okay i wouldn't be addicted i wouldn't hurt me because it's a it's a pill that the doctor would prescribe you and you know a girl gave it to me one day yeah this is gonna make you [ __ ] for an hour this is that yeah let me try this this is a pill that the doctor gave me if i got a two feet why you got that kind of time me the [ __ ] for an hour yeah sometimes you gotta go overboard i make girls fall in love with me all pretty perky says it's serious so uh i actually got a my body is like a body house basically dope in the pill that's what i was saying other interviews before i went to jail it's dope in the pill and we came up amongst the drug game and watching people mothers and aunts being melted by drugs so we really know the effects that it really do to people and we hustlers we was we i wasn't bored up like that like a lot of people even if you were in the hip hop game our families we weren't brought up like that even if your mom was on crack your dad was on crack you knew better watch it yeah just seeing that like you see somebody you ever see your friend mom sell a sega you're like y'all play the sega every night my friend mom sold his sega like i came over his house like yo let's play the game he was it broke his heart he now he about to go sell some coke he went by his own cigar now you know what i'm saying so we knew like the real effects of it you know i just thought that it was just a pill that the doctor could prescribe you and i got addicted and it wasn't like a mental thing like it's like when you don't take it your body's shutting down right so they ain't like even the laws that with the governor they like if you're addicted to opioids just like heroin addicts all types of it's an addiction you shouldn't go to jail for addiction you should be in rehabilitation because in jail they got the same drugs they got on the street in jail i had a choice if i wanted to take percocet smoke weed or do anything me i thought that was a waste of life you already like the walking dead the land of no responsibilities why be hot okay what made you get help what made you say i got i'm gonna put myself in the rehab with this uh i had a po i had got a new p.o my last pillow she was like black she was ex she was like kind of ghetto screaming like just talk to you crazy ian lavon's not type [ __ ] what's that oh you know it's my name you never seen her no she's worse than what no i don't this it's a whole nother she wasn't trying to help can i go see my son what no you can't go see your son yo why you talking to me like this man like you just a probation officer and i'm saying like you're like on a you're a lower person but like you have a job just like we all have what what what i'm like all right miss i'm not telling her i got no drug probably she's gonna send you first thing smoking they moved me to montgomery county montgomery county suburban area where like people got money at like so the probation officers and stuff they're used to hearing that they don't care about no meek mill coming up in here here rapper my peel probably never seen my instagram probably once or twice and somebody probably showed her mr williams you had a dirty yarn you want help i'ma ask you right now i want you to be straightforward with me yeah i won't help right now but i don't want to be in a program amongst 50 people and got to explain my business as a public figure in front of 50 people because i'm not going to really deal with the problem and i she was like all right we're going to work things out and usually in philadelphia if if i said something like that they'd be like no he trying to get over on the system right i had a i had some doctors come to my house in in in atlanta where i was standing at give me ivs like you got to flush your body and like readjust your body done deal never took a percocet ever again in my life because that wasn't really me you know what i'm saying it always was a battle i never did perkins that straight through my whole probation but sometimes stuff got rough this is where it was at even as all musicians to make music you dig deep like you dig deep down like i don't know people know like uh prince we died from opioids it was percocets um that was he was a victim he wasn't a criminal he shouldn't have went to jail he would have got court taking him you shouldn't have went to jail he was a victim was the was the [ __ ] you [ __ ] for an hour worth it yes it was extremely worth it it was serious i felt like i had to work harder now do you miss nikki no damn why you go from what's the [ __ ] good to you [Laughter] personally i thought that was a great thing like look i don't got no problem with her though that's my whole thing like i make that known like being i was at points where i was like a little out of character and going because i'm getting high i'm going to places where i'm out of calgary i don't got no problem with her anybody you've seen i had a problem with all that is clear in my mind which is that you have a clean slate now no problem yeah with me unless you trying to bring these things to me and i can't escape but i'm i ain't gonna run but that's different than street beef though that was a relationship yeah uh well uh i been they had no problem with i stated that before i was supposed to come to breakfast club last time i was late mm-hmm i would have stated the same thing before i went to prisoners i don't have a problem with somebody i used to love and somebody i was in a relationship with have y'all spoke i know she made some comments what was that interview she did with zane lowe that was the one where that's what i was talking about i asked her about being there and stuff like that she said she is she said the judge did the right thing or something like that something to that effect yeah i don't know what she was talking about right there i don't know that judge is the right thing no when you speak about none of that no now what about um i see you you and y'all y'all cleaned up y'all y'all your beats before you went in yeah well i like your family and i mean that's the first people i started making money with getting rich with so you know what i mean we just had to we got we we had to make like an agreement like yo anything going on man all that public because when i was going my little rap thing he was like man mika mcdonald i'm like yo call me and tell me that first even if if somebody see me if you see me like bidding with a rapper or something on instagram nine times out of ten i talked to him about that first on the phone like hey what you doing in public and we laughed about it and i went on my phone and did something funny all i said something talk to me it was just basically on that and that's why i'm like damn you just he was speaking about me uh me and nikki and like an interview and i'm like i would never speak on my homies and their girlfriends in no interview especially without talking to them about it and that it just offended me a little bit you know me i'm emotional if people say he's too emotional because if it could have been times i'm on probation my freedom went online i got a son and a mom in the house somebody jumping you in the fight you think i'm gonna jump in there while later there you think i'm gonna let him get rolled on hell no it's never gonna happen nowadays i got new boundaries with like i can't really help anybody except for my family but at the time i'm emotional because i go all out for people that's like good with me and if i see anything i'm just like especially if i was high at the time first thing i don't even think i just react of rip so yeah that's what it was that's my brother though what about um drake reached out no i ain't talked to him yeah i seen him on like facetime the other day they was with rugs and it was good energy even like from he shouted you out though yeah i was about to say that that was good energy he put good energy in the air what happened what happened we moved past that i think we'll have a conversation this time when we see each other and get it going and keep it moving in life i would think that drake would reach out because it seems like he wants to really make men's i don't feel like he went to it just that it's like that's grown man yeah you mean it's been two years two years how long should this be going on and and still moving yeah what about i'm still standing on my feet he's still standing on his feet what you do at this point well we get the roster man because cause even during that time i spoke to you since then why didn't you reply back immediately though that's what we was waiting because i was sitting back and just monitoring the internet i'm trying to figure out the internet that's a whole new world to me like well we rap it's like you go in you say what you want i'm on the internet they calling my p.o i've got bloggers talking about and threatening drake i don't even know how to talk no more what i'ma say when we battling out her we want to make you look in the mirror and be like am i a real [ __ ] dang this dude just said what about my sister my mom you know how i was in my era it confused me i'm like let me step back and see what's going on i just stepped in the world i don't even know how to handle this the way that i would usually handle it even like something like a war pain or something like that it's like it's it's what we do at its finest but in a world of the suburbs is taking over rap do you all know this and that was a part of the process like at the time where not not from him but the suburbs been taking over rat for the last four or five years so i had to address i definitely i definitely just walked my way back if i was here and things slowed up and took me here i'm like [ __ ] i'm gonna walk step by step i'm hot i'm gonna keep it going i'm watching people meet me done it's impossible for me to be done i came in this game based on talent uh through the philly era this was like pit bull season like you were this like where the murder moocs the loaded looks you gotta make it through stuff like this with people that make you cry you'll be walking in the house holding your heart at night and i made it through them things and that was just another obstacle that i looked right in the face and walked through it while mine's raining raining fire outside put my jacket on and walk to the next destination did he really have back to back playing through the hotel one day when he was there no i don't know about that oh no now what about roy he was in like wild out mode at the time like nine times out of ten you heard something nice speaking on him in the past if you hear something about me nine times out of ten it's not really true it never really went that way i try to really stay like yeah they said it was a that you and nicki was in the hotel he was in the floor above you playing yeah playing back the back he said that no wonder i'm looking for a revenge yeah i don't know i was i was we went to toronto that time like we was on tour no i would have nothing like that i asked about royals cause they said that you know one time you and ross weren't seeing eye to eye and i guess they said when i i thought it was they said it was the time when you you pieced things out with 50. and ross was mad about that was that ever true i never heard that from ross we never had that situation and me i look at it as if if ross was to go talk to drake or somebody uh anybody that that's that's rapper stuff man i come from like real deal with like you got a problem with somebody somebody got hurt somebody died and that was that i'll be on real type of time i tell 50 to his face hitting yo all this stuff we run into each other we crack we crash you got people with you i got people with you we both make money we both doing our thing we actually feed people and employ people let's start playing games with each other like we're ready to go to prison for 55 years that's not even really an option for rappers and that go to if that goes for anybody i see game tomorrow whack won't have any of them yo let's talk on the side let's add some words yo look this is this one i'm on i don't know what you want and i kind of i think everybody would be in the same place i just came from the penitentiary with life was where people made one mistake and they got life in prison or they homie start squeezing that gun and they had nothing to do with and they got conspiracy got 25 30 years that's not really what none of us really want and the way you go about that is it's totally different like i look you look at every other genre of music ain't no rockstar squeezing on the other rock stars ain't nobody getting shot in different genres country music or nothing like that so it's like [ __ ] be scrapping all day yeah they'll be getting it down i ain't gonna lie they're probably some of the toughest guys right now what about beanie uh beanie i seen being here the other day we had our words yo what's up you good uh love man happy to see you home that was that that was a small misunderstanding that was another component to somebody else it wasn't really based around me but you know the media even like what with my my judge she would see media stuff like that and not understanding that we are from the same area we all from the same neighborhood and i'm with y'all too but i came to the club with you and y'all to start fighting and now i'm in the middle of i could be breaking it up with something more anything happened meek mill and his homies fighting charlemagne but really i just came with him but y'all two got a problem you understand and it was small misunderstanding then he passed that being he ordered me i looked up to him coming up my whole life it's not a secret i've been saying this throughout that whole situation what is the point right where do we get with this it's really people sitting in jail with life is actually people in the graveyard that died over a lot of stupid [ __ ] for decades and i'm saying what is going on we got to figure something out at one point and that's what everybody like i even i watch all the young boys i be first time i see them in person and ain't around 100 people yo man look you don't want that i told bobby smyrd a long time ago actually the day before you got locked up was the day before you got locked up you came to see me i just came home yo all that gang banging and 100 dudes around you on camp i said them people will put you under the jail somewhere and nobody ain't gonna be able to see you next day we looking at the news he locked up i still answer the phone for bobby's murder to this day no matter what i got going on i talked to rowdy bobby they called on the three-way i'm still going to give them the same words and and that's just why that's where i'm at with it i think that's like where hole was at ten years ago with like with the younger rap you look everybody looked up the hoof all the young guys whether they said or not a lot of these guys i feel like they look at me a certain way and i feel like i can voice my opinion i've been through everything i ain't got to fabricate nothing i don't got to act like a certain type of way a certain type of person i feel like i could just get that type of game out and they're going to look at it a certain way their opinion on somebody like a takashi 69 i would tell them the same thing i told dirk and them i would tell them the same thing i told bobby's murder i tell dirk yo slow down on that chicago man i'd be having about 60 people getting killed in two weeks i'm like go to atlanta somewhere like go to don't don't turn your back on your community still like do what you can from you could do that from a distance you could take care of people from a distance because if you end it full-fledged and you get killed everything is canceled everything is over with so i would tell him the same thing i tell all them other young boys man it's i ain't trying to i don't lost endorsements already i don't i don't love going to jail you be like damn that 2-3 million dollars was paying all my bills now you're spending your money it's like it's it's it's pointless what you lost cause your puma's still sticking by you right yeah everything is great in 2018 2017 is a little different yeah for 2017 i was like on my walk back 2016 when everybody like oh you got this going on oh wait wait no more they talking about them on instagram what they know is it's we were still studying and learning instagram like yo all right we talking about this this week two weeks later we're not talking about that not even two weeks nowadays two hours yeah basically that's what it is now but companies looking at that like oh he's a bad look for our company but now i think it is like when they see all right what drake the biggest thing in music i got i had something going on with the biggest thing in music he got the real corporations with him you you putting money on the line everything had threat i'm still standing through it uh relationship public relation it was like kind of out of pocket everything is they got uh she got a lot of fans i'm still standing um it's interesting though because like mainstream america got introduced to you because of the drake beef then the nicky relationship and now it's like through the criminal justice reform you're like a spokesperson for that yeah they still don't know me they do the i feel like the coaching on me and the game is based off of the culture i don't even think anybody can make music without addressing the the core culture first like you can't really make a good album that's like a solid album without addressing the real culture first this is where it started even even like a lot of i used to look at the comments i go to the pages sometimes because i was like damn he really think this like what hey i go to the cop that page and i'll be looking like he don't even look like he ever listened to my music he don't know who i am he just like on the internet i went against somebody that he like and he just at me you know what i'm saying like the late like steph myers the late night host like that you don't even know who that is bro i don't even know who that is i swear i don't no disrespect either i don't i don't really watch tv how did you get so tight with the owner of the 76's michael grubbin uh all the white people yeah that's him i was watching youtube the other night they like he's a clone he's down with the illuminati i watch every last one of them too i'm like yo man what the hell like in the world where we come from to be doing something good like you got to be down with some type of organization uh yeah some double like soul right i i talk about it like and that was that that's what also slowed my career i would never like submit to being a certain way you know like when i alan irishman was like uh they was like you can't wear these certain type of clothes basically what he was addressing like what type of clothes are these like we know in the mafia they wear suits these real killers gangs they wear suits what why is these i understand your pants sagging you got your underwear showing and stuff like that but what type of clothes are these like what what do this jewelry you can't wear jerry to what what does this rap this is our culture right so basically what we're saying how you know all these white people oh yeah basically i met mike i was at the all-star game i'm sitting next to him so i'm taking a lot of pictures and after a while he's like who are you like i rap him for philly he's like oh i'm from philly too i own the sixers in my head i'm clicking bing money i'm just thinking as a hustler not how i can come up off of him i just turn around like uh i asked him was he self me he was telling me yeah he self made he came up flipping his bar bar i missed for money and i was like at what point you got from two three million four five million to 500 million like what was the transaction what type of moves you made so we started talking he was like i like the questions you asked me i asked jay-z stuff like that too what's the most money you've seen in cash what's your what's the craziest thing you've ever seen i just do that because you lose 72 bricks and get it all back yeah that's the type of stuff i'll be on so i'd be like if i hear from somebody i know and i know as the truth i believe that i can achieve it when you actually standing with somebody like yeah i made seven billion dollars last week you know in your head is positive well me it makes me like it give me a drive more so you know we start building a relationship and we start going out having fun doing it you know i like to uh i like to shoot them things all the time and the casinos blackjack oh yeah oh yeah people watching these interviews now like what but really blackjack they would be around and we i'd just be having fun i always would win i always win win-win we started hanging out going to all the games and we just built a relationship and then i was telling them i got to go to court like even we'd be on the plane and robert crabb was on a plane one day and you know i started addressing i don't know why i just started talking about deep [ __ ] i just like something they was talking about uh i think pilot i think he was talking about the president's son i was like do you know we don't even care about that whole type of like we don't even care about politics he was asking like why i'm like because it won't affect our people probably for the next 20 years so we don't really get really deep into it like well me i don't really get deep into it because i don't feel like the things they talk about on mainstream media addresses my community i just was in jail watching every source of media on tv i know about stormy daniels top to bottom i know everything about her life i know her husband name all types of i don't know his name right now but it was it knew it was nothing about my life and um we just was talking about real stuff and i was just addressing a lot of things and i don't think them guys have people come around them and just be acting like themselves like i don't go around them and gotta act white if i got my friend with me from the trap if we getting in the chat he coming by the way yeah and everybody is you shouldn't go around any raise a person and feel like you below you know what i'm saying and anytime i've always been around h always i thought it was actually amazing for billionaires to treat you with the ultimate respect because you know in our world you get one two million you got raps they won't speak to you it really put me in a whole different mind frame like yo these dudes got everything under the sun hey you want something yeah you all right you good it's just like with proper manners and i know a few it's a lot of good rappers that that make a lot of money and treat people with respect like that yeah jay-z jay-z actually responsible for some of my legal fees which i thought was like the dopest in the world because it was the millions of dollars i don't even think i could have afforded it we tried to help but he was like they took care of it we was like we were going to start a formula it's like now it's taking me definitely ain't need to start no fun like that no meek mill go fund me we got we got bags sitting around everywhere now you said for the past two weeks you've been concentrating on being with your family and then uh making sure that you have a voice for the voiceless yeah so what about the music now when uh actually i'm jumping in the studio immediately my actually i had a lot of stuff to do lined up about press but my engineer when i was going he got eaten he got a girl at home so you know what i mean i'm going he make solely money off of me he ended up getting a new job and atlantic started getting assistance uh paid more so when i came home i ain't gonna tell him just stop what you're doing you know we're going to get the leg come on man match my man get him right we get back in the studio and do what we doing actually i was running around at the same time like i ain't rap for eight months when i was in uh two months i couldn't travel before in six months i was in prison i ain't rap the whole time so you know i just been getting hungry and building my hunger up so when i go in the studio i like 20 30 songs in two weeks it ain't gonna be long before i start going off did you get a hunger how you lose all that weight so fast man when you came home was it two weeks ago [Applause] my face was actually fatter than this probably my face probably still fat but seeing my face with the clothes on like that it just looked like i was super fast everybody thought i was going to come out looking like gucci no i was stressing i mean eating up a storm just trying to take my mind off the world because the trans it's a culture shock man when you come from doing what you want and then being shackled like people don't understand like they're just like here in jail no you really i'm a celebrity so when i first come through they got me locked in 24 hours shackle like they got this it's a box that go around your arms that connect around your waist that go all the way down to your feet and when you use the phone like they put you in a small cage like you can't even turn like it's different when you're waiting though right it's just that's the policy yeah it's the whole the whole got policies you got people that kill people in jail everything so i'm like a high profile person i'm just at this situation so it was it was it was really mind-boggling so when i came home i was just suggesting you know i think about i came home on a helicopter i was actually in the cell watching the news meek mill is up for bell i'm like what i jumped up the lady was like we was actually locked in she came to myself and like pack your stuff we getting you out of here because we don't want no commotion when we got out we rolled like a half a block i was looking out the window to the side i'm looking at the fans i'm like people really waiting outside for me to get out of jail i'm still like humbled by that i can't believe this i'm surprised you packed anything up i was like cause you know you got real scheme all right this dude's got 30 40 years in no contact with family they want to write they would steal your mail write your family members back and try to get one of your overweight cousins and like you understand what i'm saying like people focus on stuff like that and try to like take advantage that's gonna get one of your fat cousins no like they would try to they would try to not not like that they would try to like target people who think take advantage who they think that they don't have high self-esteem and they would just try to take advantage and i'm not saying let's get this player in this interview i love big women all my cousins oh my all my cousins that's big all my family members that's big they got high self-esteem they come right right we don't play them type games in my family ain't no you you and that's it we gonna love you for you you you you do what you want you better bag a billionaire if you can do whatever you want to do but guys in them situation you can't leave your mail they like plotting right they see you and your girlfriend going through something through the jail phone that's still your mail he's cheating on you while you're in they do i'll tell you so i had to pack my mail and uh uh i went outside i went straight to helicopter to the game i was overwhelmed i went in the house i didn't sleep for two days did you want to do that did you really want to go to that game that night yeah of course i would yeah why wouldn't i i didn't if you want to go home i didn't really care my mom my mom invited my mom to the game my mom is like she happy to hear me stepping out of the cell to see me like we come from a real trap like a single parent your mom at work eight hours a day your dad in the graveyard like i take care of my mind after see her it's fun to see me walk out the door you see me i'm on the phone i'm on facetime with my mom like most of the helicopter ride my son is meeting me at the game it was like a once in a lifetime experience huh and i like that i like doing things that like would never really happen again so i was i definitely was with if i wasn't i'm like yo mike take this helicopter drop me off in my house even like all right okay and that was that did you watch the super bowl how did you watch this ball did you watch it in my cell it was two moments super bowl and beyonce saying free me that was the two days that i wasn't in jail how sick was you watching the suit bowl thinking about all the festivities of the week i wasn't sick because it was in minnesota it was like it was snowing out nobody no parties ain't really cracking like that like gel like it make you jealous it'd be like it could be memorial weekend and it rained you'd be like all right it's raining everybody really all having fun without me but i i i was really happy for real for i was happy that the fact that eagles was in the super bowl and i was happy the fact that an organization like that was supporting me you know what i'm saying that's that's where i come from that's heavy they have like a a national sports team to support you through a time like that playing your song and everything yeah yeah that was different for me i ain't never seen that when the khaled song dropped and you heard beyonce's verse i played that journal back like i know beyonce ain't single [ __ ] like this uh like i had to play it back again like what did she tell she in the hood of screaming free meek and i i look at that as like that's mega support from jay and beyonce because they don't have to say you know beyonce ain't shouting no [ __ ] out in jail i took that it was like damn guy really working in my favor you got b talking about free meek mill that was like that was a great day like listen to the song jay-z and jay is my man so i'm kind of getting used to the jay-z thing jay shout me out i'm like damn i'm amped right then as the song going on like i'm listening to beyonce she said it's free me i'm like damn this jmb and the support like that to put you on that platform and get you that type of support these people got a lot of influence they basically helped me save my life you never know how that influences somebody else listening like yeah hell yeah even the crab crab came to see me in prison that was a real deal like he had to take time out he never even been in the prison he's been a billionaire for a long time you ever been in the prison seat and no i didn't and i'm breaking down real stuff and these people they ain't just coming around just pulling up when the cameras out some big things about to happen some real big things about to happen that's gonna that's gonna be surrounded by reforming justice and you know you need money to do this type stuff you need big foundations to participate in this type stuff for actually like my case it was a lot of investigators my lawyer told y'all when he was here there was a lot of investigators and people like in the in the middle of my case bringing things to the light and and with justice for like people who don't have the resources or the money they need these type things to get out of prison and we we we're working on the organization right now and that's it's gonna be bad and you have the docu-series that's starting right yeah with amazon i'm actually just addressing this not like the 13th but addressing the same things the third team's address talking about a mass incarceration and probation parole and basically i'm a public figure i'm a rapper where using my platform where we could open more eyes if we talk about my topic and uh and really put shed more light on the situation we got to go too so oh wait when you when you see this don't go i don't i'm having a ball when you're sitting in jail and you get tragic news like black bull passed away yeah that was crazy for me that was like even the raw situation the black boat situation my grandmom died one of my grandmoms died while i was in there uh a friend of mine got killed it was like i was living in a movie i actually was watching the tv show with rick ross i i was talking i i talked to people when they told me about blackboard dining it hurt me but i didn't really feel it because i didn't see it then i seen the tv show with ross uh friend friend lonzo was on the shirt he had like an r.i.p black [ __ ] on it and then it really really hit me and then like two days later phil had sent me a victory or a black boat so it was just like it's suffering when you're saying stuff like that for a minute that's why technical violations you shouldn't be going going to jails people in there for technical violations and their mom died while they was in prison and they couldn't make it to the funeral that would scar you forever like stuff like that would have you angry like will make you hurt somebody you don't even know why you heard it somebody like you you ever see the guy in the hood he just like everybody screaming goons and demons and all that nah for real for are you hurt bro you really got a problem going on your mind might have died when you was younger your dad might have got shot too uh yo you couldn't get jordans things like that a lot of people are really hurting and seeing a lot of bad things traumatized from being in ruthless environments and really got something going on but the only way we was taught to express ourselves through anger like even with black people when we talk about slavery you got to remind you got to go all the way back not just to the surface of the problem go all the way back to slaves housing slaves and uh the way that the system was created to make slaves hate each other and that carried on for yeah am i saying it right i mean slavery was a choice because i i know you don't say that what about yourself as far as as trauma i know having gone through what you went through i've been traumatized man my pop guy smoked when i was five i seen i have asked lester who i don't know if they got it on i i seen i didn't see the exact whole show because i was watching on the boat and it was a lot of noise i asked him like they were saying something like why would you carry a gun because mainstream america like he carried a gun before he's a criminal no you had to carry a gun ain't no choice if you bring anybody to my environment if we go to my environment right now i go sit on my grandma's steps for six hours straight y'all gonna leave y'all ain't gonna stay there you're not and it's a point in your life where you can't leave when you're 15 years old and you're coming out every day people getting murdered left and right this is what you're seeing you could be in the army for three months and see somebody get killed in the bush uh one of your cadets you probably knew him for a year and a half what about the little kid you grew up with this guy playing nintendo you see him five years later with his brains blown out on the curveball you see your brother what is i don't have ptsd of course these guys smoke marijuana and stuff like that to sit back and like really relax and i think it worked like it's people need medicine for stuff like this but you we get up in there you was carrying a gun you're a criminal you're going to jail for this many years but no i've seen 13 people get killed coming up in my life you don't think except trauma you got ptsd it's not even trauma it's real life like have you ever been in the hood i talked to my homie ty i was like ain't it crazy we really was scared and not scared like scared of people like you might get out your car and go walk in your house you got to have your key ready in your hand to slide right in your door so you just be like get in the door and shut the door really you running from death you thinking like you're trying to get in the door so you don't get murdered this is the neighborhood you grown up you grew up in why should you feel like that is it is it is it my fault for feeling like this is it my fault to not be able to depend on a cop saving you think if somebody tried to come get the drop on me back in the streets a police officer would be there to save my life i seen people getting murdered and thrown in body bags in the back of paddy wagons and heard their mom screaming that was the end of the story about therapy uh i took therapy my probation officer actually put me in therapy when uh i did the rehabilitation but i want to do the therapy show is to show everybody be doing with the older guy on vice yeah i like that show i like vice a lot i like that show the guy he'd be doing therapy cause i'd really be wanting to explain like the things that i went through to make me think the way i think i go every friday three o'clock my brother yeah all right all right i i gotta get comfortable so i probably need like a pretty therapist somebody that i would love to enjoy time with and like just and talk for real somebody with a good conversation that's all yeah they got to be smart too but that just would make things even better because you would make sure you make it there on time every three o'clock every saturday and do what you got you gotta affect you now even when you when you come home you still gotta have those mental thoughts like i don't ever know who somebody might have to drop on me now yeah i come from being in the yard i'm in a yard on yard out i ain't in there with nobody don't like he acting tough he got all them guys with him he's traveling with the enter and here it ain't no entourage this is straight robert williams state number state boots yard out there's two 300 dudes in here they've been lifting weights for 17 years straight they big as a biggest silverback gorillas i had to stand in the yard so my instincts my mind is always like you gotta watch for the tech growing up in the world gotta watch for the tech wearing jewelry you definitely gotta watch for the attack i even watched all the raps my chain my chain my chain man [ __ ] [ __ ] trying to take your life out this journey that's what's really going on for real frill and it's and it been that way with people that come from my coach and i always had that mind frame that's why and by the grace of god you ain't never really see me getting caught out there in a situation because i come from an environment where they always plan they plan you got to pay the ultimate price and the ultimate price you pay is death so with the rap industry people trying to punch you in your face take your chain i'm already kind of my mind is already set to play chess for that you know what i'm saying that's why i'm able to navigate and really move in and out in them type situations but now i just think i'm creating boundaries and the way i'm presenting myself is washing a lot of energy away from me too how'd you explain everything to your son because i know you wanted to make sure that you were honest with him and he knew what was going on but they was telling my son uh yeah dad in school i talked to my phone i i let like two weeks go by because i'm trying to figure out if i'm i always had in my head like i'm getting back out of jail my son ain't gonna know about this right after a few weeks when i'm in jail son i'm in jail oh you told him over the phone yeah what you want why are you in jail riding dirt bikes uh just i couldn't really explain i just explained the dirt bike to him i didn't want to introduce him into drugs uh he was like wow we ride dirt bikes every day we live my son live in the suburbs where like all our neighbors got their kids got dirt bikes and they loud we're riding them on the street it's illegal to really ride them on the street it's not a crime but it's a traffic violation for ryan i'm on the street we in a neighborhood where like it's everybody does it yeah it's regular i see when you be out with your kids you got to go it's not just motorcycles like yeah you could get they could like how i got arrested they could do that but it's not really y'all got your own rules in your neighborhood y'all good yeah but i'm sure he hears a lot of things too like is he asking you questions like after you came home yeah the biggest thing was my son i suspended while i was in school and i really felt offended behind him because my son never got to spend it from school here in first grade and him hearing that his father in jail and everybody actually supporting his father from being in jail he think that in his head well i assume that he was thinking that being a bad guy is kind of like cool even my son told me another thing i'm gonna be bigger than i'm gonna be big like take k i had to tell i want to take k locked up for a double homicide right now pop what you talking about being big like tk my mom i don't know the little kid uh you know yeah you get old man y'all know who take care damn that's crazy that's a little young guy he got the song [ __ ] a beat i was trying to be the case but i ain't beat the case he i he he had a song he went on a run and made a song about the song and he ended up being locked up for two murders but all the little kids like him my son like i'm gonna be big like him my mind was in the background like you say you being big like your dad you talking about take care basically i'm like papi yeah tk booked up for a double homicide for some real stuff but my son don't know any better he like all the younger kids i think he loved he loved like little little uzi little skies who that little guy i was locked up for those guys i don't know who that is yet uh like all the younger guys he loved them type people i don't knock him he growing drugs right now i'm just like you ain't getting no color oh boy uzi has some black dress the other day you like don't let your singing no colorful dress i'm like you want drugs because of you [ __ ] you gotta tell him now and that really gotta turn the uzi be like yo when you see poppy telling man get your dress black cause he wants next thing you know he's gonna want some tattoos on his face but that's what they watching on that youtube the owner of philly said he said uh he said you won't admit to this but he saw you cry a little bit when um yeah yeah hell yeah i put that under the uh what's the kid named shiggy he had a uh instagram post the other day he was like when gangsters cried like this i was like yeah when i got my 2-4 that's how i was i'm watching my whole freedom it ain't like look you can't really i don't live by what people live by like i've been in my own friend's funeral and ain't drop a tear because that's how that's how cold i was at life at that point in life i'm not at that point no more i might see a little a cat get ran over by a car and might feel some type of way about it five years ago i wouldn't feel no type of way about it cause i probably just seen one of my schoolmates get murdered in cold blood i can't feel sorry for no cat i can't watch tv when they talk about somebody left their dog on the airplane i can't at some point i couldn't feel seriously i couldn't have sympathy for that right i'm like yo they talking about a gorilla on it on the news for a week a little girl gets just got shot in her head in my neighborhood it ain't even make it to news they talking about a gorilla for a week in our eyes and make me not value myself like they don't really care about us and when kanye's saying like people are control when he talking to media stuff he making some good points i understand where he going at but he's making some bad points too and it's overshadowing the points you're really making but right that's where i was at i saw you were at the innocence project gala too last night and those are people who are wrongfully convicted two look i'll even learn not aside from that i like innocent project but like even with this right here like you sit right here you sit right here you sit right here you don't think that's a tactic like when people talk if you're talking to three you bound to say some stupid [ __ ] and they're not like no for real i know we can get you this don't got nothing to do of course i just i just studied it like one day i'm just watching all y'all interviews and [ __ ] just watch we go hard and we go too hard i ease it up a little bit yeah they go back and study the way if you gotta go this way this way this way you don't even get a chance to think before you gotta answer the next but i feel you on the sympathy though cause that's how i be nowadays i have empathy for people y'all y'all ruthless like you joe buttons are y'all kind of roof don't put me in the category with your boy he's ridiculous yeah but y'all kind of ruthless if i heard i don't care if meat went to jail this day in the third sec when you see him but no and i i ain't gonna do nothing to him if he didn't um but i i think i go deeper than that even with wendy i was like i've seen don lemon well i'm like he said you know i'm like tell her stop saying certain stuff that she's saying because one time she was like yeah we kind of know he's innocent now but if i was the judge i would keep him in here first of all you black media you got a real platform i got a son in the house i got a son that's another son that's not being raised with a father i would go two years without raising my son my mom is watching this show that's a another black woman lost her son right you basically said we know he innocent but if i was the judge i would keep him in and i'm actually watching people clap to that so charlemagne was wary at first a little bit yeah i don't know what i'm saying meek don't deserve two to four years but he was on instagram popping wheelies and he was but i wasn't even looking at the wheel looking at the other stuff before that anything i did i never committed to crime and that's the whole thing i think that the story that was put out there that people thought at first was that you did commit these crimes prior in your life and that's why you were but the whole the whole narrative is if you committed a crime at 18 years old you shouldn't be going to jail at 31 years old [ __ ] i agree not committing crimes and they make us think that's okay like the the way they set it up is like you see people on instagram or charlemagne saying yeah he broke probation jail it is not these are extreme conditions like if you see it if we go google google a a a a state prison tray this stuff we wouldn't even give to our dog if my dog we got a little jerky in my house if it bit you on the ankle and then bit my other friend on the ankle next week i wouldn't lock my dog in the closet for a month and if my dog was training no not to bite people would you lock your dog in the closet for a moment you'd probably be arrested for locking your dog in the closet for a month why should i get locked in the closet a cell is equivalent to the size of a closet for popping or william right at home yeah i wasn't just looking at the wheel i was looking at like the other situations that people thought you was involved in but you we talking about justice you get locked up for a crime or you don't like it's like when people get exonerated from prison it could have looked like they did the murder 10 different ways people will go with justice because right they say justice is the end result that america represents justice was i ain't been arrested in 11 years for committing crime at all i actually been doing good in my life i am not an angel i made mistakes it was situations i could have ejected myself from but i ain't committing no crime and i have intentions i never stepped out the house with intentions of committing crimes and doing negative stuff two to four years was ridiculous and once you understand the facts of the case you like come on that was to destroy that wasn't to rehabilitate jails to rehabilitate they safe that was to destroy two years my career would have been over with it's not i want to say oh wait because i'm just a fighter like that but people would have viewed it as that way and i would have had to fight so hard to these are the laws that really exist like i'm saying something with kevin gates right now he can't leave out of chicago nope what y'all trying to get him killed yeah i see is he got locked up in chicago like really in the courtroom you sort of be like man uh uh sir jana 700 people got a lot got killed in chicago this year i came to chicago with a firearm i fear for my life i want to protect my life i'm one of those i could be 701 i'm a black young man coming to this area there should be some lean taking place this should be some leniency taking place to that no lock him up put him in the state prison he come home you can't work you got to stay here what you going to do you think kevin gates he's known for making money getting a lot of money he's eligible for a home home invasion he's black he's eligible to get murdered let that man go and work and do what he got to do you don't think you don't think that's slowing them up absolutely your family live in a whole different state and you can't move have you thought about looking into any of the political prisoners locked up in philly like mumia abu jamal yeah mamia i got in court i got out the next week i was looking at the news he got in court and it was just the light like mamiya was the only light shadow on pennsylvania uh judicial system in a long time but you got to remember it was a cop killing and they're really fighting saying that i don't know like the specifics of this case because it's before my time i've been learning through my five months but they've been fighting for a long time and a lot of the evidence is pointing to somebody else committed to murder right but at the same time it's still a cop killing so they're doing everything in their power to keep them in not to give us a shot but now light is stepping even we got a district attorney the head district attorney he was a civil rights lawyer he ain't saying that nobody's supposed to be in jail but he like if you ain't supposed to be in jail i ain't pursuing putting you in jail it's like situations in new york you see some of the situation i don't want to speak on people legal stuff we know what happened in some of the situations but the d.a still going to pursue it like no you did that we don't get who did that you did that one of y'all did that and somebody's going to go to jail that ain't justice if somebody going to jail for somebody else's murder you riding in the car with me i jump out and shoot somebody and get back in the car with you you might not want to get out the car with me you just seeing me shoot somebody now we ride off and get locked up it's conspiracy and i believe you should if you ain't if you don't got nothing to do with criminal activity and somebody put you in a position you ain't signed up for criminal activity sorry for him then who the guy on the tv who's on tv oh stop it yeah if he got what he he didn't get locked up though oh who's on the tv don't worry about it okay yeah he ain't get locked up i'm just saying like when he said that though he said that he would he said i'm telling because i'm a civilian yeah if you're a civilian that's on him you got to you got to portray that you got to live that but this is bad we are looking forward to see what what you have coming up is good energy around organization that you guys i got some aggressive rap coming in you know man i got a lot to talk about a lot of music to drop we want to address a lot of situations she's going to scrutinize you as soon as you drop some aggressive [ __ ] think i'm like see he back to rapping about gangster [ __ ] it's real life though it's like when you hear us rapping when we like such if you do this i'm gonna do that we was traumatized that's how we was brought up nah because look this is what i learned man and it's serious i see when i'm 17 kids got killed in the school in florida they got up and they protested for their people they made sure they made a presence for their people and it became a big issue to me that was normal when 17 people get killed like 17 people get killed in my neighborhood every 17 days but to them that wasn't normal so they valued itself a certain way so they stood up and i seen people from our community go stand up with them and i like that i like want people to come together but i would love when that happened in our neighborhood and it got to start with us it can't start with no kids from the suburban area standing up for us but when we stand up i'm gonna love to see them kids come stand with us the same way and we could put it into maybe a band eight because i know where to i could find an 8k in 10 minutes in new york uh philadelphia there's a case is 13 14 year old kids running around with aks we all make aks they get in there some type of way i i never really paid it any mind growing up it's like damn where did all these guns come from we got you know oozies made in harlem no not at all but they're around they're around and you can get a uzi faster than you can get a job for sure in our neighborhoods and something got to change and i love the way they stood up and i just think that there's always going to be a space for changing and real things to happen i got a platform to make something happen i am not turning into a full-time activist i don't care about taking credit for helping people i've been helping people my peoples my whole life and my community i got a platform to do a job and i'm gonna do the job because i'm actually interested in seeing people get out of these crazy situations that i've seen a lot of people in actually when i had to pack my stuff i was taking long in the pack and one of the life was came to me and said man get out of here man like hurry up you know i felt a little guilty seeing some of these dudes still stuck in here because i knew someone was innocent for murders i know about their cases they was with somebody in the car somebody got smoked in they went to hell they want to tell cause they probably would have got smoked if they told anyway they probably won't even have a prison sentence and it was put in a hard this hard situation and that was their life so i felt a little guilty leaving some of them dudes and you know i made a commitment to helping some of them and it's a real situation and we appreciate you for joining us meek mill it's not a marketing plan music on the way afterwards we're gonna get things going and do what we do man get back to the music have some fun and uh move with a purpose i guess all right well it's meek mill it's the breakfast club good morning hey yo too man make sure this the interview is still rolling yeah yeah i just tried to be free today and talk and give my opinion don't take my words and twist up and try to make me into a bad guy man i'm just trying to make things not for real because we had a long conversation i gotta go back to your interviews and look at it in my life they're gonna edit when you said you took the perk for an hour then started talking about nikki and they're gonna say meek mill said he slept with nikki for an hour after taking a perk that's what they have any girl any girl that knows that they they know they've been around that perk er era they know what's up with me yeah you ain't even the internet ain't even got to tell them it's the breakfast club

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Published: Thu May 10 2018