McNamara's Folly: The Use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War

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<font color="#E5E5E5">I wrote McNamara's folly</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to tell the</font> story<font color="#E5E5E5"> of a very sad</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and tragic chapter</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">in the Vietnam War</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and hopefully it will</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">contribute to the possibility that it</font> will never happen<font color="#CCCCCC"> again</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> today</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I'd like</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to give you an overview of what happened</font> for me the story began<font color="#E5E5E5"> one summer day in</font> 1967<font color="#CCCCCC"> when I was</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> sitting in the Armed</font> Forces<font color="#E5E5E5"> induction Center in Nashville</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Tennessee at one point</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a sergeant came</font> out to talk<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> us and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> tell us that we</font> were headed to Fort Benning<font color="#E5E5E5"> Georgia to</font> begin our army training it was at the height<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the Vietnam War and I had</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">volunteered for service</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the US Army</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the sergeant asked is there anyone here</font> who is<font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> college</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> graduate I'll raise my</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">hand and he motioned for me</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to follow</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">him and he led me down</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a hallway to</font> where a young man<font color="#E5E5E5"> was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> seated and he</font> informed<font color="#CCCCCC"> me</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that the man was named</font> Johnny<font color="#CCCCCC"> Gupton who was also</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> being</font> assigned to Fort<font color="#E5E5E5"> Benning and he told me</font> he said I want you<font color="#E5E5E5"> to take</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> charge of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Gupton go with him every step of the way</font> he explained that<font color="#CCCCCC"> Gupton could neither</font> read nor write<font color="#E5E5E5"> and he said he's gonna</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">need help filling out paperwork when you</font> get to Fort<font color="#E5E5E5"> Benning and then he said</font> make<font color="#E5E5E5"> sure he doesn't get lost</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">he's one of McNamara's morons</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I had</font> never heard<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> term</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and I was surprised</font> that the sergeant<font color="#E5E5E5"> would openly insult</font> this man seated<font color="#E5E5E5"> in front</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of him well in</font> a few<font color="#E5E5E5"> weeks I would</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> learn that</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">McNamara's morons was a term that many</font> officers and sergeants used to low IQ men who were taken into<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Armed</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Forces under a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> special program devised</font> by<font color="#E5E5E5"> Robert McNamara</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> who was the Secretary</font> of<font color="#CCCCCC"> Defense the sergeant left us for a</font> while<font color="#E5E5E5"> and when he returned he had</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a big</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">envelope that was sealed</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and inside it</font> were my personnel records and<font color="#CCCCCC"> Gupta's</font> personnel records and I was<font color="#CCCCCC"> instructed</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to take</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the envelope and when I got off</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> bus at Fort Benning to give it to</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> sergeant's well</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Gupton and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">traveled by plane and and by bus to</font> Georgia and along the way I tried to <font color="#E5E5E5">make small</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> talk with him I I asked her</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">what state he was from he didn't know I</font> found<font color="#E5E5E5"> out later that he</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> was from</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Tennessee he lived in one of the</font> isolated poverty pockets in the eastern part of<font color="#E5E5E5"> the state</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in the Appalachian</font> Mountains<font color="#E5E5E5"> he was very thin emaciated</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">unhealthy looking as we talked or</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> trying</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to talk I was surprised that he knew</font> nothing<font color="#CCCCCC"> about</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> situation he was</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in he</font> didn't understand what basic training <font color="#E5E5E5">was all about he didn't even know</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> America was at war<font color="#CCCCCC"> I tried to explain</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">what was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> happening</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> but at the end I</font> could tell that<font color="#CCCCCC"> he was</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> still</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on a fog</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in</font> basic<font color="#CCCCCC"> training he</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> virtually helpless</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">we had to make his bunk for him every</font> morning<font color="#CCCCCC"> because he could not make</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> up</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> his</font> bunk<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> army specifications</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I had two</font> ties boots every morning<font color="#E5E5E5"> until</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> one</font> trainee had the patience<font color="#CCCCCC"> and took the</font> time to teach in<font color="#CCCCCC"> that skill he had</font> trouble with commands like left face and right face because he didn't know his left from<font color="#CCCCCC"> his right he had trouble</font> marching when the sergeant<font color="#CCCCCC"> screamed at</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">him he was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> terrified and confused on the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">rifle range he was erratic and dangerous</font> with his handling his rifle and the <font color="#CCCCCC">sergeants feared that he would</font> accidentally shoot<font color="#CCCCCC"> himself or some</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">one else finally he was put on permanent</font> KP that means<font color="#E5E5E5"> kitchen police that's</font> working in the kitchen all day<font color="#E5E5E5"> scrubbing</font> and and cleaning in the mess hall<font color="#E5E5E5"> by the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">way for all the men at fort benning that</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">i mentioned i</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> have changed</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> their names</font> to<font color="#CCCCCC"> protect their privacy and also</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> protect the privacy of<font color="#E5E5E5"> their families</font> well why in the world<font color="#CCCCCC"> was such a man</font> inducted later<font color="#E5E5E5"> I found out</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I found</font> out the<font color="#CCCCCC"> historical background during the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Vietnam War</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the US government used the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">military</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> draft to fill the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> ranks of the</font> Armed Forces whenever there was<font color="#E5E5E5"> a</font> shortage of<font color="#CCCCCC"> volunteers in 1966</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the war</font> in Vietnam began<font color="#CCCCCC"> to heat up</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and more and</font> more men were needed how could<font color="#E5E5E5"> McNamara and Lyndon Johnson</font> round up<font color="#E5E5E5"> enough men</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to send a war now</font> there were thousands of volunteers but there weren't<font color="#CCCCCC"> enough</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> volunteers to fill</font> all the slots that<font color="#E5E5E5"> were needed Johnson</font> and McNamara could have drafted college boys but they didn't want<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> do that</font> because it would anger<font color="#CCCCCC"> middle-class</font> voters<font color="#E5E5E5"> likewise they could have sent men</font> from the National Guard and<font color="#CCCCCC"> the reserves</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to Vietnam</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> but that too would have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> been</font> politically unpopular<font color="#E5E5E5"> the Vietnam War</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">was very unpopular with many young</font> Americans<font color="#E5E5E5"> so large numbers of men</font> avoided the draft<font color="#E5E5E5"> in a</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> variety of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">different ways by taking advantage of</font> various exemptions give you a few examples<font color="#CCCCCC"> parenthood would win</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> an</font> exemption<font color="#E5E5E5"> so some men got married and</font> tried<font color="#CCCCCC"> to have a child as quickly as</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">possible if you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> had a letter from a</font> family<font color="#CCCCCC"> doctor about some</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> medical</font> condition<font color="#CCCCCC"> you could</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> get an exemption</font> some men gained disqualifications by contriving to<font color="#E5E5E5"> fail their</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> pre induction</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">physic</font> exams<font color="#E5E5E5"> for example one young man in</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Michigan</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> ate three large pizzas</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> each</font> night for<font color="#CCCCCC"> six</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> months so they gained a</font> lot of<font color="#CCCCCC"> weight</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and when he went in for</font> the the<font color="#E5E5E5"> physical exam he exceeded the</font> military's weight limit<font color="#CCCCCC"> for his height</font> he was disqualified some men jabbed their arms with needles <font color="#CCCCCC">to pass themselves off as</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> heroin addicts</font> professional<font color="#E5E5E5"> football players were</font> immune<font color="#E5E5E5"> virtually immune to being drafted</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">in 1966 out of 960</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> professional football</font> players<font color="#E5E5E5"> the draft took only two the rest</font> found refuge in<font color="#E5E5E5"> the National Guard or</font> reserves McNamara<font color="#E5E5E5"> and Johnson were</font> desperate<font color="#E5E5E5"> how were they going to get the</font> warm<font color="#E5E5E5"> bodies they needed for the military</font> so they<font color="#E5E5E5"> decided to induct men who had</font> failed<font color="#CCCCCC"> the the mental test for entry</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">into the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Armed Forces on October 1 1966</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">McNamara launched his program which was</font> called Project<font color="#E5E5E5"> 100,000 because he wanted</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> induct 100,000 low aptitude men each</font> year<font color="#E5E5E5"> now that's each year the program</font> was less larger than that but<font color="#E5E5E5"> 100,000</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">each year and when he announced it he</font> puffed up his program with high sounding rhetoric saying that he would<font color="#CCCCCC"> salvage</font> these men rehabilitate these men he would raise their level<font color="#E5E5E5"> of intelligence</font> I<font color="#CCCCCC"> imagine</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the situation one day a man is</font> unqualified he's unfit for military<font color="#E5E5E5"> duty</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">but lo and behold the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> next day he</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> is</font> deemed<font color="#CCCCCC"> qualified now he is fit for</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> duty</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">by the end of the war McNamara's program</font> had taken three<font color="#E5E5E5"> hundred and fifty four</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">thousand low aptitude men into all</font> branches of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the armed forces the army</font> got <font color="#CCCCCC">21%</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the Marine Corps got 10% that maybe</font> got 10%<font color="#E5E5E5"> in the Air Force got 9% among</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> troops they were often known as</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">McNamara's morons</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> or the more encore or</font> McNamara's boys or McNamara's<font color="#E5E5E5"> 100,000</font> and by the way you may notice that<font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">talk only about men during the Vietnam</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">War women were not subject to the draft</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">although I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> should</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> point out that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> about</font> 11,000 American women were in the <font color="#CCCCCC">military</font> most of them nurses and they volunteered for<font color="#CCCCCC"> service in Vietnam</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> along with</font> thousands of civilian<font color="#CCCCCC"> women who worked</font> for the Red Cross<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> other agencies</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">like that during the war years 67</font> American women died in Vietnam<font color="#E5E5E5"> now back</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> Fort Benning toward the end of basic</font> I suffered from heat<font color="#E5E5E5"> exhaustion and I</font> was sent<font color="#CCCCCC"> to a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> hospital</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> for</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a while and</font> then I was<font color="#E5E5E5"> sent to an outfit called</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">special training company for</font> rehabilitation<font color="#E5E5E5"> special training company</font> was filled<font color="#CCCCCC"> with men who were unable to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">pass basic training and it was there</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> got to see firsthand</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> what</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> life</font> was like<font color="#CCCCCC"> for</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> dozens of these project</font> 100,000 men at<font color="#E5E5E5"> special training company</font> the men were supposed<font color="#E5E5E5"> to try to pass a</font> PT test<font color="#E5E5E5"> that was what they</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> primarily</font> worked on<font color="#CCCCCC"> passed the Beatty the physical</font> test<font color="#CCCCCC"> in order to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> graduate but most of</font> the men failed miserably<font color="#E5E5E5"> because</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font> their<font color="#E5E5E5"> mental limitations let me just</font> give you<font color="#E5E5E5"> one</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> example one of the event on</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">the physical</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> test was called the grenade</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">throw</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you had a practice</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> grenade it was</font> the explosives had been<font color="#CCCCCC"> removed</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> so it</font> was not<font color="#CCCCCC"> dangerous in that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> sense you had</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> throw the grenade 90 feet</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to a flat</font> target spread out on the ground<font color="#E5E5E5"> and it</font> looked just<font color="#E5E5E5"> like a giant dartboard</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">it had a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> bull's-eye and then it had the</font> concentric circles around it<font color="#E5E5E5"> and the</font> scoring<font color="#E5E5E5"> was just like four darts the</font> closer<font color="#E5E5E5"> you came to the bull's eye the</font> more points<font color="#E5E5E5"> you made to simulate combat</font> conditions<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> army required the men to</font> kneel<font color="#CCCCCC"> down on</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> one knee you had to have</font> one knee<font color="#CCCCCC"> on the ground because that's</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">where you would throw in combat if you</font> were behind a barrier<font color="#E5E5E5"> and so the men had</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to get down on</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> one knee</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and in order</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> reach the target<font color="#E5E5E5"> what they should have</font> done<font color="#E5E5E5"> was to throw the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> grenade and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a high</font> arc<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> way a centerfielder would throw</font> if he's throwing<font color="#E5E5E5"> a baseball</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to home</font> plate a high arc<font color="#E5E5E5"> but the men couldn't</font> understand that<font color="#E5E5E5"> concept and they would</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">throw in a straight</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> line</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> like a pitcher</font> throwing<font color="#CCCCCC"> a ball</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to a catcher the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">sergeant's tried to demonstrate</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> explain<font color="#E5E5E5"> that you needed that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> high arc</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the men</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to be and just they couldn't</font> understand it<font color="#CCCCCC"> I would take some of them</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">out in the evening and try to show them</font> how to do it<font color="#E5E5E5"> by giving them a little</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">mind game I would say okay imagine that</font> there's a bird flying up there<font color="#E5E5E5"> in the</font> sky throw your<font color="#E5E5E5"> grenade and try to hit that</font> bird it didn't work they just<font color="#E5E5E5"> couldn't</font> understand<font color="#CCCCCC"> that concept</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of throwing in a</font> high arc so they never<font color="#E5E5E5"> even hit the</font> target much less the bullseye the <font color="#CCCCCC">problem was their mental limitation and</font> the mental limitation was also seen when they went to<font color="#E5E5E5"> the rifle range now to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">qualify with an m14 rifle at that time</font> the military<font color="#E5E5E5"> wanted to simulate combat</font> conditions<font color="#E5E5E5"> so the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> tests</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> involved the</font> trainee<font color="#E5E5E5"> in front standing in front of a</font> hillside<font color="#CCCCCC"> of brushy</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> hillside and there</font> were<font color="#CCCCCC"> pop-up targets at different places</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and you never knew when the pop-up</font> target would appear<font color="#CCCCCC"> you might be looking</font> for<font color="#E5E5E5"> a target and one pops up</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> over here</font> at the<font color="#CCCCCC"> fifty meters and</font> stays up only<font color="#CCCCCC"> 5 seconds and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> then</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it goes</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">down</font> oh wait wait here's<font color="#CCCCCC"> one at 75 meters 5</font> seconds and<font color="#CCCCCC"> then it goes down</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> back there</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">there's one at 200 meters</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> flips up for</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 5</font> seconds<font color="#E5E5E5"> then it goes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> down the problem</font> the men had was that they weren't quick-witted enough they weren't<font color="#E5E5E5"> quick</font> in their<font color="#E5E5E5"> thinking and if they saw one</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">like over here at 75</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they raised</font> their rifle and take aim and fire but<font color="#CCCCCC"> by</font> then it was<font color="#CCCCCC"> too late Wainwright we just</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">went a hundred meters over here that</font> have<font color="#E5E5E5"> to shift try to aim it and squeeze</font> off<font color="#E5E5E5"> around before it went down</font> they weren't quick enough<font color="#CCCCCC"> they couldn't</font> do<font color="#E5E5E5"> it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so they flunked out on the the</font> rifle test and and<font color="#E5E5E5"> obviously today we're</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">not well-suited for firing</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a rifle in</font> combat so what happened to these men well it's obvious they should have been sent home<font color="#CCCCCC"> they should have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> been</font> discharged<font color="#CCCCCC"> in fact many company</font> commanders tried<font color="#E5E5E5"> to get them discharged</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">they would write memos call on the phone</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">try to get these guys</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to go home get</font> them out of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the army but unfortunately</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">both the Army and the Marine</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Corps were</font> facing severe manpower shortages<font color="#CCCCCC"> in</font> Vietnam<font color="#E5E5E5"> and they were reluctant to</font> discharge anyone so most of McNamara's boys went to <font color="#E5E5E5">Vietnam now remember we're talking about</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">three hundred</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> fifty four thousand</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">men in</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Project 100,000 most of them went</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> Vietnam and then half of them who</font> were sent<font color="#CCCCCC"> to Vietnam</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> were assigned to</font> combat units<font color="#E5E5E5"> and the death toll was</font> appalling here's the number of<font color="#E5E5E5"> men</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">project</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 100,000 men who were</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> killed in</font> Vietnam<font color="#CCCCCC"> five thousand four hundred</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">seventy-eight let me say that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> again five</font> thousand four hundred<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> seventy eight</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">their fatality rate was three times</font> higher than the fatality rate for your average<font color="#CCCCCC"> GI we don't know how many were</font> wounded<font color="#CCCCCC"> we don't know the number of the</font> wounded<font color="#E5E5E5"> but it was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> estimated to be</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> about</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">twenty thousand men wounded and of</font> course many<font color="#E5E5E5"> of them were permanently</font> disabled<font color="#E5E5E5"> including an estimated</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 500</font> amputees well who were these<font color="#CCCCCC"> men the</font> book has a<font color="#E5E5E5"> lot of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> stories about these</font> men I want to read you<font color="#E5E5E5"> one</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Barry bromo</font> and<font color="#E5E5E5"> his nephew Robert ended up in</font> Vietnam<font color="#E5E5E5"> at the same time Barry said I</font> loved<font color="#E5E5E5"> Robert like a brother we grew up</font> together he was only<font color="#E5E5E5"> one month younger</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Barry served in Vietnam as an infantry</font> platoon<font color="#CCCCCC"> leader in</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 1967-68</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and he saw a</font> lot of combat<font color="#E5E5E5"> winning a Bronze Star for</font> his courage on the battlefield<font color="#E5E5E5"> during</font> his tour he<font color="#E5E5E5"> learned that Robert had been</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">drafted and was being</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> trained at Fort</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Lewis Washington</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to be an infantryman</font> destined<font color="#E5E5E5"> for Vietnam Barry was alarmed</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">because Robert was quote very slow and</font> had failed the Army's mental<font color="#CCCCCC"> test but</font> then<font color="#E5E5E5"> along came project 100,000 which</font> lowered standards<font color="#CCCCCC"> and made him draftable</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">a host of people his relatives his</font> comrades at Fort Lewis his sergeants his officers wrote to the commanding general at Fort Lewis<font color="#E5E5E5"> asking that Robert not be</font> sent into<font color="#CCCCCC"> combat because as one relative</font> put it he would die but<font color="#E5E5E5"> the general</font> turned down the request once in Vietnam Robert was sent to<font color="#E5E5E5"> an infantry</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> unit</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> near</font> the border of<font color="#CCCCCC"> North Vietnam one of the</font> most dangerous combat areas during<font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">patrol he was shot in</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the neck while</font> trying to<font color="#CCCCCC"> help a wounded friend he did</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">not die instantly but heavy gunfire kept</font> a medic reaching him<font color="#E5E5E5"> Barry said he drowned in</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">his own blood at the request of the</font> family Barry was given<font color="#CCCCCC"> permission to leave</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Vietnam and accompany</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Roberts body</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> home</font> to Rialto California<font color="#E5E5E5"> the aluminum coffin</font> was sealed and draped<font color="#CCCCCC"> with a flag</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font> the family<font color="#E5E5E5"> was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> not allowed to view the</font> remains it was<font color="#E5E5E5"> army policy to discourage or</font> forbid viewing when<font color="#CCCCCC"> a body was badly</font> mutilated<font color="#E5E5E5"> looking back Barry said that</font> Robert<font color="#E5E5E5"> really didn't have much luck</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">while others were getting deferments he</font> was drafted<font color="#E5E5E5"> while congressman's sons</font> were getting exemptions for braces on their teeth <font color="#E5E5E5">Robert was drafted as part of Project</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">100,000 in a speech delivered</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 42 years</font> later<font color="#E5E5E5"> Barry</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Ramos said that the family</font> had never recovered from<font color="#CCCCCC"> losing Robert</font> his death<font color="#E5E5E5"> almost destroyed us with anger</font> and sorrow some people<font color="#E5E5E5"> think</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font> don't<font color="#E5E5E5"> have</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to be very bright to be</font> successful in combat that's not true men who were slow in their<font color="#E5E5E5"> thinking were</font> very<font color="#E5E5E5"> vulnerable to survive in combat</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you</font> had to be smart and<font color="#E5E5E5"> you had to think</font> quickly you had to<font color="#E5E5E5"> know how to use</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> your</font> rifle effectively and keep it clean and operable<font color="#E5E5E5"> you had to know how to navigate</font> through jungles<font color="#E5E5E5"> and rice paddies without</font> alerting the<font color="#CCCCCC"> enemy and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you had to know</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">how</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to communicate and cooperate with</font> other members of<font color="#E5E5E5"> your team</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a Pentagon</font> official<font color="#CCCCCC"> Elliott</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> coin said the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">dull-witted soldier does not simply get</font> himself killed<font color="#E5E5E5"> he causes the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> death of</font> others as<font color="#E5E5E5"> well and here is what one</font> Vietnam veteran said<font color="#E5E5E5"> his name is</font> Chief<font color="#CCCCCC"> Warrant Officer</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> William esto</font> if you take someone<font color="#CCCCCC"> with an IQ</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of 40</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> give him a rifle<font color="#CCCCCC"> he's more</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> dangerous to</font> you than he<font color="#CCCCCC"> is to the enemy I almost got</font> shot twice<font color="#E5E5E5"> and had one guy almost nail</font> me<font color="#E5E5E5"> with a light anti-armor weapon when</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">he was startled by a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> sudden noise if you</font> put a low IQ man and an infantry patrol you have to spend most of your time <font color="#CCCCCC">making sure he doesn't kill a comrade by</font> accident<font color="#E5E5E5"> and doesn't get himself killed</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">during contact because he's totally</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">unaware of what's going on around him</font> imagine sending<font color="#E5E5E5"> a five-year-old and to</font> combat<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's what project 100,000 was</font> all about another veteran<font color="#CCCCCC"> Army</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> veteran</font> named<font color="#E5E5E5"> GJ loud served with the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 1st</font> Infantry<font color="#CCCCCC"> Division in 1969</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> he</font> remembered a man that he called<font color="#E5E5E5"> Jerry</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">didn't use his real</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> name</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he called him</font> Jerry<font color="#E5E5E5"> who he said was a member of</font> McNamara's<font color="#CCCCCC"> 100000 here's what lau said</font> one night Jerry was out on<font color="#CCCCCC"> the perimeter</font> standing<font color="#E5E5E5"> night guard</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a very popular</font> officer had been<font color="#E5E5E5"> out setting his men in</font> position<font color="#E5E5E5"> and was returning to inside the</font> wire there<font color="#E5E5E5"> is a challenge procedure just</font> like you see<font color="#E5E5E5"> in the movies halt who goes</font> there lieutenant saw him so<font color="#E5E5E5"> advance and be</font> recognized<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's not it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> exactly but</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font> get the idea<font color="#CCCCCC"> you order</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> person to</font> halt<font color="#E5E5E5"> and then do whatever it takes to</font> identify them as a friend<font color="#CCCCCC"> or a foe</font> normally not a difficult<font color="#CCCCCC"> task given</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> obvious differences between the average <font color="#E5E5E5">Vietnamese and US Americans but for some</font> reason Jerry saw the officer of <font color="#E5E5E5">approaching and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> shouted</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> out halt</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> then immediately opened fire killing him on the spot the killing caused consternation in<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> camp the man under the<font color="#E5E5E5"> officers command</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">immediately made it known</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to any and all</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that Jerry was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a dead</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> man</font> period end of<font color="#E5E5E5"> discussion someone must</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">have taken that threat seriously because</font> Jerry was gone at first light never saw him<font color="#CCCCCC"> again my book does not</font> contain 100%<font color="#CCCCCC"> grimm sad stories there</font> were some positive stories I tell<font color="#CCCCCC"> about</font> some officers and sergeants and comrades who were sensitive<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> compassionate</font> towards<font color="#E5E5E5"> low IQ men they are the heroes</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">of my book some</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of the officers and</font> sergeants protected low IQ men by keeping them out of<font color="#CCCCCC"> combat and giving</font> them relatively<font color="#E5E5E5"> safe jobs away</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> from</font> danger the man I told<font color="#CCCCCC"> you about at</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> very<font color="#E5E5E5"> beginning</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that I went into basic</font> training<font color="#E5E5E5"> with</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Johnny Gupton he was sent</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> Vietnam and he survived because</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> he</font> was protected by a sergeant sergeant gave him non dangerous<font color="#E5E5E5"> jobs away</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> from</font> combat the sergeant sympathized with <font color="#CCCCCC">Gupton because he the sergeant had grown</font> up<font color="#E5E5E5"> with a sister whom he called mentally</font> handicapped now I'd<font color="#E5E5E5"> like</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> discuss</font> Robert McNamara one<font color="#E5E5E5"> historian said that</font> during<font color="#CCCCCC"> the Vietnam</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> war among career</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">military people Robert McNamara was the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">most hated</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> man</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in America</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and I quote</font> one officer in my<font color="#E5E5E5"> book who said</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> because<font color="#CCCCCC"> of project 100,000 quote Robert</font> McNamara<font color="#E5E5E5"> deserves to burn in hell</font> many people<font color="#E5E5E5"> wonder what was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> McNamara</font> thinking<font color="#E5E5E5"> how could he be so cruel well</font> here's<font color="#E5E5E5"> the background McNamara was a</font> lover of<font color="#E5E5E5"> technology like many Americans</font> in the 1960s<font color="#E5E5E5"> he was dazzled by this</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">exciting new world of computers and high</font> technology<font color="#CCCCCC"> and he thought he could win</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> vietnam war</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> by using advanced</font> technology and<font color="#E5E5E5"> computerized analyses</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">when he launched project</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 100,000 he</font> promised that the<font color="#E5E5E5"> armed forces would</font> raise the IQ level of the men he said that although<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> men may have failed in</font> school<font color="#E5E5E5"> they wouldn't fail now because</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> military was the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> world's greatest</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">educator of skilled manpower and it</font> possessed<font color="#CCCCCC"> an impressive array of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">state-of-the-art multimedia equipment he</font> believed this<font color="#E5E5E5"> is</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> no joke he believed</font> that he could<font color="#E5E5E5"> raise the intelligence of</font> low ability men through<font color="#CCCCCC"> the use of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> video</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">tapes he said this is a direct quote</font> this is a direct quote from<font color="#E5E5E5"> one</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> his</font> speeches<font color="#E5E5E5"> a low aptitude student can use</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">video tapes as an aid</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to his formal</font> instruction and end up by becoming as proficient<font color="#E5E5E5"> as a high aptitude student</font> well this<font color="#CCCCCC"> idea was considered laughable</font> and naive<font color="#CCCCCC"> and ridiculous by many</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">educators and psychologists</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> yes of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">course video can</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> be a wonderful useful</font> aid in instruction it can help students <font color="#E5E5E5">to learn but it's not a magical medium</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> can raise the person's IQ by</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 20</font> points <font color="#E5E5E5">Deborah</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Shaklee a biographer who wrote a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">detailed book about McNamara said that</font> in regard to<font color="#E5E5E5"> project 100,000 McNamara</font> was quote<font color="#E5E5E5"> a naive believer in</font> technological miracles well how<font color="#CCCCCC"> did things</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> turn out where his</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">videotapes capable of producing miracles</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">we'll never know</font> because very few<font color="#E5E5E5"> men in Project 100,000</font> actually received<font color="#E5E5E5"> video instruction</font> there was a war<font color="#CCCCCC"> going on</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and thousands</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of American fighting men were being</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">killed or severely wounded Army and</font> Marine platoons in Vietnam were desperate<font color="#CCCCCC"> for replacements</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> training</font> centers were under great<font color="#E5E5E5"> pressure to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> get</font> troops to Vietnam as quickly as possible <font color="#E5E5E5">after the war dead McNamara ever</font> expressed regret over a project<font color="#CCCCCC"> 100,000</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Deborah</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Shapley says that to the very</font> end<font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> his life</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and he lived a long</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> time</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you live</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it you lived in 93</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> she said</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> to the very end of his</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> life he</font> refused to apologize or admit<font color="#E5E5E5"> an error</font> he<font color="#E5E5E5"> bitterly she said he bitterly</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">resented the term McNamara's more on</font> Quora which he had heard for<font color="#CCCCCC"> years and</font> he<font color="#CCCCCC"> steadfastly believed that the program</font> was beneficial to individual men and to society<font color="#CCCCCC"> in general</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> what was going on</font> well he obviously was<font color="#E5E5E5"> ignoring the many</font> accounts of suffering and<font color="#E5E5E5"> death and he</font> was<font color="#E5E5E5"> just looking at the success stories</font> about some project<font color="#E5E5E5"> 100,000 men who did</font> well in the service yes you heard me <font color="#CCCCCC">right some project 100,000 men did</font> indeed<font color="#CCCCCC"> do well</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to be fair</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I created</font> a<font color="#E5E5E5"> chapter</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> called</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> success stories let me</font> read you an example of a success story chief hospital corpsman<font color="#E5E5E5"> Dan I'm sorry</font> chief hospital corpsman<font color="#E5E5E5"> Don Phelps of</font> Oxnard California<font color="#E5E5E5"> who was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in charge of a</font> large<font color="#CCCCCC"> sick bay on a navy ship recalled</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">an assistant</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> named</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Aylmer</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> who was assigned to him over his</font> objections<font color="#E5E5E5"> Phelps wanted his sickbay to</font> be immaculately clean<font color="#E5E5E5"> so that it would</font> outshine<font color="#E5E5E5"> and out show any and all spaces</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the board he didn't want to take on</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Elmer as an assistant because</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he was one</font> of McNamara's boys he had no schooling <font color="#CCCCCC">and no chance of a responsible job in</font> later life<font color="#E5E5E5"> furthermore he was not too</font> bright<font color="#CCCCCC"> and he had to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> be taught the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">concepts of clean and sterile but Phelps</font> was ordered to<font color="#CCCCCC"> take elmer and he was</font> immediately surprised by the young<font color="#CCCCCC"> man's</font> solid performance and eagerness to please elmer made the<font color="#CCCCCC"> sickbay</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Sparkle</font> with cleanliness<font color="#E5E5E5"> Phelps said</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I couldn't</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">have asked for a cleaner sharper space</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">if I had a crew</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> five men</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> working for</font> me Phelps said that because<font color="#CCCCCC"> of Ellmers</font> mental limitations<font color="#CCCCCC"> he never gave</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> him any</font> large amount of detailed<font color="#E5E5E5"> work but in the</font> basic cleaning jobs that he<font color="#E5E5E5"> assigned</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">elmer took extreme pride in what</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he did</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">accomplish</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he was very polite</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> developed a highly<font color="#E5E5E5"> commendable</font> appearance<font color="#CCCCCC"> but tackling the dirty work</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and doing it exceptionally well</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> elmer</font> relieved hard-pressed lab<font color="#E5E5E5"> x-ray and</font> operating room<font color="#CCCCCC"> techs</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> perform their</font> functions more efficiently he was vastly superior<font color="#E5E5E5"> to the assistance</font> of normal<font color="#CCCCCC"> intelligence that Phelps had</font> worked with men who were sloppy<font color="#CCCCCC"> and had</font> a bad attitude the story of<font color="#CCCCCC"> elmer supports the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> argument</font> made by many<font color="#E5E5E5"> educators and psychologists</font> that low aptitude of individuals can<font color="#CCCCCC"> be</font> productive<font color="#CCCCCC"> in low stress non dangerous</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">situations</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and this is an important</font> point<font color="#E5E5E5"> low aptitude men and women are not</font> worthless<font color="#E5E5E5"> people they are not subhumans</font> they are capable<font color="#CCCCCC"> of contributing to</font> their fan <font color="#E5E5E5">and to our</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> society</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in the workplace they</font> are<font color="#CCCCCC"> capable of being successful workers</font> if<font color="#E5E5E5"> they are placed in low stress</font> situations with sympathetic supervisors and sympathetic<font color="#CCCCCC"> co-workers</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> they need to</font> be in a cozy<font color="#CCCCCC"> Haven a protected</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> place a</font> place that is far different<font color="#CCCCCC"> from</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> military<font color="#CCCCCC"> environment where sergeants are</font> screaming at you and your fellow soldiers are rough<font color="#E5E5E5"> and rowdy and the</font> demands<font color="#E5E5E5"> of daily life are extremely</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">stressful so yes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> elemรฉr</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and some other</font> project<font color="#E5E5E5"> 100,000 men did experience</font> success<font color="#E5E5E5"> in the Armed Forces but they</font> were in a minority<font color="#CCCCCC"> most of the men of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">project 100,000 suffered and some of</font> them suffered enormous<font color="#CCCCCC"> Lee and you may</font> be thinking<font color="#CCCCCC"> project 100,000 was so</font> terrible surely we will<font color="#E5E5E5"> never make this</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">mistake again</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> right well I have good</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">news and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> bad</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> news the good news</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in the</font> early<font color="#E5E5E5"> 1970s</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the military</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> draft was ended</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">thank goodness</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> project 100,000 was</font> abolished<font color="#CCCCCC"> thank</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> goodness</font> no more drafting of low IQ troops but now the bad<font color="#E5E5E5"> news in the years since the</font> draft<font color="#E5E5E5"> ended leading up</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to the present</font> day<font color="#CCCCCC"> the Army and the Marine Corps have</font> monthly recruiting quotas and if they <font color="#E5E5E5">fail to meet their quotas they are</font> authorized<font color="#E5E5E5"> to enlist recruits of low</font> intelligence<font color="#E5E5E5"> the Army and the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Marine</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Corps have tried to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> avoid taking these</font> individuals they don't really<font color="#CCCCCC"> want</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> them</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">but sometimes</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> they've had to induct them</font> in order<font color="#CCCCCC"> to fill the ranks</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> final</font> chapter of my<font color="#CCCCCC"> book is entitled the folly</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">continues I give examples of low</font> aptitude men who have<font color="#E5E5E5"> been inducted in</font> recent years<font color="#E5E5E5"> especially in the war in</font> Iraq and some<font color="#E5E5E5"> of them lost</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> their lives</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">let me share one example</font> during the war in Iraq<font color="#CCCCCC"> the military had</font> trouble getting<font color="#CCCCCC"> enough men and women to</font> fill the ranks<font color="#CCCCCC"> so it lowered mental</font> standards<font color="#E5E5E5"> just as it had done</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in Vietnam</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">in 2008 an army private named</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> David</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Dietrich of Perry County Pennsylvania</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">was the subject of a Newsweek magazine</font> article entitled<font color="#E5E5E5"> he never should have</font> gone to<font color="#E5E5E5"> Iraq before</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and during his army</font> time he was considered slow in his <font color="#CCCCCC">thinking and he had</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> trouble retaining</font> information<font color="#E5E5E5"> and basic training</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> he</font> couldn't hit targets on the<font color="#CCCCCC"> rifle range</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">even though he was given extra training</font> one superior<font color="#E5E5E5"> campaigned to have Dietrich</font> sent home<font color="#E5E5E5"> on grounds that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> he would pose</font> a danger<font color="#E5E5E5"> to himself and others if he</font> were sent to<font color="#E5E5E5"> be</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to Iraq starts a</font> Vietnam<font color="#CCCCCC"> it's so much like Vietnam</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he</font> would pose a danger to<font color="#E5E5E5"> himself and</font> others<font color="#E5E5E5"> if he was sent to Iraq but the</font> request was turned down by<font color="#CCCCCC"> the Pentagon</font> because<font color="#E5E5E5"> there was a big push</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to get</font> troops<font color="#E5E5E5"> into the combat zone</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as soon as</font> he arrived in<font color="#CCCCCC"> Iraq</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he was assigned to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">act as a scout in an abandoned building</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">where he was supposed to watch furtively</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">from open windows</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a few</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> minutes after he</font> started his duty at one of the windows <font color="#E5E5E5">he was shot and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> killed instantly</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">a few days ago I learned something</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> else</font> about<font color="#E5E5E5"> this poor guy</font> I learned that<font color="#E5E5E5"> other soldiers in</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> his</font> outfit had called him by his<font color="#CCCCCC"> nickname</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> his</font> nickname<font color="#CCCCCC"> was Forrest Gump was Vietnam</font> all over again<font color="#E5E5E5"> now in fairness I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> should</font> emphasize<font color="#CCCCCC"> that the practice of accepting</font> mentally limited soldiers and Marines today<font color="#E5E5E5"> is nowhere near as widespread as</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">it was during the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Vietnam War but</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">fawley</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> does continue</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I would like</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to close my remarks today</font> by<font color="#E5E5E5"> answering this question what can we</font> learn from<font color="#E5E5E5"> McNamara's folly for me the</font> overriding<font color="#E5E5E5"> lesson is that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> low IQ men</font> should never<font color="#E5E5E5"> be used in a war</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> zone</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> or in</font> a dangerous area putting<font color="#CCCCCC"> their lives at</font> risk<font color="#CCCCCC"> is cruel it's immoral</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and on a</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">sheer practical level</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it degrades the</font> effectiveness of<font color="#E5E5E5"> war efforts it was</font> wrong to use these men in Vietnam<font color="#CCCCCC"> and it</font> is wrong<font color="#E5E5E5"> to use these men in the</font> military<font color="#CCCCCC"> today</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I firmly believe that the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">armed forces need and deserve the best</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and the brightest thank you</font>
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Channel: Hamilton Gregory
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Keywords: McNamara's Folly, Vietnam War, McNamara's Morons, Project 100000, Robert McNamara, Lyndon Johnson, military draft, intellectual disability, low-IQ, Moron Corps, Vietnam veterans, soldiers, Marines, Vietnam, casualties, morons, stupid, draftees, death, Army, Marine Corps, McNamara's Boys, mental standards, induction, McNamara, Robert S. McNamara, Lyndon B. Johnson, Hamilton Gregory
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Length: 36min 28sec (2188 seconds)
Published: Fri Apr 29 2016
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Otherwise known as McNamaraโ€™s morons or McNamaraโ€™s 100,000.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 34 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/HippityHopMath ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

The one's that make it out alive are the one that got shot in the buttocks and go on to play ping pong in china.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 26 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/Tronkfool ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

You make it sound like they stopped doing that.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 16 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/enfiel ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

Some got out of it by claiming bone spurs.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 4 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/maliciousorstupid ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

One of them got injured in Vietnam..gunshot to the buttocks. But, he saved the lives of 6 of his fellow men, including his lieutenant. He won the Medal of Honor.

Later he was a table tennis champ, shrimp fisherman, and rich investor

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 10 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/TheRealBobbyC ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

I think I saw this in a movie once.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 6 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/Adhmad_Dubh ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

The thread title would be more informative if it mentioned which military and when this happened.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 4 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/NDaveT ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

canon fodder

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 2 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/[deleted] ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

But people on the left told me IQ is not accurate and not legally binding so it's impossible to take it as an indicator.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 4 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/MurdochMurdoch88 ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Nov 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies
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