McCarthy Displaying 'Selfish Form Of Leadership’ Says Congressman

THIS IS STILL TELEVISION IN THE TIME OF ZOOM. DAVID, SAME QUESTION TO YOU. THIS IS AGAIN McCARTHY IN THE PUBLIC WAY AND BRUTAL INTERNAL FIGHT, SACRIFICING LIZ CHENEY AS PART OF A LEADERSHIP TEAM TO APPEASE DONALD TRUMP. TO WHAT END IN YOUR VIEW? >> YEAH. I LIKE YOUR QUESTION TOHAT COULDN’T THIS BE A MOMENT TO DRAW THE LINE BECAUSE HE DID. WITHIN A WEEK OF JANUARY HE SAID THIS IS THE DOING OF THE PRESIDENT AND MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. WHAT CHANGED IS HE WENT TO MARLO GA -- MAR-A-LAGO AND GOT ASSURANCE THAT HE WILL BE THE NEXT SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. HE HANGS A PORTRAIT OF HIMSELF IN HIS OWN OFFICE AND WOULD GIVE UP ANATOMY TO BE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND WHAT WE SEE FROM HIM IS THE MOST SELFISH FORM OF LEADERSHIP. TRYING TO ELEVATE HIMSELF, BY HIS PARTY BACK TO THE MAJORITY CAUCUS TO BE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. WHAT CHENEY DID IS TO STAND UP FOR THE COUNTRY AND THE CONSTITUTION. SHE DID THE RIGHT THING. A LOT OF PEOPLE APPLAUD HER TODAY. I THINK THE QUESTION FOR CHENEY AND REPUBLICANS IS WHAT NEXT? AS BOLD AS LIZ CHENEY HAS BEEN, AS MUCH LEADERSHIP AS SHE’S SHOWN IN THIS MOMENT SHE IS WELCOMED INTO A VAST MINORITY OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THE SENATE HAS ROMNEY. THE HOUSE HAS CHENEY. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU KEEP DONALD TRUMP FROM GETTING TO THE OVAL OFFICE? DOES LIZ CHENEY STAY? LEAF THE CONGRESS TO TRY TO LEAD THE MOVEMENT? >> YAMICHE, McCARTHY IS A LOT OF THINGS. I THINK DAVID JOLLY LISTED SOME OF THEM. HE’S PROVEN HIMSELF TODAY STANDING BEFORE THE SACRED STRUCTURE THAT IS THE WHITE HOUSE THAT YOU COVER A LIAR. WATCH WHAT HE SAID TODAY AND THEN I’VE GOT THE TAPE. >> I DON’T THINK ANYBODY IS QUESTIONING THE LEGITIMACY OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. I THINK THAT IS ALL OVER WITH. WE ARE SITTING HERE WITH THE PRESIDENT TODAY. SO FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW I DON’T THINK THAT’S A PROBLEM. >> SO KEVIN McCARTHY IS THE REASON THAT THE BIG LIE TOOK HOLD. McCARTHY AND McCONNELL ARE THE REASON THAT I THINK IT’S -- I WANT TO GET THE NUMBER RIGHT BUT I THINK IT’S 70% OF REPUBLICANS WHO DON’T BELIEVE WHAT HE JUST SAID. AMONG THE REPUBLICANS 70% DO NOT BELIEVE THAT JOE BIDEN IS LEGITIMATE. ONLY 23% DO. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE WHITE HOUSE’S SORT OF TOLERANCE FOR FLAGRANT LYING FROM THE REPUBLICAN LEADER OF THE HOUSE. STILL GOING TO WORK WITH HIM ON INFRASTRUCTURE? >> WELL, IN AN ERA THAT HAS BEEN TRAUMATIC AS IT HAS BEEN BIZARRE AND HISTORIC TODAY STANDS OUT. McCARTHY STANDS OUT. STANDING IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE JUST A FEW MINUTES AFTER WALKING OUT OF A MEETING WITH A PRESIDENT THAT FORMER PRESIDENT IS CLEARLY TRYING TO DELEGITIMATIZE AND TOODSTOOD BEF REPORTERS TO SAY THAT NO ONE IS QUESTIONING THE LEGITIMACY OF THE ELECTION. WE KNOW AND HE KNOWS THAT’S NOT TRUE AND THE IDEA THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP KNOWS THAT’S NOT TRUE AND AS MUCH AS HE IS TRYING TO ALIGN HIMSELF WITH THE PRESIDENT WHO WILL WATCH THAT AND NOT BE HAPPY? PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE WANTS ALL REPUBLICANS IN LINE SAYING THIS ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM HIM AND IT IS INTERESTING TO ME THAT McCARTHY CHOSE TO SAY THAT IN THAT MOMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT’S NOT WHAT THE PARTY LINE AND MESSAGING IS AND WHY WE SAW CHENEY OUSTED TODAY. I’M TALKING TO WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS ALL DAY ABOUT THAT. I TALKED TO AN OFFICIAL SAYING THAT THEY SPOKE TO PRESIDENT BIDEN ABOUT THAT STATEMENT BY McCARTHY AND TOLD THAT THE PRESIDENT BIDEN’S RESPONSE WAS REALLY MUTED AND HE FEELS A SENSE OF DUH THE ITY TO BE GRACE WORK WITH REPUBLICANS IN ANY WAY HE CAN AND OFFICIALS TELL ME AFTER DECADES IN WASHINGTON PRESIDENT BIDEN IS USED TO LOOKING PAST SLIGHTS AND THE WAY THE WHITE HOUSE IS COUCHING THIS SAYING IN THE MEETING 90 MINUTES THEY TALKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND SPECIFICALLY AREAS TO WORK OUT THINGS ON AND THAT’S HARD INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPETING WITH CHINA BUT ALL OF THIS IS TO SAY THERE’S A BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM EVERY TIME A REPUBLICAN COMES TO THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE THEY’RE TRYING TO DELEGITIMATIZE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND CAN’T BE UNDERSCORED ENOUGH. >> FOR LIZ CHENEY, DAVID JOLLY, IT WAS A BRIDGE TOO FAR. HERE’S CHENEY IN AN INTERVIEW WITH OUR COLLEAGUE SAVANNAH GUTHRIE TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU ALLUDED TO, WHAT COMES NEXT. >> ARE YOU THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION IN EXILE RIGHT NOW IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY? >> I INTEND TO BE THE LEADER, ONE OF THE LEADERS IN A FIGHT TO HELP TO RESTORE OUR PARTY AND A FIGHT TO BRING THE PARTY BACK TO SUBSTANCE AND PRINCIPLES AND IN A FIGHT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WE WON’T PARTICIPATE IN A REALLY DANGEROUS EFFORT THAT’S UNDER WAY. >> PEOPLE FRAME THIS AS A BATTLE FOR THE SOUL OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> THIS IS THE OPENING SALVO IN THAT BATTLE AND A BATTLE WE HAVE TO WIN. BECAUSE IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IT’S ABOUT THE COUNTRY. >> THE TRUMP POLITICAL TEAM IS ACTIVELY LOOKING TO COALESCE AROUND A PRIMARY CHALLENGER TO YOU. WHAT IS THEIR MESSAGE TO THEM? >> BRING IT ON. >> SO DAVID, I AM THINKING OF THE POLLING DATA THAT LIZ CHENEY KNOWS WAS SUPPRESSED FROM THE PEERS SAYING BRING IT ON BECAUSE THE GUY UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR SEX WITH AN UNDERAGE GIRL WENT TO THE STATE TO TAUNT HER. AND THE TRUTH ABOUT SORT OF A STRUCTURE OF THE MIRDDTERMS IS THERE’S ENTHUSIASM FOR DONALD TRUMP BUT MORE -- HIS OWN FAVORABLES ARE HIGHER THAN THEY HAVE EVER BEEN IN HIS NATIONAL POLITICAL LIFE. DO YOU THINK LIZ CHENEY FEELS CONFIDENT ABOUT KEEPING THE SEAT IN CONGRESS? >> LOOK. I’D LEAVE THAT TO WYOMING VOTERS TO DECIDE IF CHENEY STAYS. IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENT YOU RAISE AN INTERESTING POINT. CHENEY IS TAKING A BET THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH REPUBLICANS OR HISTORICALLY REPUBLICAN PERFORMING VOTERS. MIGHT BE INDEPENDENTS OR SOME SOFT DEMOCRATS THAT ARE WILLING TO GO ALONG WITH THIS KIND OF LIZ CHENEY MOVEMENT. BUT AGAIN IT COMES DOWN TO WHETHER OR NOT THE NUMBERS ARE THERE. WE DON’T KNOW IF IT IS. ONE THREAD THAT’S INTERESTING THAT REPUBLICANS DON’T WANT LIZ CHENEY FOCUSED ON IS REPUBLICANS AS CLOSE AS THEY ALLY WITH DONALD TRUMP DON’T WANT TO RUN WITH DONALD TRUMP IN 2022. THEY WANT TO RUN AGAINST JOE BIDEN AND THE REASON CHENEY COMPLY COMPLICATING THAT REPUBLICAN PATH IS TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND JANUARY 6 RIGHTLY SO I WOULD THINK AND REPUBLICANS SAY NO, NO, NO, NO, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON RUNNING AGAINST THE BIDEN AGENDA. WHERE REPUBLICANS ARE DISINGENUOUS SAYING HE IS TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAY AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TOMORROW SHE HAS TO BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP DIDN’T GO AWAY. IF DONALD TRUMP WENT AWAY AFTER THE PRESIDENCY AND WASN’T A PRESENT DANGER TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE REPUBLIC AT LARGE PERHAPS THEY WOULD HAVE A CASE TO MAKE BUT DONALD TRUMP IS CLEAR, CONTROLLING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND TODAY’S REPUBLICAN PARTY AMPLIFIES THE

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Length: 8min 21sec (501 seconds)

Published: Wed May 12 2021