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this is the jonco underground podcast number 104 sitting here with Echo Charles EC in the house post jiujitsu sure yes how was it today it was good today good good today um a lot of UPS a lot of downs you know but net net net good we're there it was it was one of those days where you feel like going when you're going in cuz let's face it some days you're like oh I don't feel like but I felt like see but you know I haven't seen a lot of the guys for a while mhm and there there's a good rolls good great rolles today yeah there's a uh a a time period for me and it's like two rounds deep mhm I'm sweating a warm feeling like [ __ ] in my body flowing yeah and then maybe seven rounds later six rounds later now it's like now everything's just like sweat everywhere and everything's slippery yeah but that time period those middle rounds it's like probably about six rounds yeah where you feel like you're not thinking about anything and it's just it's just the Jiu-Jitsu you're kind of just in there what is it slap bump roll just like who's next yeah Frick I was talking to some Bros the other day training after training you know the post trainining freaking debrief of life you know kind of thing and he was talking about work and work you know can be stressful sometimes he works down at the border MH and you know it's like stressful sometimes he was like bro but I like I need this Jiu-Jitsu I was like bro I was thinking about that so then this is why I know why there's probably a million more reasons why but let's say I'm stressed at work at home or whatever right and it's on it's and so when it incident happens that stresses you out or that makes you mad we'll say and or both and it goes in your brain you don't remember the incident from moment to moment to moment to moment it just leaves you with this thing in your brain that's like stress or piss off I'm pissed off whatever and then you forget about it but that feeling of piss off or whatever stress remains there cuz it's like Association right you know why it's there if you have to reference it but you just hold the feeling you and you're mad at everything now right because that feeling is driving your overall mood overall State we'll say so you got that so you get one thing happen two things happen five things happen at work one thing happened at home two things happen on the street all this stuff and now your brain has all these little stress patches on your brain and you know which each little one you can reference them but they're not constant it's just a little stress patch on your brain just compounding compounding anger and frustration exactly right now you get to jiu jits I roll with Joo I roll with Wes I roll with whoever I don't care I'll roll with a a white belt a lower belt I don't know whatever this guy's trying to choke me so all that that compounding stress or whatever you kind of have to push that aside because this is a new stress a new very acute stress that takes its place Joo trying to choke me well I better I better do something about that and I have the opportunity and capability to do something about that most of the time right so I got to deal with that stress Jo trying to pass my guard I'm getting tired freaking all the stress that comes with the the the J to Round right you get one you get two rounds you get three rounds meanwhile all those little stress patches that were they got to get pushed aside we don't have time your brain doesn't have time for that kind of stuff because jao is trying to choke me right now or I'm choking Joo see what I'm saying no nonetheless this is the way it works trying to choke we are trying and that trying creates a certain kind of stress good bad whatever you want to call it but it's there it takes precent over all these little stress patches that were in your brain because they're slowly getting push pushed aside you can't think about what happened at home at work or whatever while I'm trying to defend this joke it's hard it's very hard to think about that kind of stuff and in fact I can't even feel the feeling that that stuff created yeah because I'm feeling the feeling of Joo trying to choke me me trying to defend me trying to pass his guard me trying to do all this other stuff me being tired his sweat dripping in my eye me slipping on the like all this stuff is taking precedent over all of that stuff yeah and after a while all that stuff is gone yeah I was going to say that's the big thing is it's it gets it gets removed from the system exactly right now here's another this picture this picture this you were going to um you were eating dinner and you had uh meat you know steak on your plate and then you get done with your steak and now you put salad on on the same plate but there was like juice and blood and like whatever yeah and now your salad's got some of that left in it right that's kind of like what's going on dayto day so when you do Jiu-Jitsu that Plate's getting clean getting clean yeah it's getting clean and here's the good thing and you're right about it being cleaned because all those we'll call them stress patches they get pushed aside and actually at the end of the if you do one two three rounds they get pushed out of your brain yeah they reset you can choose to remember them later you can if you want but that's later whatever forget about that right now now they got replaced with by the way you have to literally choose CU they won't creep back in like they're gone right they it takes effort for them to especially to re-engage like the way that they were but anyway forget about that for right now so now cuz they got replaced with the stress of Joo trying to choke me me trying to choke him before the round ends and the stre and the street you know all the stress of a round of or two three four five six 10 rounds of Jiu-Jitsu all that stress replaced the stress patches right replaced them here's a magic part of Jiu-Jitsu once the 10 rounds are over you're done for the day all that stress disappears too joo's no longer trying to pass my guard that's all a memory I'm not tired anymore I'm recovering wait have I ever have I ever stayed in your head you when you left the map that's a whole different story that's a whole different story see what I'm saying that's a whole different conversation but I'm saying the the stress of you trying to pass my guard is not there cuz you're not trying to pass my guard that was the round we did that's not happening anymore me trying to choke you that's not in my in my brain anymore cuz that's done with it's not currently going on so it's not leaving me with any feelings now if you want to evaluate your performance and you get you know your you have goals attached to Jiu-Jitsu that's a whole different thing but I'm saying that's why Jiu-Jitsu eliminates the stress cuz you sent me you sent a meme the other day and it was a cat that was driving a vehicle and there was music playing and he kind of looked uh but the the caption was when you leave jiujitsu after getting Tapped Out by everybody everybody and you said it was a deep like there was meaning there's layers to that thing and this is It's that is like one of the funnier ones and I was like it has a lot to do with how the cat looks and just he's just going about his business but you can tell he has an internal struggle that's like the look on his face but he's still it's really funny it's me leaving the gym uh after I get tapped out from everybody and it's just like yeah it's freaking funny but yes hey that's real too but that's a different kind of stress like no one's really I mean unless you have Jiu-Jitsu goals that you're very attached to which is the thing I get it but unless you're like that you leaving the gym I don't care if you get Tapped Out by everybody you don't care you feel way better it's way better than the stress of Life I'll tell you that J is just jits is just for fun and you know even when you get Tapped Out by everyone which I have before I've gone to jits and got tapped up by everybody before when I leave the feeling of that is way better because there's so many good things that like you know overtly that came from it mhm so it's yeah it's different I mean yeah it sucks that freaking yeah it sucks even Tapped Out by you a bunch of times and then the text message reinforcing you remember when I talk to you out today I freaking all night yeah that sucks but you know whatever there's some fun to it for yeah check all right well there's a little Jiu-Jitsu unexpected Jiu-Jitsu intro that's real from your patch stress patch free brain I'm glad glad to hear about that I was thinking also it's a little bit from Jiu-Jitsu but tension even what we're talking about is tension and what I want to say I think often times people they don't like tension they think tension is bad and I wanted to say in many cases tension is not bad it's actually in a lot of cases good let me give you an example you're shooting a pistol one of the ways that they teach how to shoot a pistol is they call it the push pull method have you ever heard of that so you your your dominant hand is pushing and your support hand is pulling so you create this like Dynamic tension on your weapon um Jiu-Jitsu which we just talked about you're creating tension but you have a hook and you have a a frame right I'm holding your neck but I also have a crowbar in your I also have my forearm in your shoulder so there's a dynamic tension there's a tension there you can't get away from me but you can't come closer I want to keep you there I want to keep you in the right spot I do that if I let go my hook you walk away if I let go my frame you smash me I got to have those both those forces acting at the same time people on teams will have tension as well you have the person that's a big risk taker versus the person that's conservative right look we should just we should just go and execute this thing well hold on we need to cons you see what I'm saying there's a tension there the micromanager it's like we need to make sure that we're tracking everything that they're doing versus the hands offers no they could just kind of do what they want there's going to be attention there the person that's detail oriented like we need to make sure we're run the numbers on this versus the person that's like big picture oriented that's like well we we'll be good there's strategic approaches that have tension right uh you got one person saying look we need to keep the price down you got another person saying we got to keep the quality up those are there's tension between those two in the SEAL Teams speed versus security you can either go fast but we have less security but sometimes we say our security is our speed but there's a tension someone's like hey dude we should not we we need to set up uh security over there before we bound across that thing someone else is like hey dude while we're setting up security we could already be across so there's a natural tension there there's a natural tension high margin versus high volume right we just need to sell as much as we can no we need to sell stuff with a higher margin MH high quality high margin or like low quality high volume yeah long-term versus short-term all day there's a tension between those two things in business in life uh and then even within a company you can have departments and divisions that there's tensions between Seal Team 3 task unit Bruiser tension between Charlie platoon and Delta platoon there's a tension a natural tension in a normal company you get tension between sales and operations or tension between sales and marketing there's tension between these things and this is the thing these things are okay and these things are normal and and actually I think they're benefit icial because in that tension you find balance and you find Solutions so that's what we're doing as Leaders we are balancing these opposing forces did I say dichotomy maybe but that's what that's what we are doing we are balancing the tension between sales and operations between quality versus cost between speed versus security we are balancing these things and I would say as a leader lean a little bit into the underdog you know what I mean just to make sure that it's being heard it's being understood lean a little bit like let's support the underdog a little bit don't go overboard don't lean too hard but lean a little bit to make sure that you're that there's enough tension on the underdog you know kind of root for the underdog a little bit you know if if sales has these real Dynamic personalities and operations does and they kind of are like winning the argument lean let's figure out let's let's support let's let's balance out that tension a little bit so that's what we're doing we are constantly balancing these tensions and we're utilizing tension unfortunately like I said people often see tension as bad and and that causes problems because what we try and do that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on on the Joo underground podcast so if you want to continue to listen go to Jo underground.com And subscribe and we're doing this to mitigate our Reliance on external platforms so we are not subject to their control and we're doing it so we can give you more control more interaction more direct connections better Communications with us strengthen this Legion of Troopers that are in the game with us so thank you it's Joo underground.com it costs $818 a month and if you can't afford to support us we can still support you just email assistance atjo underground.com and we'll get you taken care of until then we will see you mobilized Underground
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Channel: Jocko Podcast
Views: 15,280
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Keywords: jocko willink, podcast, discipline, defcor, fredom, leadership, extreme ownership, author, navy seal, usa, military, echelon front, dichotomy of leadership, jiu jitsu, bjj, mma, jocko, victory, echo charles, flixpoint, underground
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Length: 13min 50sec (830 seconds)
Published: Fri May 17 2024
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