MACV-SOG veteran Nick Brokhausen, Ep. 76

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This is the one I’ve been waiting for. His books are two of my favorites. Far more funny than any war memoirs have a right to be. Highly recommend the Audible versions, excellent narrator.

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having issues but go ahead [Music] dave looks like every combo man i've ever worked i wish i were sweaty earphones on and you know they're talking to some kind of warble with london you know and they got the barbed wire fence being loaded up as a reflector what are you doing i'll be back with you later all right guys we are live this is episode 76 of the team house i'm jack murphy here with co-host over over over this area dave park we are here today with our guest nick brockhausen a vietnam veteran served in mcv sag doing clandestine operations across the fence he is the author of whispers in the tall grass dave you have we few that's his uh his first book we few and then he has a new one coming out later on this year in 2021 that we're going to talk about a little later so nick welcome to the show how are you fine thanks for having me on absolutely man we really appreciate it and i i just want to say up front that you are probably the most requested guest we've had i've had so many people hit me up saying you got to have nick brockhausen on the show so you are you are a fan favorite from the get-go how many of them told you i owed money none of them none of them they've read your books and they really enjoyed them that's why they weren't that's what they all say that's how they get their foot in the door that's how they get you right that's right hey you owe me a rolex so nick really the first way we usually get started on this show other than having a a few whiskies is uh we ask our guests what their origin story is uh if you were you know spider-man got bit by a radioactive spider how did you find your way into special forces how did that whole deal come about it was a dark and stormy night you know underneath the 5 000 watt radio station um i grew up in minnesota and you know we basically you know we i grew up north dakota and minnesota on farms and you know in old america where everybody learned how to do things like fix a carburetor and uh you know we did a lot of hunting a lot of fishing and it seemed natural and in those days when your country called you went it wasn't any question you got a draft notice or didn't like to draft notice you enlisted in the air force and uh you know what it whatever you wanted to do so i i graduated into in into the military basically at the base level of uh you know a rifleman and uh you know went through the my first combat tour was as a as a wife and i was laying on the side of the road trying to decide whether i was going to actually re-enlist and i saw this fella coming up the road some tall long lanky looking fella and tiger stripe fatigues carrying a swedish k with a silencer on it and they had like about 40 of what looked like brigands behind them with all this man jewelry hanging all over them you know knives grenades and that asked the surgeon i said what what's that and he goes well that's one of those snake eaters and so what's that he goes well you know green berets special forces he said where's your officers and he goes they don't have any so i knew exactly where i was going to go after that i made that path that we all made to get into special forces there's a lot different in those days one thing i can tell you if you get caught with a rucksack full of cantaloupe and camp mccall that you snuck out prolonged from a field and brought back to the other rats in your tent if you get caught you will eat all of them and you will probably have diarrhea for about three years [Music] things were different in those days they you know i think the last time i went down to mccall years ago and that i was just amazed at the place and what they were doing there the different programs and that so i went through all that when i um you know went back to nam i basically got shanghaied by a friend i was supposed to go to the mike force which is a nice place because there's 240 other targets out there for the uh oriental gentleman to shoot at rather than just you and i got i sent this guy bernie o'connell to check on our orders and he came back and he goes i got us a really good deal and when somebody one of your friends says something like that the first thing that happens pucker what's his deal he's it's it's an all volunteer outfit and people are are in line to get into it right there you know that's a lie right there i said what's the name of it he goes it's max sog and the place we're going to is ccs and it was like somebody shoved a hot electrical wire up my anus because i had met a couple of guys that had come back from there like party bachelor's brother who was mad as a merchant and they you know i mean there were good combat troops in that but it was like everybody avoided them like they were lepers so anyway we we ended up going up to da nang and got dialed in up there and um you know for the next uh several months i had the joy of running recon so you got put in command and control north uh could you tell us about like getting introduced to your team uh getting introduced were they mountain yards were they nungs uh who who were the in did you work with rt habu i i first got introduced to the americans when i got there because captain manus decided i was a smart ass and said well i'm just going to put you in there with two southerners and see how smart-ass you are so i ended up on rt habu and and uh monyards for that team were all brewed most of what we used up in command control north were sedang brew rade and some giraffe very futurised then vietnamese and some cambods and gnomes chinese milks and so the teams are made up but you usually didn't have a mix of gnomes and monitors or nuns and vietnamese you know it was if he had a nung tamiya that known hendricks had another king he could never pronounce her name so he named him after gabby duck's nephews huey dewey louis all that and louis could speak perfect american english and he was always trying it out on people like you know like donut dollies and it was ugly every time so you know usually the teams were based on whatever ethnicity that you were running brew sedan the sedan are cool because they filed their teeth so they you know they look like wolves when they smile at you good lord now we need to talk about well they're from the central highlands yeah when you talk about the brew and the sedan and then those are all various tribes of the mountain yards oh yeah it's the daga people dagon and you know they're what's out about them is they're an old people going back neolithic they actually have in their war their verbal lore the of hunting elephants with long hair they originated up in china somewhere and then you know as everybody came in they gradually compressed them down into the into the peninsula and into china that's amazing and the their related to them the you know there's i used to have this book which i loved it was all the tribes all their cultural things and that and somebody swiped it from me at a party one night it was it was actual fm you know the yellow covered cover with the fm 24-1 squirrel five you know the usual stuff but it was a great book yeah and then and the mountain yards are an amazing people just right out of the iron age imagine that warrior culture from your iron age and then you stumble in there with all these man toys like machine guns and grenades and that pro popular guy and and some of these guys have been fighting for quite a while right you mentioned um in uh we few that like some of them had served with the french foreign legion during the industry award they spoke french they spoke german that brought a bong our thump gunner was also a shaman and and he had fought with force 36 you know the the legion grouped uh the strike group that went north trying to relieve gm foo and that as a striker at the age of 15. wow and here we are via vietnam and in in 70 and you know he's still plodding up and down the mountain hardcore hardcore and they you know they they just basically were trying to survive you know and everybody was fighting around him and they got dragged into it my yard team leader kuhlman had been fighting the communists for 12 years and they've already lost a family uh they'd come into his village and butchered his wife and kids so he had no love for him yeah then the brewer grew man i mean no matter whether they're like we retreat we recruited bonds uh out of uh out of the pow camp next door he was a former nba sapper commander but he was blue and blue go hey he wants to come over and fight with him hey you trust him i'll trust him i trust you guys except with my money on my rations was i mean was it pretty was that fairly common to find uh mountain yards who had been with the nva for whatever reason and oh yeah well we had chewboys too you know there was a huge pow cam right next door to ccn we used to get drunk and then go take cs grenades and shoot them into the compound just to keep the mps in them on their toes but that's who overran the camp in 1968 the sappers came in from the sea a company and their plan was to kill as many americans as they could take the arms and arm the pow camp next door and then just sweep into da nang and and some kind of concerted effort yeah so so you uh arrive at as you refer refer to it as chuckletown north uh and so when you get there how is that different than how you'd been trained because you had just been through the q course you'd just gotten trained up as as sf right or or you'd uh wait i mean you you i you know later on i talked to guys from your generation and the generation before that you know that we're between me and you and they go what kind of selection course did you go to i went through sf training because it basically was just another assignment the only difference was it was voluntary and they didn't tell you why it was voluntary until you got there and found out what you'd be doing and at that point you're screwed who's gonna go well you know i i really don't think this is for me and that you know and get off the truck right so you get shuffled down to recon company and next thing you know some gentlemen are walking out there patting you on the cheek and going take this bag of grenades but it might need it yeah you said the peer pressure was fairly quickly i'm sorry you you said that peer pressure was a huge motivator while you're there right i mean and it's not just pure pressure it's it's you're there with brothers and arms and the desire to perform to standard um so when you show up at a unit like that whatever your expectations were or weren't did you find that everybody who showed up there or almost everybody who showed up there just put in maximum effort especially since the high casualty rates and and everything like that we're in the ranger break yeah yeah same thing yeah yeah peer pressure you know and then and we i like to think we invented it gave it to you kids but uh you know and that lineage goes along a long way back i never wanted to be anything but special forces when i mean that was the the epitome of well first of all i read in playboy magazine like 1965 that the most wanted person to be at a party in hollywood was a green beret and i figured that was my path to hanging out with women who didn't complain about the way i smell so i mean it was just like being a ranger you know and i knew all the early rangers when you guys got the ribbon the 75th ranger ribbon and that that came out of vietnam and and usually it was they had i think it was a company with each division in like four four different companies zabatowski was one of our medal of honor winners was also in the rangers there tommy shook was in the ranger hall of fame who should have been arrested for littering uh as in was in that that group clem lemke you know lot a lot of good guys you know that's what formed up the the heart of that and you know how it is in the range of battalions is you're just not going to say no i mean you have to be scared everybody's scared crapless is that good enough are we getting with the sensors no we're all good yeah jack was just kidding when he said this was pg-13 you can say whatever you want we really yeah we are mark yeah you can you you can [ __ ] [ __ ] ass balls [ __ ] yeah these two youngsters don't know what they wandered into that they yeah well so to answer your question that you know when once you got there most i think of maybe we had guys to quit because it was voluntary and and like i said in my interview on c-span there's no stain against iran because once you realize what you were doing it's not for everybody right you know there's there's people that that choked up couldn't you know and guys that ran three or four missions and were doing fine and they finally hit that one bright light where you're down to your last eight rounds of ammunition you're shot the guy you went in to get shot you're trying to make your perforated ass back to the helicopter and that was it you know it it just stopped yeah you wrote about that in uh whispers in the tall grass too a few different guys you knew who they it was time they punched out they're like i'm done and you're like you know that's that's the mature decision to make at that point when when you've really you know your nerves are frayed to that point yeah well i'll give you an example we had a really good guy former marine um all right because you know he'd been been in combat before and that but just when we got on the ground we came back and uh and the the yard team later said he's not going out with us again because if he goes out with this again we're going to kill him but just they if the yards didn't like him he was out and and he went from there to become the best ast that we had at the top the guy who brings you your target folder and tells you this is the intel for the last five years you know these are after-action reports and that really good guy really good guy but you know the yards made the decision no you know we we don't trust him like you chauncey that's of course because he didn't owe many money so tell us then about uh you know your first mission with mac v sock i mean you get on the ground boots on the ground get introduced to your team what's the job well i uh first of all the other half of my soul is a guy named lemuel mcgrother and i pronounce it lemuel although he can pronounce it lemuel and he's a little short alabaman gator runner in that and he's the other half of my soul so we bonded right from the beginning and it was i mean it's that's the way it is i mean it's either you do or you don't you don't click or you do click so we've done a couple of training things you know where uh went out to cover somebody doing something out you know wesson came back and then my first real recon mission was in a place called dm 10. dm10 is demilitarized zone target number 10 which is a huge extinct caldera and it's got the spine crater all the way around except on one side and a trail coming up the middle of it it was probably a meter meter and a half wide and we dropped in yeah we'd read the you know all the intel data and that there was supposed to be a division in that area they were all there right there we lowered our came in on the lz got off matt got off the chopper he was in the chopper ahead of me he got off the chopper and he fell in the entrance of a bunker upside down with his rucksack facing down into the hole and then he's squabbling around like some kind of turtle in that and the pilot starts to pull pitch and pull out of there and i told him put me on the ground he wouldn't he started kept doing it so i shoved the gun in the back of his helmets and put me on the ground he can't fight with three guys we can fight with seven so they put us on the bunker in about 20 minutes we were working all the year we could find everything cubby could call up you mean the fast movers a1 e's you name it and just to get our sorry ass out of there but that was my baptism of fire and i came back and mack told me he goes the yards likey and i go why he says because you scream when you're shooting so that that bonded me to the team that's awesome how was given war yeah how is that different than your experience as a rifleman with the infantry right you never know where you're going you have no idea where you're going you just you walk and you plod and people shoot at you and people fall down beside you and you get up repeat the whole process over again now and that you know that gets scary so that the the major difference is that whatever you know whether you're a marine or army rifleman or you know the grunt um that that's your life misery cold and heightened moments of sheer terror inner space with uh hope i don't forget what women smell like [Music] so you do the first mission and mac i guess tells you that uh that they want to take you on something easy for your first mission right well that was easy yeah they actually we were supposed to go on an easy mission and the team ahead of us got shot up running a bright light on another team so they moved us into their slot with the target we were supposed to be just south of there in another six by six no bomb box and as well that you were down here and you studied the intel and that is pretty much the same up here i mean where you put the overlays on you can't see the contour lines because of the enemy unit oh yeah so that's how we got the card so for people who haven't read your book yet because i'm sure they will after this what is a bright light team the bright light team in the beginning they used the hatchet companies which were set up pretty much like like the mic you know um shock troops go in you know do raise do ambushes do rescues whatever and it it eventually became too complicated because there's too many of them to haul in and haul out so we started running our own what we call bright light which is basically a rescue mission you you have a team on the ground that's so shot up that it can't get to the helicopters on its own or they just need to be beefed up so you can shoot your way up and uh normally in the normal rotation of things was that you would leave da nang go to the launch site either in fubai or in quantrie and you would sometimes they send teams up there to do nothing but bright light and they were usually heavy chains teams that run in 8 10 12 15 people uh and and then later it got to be you were on the draw you got a mission there's three teams up there when one goes in the other two actors and then when he comes out they switch places and that until they rotate the teams back to the bang and bring up a new batch of lucky winners or for their lottery and it's it's complicated we developed a lot of tactics that you guys use later um you know things like you got to clear everything in front of me so you use the air using dropping heart bombs dropping a palm dropping don't drop cbu because you may have to walk through it later ones that didn't go off will but you know use air support to clear the area in front of you or blow blow an lz that's closer to the team because you can't possibly drag them a kilometer and a half to the the only lz in the area um i never went in and repelled it i always went in on something that was either an old bomb crater or was it big enough to get one ship in and a lot of times we we blew lz's with using the claymore with the ring main made it with uh you know the dead cord in between and you drop the trees and it still doesn't make a flat landing place i don't care what hollywood says a claymore does not clear off the tree and the ground and make it look like it was manicured but big splinters and [ __ ] sticking up that the helicopter guys don't like so but um but the bright light is basically a rescue mission you go in shoot your way in hopefully you don't have to shoot your way and air air support to suppress them enough to hold them back but if you have to shoot your way in gather up all the wounded and dead try and drag your perforated carcass back to the helicopter when you talk about the bright light teams and shoot your way in can you tell us a little bit about like the statistics of mac v song and particularly like ccn like i don't think people understand just how lethal that assignment could be lethal yeah just what the life exp like how uh well in terms of in terms of how risky it was for you guys well i've watched a lot of war movies the the closest depiction i saw what actual combat is like is uh saving private ryan i mean the photography on that and how they followed you know and the sound you know the sound of a high velocity round going past your mortal coil sounds like a crack the louder it sounds the closer it is to your mortal coil but there's there's so much noise on a battlefield especially in the situations that we were in because we were using air power to save ourselves to soften them up back them off get them to the point where we could do the rescue or or whatever or if you were a recon team and they'd run you run your ass to the ground they're trying to kill you you bring in as much air support as you can god bless the aviators don't ever tell anybody i said this they saved our cookies on so many occasions hey you know you gotta when we started the special operations association we were only letting associate members in you know people that had been in the marquee in world war ii they the soa was for recon only some of you guys forgot that and then it changed into all of sog and the first people we let in were the avian because they flew us in and then they were dumb enough to come back and pick us up so we considered them brothers in arms and they and it really wasn't combined arms the tactics and the and the way of working that we developed through our missions uh went a long ways all the way into uh desert storm you know and and beyond to say you know and i'm happy to say i didn't write the book tilt meyer wrote the book and if you want to blame somebody blame him we've had tilt on the show before perfect hi joe hope you're enjoying wherever you're at he's doing good he moved to uh nashville i think he's in tennessee i was trying not to give that up sure these guys are operators i'm bad i'm bad all right but no john's doing real well yeah i talked to him this afternoon oh right on yeah yeah so dave i hope i cast some illumination on it didn't ramble on to no no not at all i i just i was amazing you said that while you were there or when you first arrived that they lost like a team and a half or or something like that and and shortly after yeah it was like but then within before the month was up when i got there we arrived and there was see ccm was this big compound right on the seat right and that the front part of it facing the hard ball was a perforated steel plate landing field when i drove in the gate there was a cobra helicopter burning at the far end was still on fire and i i looked at bernie who was the guy who got us the assignment uh he goes uh i said bernie this doesn't look like one of those show camps you were talking about this looks like it might be a little more serious so you talk about the bright light teams and your second mission was actually as a bright light correct we did great lights all the time okay i mean you were you were there to run recon right and and the way that it was organized and like i said you know after a while the hatchet companies couldn't keep up with the tactics that the north vietnamese were using because we were there we're shooting fighting with them and all that we knew how they were going to operate especially when they came in with any anti-recon units you know would run your ass down and kill you they'd use the green troops to take casualties to get enough close enough to get on your belt buckle and then they'd kill you and they were all i mean these were tough guys and i found out later most of them were ncos but they'd taken them from other units hand-picked them and that put them in special formation the good thing about uh mr chuck he was on the learning curve all the time and if you weren't you were dead yeah uh all right so then we move on i'm just kind of going by your book if you don't mind um uh the bandit brandy um i knew these little suckers come up the titles well bandy brandy i actually went to taiwan and i got a book on merrell's marauders because they have no copyright laws there i bought hundreds of books and i was shipping them back to my brother right from taiwan when i went over on rnr well actually go over on the cck flight so it doesn't count as an r r which is uh when they sent the blackbirds over that we were using there they were getting you know they checked your oil wiped the windshield do all that [ __ ] then they'd be three days five days in taiwan so i got this book it was about merrell's marathon they were talking about when they brought him back from the kakima airfield fight they were all malarial and shot this [ __ ] they brought them back to a rest area which was by a stream and everybody was washing you know getting back into eating food and not being shot at all the time and they gave the officers a bottle of liquor each whiskey stock whatever they had and then list of men got two cans of stale three two beer per man and while they were in the nest area so they had been with the natives long enough the natives would tell them while you make band of brandy well how do you make brandy brand first you get a lot of tropical fruit well first thing you get is a 55 gallon gas straw you put it in that fast-moving stream and throw sand and gravel in there until it scours out the inside so it's like stainless steel then you set it up on dry land dry it out and you fill it with tropical fruits guavas you know monkey [ __ ] whatever and it goes in there and then then on top of that they'd put marijuana and then they would cap it you remember that old plastic from world war ii that real thick plastic they used to use for bunkers and [ __ ] like that that's a little bit weird time nick i'm sorry they would cap it with that and then tie it up tape it up whatever they did in those days and put it out in the hot sun and let it bake for about five days when the black plastic swelled up so it was kind of a gray looking balloon on the top of it they would pop it pull all the marijuana out of the top put it on a perforated steel plate let it dry out for the natives consumption later and then they would drink it it was called band and branding now they put the opposite each officer's bottle of blinker went in there too the scotch the bourbon and uh i decided to recreate that and uh we made it on uh thursday it was because the weather was sucked in the air we were closed down for like a week week and a half and uh and that was up north so no no teams are going up to quantria and that so we made this concoction up i remember getting a canteen cup full of this stuff on a friday afternoon i woke up in the mine field on the on the east end of the camp start naked with that canteen cup and it was still about a quarter full and everybody in the camp was looking for who did that dick did this you know a bunch of little rats so it was it was an interesting experience and better than the stuff you know the yards used to make this thing out of rice wine rice you know they keep pouring mom pay they keep pouring in water the more water they put in the drunker you get this stuff was better than that much better than that and captain maynard's tell me what up well he started off with scoundrel and i went to demon within about three sentences now uh was this about the same time uh that you woke up someplace you didn't expect to wake up woke up in the morning that was like a weekend later how did you wake up in a morgue well dr catrell who's actually a staff sergeant i got first thing you learn in recon don't get drunk and stay in the recon pool you may end up at part of a nordic funeral and a boat made out of blown up prophylactics and rubber gloves or you could end up like babe the morning so i'm freezing i came out of whatever alcoholic stupor i was in at the time and i'm freezing i'm going under little shits locked me in the meat box so i went to sit up it was dark went to sit up my head hit the top or whatever i was in within a couple of inches and about the time i was recovering and i was inside a plastic bag and i'm going look up what have they done with my mortal coil so about that time the thing behind me clicks and the shelf rolls out and i'm in the morgue on one of the shelves and there's a there's a black speck four has got a clipboard and he's writing down the toe tags of all the dead that are in there and i rolled out and i sat up and that's the last time i saw him he disappeared so fast he dissipated thought and about a minute after that all these nurturing doctors come running in with the paddles and everything and they're going yeah you know hold still you know you've got you know we want to make sure you get away from me i got that a tray that was playing the guy who had the clipboard trey was laying on the board holding off the doctors and the nurses going get away from me but what had happened is i passed out and they took me down to the board put me in a body bag and slammed me in one of the drawers that my toe hurt so bad it was it was like swollen to six times its size because there was a toe tag you know when on the corpse you put the cause of death and date action and all that and they twisted the wire down with a pair of pliers so it cut off all my circulation of my toe so it was like this big around and i'm trying to limp around with that toe tag and i was looking at it and the cause of death was bomb and i'm going i was in a bomb i wonder if i'll get some off time well um do i get you know they had to go on what do they call that uh when you're not available for work profile can i go on profile yeah then they add insult to injury they sent stevie comerford with me again picked me up he was an ea and and steven comerford had a plate in his head and he also had orders from doctors never to use alcohol pharmaceuticals or gun powder uh and he did was doing all three he got he got in a dsc in korea with the regimental combat team he was the friend of the guy who went and found his friend that got us into ccm they'd all been in korea together yeah that that crowd and they sent him to pick me up and he's like he's like he looks like a deranged wolverine he's like wow that was a little rascals uh when you get back i'll guess you'll have to have a chat with them yeah when i got back i was looking for some [ __ ] killing hardware yeah i mean a lot of crazy things go on when you well you guys were both there you know what it's like in the zone it's not like gee well you guys are different i in fact we went back a while back and we were talking to some of you veterans and they were going wow you guys did this [ __ ] got away with it let me tell you something we wouldn't lasted five minutes in your army had three duis and three consecutive nights the last one he ran over the mp stand these officers have really taken all the fun out of war i think uh it's just terrible they can never take the fun out of war they're trying they're trying well they try yeah it's adorable yeah sure lieutenant got anything more on that the first one before we go well that was one of the things that struck me about your book is it as much as it is about your combat operations it's also about your shenanigans and and yeah that uh so much of that stuff would not have flown at all in in today's military what are you drinking there brother is that buffalo trees no toxic toxic what is it we can see toxic toxic toxic masculinity it's his whiskey we'll get into that later all right well you know i had a lot of people that call me talk to me and they go uh you know you guys were jeep stealing hellraising you know heathens if that's all they got out of the book they missed the point of it you know we did all that and and then and i've talked to some of you youngsters i've got some stories about you that ought to be your friend wise followed by more lies yeah yeah yeah i remember that a team that found saddam's son's uh exotic car collection and were selling it into germany through the kurds to pay their intel assets that sounds like a made-up story no no no no no i know a couple of these raspberries but no as you said nick i mean you're you're in that place you're in a war you got to improvise and overcome i mean that that's like a super sf thing to do like you got a job to do how do you get it done i always consider myself a professional most of my commanders considered me as a management nightmare but uh you know i and i my generation and i've seen it amongst the younger generation we all treat special forces as a way of life not a job description you know it's uh we were there they asked us to do something we come up came up with ways to do it we suffered for it um we had the highest casualty rate of any unit in vietnam and uh yeah i know very few people that did a tour there that did not get wounded or at least wounded more than once yeah um but and you look at the numbers i think it was like i've seen varying that sound like there was 6 800 7 800 guys that served in ground combat operations and saw actual saw and out of that like 1800 or 1300 survive the war so you know it's uh we we lost a lot of good people but we got done what we set out to do and that's what inspired me when i went when i stayed in the army to stay in special forces and try to do just that same thing and then i got to tell you after the war we did a lot of really exotic things we went on mgt's the bolivia and trained the rinches the rangers to track down the bandits and the hills we went to uh went to zaire to uh give a jump master school that didn't turn out well um those those guys are dead now so it doesn't matter yeah but yeah we did a lot of different things in that we developed all kinds of different tactics and that if you follow the lineage of the 10 special forces group most of them were special projects people after because jim butler my rat brother-in-law who was the adjutant there was looking around for like minnie mac went to leavenworth as a prison guard you know guys went to become drill sergeants and all that he reached out for him through mrs a and pulled all those guys back into the tent group and that's what built the core of the 10 special forces group in the 70s you know and and dead a when i was at dead a there were at least 10 15 guys that had been in ccn ccs or whatever most of them are problem children but not me all that bad should happen after i left [Laughter] nick do you want to tell us about the donut dollies and and your fondness for them oh sure yeah but what are you trying to start ryan i got enough grief over it i became the most hated man in christendom over that well you know um the donut dollars did a lot of good they did you know but you know i i really didn't have all that much interaction with them that was not on a negative basis was there was you know they they come out with these stupid game when i was a grateful man they come out and there's you know brown eyed women oh god 270 smelly beasts and that you know they're up front holding up these little outlines of the state going what state is this you know and the guy who gets it right gets to get an extra donut a handshake from something that smelled better than the rest of them and yeah i think that the crown of that was louie remember it's telling you about the chinese the gnome that little bastard we were at you the launch quantity getting right i'm trying to leave and go back to da nang because i've already done my bloodletting and henry's team came in on a c123 blackbird and they had donuts and the donut dollies come out this one actually looked like a horse she had this face that i swear to god looked like a horse and the other one was some you know rubenesque product from ohio and they came off that thing and they were absolutely invictus let me find someone to report this to and they're going past us and hendricks and this team comes up now these are all gnomes right and hendricks is arguing with louie glenn why did you start that i mean what were you thinking well what had happened they were on the plane and these two women took offense that there were gooks on the train on the plane oh my god why are we flying with these goops these gooks do this these goops do that and louis got up and he goes well i'm sorry you feel that way about us but we're going on a particularly dangerous mission i happen to own a whorehouse in the tram and i'm pretty sure i could get more than five bucks for the two of you if you had a trapeze in your ass they screwed right into the ceiling were barking at the plane crew or whatever when they landed you know they went huffing off to get that they came back with the mp we were taken off because the guy on the on the caribou goes you need to get on now because they're talking to the tower and the mps are on the way and then we got on and hendrix went up to infamy or whatever he was doing with his star english student and uh we managed to get back to the name yeah so they're the last the last thing they're expecting is for a a vietnamese or you know to stand up and imperfect american english tell say a joke like a special forces guy like that must have been shocked years years later i was uh i was in new york city with a friend who uh wanted to introduce me to the tongs and uh we went to the i don't know the dragon the retribution restaurant or whatever they were supposed to there was a big meeting we're the only white guys there and uh there's thrills and he goes well the tongue leaders coming in from uh from dallas big tongue leader and i'm sitting there at this table with these chinese fellows and that my friend and the big commotion at the front of the hall and this guy comes in everybody's like kissing his hand bow and do him and everything and i look up guess who it is no [ __ ] way yep yeah he goes oh chug c well this is good this is not gonna be well i can front you a kilo anymore when you say the tongues you're talking about the chinese mafia yeah yeah well you know that's who brought the the gnomes out of vietnam the taiwanese tongs and that they actually managed to get him out of vietnam i probably shouldn't be telling you this on the opening line well you you're not i'm 73 i really don't give a [ __ ] yeah it's between you me dave and the internet yeah and we won't tell ya these guys are lying i could tell they look like [ __ ] radio operators neither of us are smart enough to be radio operators to be honest with you no that's pretty accurate uh yeah so yeah well you know yeah we'll get into it later but uh our book that we wrote together and that was about what we did after we got out of the other military and then and you guys you know you got to remember that you're going to make mistakes yeah if you can atone for your mistakes and keep moving forward great if not get divorced find a young chick with really you know an arthritis problem and one of the missions you wrote about in your book uh was the insertion that you and mack had uh where you observed a road repair going on and then i think kind of on the fly right decided to turn that into uh a prison uh grab a bruiser yeah yeah well you know a lot of the stuff we were doing was trying to find their network uh you know highway 912 the ho chi minh trail was made up of complex of smaller trails and that you know they like built things underneath the canopy they built false roads so that the the air support would be flying looking for trucks and they're nowhere near that because they're over here the whole side of the hills moving that's all those trucks under under leaves and then and we were doing a lot of area recon to kind of uncover that find out what the what the matrix was now the secondary mission was we were trying to find our headquarters if we could find the headquarters we could find the high speed trails they normally they uh the north vietnamese weren't stupid they did a lot of coaxial cable combo line we did wiretaps [ __ ] like that but a lot of times they'd said courier and we figured if we could grab a courier we could grab his packet at the same time and we noticed the road building we figured out that you know we could probably grab a prisoner so we called up cubby told them we think we can we're going to interdict this trail somebody put some heat on these people so somebody starts moving around these trails and that said a cubby brought in airstrikes and those airstrikes scared them up and they started running the trails and that's how we grabbed the guy eventually lost the movie we grabbed the gun now when you say you lost them so you grabbed this guy airstrikes are going on how did you x-fill on strings they pulled down on string and and the way we lost them was kuben cut them loose they were hanging on the strings together and the guy bit him in the face and he just cut his room we went oh there goes seven hundred dollars yeah so you're on a tenant you got a bonus when like the yards you get one month pay and you know you get to go to taiwan for five days and take yourself into the stupor and convince yourself to get on the plane and come back so you were on and these guys are drinking scotch for crazy that's a girl's drink we're fancy [Music] men drink rye and older mature men mix it with absinthe with was absinthe yeah you got you got more hair on your bowls than i do nick i'm not afraid to admit it i don't have any hair on my balls and actually i don't have any balls i left it in some woman's purse he doesn't have any hair either mostly frightening and i guess the fat naked guy that runs around in my bedroom so you did say we could say anything anything it's on it's on so i i think that that uh our viewers would i need to understand that when you say you went out on a string you went out on on stable basically you had a harness and they came and they basically just yanked you correct you're wearing a stable ring which is basically a parachute harness yeah i mean it got simplified it's not like the b12 um harness and that it's it it got down to straps and you know all the basic linkage and that you bring it up you can hook your legs in and your butt's in and and all your web gear is on that stable ring all your ammo pouches all your everything there's connected to that and it's got two d-rings up here that when they throw the string down it's got two hooks on it that you clap two snap ones you put into there and then go down 120 foot rope that they lift up to the canopy and hopefully you fly off like mary poppins that's strings and so you get picked up and you're on a different string you and mac are on a different string than the prisoner uh now you're you're hooked together okay when you get on the strings you're all together and you hook snap legs into each other okay and we we figured we figured out we wanted to send the prisoner out first and we put cumin and chua on the strings with them because we were high algae we were up by the ash on the on the west rim and they were pulling them out at that altitude you didn't have a lot of lift capability for weight so there's like three yards on it we said well great we'll get him out and then we'll come out afterwards so we had conan two and a prisoner oh and one other yard the lightest one tt lloyd and then mack and i and the other four yards came out on the second string so we're hooked together like this and we see him ahead of us and all of a sudden one of the dark spots underneath the helicopter just drops off what had happened was a guy he was dressed up with tight you know the plastic cups and then and uh he had gotten us swinging back and forth and his scapula came loose and he kicked away from cumin and when he came back he grabbed onto cumin with his teeth in his face bit him right here holy [ __ ] and cumin just reached up and took a knife off iron around straight to the ground and when we got him on the ground he's going he's still spitting blood and everything he's basically number 10 pc don't need bc no need prisoner number 10 okay that sounds good for our next trick we'll go and see if we can kidnap a tank so uh i mean you went into your book also about how they i keep coughing like that not because i'm a coke freaker i have coconut yeah we don't pry we don't cry whatever you want to show you can share i love this he looks just like the captain away well we're not here to judge uh you talk about um uh like prisoner fever where everybody starts getting the bright idea that now we like every op needs to be is centered around and snatching somebody you know the most valuable prisoner that they grabbed when i was there was grabbed by eldon bardwell oh you know who else he's a legend i knew him when he was a staff surgeon and he did not scratch his nuts with a salad fork but eldon grabbed a prisoner that was yeah you know what the prisoner did was he have italian commander or special ops or any recon guess what he did he was the cook and he had the roster of all the units that he was supposed to be she head down to last private they grabbed him with his rosters and his intel and all that and they knew every unit that was in the bowl on the gm10 the 309th hot rocket division battalion 4 major known yeah i mean you know everything he was a cook unreal you were going to get you know you hope that you get an officer with his uh you know map map case and all that stuff but you you might grab some guy that's just some scared private well the two guys with that officer were both privates both of them were brothers yeah and then eldenson also told me he found a place out there that was a a message and born in the north to die in the south carved into a tree wow i always used to carve into trees out there john wayne is my father didn't work no uh and then i guess one of the last things we'll cover from this book uh because i wanna i want you to tell the buffalo story but i want you to tell that like on the uh did he say that was the last thing no no no no no we don't already know little shit's kicking us but what what was the story you wanted me to talk and don't call it the story later actual account of the events on the ground well i would like you later on uh on sort of our exclusive to tell the factual events of the buffalo uh that you witnessed um what the buffalo yeah they're talking about boudreaux with his [ __ ] western novels and [ __ ] and yeah go and if we were and the yards want to sacrifice a water buffalo i mean it was like rained in there's nobody in the ao alright so they bring in a water buffalo they got this big rice straw collar and rope that holds the buffalo's head though stretch like this and the deal is very beautiful but i've done several of those yeah i also could do a chicken wait till later so they they bring this buffalo in they got you know boudreaux you got to remember papi boudreaux god bless his soul he passed a while back he was the reason that quantrie launched site ran he was a senior v8 um mean and nasty like a snake and uh major slant who ran the place and that him and the buddha and the medic were feeding on some kind of pharmaceutical cocktail they kept him in the oblivion until he signed papers but they ran the launch set the buddha was in his pooch and we got this big thing going on with all the there was four teams up there plus a part of the hatchet company are you know protecting the launch sector and they have this tent thing i forget what festival is you know that festival of buddha's shining balls or whatever and they're you're gonna sacrifice the water buffalo so the idea is that one man one of the money yards usually bong the shaman would stand there with this big long car looks like uh what's that japanese spirit saga you know it's got the big like buoy knife end on it big long thing and then one guy is to cut the buffalo's neck through with that and the other one is to stab them just behind the rib cage and disembowel the water buffalo at the same time [Music] and uh mac my little gator friend was the one with the hatchet to cut you know to cut the buffalo's neck and i the chump was the one with the spear who was going to disavow and we were doing the whole thing with the wine cloths and all that and uh matt takes his swing cuts the collar and the rope holding the water bottle down just about the same time i stick the spear in the side of the machine buff and disembowel and it didn't get all the way through because he turned on a dime like one minute he was facing that way and next minute these two really red eyes are like that far away from me and he's starting that blowing blood [ __ ] and that and we take off running we run underneath a jeep and the buffalo wandered rushes right over takes one horn flips the jeep off of us and then starts running around finally we we get past we go right past boudreaux's hooch and max slaps the door so it swings open and we run around the hooch and the buffalo go right into the ocean and and buddha was laying on his bunk reading zane gray or whatever it was and the buffalo came in just totally trashed his suit he had to roll the bed over on top of himself to protect himself and they ran the buffalo ran actually ran out the next the outside wall and then finally one of the yards shot him on an m79 and killed and i don't you know what a piss tube is oh you do well let's explain to the public what a pistol is that's where you take an artillery canister that holds an artillery round which is made out of aluminum and it's about where and then people that have to urinate or leave themselves come and pee in that tube so it goes down and becomes part of the environment the owls are friendly and the seals are living well i've done piss tubes for a month there were so many you could you could walk out any door of your hooch on that compound and within 15 steps have a piss tube near you that's how many we put in nice guy so i want to ask you some questions about your second book here whispers in the tall grass uh i'm going to go through something am i getting too long-winded no not at all no no no this is great uh i've got to i want to make sure for my fans so that uh speaking of speaking i'm gonna go through some of your favorite room here in jail uh that they're submitting um so joey says love what you guys are doing thank you joey uh anthony says due to your book the legacy of bandit brandy lives on at least in my unit what's your preferred recipe spill the beans mr brockhausen thanks i think you pretty much told your preferred recipe right i didn't give them the dosage what's the dose i could do that if he wants to text me on you know on signal which the nsa listens to and uh i could give him the exact dose send us an email anthony and uh we'll get we'll get to you on that uh douglas says does uncle nick have the pocket knife that he found in the world war ii plane wreckage still made by laguerre uh with the bee on it the classic knife maker for the french military and that's that's a story um you tell in this book do you want to talk about that for a sec yeah it was uh it was a driver uh we went up on yeah you gotta remember the aschow runs up north and it climbs up into the ocean plateau in a series of steps well my 30 meters and a 10 10 meter wide step and then 30 meters and 10 minutes or 10 meters whatever and at the far end of that is the area that slices off into northern lounge and we i don't know how we got this target i have no idea at all i don't know what they were looking for it was just it was an area recon to go in and see who's there and we we went in and the target folders were penn holmes would know because i think it was the ast on that um it was the the newest uh report aar on it was like 1965 or something like that and we're going [ __ ] okay you know probably nothing there we're gonna have a barbecue call in the highway patrol have a good time you know get some addresses and uh we launched in there we got in and it was from the very beginning it was spooky we got on the ground we started moving within the first 500 meters the yards were all jittery you know we never what's wrong with me i can go go check with bomb so i go back to bond with shame and i go what's going on he goes oh bad people state people what the [ __ ] are snake people oh no bad number 10 number 10 000 so we go a little bit further and we finally worked our way there was a like a cleft uh narrow gorge going up to the lotion plateau and it got narrower and narrower the heart the farther you climbed up we climbed up that for about a thick maybe a little more and as it kept going a big tumble boulders dip you know steep cliffs on both sides working our way up and that we we got to this place where we found this cake and this cave was you know that the the point came back and i think the point was uh some pot and some pot come back and his eyes are about this big around and he's going ooh number 10 they're going what do you mean number 10 oh my god he goes and talks to kuhlman and then kuma comes over number 10 that means really really bad so we go up and we look at it and it goes back in maybe 20 feet 30 feet something like that and then the back is i can describe it as a shrine there's a a bamboo pole and hanging from it is um the remains of a leather helmet plate helmet and a pair of goggles and there's all kinds of there's bare bear skulls in there you know bamboo bears and looking like going and everything's covered with mold everything mold and lychens and moss whatever went in there so i started to go inside and come and grabs my own oh [ __ ] don't go in so mom comes up to shame and he goes you know we must leave now so i'm still looking at this thing and i'm going wow that's weird as we climbed up the escarpment got on top we went about three hundred meters and they stumbled across uh an old french fighter plane from circa 1950s it's got that really weird dark green paint on it and that that they use um the whole one it wasn't that p47 it was a something like they called a buffalo or something that the frogs had a coffee maker in the cockpit kind of football and we so we're all over it the you know the thing the canopies have slid open climbed in top and then i i got got down inside and i'm digging around because all u.s fighter planes that went down underneath the ejection seat was a drawer that had a 22 caliber silent pistol rations antibiotics and in the form of blank slugs coins whatever usually around in those days fifteen thousand forty thousand dollars or whatever but it was that thirty five an ounce it was a lot of gold but when we went in on racks we always well we're there we're doing the government's work why not check right so we went underneath the seat and i found it was that tray was still there it had been pulled out it was the the sliders were there but the tray was gone they later found it over by the starboard wing and they were down in between the uh the seed brackets and that was this night it was all rusted in there from the weather and i dug it out it's a langolae langolae langalo and they are it means bumblebee and they are the official knife maker for the french military i still have it to this day every once in a while i go out and i prick myself with it just to make sure i'm still here and the uh the snake people they it turned out that they were another mountain yard tribe right the yards were scared to death they they said you know number 10 we don't don't look at them i found out later that uh coleman and tuad both looked up from where they were moving there was a a snake person like within five feet of them and they immediately cast their eyes down they they got they put it this way the north vietnamese weren't in that area for a reason and uh when we when we lifted out i remember looking back down at the lz and two guys showed up to my nerves primitives you know what one of them was carrying a map 49 submachine gun french bridge into a china war and the other guy was carrying pro arrow blow gun and and the usual man jewelry is like looking down and go wow where they got out of there yeah it's like looking into the past yeah i first thought they were democrats what was the fear because of uh like superstition was it because they were head under cannibals okay that's what i got out of bong like when we got back to the site i had to go through like two days of cleansing with you know herb smoke and all that [ __ ] rubbing copper pennies on my forehead my pecker and whatever they uh yeah bond told me he said uh these people eat other people and they take the heads and we all know that and we're all scared shitless of them basically um so aj gamble says thanks for another epic guest love his books uh uh douglas pack had a second part of that question uh what happened to your sog knife you were wearing on the cover of we few go on gone gone the cisco knives that they produce for the song knives and that wouldn't hold an edge and they broke a lot so you know i i wore the sog knife probably half my time there and then i i switched over to k bar and um you know that actually boys that i have here is a fair bit a knife that was made for me by a fan a fan there's a master knife smith that's all damascene steel and that's a copy of the m42 original commando knight that's awesome that's amazing so if any of you are out there thinking about maybe you know modding my authorial qualities and that knife would be nice so nick did you start using a k bar because in your heart of hearts you wanted to be a marine well actually i wanted to be a cook in the navy you know they got chopper cutlery for sure right now uh andrew is it better to be an exotic dancer andrew uh says i need to hear more about the zaire jump master course that did not go well master court insider oh no no no no no no no no you don't young man all right that's okay he has another question he is saying about you drinking absinthe he says what is he an 1890s bohemian crypto marxist literature professor so he's he's answering like he's on one of the second games what is uh what is that what was 18th century 19th century literature professor an 1890s bohemian crypto marxist literature professor shut up this guy said i'm telling you this guy's a troll he's from the democratic party oh yeah oh yeah we know renee we know where he lives we know where his children go to school uh hammer and nails thank you for the donation uh so nick a lot of um somebody donated to you guys because well yeah yeah we're getting forgetting the name rich because of you we're retiring after this show nick yeah well we need to get into the new book too yes we will that's we're going to talk on the bonus segment i just i just want to uh for a few minutes you're drinking toxic masculinity just slurping it down you're full you're full of toxic masculinity nick you look at them they're measuring the bottle i love this whispers in the tall grass this book starts off like you guys are in a lot of trouble your team and a lot of people keep asking in the chat here what the hell did cookie do your teammate that got you guys in so much trouble oh no oh no i don't know to this very day really nobody nobody ever gave up the secret of what cookie did i know that him and rocky sherman were involved in the ranger you know they're a little sicilian cab driver but uh whatever they did in saigon nobody would talk to him i mean the you know house 10 when they threw us out the air force crew that flew up they knew while you heard the guy so yeah well you know and when we got on the ground captain rob who was formerly in the phoenix project it was a god bless you solely past your last year and that but uh it was uh he was an enigma he wouldn't even tell us he just snickered at us and went but you guys are in trouble never found out don't want to know i think i think involved managing a pre-teenaged girl or something i don't know so a lot of what you write about in this book aside from the snake people that insane story is uh your team working uh to tap enemy combo lines with like induction cables can you tell us a little bit about that well the the that particular chapter where i was laying with my ass hanging out all over the place um the the first wiretaps we had were god-awful devices they were probably you know 13 inches long four inches thick and some kind of real real [ __ ] on them and that i'll undercover and they would only last for six or eight hours and then you had to go back and pull the spools off and put them back then they came out with a smaller unit that was really great and it would also you know the normal wire cap had like a pair of alligator clips that had like a like a long prong and you put it into the wire and then it would pick everything up it was some kind of radio 05b you know electromagnetic flux very girly and then they came out with one that actually wrapped around [Music] and coaxial with cable they still have little teeth in it but the big thing about it was the little cassettes would last for 24 hours so we i i only did one i did one successful wiretap and another one that didn't work out so where we didn't get any any traffic at all and they were a good idea because the north vietnamese knew they came up on the air uh but the moon beam or somebody like that be up there you know listening to what they were saying and doing the rdf and all that so they they went to using hardwired courier that's why we tried to do the prisoner statue because they we knew they weren't talking on the radio they'd use curiosity drop bombs on their little asses they'd get the couriers up and move and tell everybody what to do before they got up on the on the on the air so the wire caps were it was a tool the useful tool some guys got good traffic some of it's got mediocre traffic some of it's got you know doggy porn out of denmark who knows i think there's the first one you did you talk about how you're sitting there because it's like someone has to have eyes on the tap right or be close by it went down to change the tape and and that was when the nba were like doing a class oh yeah yeah they came up they you know i was laying there sweating bullets and uh well you had to go down change the tape they put it in the day before and i'd change the tape once and then i was going back the next day to change the tape back decided i was the best one because i was the best quality i could crawl without bruising the underbrush this is how he's explaining it to me and him and cookie are up there with the rest of the headhunters and they're covered me and i you gotta move real slow and you gotta remember the other guy is trying to stay alive just as much as you are and they're living in that environment that you're living in so every little thing like this insect stopping talking the bush goes silent bruises on plants and that all or indicators of just how close you are to getting your butts blown away so we're real careful about moving and it might take you i mean normally you can go from here to 25 meters and a couple of minutes or a minute [Music] there it might take you half a day to get there so but still within the constraints of what you got to do so i'm down at the thing i get the tape out i pull the gold tape put a new tape about 15 yards from where the tap is and i hear these people coming up well first thing i hear is a click on the emergency rate of your tent which means watch your ass something's happening and i go still and i hear these people come up from below me and behind me and it's about well first the first thing that came with two guys with the headphones and the minesweeper looking device that they use to check the load loss on the line that basically tells you whether there's a tap on or not right and they're going along the wire and then they laugh and then i started crawling back uphill and like 15 minutes later here they come i remember i'm trying to move slow at the same time and they they come up with about 20 25 people and they're they sit down on this little hillside on the other side of the trail and they start giving the class i mean i've been in enough classes i don't care if it's in lithuanian i know what's going on so i'm sitting there going oh [ __ ] and they go on and on and i i hear a commotion and then typical ncosha they hear this guy over to the cycle everywhere i was shot really about furry work and then a couple of slaps so then they come down they break down and they move off and i finally get up back up to the top of the hill and they ask back and go what's going on well they came back up to give a class evidently and we were laying there and we were watching make sure they didn't see i i've never felt so exposed in my life i was trying to be a dandelion i didn't make it and the couple of privates fell asleep in the back rank and that i guess one of the ncos went back there and jacked her ass up wake up you know and then they moved on and we were getting up there we were going to try and pull the tap so now we'll leave it here for 24 hours and come back and get it and i when i put it in i put a toe pop you know where the toe popper is that is a land mine designed to remove your lower leg and your junk so that's what they put in there and then i mousetrap the whole thing and we said well we'll just leave it in there we'll come back in 24 hours we got back up on top and about 15 minutes late before we were ready to move 40 guys came up and these were not a class they were looking for us either they noticed me you know oh look there's a meat eating gringo laying over there with his butt showing or they noticed a lion loss or whatever and they started hunting us and they found the tap when they found the tap the guy picked it up and blew up him or whoever was near it and then we do grenades and and never shoot remember grenades you don't have to clean afterwards and they don't give away your position they threw the grenades down there cookie lw there was a couple of wounded and yelled up at back you wanted want me to go get one of the bodies i said no we got to get out of here so we all danced and for the next i don't know seven eight hours we were on the run with them on us trying to box us in but that was the one successful wiretap we got about 18 hours of real good traffic on that tape where they could say well yeah this is the 309th heart you know hot rocket division commander's got piles and that coax cable was running along like what a ridge between two fairly substantial it ran all the way down that valley there was a juncture of like six trails where we knew that they were in there they had bunker complexes and all that we were slightly northwest of there up on the ridge where the main high-speed trails that would be used by the careers and people moving troops around and it was right along right along the trail i you know how i found it i was watching as my 1-0 was spent i had spent most of my vietnam career picking up after he tripped over something tripped over the wire and fell down the slope that's how we found nick uh you know we're just kind of scratching the surface of both of these books but i mean that's that's okay because people can go and read them for themselves um before we're gonna talk about your new book coming out later this year in detail on the bonus segment um with your code author and partner uh jeff miller um but for just the the mainstream audience the great the big bad world out there could you give a little bit uh like just a short synopsis of what the the new book is uh is about and the title first of all i'd like to thank my fans and those of you that hate me because it makes my life worth living and i i thank you all for that that would be my co-author who i've been together for 50 years worse than a bad marriage but anyway the second book is called vagabonds tourists in the heart of darkness third one what the hell is he doing with this thing is that the white supremacist thing it's a code segment how is that vagabonds is the third book right did i miss something there yeah oh yeah cool so uh jeff miller and i were in special forces uh at the tenth group and uh we did a lot of amazing things while we were there and then after after we got out of the military we decided to do something with their lives and in those days there was no contractor industry run by the fbi and the rent-a-cops so we had to invent our own in those days you had to find a project see somebody that needed something convince them that you were the solution and then go on from there so the book is snippets of 40 years of doing that you know becoming consultants to the mining industry helping people recover kidnap victims verifying computers the third book is about our wanderings for 40 years when is the book due out what's the release date and where can people wait i'll put my co-author on yes it was extremely handsome and invented tweed good evening jeff hello so where where can people go where can people go in uh pre-order vagabonds uh amazon right now i'm sure i'm trying to get myself centered here it's all good i'm sure once it comes out and being all the normal book purchasing areas but right now it's available for pre-order on amazon okay all right thank you oh vagabonds tourists in the heart of darkness and it's uh published by a company called case made out of london yep uh so we're gonna talk about vagabonds in depth with you and nick on the bonus segment um for everyone who joined us live tonight out there i just want to say thanks for coming uh spending some time with us and nick um please remember to like share this video subscribe to the channel if you haven't already tell your friends about the channel tell your dog about it uh spread it around as much as you can and down the description there's a link to our patreon page if you want to get involved in supporting the channel and get access to our bonus segments uh like the one we're going to do with nick and jeff in just a moment here jeff did you say vagabonds tourists in the heart of darkness tourist darkness yes dave did i uh forget anything to mention anything here tonight uh no i i don't think so do we have a do you have any more questions i don't next week uh episode 77 we're gonna have john gardner on who is the author of the fading light he served in the australian sas and the rhodesian sas and then south african special forces and became something uh the pejorative term a mercenary if you will uh after all that so he will be on next uh next friday we're excited to have him in here i'm like halfway through his book it's it's super so jeff nick thank you so much for joining us and uh for everyone who sponsors the show we will see you guys for the bonus segment so thank you everyone the bonus segment we are the bonus sounds cool i am the buddhist citizen hey what the hell
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Channel: The Team House
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Keywords: SOG, MACV-SOG, Nick Brokhausen, Vietnam, Special Forces, Green Beret
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Length: 93min 30sec (5610 seconds)
Published: Fri Jan 15 2021
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