Looking for Lost Manchester

[Music] hello my name is mar welcome back to another video so we're going back to our roots in this video back to where we started 7 years ago so we're going to go and look at some things we've seen before that are now changing some things that have gone and some things that we're looking into the origin of it so all will be revealed and we're going to do it via the medium of pubs nice nice pubs in Manchester anyway Where Have You Been um just been off yeah he missed the canal stuff so he couldn't he were working weren you yeah did you have a brew it's coming so made so the wind has made a bit of a booger up of the intro we're here in Angel Meadow or Angel Meadows as it's called by people that don't come from Manchester um uh 40,000 bodies are buried on the here it's used to be called new burying ground now it's The Preserve of designer sausage dogs anyway I'm talking rubbish let's go to the pub the first Pub I'm going to show you is a nice one is called The Marble [Music] Arch okay Marble Arch is a proper favorite of ours beautiful floor beautiful ceiling and a great traditional pub with a fireplace but we couldn't really talk in there so we're going to go out back Cheers Cheers so we're in the Marble Arch Pub uh have just come outside out back in the bay Garden anyway so the Marble Arch is just at the top end of G Street um and what's at G Street the Gas Works so I'm going to quickly show you the Gas Works and what's going on now so where you see the plant Machinery there underneath there and where the tower cranes are was all those chambers that we crawled in and out of of course there are some original bits which are there uh this wall but basically Apartments [Music] and just blessed by the sunlight is that one last remaining Arch on the perimeter uh the rest of them have gone I think we caught that you know just just at the right time in well like we say if it would a couple months later it would have been gone a couple months later it would have been gone yes so we caught that just just at the right time didn't we anyway so where are we off to First we've shown on the Gas Works that was an unofficial one where are we off to first right we're off to one of your somewhere from your early Beginnings I think yeah yeah we're going back to my roots if you like where we going James Lowry Bridge Lowry Bridge let's go and see what's going on down there there you go Union Bridge still there I think it goes back to about 18 5 that bridge it's very very very old uh called Union Bridge it's something to do with the unification of Ireland I can't remember it's in my early video anyway but uh not a very uh architecturally impressive bridge but nonetheless Union Bridge deserves its own uh its own little mention and of course that there is Roger Street [Music] right so we're right back at Our Roots now on this channel 7 years ago 2017 2017 I was down here making my first videos down there on col Earth Road and so we're going back to our routes I'm going to take you to uh the Lowry Bridge you'll know that one and we're going to look at what's going on because already this has changed this is changing uh so let's go and see what's happening down there is uh HMG paints and the Moss broke and we've done all that area around where we did a video on all that this was Logwood Mill if you remember all that um I'm hoping the path is open to the bridge cuz there's that much going on here I'm thinking can I still get to my old haunts in fact if anything it's a little bit more open than it used to be it used to be worse than this so I suppose it have kept it open cuz it's a public right away but what's going on underneath the bridge because uh if you remember back to those early videos it was not much more than uh an overgrown Carriage sidings let's go and have a look [Music] so it's a bit strange being up here and looking at it I'm glad I've come now to catch it before it's fully developed to see it at this stage but does anyone remember those videos I did in 2017 uh I didn't know you then I've never been here before you've never been before I didn't know Roy then either uh just used a toddle up here on me own and I was fascinated with the place I think that's when I started looking at maps and I started realizing that the changes that taken place and it all started here at colus Road and Lowry Bridge what was there before this well it was a carriage sidings oh for trains big Railway car siding yeah so the skylines definitely changed and you can see the car part there that was for the carriage sidings uh a lot more Towers now built there as you'll see in this next clip this is going to be a corridor of new developments but over on the right there far right we see the greenery that was a railway line and night we walked along there mushrooms on the line is now is the little hot still there the little plate La hope let's have a look right it's there hiding away in the trees uh so that's still there that won't be there much longer that that's going to go that eventually but if you remember we went in there I actually lit it with some lights when I first got me uh colored lights and then of course this way goes over towards cheat Mill uh this hasn't changed uh and then this area I think over there was called Bary tip I think it's going to be called like St Catherine's oh is it St Catherine's it obviously relates to something whether that church down there used to be down there was called St Catherine but the whole development it's going to be like a whole development along the irk Valley the irk Corridor but it's strange think is he sat here for like 40 years unchanged and overgrown and just finally it's changing and it will be uh full of apartments for well not for local people coffee shops and pocket Parks coffee shops pocket Parks I mean he's probably better yeah they build a nice park way to walk your sausage dog yeah somewhere to what your designer sausage dog is it yeah or your what is it jackapoo jackapoo like he's got but uh yeah um I suppose it can't stay it was it was a wasteland and if you remember that video I did called mushrooms on the line uh that was literally just a complete Wasteland there so I've heard it called a few things St Catherine's the irk Corridor but this map here shows the the church that it's named after if it will be call St Catherine's you can see it there just off col Earth road that church is now gone Without a Trace there it is in a picture 1969 uh but that was just off colos road and that I think is lending its name to this new development so up next we're off to the um origins of a famous photo we're off to jalter Gibralter right so this is where I wanted to be this is danick Street uh that's part of the uh Ring Road there see Aston house there um dog chance to get run over see Aston house there right can you get it James there that years ago when I did a milk round um with my dad I used to be a women's refuge and we used to come down here about hour 5 in the morning and delivered milk there when I was about 16 years old only we owned it for 2 weeks and my dad always insisted on going in taking the milk in and everything anyway start to throw that in so there's a picture that quite often does the rounds on the uh Manchester history Facebook groups it's an amazing picture and I'm going to show it you now there it is absolutely fantastic I'm going to go into some detail about it if you go into Manchester libraries this is what it says about this picture it says this jalter off long millgate a cluster of houses which stood on the banks of the irk near Scotland bridge in a court of the lower end of long millgate now renamed Corporation Street the date 1668 was to be seen on a beam in one of these buildings now I can't see that anywhere uh the buildings were taken down in 1889 the photograph is dated 1877 well quite often people can't place where it was it's the the the little street that it's on for one of a better description is called Gibralter that's danzik street that goes there follow me James that's Aspen Lane and Red Bank we need to go down this little side street here right so this little Cobble Street here is called Millow street it's got its routs in M Street but I'll show you on the old Maps Milow Street and you see the wall down there I'll get you some closeups that is where the picture was taken so I've actually not been down here before but it's h it was here now Gibralter in the picture that row of houses actually does but up to a railway Arch what you need to remember is the arches in this yard now wider than what used to be cu the railway got widened that's Parker's hotel by the way I'm showing you that just so it's behind there if you know where that is but those arches you see not those that you see in the picture cuz the whole thing got widened um so jalter would have probably gone underneath those arches that we're seeing now right so here we are this is where I started telling you about my dad uh going in um Ashton house here which was the women's refuge and I stood on this corner here talking to you I said this was dantic Street actually Corporation street danti street is further down but hey home my bad uh there's Milow Street which I told you about this is the little Cobble Street I went down so so what we're going to do now is we're going to turn time back to the old maps and you'll see Millow Street becomes mil Street and as we walk down there it is jalter a a row of dwellings here jalter and we're going down there and down here towards the river irk the irk is here this is the irk there's the we on the irk you'll see the railways just completely um railroaded through if you like brta went down here towards the banks of the earth and then you went to this town Mill and corn Mill which is what the we was for now the wear is still there the wear is still there but uh obviously the the Mills have long since gone but that's where the photo was taken probably standing here somewhere looking at Gibralter [Music] now notice this behind gibralta core and I want to bring your attention to these little dwellings gibralta Court Brooks Court Black Lion Court there's one over here Crown Court mon Monday place isn't it Engles in his book the condition of the working classes wrote about some of these dwellings these backtack dwellings here that we look at now and he described them and it's not a pretty picture he Paints in particular he's talking about this part and these dwellings on the banks of the river irk okay I want to read you a clip and it's from Engles the condition of the working classes what you're looking at now is much cleaner than what he describes because what you're looking at now is much later in these pictures what he describes as a horror show and he he is describing this area of J gii this area of giala and where we've just been looking at um and it's it's just listen to this bear with me because I really really want to read you this on the crest of the hill in Long Mill gate which is where we are among them are Mills on the river which was those two Mills I showed you on in the map um construction is crowded and disorderly here in this part of long millgate right and left a multitude of covered passages lead from the Main Street into numerous Cor s and he who turns into thether gets into a filth and disgusting Grime the equal of which is not to be found especially in the courts which lead down to the irk and which contain unqualifiedly the most horrible dwellings which I have yet beheld in one of these courts there stands directly at the entrance at the end of the covered passage a privy without a door so dirty that the inhabitants can pass into and out of the Court only by passing through foul pools of stagnant urine and excrement this will have been jalter and the little passage ways around there going to read you another little section here now and believe me when I'm showing you these pictures these pictures are taken from the 1900s a little bit later and they're nothing like as bad as what he's describing but here's another little piece I'm going to read to you okay so just a short piece about Allan's court right this is I finally these things fascinating which is just across from where the juicy Bridge Pub was and across from where um Manchester Victoria Station is so it's in that area if you know Manchester uh the first Court below juicy Bridge known as Allen's court so this is a lower level down by the river so this will probably disappear Without a Trace now there's some massive um tower blocks there now the first Court below juicy Bridge known as Allen's Court was in such a state at the time of the colera that the sanitary police ordered it evacuated swept and disinfected with chloride of lime um Dr K gives a terrible description of the state of this court at the time it's been partially torn away and rebuilt so it just sounds like a nightmare and this is very real for me because I can place where that is um and I bet down below street level somewhere there's the remains of that Allen's court but obviously long since forgotten so there you go so rter just there uh some people know where that fot was taken some people don't so I hope I've just put that into context for you now while we're doing PBS we're going to do a memorial of a nice little PB next stop then the juicy Bridge so in memory of a pub indeed so where you see a big gray and glass tower now there used to be a pub there and as you all know man Union will know it was the juicy Bridge Pub uh long gone long gone but I have got some footage because before it went and before it all got CED off I came down and I did some uh some footage of the building uh it's like it's never disappeared that was a very popular pub uh they used to put music on uh my mate Danny lived there for a short time um and I went in a couple of times around the side the buildings were to the right there they were very old because look at this it must have been kind of a warehouse uh because they had this loading uh sort of shaft if you want of a better word there would have been a py system up there probably um and then of course A friend of mine got some pictures of it when it was been when it had been demolished and it was raised to the ground and there's Parker's hotel we know that behind there is uh Gibralter and there's part of that winch mechanism and know thanks to Stuart as well who had the presence of mine to come down here when they were pulling down the juicy bridge and filmed some of that demolition footage I've got anyway right so we're now going to another PB where are we going to James the crown and Kettle the crown and Kettle is it all right in there I think it's gone better it's more student here now a bit like bit like here like going a bit cool so it's not I won't get roughed up in there might do anyway where is it Roy it's over in an coats an coats an coats you say or do you mean new is lingon all right yeah new is lingon I'll be talking about more about that in a minute anyway let's go to the crown and Kettle apparently it's got a beautiful nice ceiling in there what I have a look at and um stay tuned to the end of the video because you'll hear the story of how I made a complete fo of myself and how I kind of got to know Roy through doing that some of you may know at the end what I'm talking about but we're revisiting things [Music] right if only had have known this when we were in there the bit where we sat the ceiling is as you can see has been beautiful but only part of it's been restored and I didn't get to see that bit also there's supposed to be some wood paneling from a famous Airship I think the r100 or the r101 if only had to known that crown and CLE cheers what I long as it takes for the board to go around to make your decision what are you going to do gamble gble right so here's the deal right we've come into the crown and kettle today because it's not far from ancoats we're just on this is the crown and kettle's on the corner of Olden Road and great anat Street just down the road is ancoats now being a bit of an old booger now I remember ancoats when it was um when it was the C room estate a big sort of council estate and it was a should we just say late early ' 90s it was a bit of an intimidating Place particularly if you were driving a white van delivering Telles and videos and things like that you didn't necessarily want to come down here with your man full of Telles and videos you got you could get robbed if you live there I'm sure it was a great place and people have great memories of it here's the Dilemma down Grant ancot Street now in what I know as anot around the canals and everything the rosdale canal and the Ashton Canal it's got this new name it's called new Islington now I could be wrong here I was a little bit cynical about this name right I'm thinking where the hell has that come from because you know I don't understand so I looked at the old Maps I'm trying to find a key I'm trying to look at an area that may have been called new Islington or Islington you know or is it just literally sausage dog people that have come up with his new name to give it like a nice London sounding name name you know what I mean in which case in Manchester we're not having that so I was looking to the looking into the origins of the name new Islington I'm going to have to eat my hat and I'm going to have to eat Humble Pie because I may have found out why it's called new Islington let's just walk down great an coat street now or through ancoats and we'll uh try and find I'll show you the origins of what I think it is you've got a bit of History here haven't you so you keep telling us that [Music] can right this is nice isn't it Canal Cottage and if you just go over here James look at that nice bit of a chimney there as well you're in the heart of hand coats here new e Ling now I realized I'm being a bit clever and being a bit cocky and silly by taking the Mickey out this name new is link so must have its roots somewhere it must be called new Islington for a reason I don't think they just invent it come this way and I'll show you the origins run James [Music] run might be better over here James right so here we are Aston Canal this way James show them Aon Canal there right come back to me right okay we got a Spur here off the Aston canal and that spur there is called the Islington spur that is the origin of the name this area now they call New Islington goes up there comes to a dead end I'll show you where it goes and I'll show you how it used to be on the map so it runs in between some apartments feeling rather sorry for itself so this is it this wall here marks the end of the spur as is now just over there is a little Canal spur and I'm going to run across the road you can tell that's Canal C you there that was the Islington spur just going to run across the road now and show you where it went when I can dodge the cars I know where we go turn around with me James turn around with me he went over here just to where um the retail part was toys of R Us and all the rest of it if you remember that come over here James went there and then took a a right there that way and went over to what we now know is new Islington but it was the Islington spur so now I'll go to the maps and I'll show you what I mean okay so there you go there is my canals of Manchester map and you'll see there's a a fork there just disappearing to the left and the top line is the rosdale canal and the bottom bold red line is the Ashton canal and you you'll see it shows all the little Spurs and wars and things but you'll see where it says an coat locks and then Canal yard you'll see the Islington Branch there so I'm not saying that you know the canal has given the name of new Islington or that branch has given the name to new Islington but clearly that was the Islington Branch so it tells me that that area was known as Islington way way way way back so that kind of makes sense now and now I understand why it's called new is lingon and why this this name has come back somewhere just at the very bottom right there you'll see Soho um and so it looks like the area was kind of maybe named after London places or but bottom right there that says Soho uh Branch doesn't it I think or is it bch Branch so there you go and look how busy it is with canals and little Spurs and how the canals just got into everything it was [Music] amazing right right third Pub traditional Pub the peveril of the peak if you're on Instagram or you could come and take a picture of this cuz it's never been done before um so we're going to go in there so so far the most expensive Pub was you got stung at the uh crown of kettle he got he got stung at the crown and Kettle but we're going to go in air now see what it's like now I'm going to try and tell you why we're here and the significance of where we are uh it's to do with the river tib the river Tib and me getting it wrong now you may know about this but it's the story of how I met him and the whole river tib Saga um don't worry we're not going in the river tib that's another video um but anyway let's go in here and see what it's like okay beautiful looking Pub but only very small inside um tiling is absolutely stunning on the outside difficult to film in a because it was very packed and you don't want to start pulling a camera out and filming people so I'll get what I can for you but it is a lovely place and any Pub that has a fireplace like this is a definite winner PE of the peak was round in I said about4 in M he got ripped off PA 20 20 20 qu he paid the crown and Kettle and this has cost me 15 quid so traditional pubs but yeah yeah yeah bring plenty of money what you reading Roy not just any book about that book right so the kind of like the reason I brought you down here it's just really to revisit something um tib lock where scene of the crime where it all happened um River tib obviously is going underneath where we are now and and the priv of the peak always takes me back to when I did that video where I was going doing the Medlock I think it was Medlock N9 and I thought I'd found the outflow of the river tib turns out that it was wrong and I did a video uh correcting it now you may have seen that video you may not have done James was in it and at the end of it he cussed a ped me in the face or cheesecaked me in the face but when I did all that I'll show you a clip of it I'm trying to get to the river TI but in front of it it's really deep really deep s Li in the close let just see if I can uh not too bad right so there you go that's me that's me getting it wrong and I got a message of someone saying that's right M that's not it I'm afraid sorry mate sorry to tell you that's not it and I thought who's this clever telling me I've got it wrong you know I'd done a little bit of research I thought I'd found the outflow of The Tib turns out it was you in guys and I didn't I didn't know him at the time you saw that and I was making a big thing about finding the river TI outflow it actually had a flow on it that's the thing and then you knew that was wrong is that right it was wrong and I was looking at thinking I need to get a touch about this and he's sorting out clearing up and in fact you actually got part of it right there is an overflow under here um just in front of the pever of the peak that runs down to the Medlock but it wasn't The Tib and that all behold the ti you have to put the clip Up behold the tip I saw it and I thought God no it needs correcting this and that's where you went back yes so I thought that big tall oval outflow was the tip like I say even had the flow on it but it weren't the case was it cuz you knew so I get the message off him telling me that that's not it and I thought it was some kind of like I thought he was some kind of like I don't know clever clogs that didn't know his stuff was trying to recever but didn't know his stuff it turns out he did know his stuff and then he redirected me and James to the right place uh that's I could probably show you a picture of it it's not not something to be celebrated is it James I knew where it was to yeah um so anyway yeah that's there re that brought you down a to revisit uh the river Tib and to um direct you towards that video it should actually have a Medlock number to it it should be called Medlock 9B or something like that because it's me correcting the outflow the river tip how about how embarrassing was it for me well you know you get over it don't you and and to be honest right when you actually went and looked at it it is a bit of an anticlimax I'm not going to lie right I've been in that section of the Medlock quite a few times over the years and I walked past that I knew what it was but it's a bit of nothing is it yeah yeah that that tib outflow Doesn't Even Flow and it's a complete utter anticlimax a bricks up Arch it's rubbish it with with a plastic a plastic pipe poking through so it's absolutely anyway that's why I came down there that's we thought we just revisit that and uh I think we're looking at doing another tip video aren't we I think we should because um we' probably got I did one years ago but I could probably do a more complete one now right so this is a First Street in Manchester uh now all highly developed and full of uh sausage dog people bless him bless him um anyway so we probably stood here underneath here uh the Medlock not saying it's exactly where we stood but we're pretty much stood Above This that is the Medlock 1903 it's about to be cved over um and what where the cul culverted it over First Street where we stood went over the top of it the metalock where we stood doing the outro here now is underneath us so we're pretty much stood in this area incredible picture Gon Gas Works [Music] 1903 and then towards the side here probably is where The Tib finally meets the uh the Medlock and it's roughly here where we stood I actually think it's slightly more back there but we just thought we'd end the video here where uh Above The Tib when it makes the Medlock anyway there you go so I hope you enjoyed that little video just a little uh spur of the moment off the cuff thing we thought we'd revisit some old places did you enjoy it yeah those pubs are good but they're expensive they are they're rather expensive they're not the cheapest pubs in the world London comes to Manchester comes to mind anyway we found out the origins of new Islington that's a relief pH um so thanks for watching I hope you enjoyed it um we'll be back soon with another mysterious video take care thanks for watching and we'll see you in the next video for now bye for now

Channel: Martin Zero

Views: 50,271

Keywords: Manchester History, Canals in Manchester, Lost Manchester, Martin Zero, LS Lowry, Engels Condition of the working classes, Old maps Manchester

Id: 9Y1UqKMubss

Length: 32min 35sec (1955 seconds)

Published: Sun Apr 21 2024