Long Range Shooting Myths

long-range shooting is the firearms industry equivalent to the fishing story every time you talk to somebody the distances got farther and the shot got more difficult I got a little taste of that myself last year on a mile shot episode we're going to revisit that topic out here at gun sight with my good buddy Walt wilkinson he's one of the gunsight staff instructors retired sergeant major from US Army Special Forces thirty years in service and he is a world champion 50 caliber shooter we're going to visit some of the excellent long-range facilities that gunsight has to offer I'll be shooting a very special 338 Lapua and what will be shooting his world champion 50 caliber BMG bolt gun this is a real special episode and if you're in the longest that's shooting make sure you stay tuned because we're going to debunk a lot of myths along the way that did it okay the gun I'm using this year out here at gun sight in the season two long-distance episode is an accuracy international ax 338 Lapua provided to me by my good friend Randy Pennington at mile high shooting accessories in Denver Colorado Randy reached out after he sold we did last year on the show offered up a gun for season two and turns out he's a Vietnam vet with a service-related disability a really good guy and what I consider the best one stop shop for high-end sniper rifles and accessories in the country this entire gun was decked out by mile high shooting accessories and you take you through it they're the exclusive distributor for suppressed armament systems which was the suppressor that came with the gun has a 20-inch barrel ax is the base rifle 338 Lapua the Schmidt & Bender scope which he supplies I actually got this particular one in flat dark earth from Mark Cromwell at Schmidt & Bender USA this is one of the exact scopes that they're sending to SOCOM for the PSR program the five to twenty five PM two is the gold standard for a long-distance shooting now and this is the scope that was actually chosen by the shooters in so calm before the rifle was chosen that's how good of a piece of kit this is the spur mount was supplied by mile high they're one of the spur distributors in the United States excellent mount has a leveling bubble in the bottom clamps on very solidly unlike the gun we had last year good whoa the mounts loose but the scope is been loose again best amount I'm aware of on the market today bar none also Atlas bipod has a throw lever mount and last but not least folding stock and it has blue force gear sling on now it's a tactical sling as you know you can run the adjustment in and out as you need be or you can actually cuff up pinch down on your arm and then use this as a support like a standard service rifle sling that's one of the many factors why that sling was adopted by the Marine Corps as the recommended sling for the m16 m4 family ok TAC TV fans I'm out here at long-range Ridge with my good buddy Walt Wilkinson sergeant major retire we've known each other for a long time Walt's a staff instructor here at gun sight and one of the most dialed and gun guys that I know and a world champion 50 caliber thousand yard shooter he's obviously the guy that I want to tap into for long-range shooting now I brought out a 338 a I gun and you've got your star here corrected LHS 50 I guess we'll confirm zeros and then we'll get out here and start shooting some targets at distance Walt I know you've told me this before but remind me when did you get into long range shoot back in Ohio in high school all right you know the groundhog thing all over the place me and my friends got into the long range groundhog shooting right there we progress through the 25.6 thing up into our first precision guns once I got into service and was able to make a little bit of money with a Remington 40 xB in seven millimeter Remington Magnum I remember you're a boy just like me you bought that advanced shooting supplies in Columbus right that's correct me my buddy got consecutive serial number single-shot 40 XPS good deal now we've talked about a variety of things off-camera here when it comes to long-range shooting everything kind of changes of a thousand right that is correct once you get to that range the bullet is dropping like a rainbow so small problems in your calculations equal a lot right so the environmental factors of temperature and barometric pressure really affect the bullet and you've got to really either run them or have your dope book set up so that you know what the bullet is going to do at different temperatures and then of course the answer to the problem nowadays is the ballistic computer absolutely now we know you're world champion 50 Cal what else do you shoot with hi compete with the 308 because I think that's the best round really to train with I'm not using one of the super calibers there the long-range matches I use the 338 Lapua all right going out to 2250 there and then of course I shoot the practical 600 yard matches and the 1,000 yard match with my star HS 50 I'm one of the refreshing things about some of the stuff we talked about is you don't buy into the perpetuated myth of the sub MOA accuracy in terms of ammo shooter or gun combination that's one of the hard things that a lot of the students that come out here you know they want every single group to be you know a half inch or so and that's not going to be the case all right some people will claim that you know when they shoot that one-time quarter-inch group that now their rifle is a quarter MOA rifle from then on know the stars just aligned and you've got the bullets to to go into the same area in a tight group a 1 MOA gun that's what you're looking for and we always have to explain that the students at water Ranger at you know at 300 dude this is a perfect group alright and at 400 this is a perfect group you're doing fine all right don't get all frustrated in most cases with the environment environmental changes and the ammunition and the rifle put together a 1 MOA group is really what what you should expect so if you're shooting 1,500 to 15-inch 15s Group is an excellent group at that range because the environment really starts to come into play there well I can tell you last season we had a blast with our mild shot by your standards it was you know was rather crude per se but this season I want to tap into a real subject matter expert and look at some of the science in debunk some of the myths behind shooting it long-range you'll be fired up you're 50 I'll fire up my 338 great I think we will we and we certainly had the facilities here to do that you got that right we're up here on long-range Ridge at gun sight my buddy Walt Wilkinson a spot for me and we're dialing in my a eye ax 338 with the Schmidt inventor 5 to 25 on top of it Walt help me get zeroed in at 100 then we confirmed it at 300 on the Woodfill range and now we're stretching it out to eight nine hundred a thousand different steel targets and he's calculating the come ups so when in theory we can be on the first shot or the second shot at most and by and large it's been right on the money okay I'm gonna give you your wind holes in Mills okay all right so figure out what they are it looks like increments of ten and then five but in the center crosshair it's only out to ten on each side north-south-east-west okay so I can swagg five two five seven that kind of thing yeah and you're ready let me know it's the small square one third one from the right I'm ready okay favor right you look like when did you is good just just underneath yep okay dial up point five so now we've come up point five six point two that's what we should be up right now at eight eighty two I know when you're ready shooting ready favor right clang yep can't ask more than that you know I think it hit just off the cross upper left-hand quadrant of it okay alright we're going to move to the thousand eighty two two targets left you want the crosshair on it correct alright I'm ready right edge off the edge you hit below the center just a little bit so it looks pretty good tell me when you're ready ready right edge clang tray says maybe just a little bit below Center okay moving thirteen thirteen that's it is that open field yeah to the left the two that are together tall and short I'm ready right edge Oh almost got him dude there's a jackrabbit behind the target I was drunk yeah I left come down point four we should please get in there all right Jemma when you're ready all right I'm ready right point five there we go yeah okay we know we can pound out to that now we're gonna stretch all right right now the three three-eighths doing great using Black Hills 250 Green Mile High shooting and accessories hooked me up with the gun worth 1,300 now we're trying to push farther and by all counts with a 20-inch barrel we're going to start running challenges so we'll see how it shakes let's see what that little 20-inch barrel is capable of all right it's lightening up pretty good for us we shouldn't have a problem Mirage is not an issue I'm ready right point three yes I love it when I could see the bullet on that shake it would be a 15 inch group dial at point four for me 19.8 19.8 okay getting less wind up at altitude most of it's on the ground so tell me when you're ready I am ready right edge just off the right edge so we'll make the adjustment we don't care what's going on tell me when you're ready I am ready favor left favor left oh yeah I saw that guess what yeah we may have found that point in the world where that thing is going to start dropping off we just hit one point too low and the last one we were hit dead-on okay let's try it again top left-hand corner of the target got it watch the reticle yeah you're right we have reached yet that point so at this point here we've now gone down below the the speed of sound alright and crossing back through the sound barrier the bullet ends up having issues and will start tumbling spinning and yawing and everything else so we have definitely reached that point we didn't reach it out at 13-13 but now at fourteen seventy we're there well my world-class spotter / ballast ition walt has figured it out this gun is basically good to go out to 13 13 on steel but now we just tried just shy 1500 and it's a no-go the group size down there is the size of prize bulks wagon it's getting big yeah and so what we're going to do now to back it back down to the zone where we know we can get good hits we're going to put the suppressor on it that mile high shooting an accessory supplied with the gun and we're going to see what kind of hits we get with the same dope same data we had unsuppressed sounds like a plan where are you ready I'm ready wind has shifted death yeah as I can tell left edge clang Wow I'm going to say that it hit an upper left quadrant yep right in there that that was that was impressive you know to go add that suppressor and then have no yeah meal I'm impressed weight of impact shift at that right 1300 yeah I'm very impressed yeah you're gonna try to go back out to 14-7 right okay here we go dial nineteen eight all right are you ready yeah I'm ready give me left edge won't hit hit center low so with that in mind Larry yep come up point three okay let's see what happens point three would give us twenty point one great one twenty point one and that's the suppressed one tell me when you're ready let it all right focus on the reticle I can't stress that enough left edge I'll be I'm going to say that hits center low at laid waste the suppressor is given it more velocity and we're getting there well the guy got Randy Pennington the guy who sent it to me from mile-high said that most people once they start shooting these suppressed they shouldn't suppress all the pomp I am genuinely impressed with that hit with the exact same dope at 13-13 with the suppressor on basically it hit a man at 1,300 meters with exactly the same dope suppressor on and suppressor off that's very impressive okay now we shot the gun 1470 with the suppressor and we got hits on a target that we previously did not get any hits unsuppressed now we're going to see where it falls off the edge of the cliff so to speak and push it another hundred yards or so to just shy us sixteen hundred yards okay 1583 all right I want you to dial twenty-one seven twenty-one seven it works out to about a mil and a half for that next one hundred yards got it we're getting out there now focus on the reticle tell me when you're ready I'm ready left 0.30 about where the cluster with that just out there okay tell me when you're ready I am ready favor left not unobserved yeah outer space that's not really good because I was point seven lower well then where we hit before Larry give me another one okay we'll make an adjustment off that tell me when you're ready ready let me have the upper left-hand corner of the target that's it not only is it hard to spot out of that range but yeah we just had a half mil shift between those two yeah so we're able to hold it together at 14 something but so that is definitely that is the threshold of everything the suppressor gave us that extra 100 hundred yards yeah and when we added 100 we like sent a thanks for watching the Vickers tactical youtube channel to subscribe click here and to watch some of my favorite videos click here have a good one la Vie out

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Keywords: Range, Shooting Sport (Sport), Long Range Shooting, Weapon (Interest), Small Arms (Industry), Larry Vickers, LAV, Vickers Tactical, TAC TV, Walt Wilkinson, Gunsite Training Center (Organization), Accuracy International (Business Operation), 338 lapua, AX338, Randy Pennington, Mile High Shooting Accessories, 50 Caliber BMG Bolt Gun, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (Armed Force), United States Navy SEALs (Organization), Airsoft (Sport), Paintball (Sport)

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Length: 17min 12sec (1032 seconds)

Published: Fri Aug 21 2015