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judge to be the national interest mr. speaker so mr. mr. speaker with permission I beg to move the motion of standing in my name under the fixed-term Parliament act last Wednesday the ride-on member is eaten North became the first leader of the Opposition in the history of our country to show his confidence in Her Majesty's Government by declining the opportunity to have an election with a view to removing the government there when he spoke last week it seemed that he might recover his nerve tonight might wait to see how he responds referring to his surrender bill he says and I quote last week led this bill pass and gained Royal Assent and then he said we will back an election well the surrender bill the surrender has now passed it has gained Royal Assent he has done his level best to wreck this chance this country's chances of a successful negotiation by his own logic he must now back an election [Applause] I hope this step would be unnecessary yet I have accepted the reality that an election is the only way to break the deadlock in the house and to serve the national interest by giving whoever is Prime Minister the strongest possible mandate to negotiate for our country at next month's European Council labor to have accepted this reality in their own leaflets this weekend this weekend they say we need a general election now the general election and yet throughout the weekend the right honourable gentleman's cronies together with those other opposition parties have been trying to disguise their preposterous cowardice by coming up with ever more outrageous excuses for delaying or not an election until the end of October or perhaps November when hell freezes over in the dither delay and procrastination that has become the hallmark of the Opposition while they conniving to delay brexit in defiance of the referendum costing the country an extra 250 million pounds a week for the privileged 200 million pounds a week the privilege of delay enough to upgrade more than five hospitals and train 4,000 new nurses the only possible explanation is that they fear that we will win it mr. speaker and secured a renewed mandate to take this country out of the EU a policy they now oppose and that is the sorry tail of your of this opposition this problem last three years they have schemed to overturn the verdict of the British people delivered in a referendum which in a crowning irony almost all of them voted to hold in fact mr. speaker they didn't just vote to hold it some of them even I'll give way with pleasure unrelated to give me an intervention but he's here reading off the fact that's mine the amount of money that is being spent very into Europe that could pay for nurses and nine years of austerity has led to our NHS [Applause] well I if that's what she thinks why don't you ever work with that right on Wilfred in front of her and tell him to reverse his absurd policy and spending an extra billion pounds a month to keep us in the EU and worse spending a billion pounds on 20,000 more police officers on the streets [Applause] but but some of them the Liberal Democrats also called for a referendum on our membership of the EU and once they got it by the way they lost that referendum of course they did nothing but try to overturn the result arrogating to themselves the authority to decide which democratic elections they respect in which they reject now mrs. P gather where are they they're liberal donors are there they want a second referendum but they're already planning to campaign against the result when asked when asked whether she would implement brexit if the people voted for it - second time the party's new leader replied no every time the Liberal Democrats lose a referendum they just call for a new one I must say turns out that the Honourable member for done Vanja East is the is that as it were the new leader of the referendum party the Jimmy goldsmith there are models of coherence by comparison mr. speaker with a leader of the Opposition his strategy mysterious as it is is that by some process he becomes Prime Minister that he went without an election against elections he then goes to Brussels and the ghost shakes a new deal presumably keeping us in the customs union and in the single market he then comes back and passes that deal through the house then takes it to the country in a second referendum whereupon he campaigns against his own deal [Music] that's it that's the plan isn't it the Pepsi clarified and then and then captain urges the nation to reject his own handiwork mr. Speaker we know the real reason wide labor date one a general election we know what we know why they don't want the general election under his leadership most of them most of them don't want a general election because they fear that their party will lose but there is a small small terrified minority of Labour MPs who don't want an election because they actually think you might win [Applause] as in the Scottish Nationalist Party third the SNP last week the First Minister for Scotland correctly said and I quote it's starting to feel like labour doesn't want an election I told you then issued a clarion call to her own assembled armies in Westminster - and I quote force an election and what are they doing how do those brave stalwarts of Scottish a presume propose to force that election by heroically abstaining the common the common thread the common thread joining all these parties is that there is their extraordinary belief that the national interest requires them preemptively to protect the British people from the consequences of their own democratic decisions the truth is mr. speaker they only believe in democracy when it delivers the results that they want [Music] her Majesty's loyal opposition have a constitutional duty mr. speaker noise in the chamber the decibel level needs to reduce the order the Prime Minister shouldn't have to shout in order to make himself heard and the same will apply when the lead of the Opposition gets to his feet the Prime Minister I'm grateful thank you so much mr. speaker Majesties there's this big Majesty's opposition have a constitutional duty they are they have a constitutional duty to oppose the government and to seek to replace it for this task mr. speaker they are handsomely paid they are handsomely paid to the tune of almost 10 million pounds of taxpayers money that's what they're paid to do by the taxpayer the leader of the Opposition himself and point of order Anna Seabury [Applause] [Music] [Applause] mr. speaker unfortunately the microphone being placed so close to the Prime Minister means he can't hear that some of us over here are trying to intervene [Applause] and something that he and his back benches tendrils which is a debate because we all want to know whether here abide by the law yes I say as much with the benefit of the watching públicas for anybody else that is an example of what I call the norm superficially a point of order but in tiny bogus the Honourable lady made her own point in our own way with suitable alacrity and it's on the record the new foreign minister mrs. P who may I thank you all characteristically impartial judgments the leader of the Opposition the leader of the Opposition there he sits his party paid 10 million pounds by the taxpayer the leader of the Opposition himself is entitled over a 140,000 pounds of taxpayers money and yet today we have the extraordinary spectacle of the entire opposition collectively deciding to abrogate their most fundamental responsibility mr. speaker they have their job they know what they should be doing in this era of creative litigation are they not grounds for legal challenge to compel them to do it the leader of the Opposition the Honorable members can have their say in a minute I'm mr. speaker I'm concluding my remarks sometimes he says we should leave the EU sometimes he says we should have another referendum sometimes he says we should negotiate a new deal sometimes he says he would accept whatever Brussels offers over the past few days the Labour Party has said that he wants to delay brexit then negotiate a new deal then having another referendum then campaign against their own deal in that referenda paps their next policy will be to have a referendum on whether to have a referendum this has become the leader of the Opposition cannot lead he cannot make a decision he cannot work out whether he is for brexit or against it for a referendum or against it the only options he likes are giver and delay Oh order I'm older I'm immensely grateful to the Prime Minister for he's ready compliance with the procedures of the house a point of order from mr. Damon Lyndon which I have mr. Suarez a require any assistance from Europe the foggiest idea where to start what I'm seeking to establish is whether it is a point of Honor when I marry I will know till I become mr. David Lyndon people observing today's proceedings will see that they are not see it assures that this is the second time but that's how a solution given that the Prime Minister is displaying somewhat a contradiction by Singh Lee wants to ask this question of house again but not allow the people of Scotland an independent [Applause] coffee see the part of the playlist on well an ingenious effort but let me just say to the Honorable gentleman this motion wouldn't be on the paper unless it was orderly and I'm happy to conduct a seminar for the Honorable gentleman's benefit outside the chamber at a later date it is at this time given the context orderly he's made his own point but it's a different one and it doesn't meet the needs of the case the Prime Minister besides Thank You mr. speaker and I so I say again to everybody on the opposition vegies if you really want to delay brexit beyond October the 31st which is what you seem to want to do then vote for an election and if you refuse to do that tonight then I will go to Brussels I will go to Brussels our government will go to Brussels on October the 17th and negotiate our departure on the 31st of October hopefully where the deal mr. speaker but without one if necessary I will not ask for another delay but I will not ask to delay or no apologize going to interrupt the prime minister look I will take these points of order but I hope that they're genuine and order I hope they're genuine and the Prime Minister will then proceed with this speech point of order patricia gibson given that we are supposed to be debating whether or not to have an hour general election when the play minister in that context is willing to share with the house whether or not he's willing to obey the law of the land that's a political observation not a matter for procedural adjudication by the chair dr. Sarah Wollaston point of order I have a point of order on behalf of the liaison committee mr. speaker the prime minister gave an undertaking that he would appear before the liaison committee this Wednesday at 3:30 the liaison committee of met today and we order order when I would say to the Honourable lady I recognize the sincerity and the strength of conviction if she wishes to contribute to the debate in an orderly way on her fee in a speech because she catches my eye she can she shouldn't use the device of a bogus point Mr Speaker I repeat my point or any warning around Davis the Prime Minister's just informed the house but on the 31st of October he will go to Brussels and ensure that we lit and we leave with or without a deal in contravention of the motion that we've just passed that we will obey the law in compliance with the law that's just been immensely grateful if the honourable gentleman didn't feel it necessary to keep pointing at me I know he feels strongly but it isn't a point of order and I order I would say in terms of the seaman illness of these proceedings come on let's have fair play the Prime Minister is entitled to make a speech and be heard as will the leader of the Opposition be the Prime Minister Thank You mr. speaker and thank you for allowing me to repeat my salient point that I will not ask for another delay the delectable the delectable district order order order this is profoundly disorderly members mustn't be shouted down in the chamber they mustn't be shouted down in the chamber there are standards to be upheld and they must be the Prime Minister Mr Speaker it is plane from the turbulent a reaction of the benches opposite that they simply want another delay and I will I will not have that the public have had enough of the delectable disputations of this house and I must warn members that their behavior in thwarting the will of the people is undermining respect for this house in the country mr. speaker if honourable members want another delay the only proper way to do it is to ask permission from our masters the people from our masters the voters and I commend this motion to the heart Oh the question is shall be an early parliamentary general election I call the leader of the Opposition mr. Jeremy Corbyn Thank You mr. speaker the only point of any importance that the Prime Minister's just included in his speech is his clear indication that he does not intend to follow the law that has just been passed that requires him to ask for an extension and certain circumstances he also mr. speaker gave no answer to the two decisions this house has already made today concerning the publication of yellowhammer documents and his own behavior as Prime Minister in respect of laws agreed by this house because the Prime Minister's failing me seemed to grasp that opposition benches have actually been very clear [Applause] the house mr. speaker has expressed its will until the act has been complied with and no deal has been taken off the table no deal taken off the table we will not vote to support the dissolution of this house and a general election now I want an election mr. speaker as the Prime Minister pointed out and the Conservative Party has very generously broadcast footage of me and my friends saying that we want an election [Applause] I don't retreat from that at all we're eager for an election but as clean as we are we are not prepared to risk inflicting the disaster of No Deal our communities our jobs our services or indeed our rights mr. speaker No Deal would not be a clean break it would not mean just getting on with it it would start a whole new period of confusion and delay but this time this time mr. speaker set against a backdrop of rising unemployment further deindustrialization and of deepening poverty all across this country Oh death or order order I said I'm able to go the Prime Minister should not be shouted down let me say to people who are shouting their heads off it will be readily obvious to people observing our proceedings that's exactly what they're trying to do in stru including some extraordinarily stupid and noisy yelling from people secreting themselves behind the chair and thinking they're being clever it's very low-grade it's very down market is very substantive he's very boring it's very predictable and if the whips operating any sort of discipline they would tell those people to try to get a life the leader of the Opposition mr. speaker the point I was making was that it will be in a backdrop of unemployment increasing Dean Russell ization and deepening poverty within our society not very surprising that the government was so keen to hide the yellowhammer documents their own documents which would demonstrate this to be the case we have no faith that the government is seeking a deal in good faith indeed the former Work and Pensions secretary secretary said in a resignation letter said in her resignation letter I no longer believe leaving with a deal is the government's main objective EU leaders have received no proposals government ministers have offered no explanation of the deal they are seeking even if there is such a deal they're seeking let alone any worked out proposals presented to Parliament for scrutiny no wonder they're so keen to prorogue so early to avoid any scrutiny they're doing the only conclusion mr. speaker the only conclusion that can be reached and it is backed up by all the leaked reports in the press is that the government's pretensions to negotiate are nothing but a sham the Prime Minister knows he knows full well there is no mandate for no deal no majority support for in the country and no majority support for it in this house but but but he refuses to rule it out and refuses refuses to set out any proposals to avoid it mr. speaker this is a very serious issue the Prime Minister is running away from scrutiny running away running away from scrutiny with his blather and he's shouting many people mr. speaker [Applause] many people mr. speaker including the member for Hastings & rye are in conclusion that No Deal is his only answer but he has no mandate for that and the last general election gave no mandate for No Deal the 2016 referendum gives no mandate for that and mr. speaker the co convener of the vote leave campaign said in March this year and I quote we didn't vote to leave without a deal he is now the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster No Deal is opposed No Deal is opposed by every business group every industry group every trade union and has been opposed in votes in this house I want to turf out this reckless government government this government that is driving up poverty deepening inequality scapegoating migrants whipping up divisions and failing this country a general election isn't something with a prime minister to play about with the propaganda points or even his very poor quality posts on social media so perhaps perhaps the Prime Minister can which could be the last time in this session of Parliament answer some questions firstly firstly order order mr. Phil you're very loud on rancorous calm down young man you're getting very overexcited very very overexcited oh very very very very overexcited very overexcited you can do a lot better than that you must try to do so please Jeremy Corbyn migrates Jen's mr. speaker firstly to the Prime Minister where are his proposals for renegotiation where are they when will they publish what is their content [Applause] [Music] secondly since if he seeks a no deal why doesn't he argue for it and seek the mandate for it that it so far does not possess there is not a mandate for no deal no I'm not giving way thirdly if he is making if as he claims he is making progress [Applause] mr. speaker the right honourable gentleman rarely wishes to avoid an ideal brexit can explain why he is unwilling to call election go to Brussels Oh Oh dare [Applause] Oh mr. Wu's gambia self his order is the prime minister sir order is the Prime Minister satisfied that he's made his intervention or the order order or does he wish to complete it I'd like to know I'd like to know mr. speaker if the Honorable gentleman wishes to avoid a No Deal brexit why does he not call an election get a mandate go to Brussels and negotiate a deal himself what's his objection to that because mr. speaker we're the responsible party in this room we don't want to press that but No Deal and there is also mr. speaker the issue of course of trust in a prime minister who is unable to answer any questions and he's desperate to suspend Parliament to avoid any scrutiny thirdly mr. speaker if he's making progress as he told the house last week why did the t-shirt tell the Prime Minister only this morning he was yet to receive realistic legally binding and workable plans that was only this morning the Prime Minister must be able to remember it perhaps he could explain why the t-shirt felt the need to say that I realized the desperation of the Tory party when all they can do is rearrange the mics on the Titanic and finally and finally since since mr. speaker he didn't bother to turn up mr. speaker if I could just inform with great respect the members opposite I've no intention to bring way to any of them okay [Applause] and finally mr. speaker since the Prime Minister didn't bother to turn up for the previous debate will he respect the law and implement the EU withdrawal number-6 Act if his negotiated an agreement backed by this house on the 19th of October this Parliament is not a platform for the Prime Minister's games no it's a chamber in which the elected representatives of people hold the executive to account that is what parliamentary democracy is about the Prime Minister has been asked four simple questions simple questions mr. speaker I'm not giving away Oh death this is Jeremy Corbyn Thank You mr. speaker the Prime Minister is talking up No Deal to one wing of his party and said and talking up and talking up getting a deal to another wing of his party the sad reality is he's not preparing adequately for the first and not negotiating at all for the other on Sunday mr. speaker the 15th it's UN International Day of democracy when the UN celebrates government's government's being held accountable to their national parliaments in a democracy this government is only interested in shutting down Parliament to avoid avoid any scrutiny his of his obfuscation and evasions are being rumbled both at home and abroad and that is why he doesn't answer questions and he's so keen so keen to avoid any scrutiny tonight he will be attempting to prorogue Parliament for one of the longest prorogation 's have ever been shutting down parliament shutting down democracy avoiding question taking this country over a cliff of a No Deal exit with all the damage that will do to many of the poorest and most vulnerable communities in our society and all the damage it will do to trade and jobs all because he wants to take this country into the direction of a trade deal solely with the USA rather than anybody else Mr Speaker we are not walking into traps laid by this Prime Minister [Applause] this gentleman a Froy thank you very much indeed mr. speaker I'm going to be extremely brief and that is simply and if I could ask the right honourable members will be concluding on behalf of the government just one or two questions if we do a vote for a general election tonight it will mean that we enter into new types of rules there will be perder there'll be other things that will be rules upon the civil service what I would like to know because I've heard from his faith from his very lips the Prime Minister's strong contention that he is in favor of a deal is negotiating hard for a deal and I absolutely believe him in this [Applause] [Music] what I would like what I would like what I would like to hear from the government is how this can be pursued and prosecuted in the course of a general election in which I believe also that the opposition would have to some extent be and these kept in force that is all I want to ask because I think it's a very important point at a time during a general election when everybody is so consumed with campaigning quite rightly how are we going to be able to prosecute these negotiations and also deal with the matters of keeping everybody including the leave of your position informant Thank You mr. Ian Blackford [Applause] Thank You mr. speaker can I say it's a pleasure to follow the vulnerable gentleman from stop words let me let me commend him for the way that he has behaved with dignity and his intervention tonight can I say to the house this is an absolutely crucial time for all of us it's an absolutely crucial timing to all our constituents of course that our strong opinions and there should be of course we should have robust debate frankly Mr Speaker I am utterly appalled and ashamed what we've witnessed in this house the Seaview and you know I can see members laughing but all of us have a sense of responsibility and remember this we had the death of an MP a few short years ago to many members in this house are receiving death threats to many members of this house are getting verbal abuse outside this place the leadership that we show how do we all conduct ourselves in this place it's very important and I appeal to everybody the shortest trained to act in a dignified manner and to show respect to each other we all that to all our constituents Devon way I do believe he says what he says with tool sincerity and that spirit was the ischium that a member from his benches when the Prime Minister was on his feet shouted out the words you're a liar and another member another member from the Labour benches charted at the Prime Minister you're a thug does he agree that those things bring the heights in the district mr. speaker I'm appealing to all members to behave in a way respectful to colleagues and respectful to our constituents you know I have to say our lesson very carefully to what the prime minister said I will not ask for another extension I will not ask for another extension mr. speaker just dwell on these words because the Prime Minister is saying with those words that he's going to ignore an act of Parliament that he is going to ignore the law and I would simply say to the Prime Minister be careful be careful you occupy the highest office in the land and what you're demonstrating to the people of the United Kingdom is that the law doesn't matter that's a very serious situation Kabir and I asked the Prime Minister to think again to thank very carefully or be prepared to pay the consequences of ignoring the laws of this land because doesn't agree with me that if this was the head of government in a country say Georgia or Moldova or in Latin America Tory MPs would be lining up to pontificate about that country being a failed state but because a Union flag has been wrapped around it with the usual Tory jingoism they think it's all a okay well look I am deeply concerned about what is happening and I'm deeply concerned about the prolonging of Parliament and the fact that the government has pushed through this prolonging of Parliament on the votes of three members of the Privy Council against the expressed wishes of the majority members of this house that does concern me as Democrats it should concern us all mr. speaker I said last week and I'll say it again the SNP wants a general election [Applause] agnus government though and we're going to take it we want the opportunity for the people of Scotland to have their voices heard to make their choice over their futures Mr Speaker we want the opportunity to stop this Prime Minister from ripping us out of the European Union again so what can I say - okay the right honourable gentleman shouldn't have to do so you are a most statuesque figure mr. Kosinski and therefore you're very readily visible and sometimes audible I very gently say to you because you're generally a very good-natured but that it is quite inappropriate when standing at the bar of the House also to be bellowing stand and look impressive rather than yell man that would be my advice Ian Blackbird Thank You mr. Speaker we want the opportunity to stop this prime minister from ripping us out of the European Union again so will members congeal all they want but this Prime Minister has lost Scotland the Prime Minister has lost the support of the old Scottish Tory leader right think tonight in the Evening Standard Ruth Davidson has landed a blow on the Prime Minister not bad for the Prime Minister and for this shambolic feeling Saudi government mr. speaker the matter is simple we want an election but we don't want it on the prime ministers term is e Prime Minister obsessed with running down the clock a prime minister who cannot be trusted a prime minister who is seeking to shock Parliament tonight so he can drive us off the cliff edge well Mr Speaker we are not falling for it the Prime Minister thinks he can treat Parliament however he wants he thinks he can ignore the people of Scotland to treat our Scottish Parliament our governments and our citizens as second-class citizens mr. speaker Scotland will not be ignored voted overwhelmingly to remain in the European Scotland voted overwhelmingly for the SNP the Tory government here in Westminster and Scotland will have the chance to vote to say that this Prime Minister best government does not represent the people of Scotland and our wishes mr. speaker since the referendum we have been treated with contempt shouted down our voices silent interest sideways well mr. speaker let me put the Prime Minister on notice the election is coming I give away [Applause] I thank my the regular friend for forgiving we but the fact he feels T Taylor house and I've said it before and 2016 there was more people in Scotland voted to leave the European Union than voted for ASAP 2017 but let me tell you what happened in 2016 we had elections to the Scottish Parliament and the SNP won its third election on the Troy and we did that with the manifesto commitment that if there was a material change in circumstances than the Scottish people had a right to have a referendum so my message to you remember from here to the Prime Minister respect the will of the people of let's just become once the threat of an ordeal brexit is removed from the table the SNP will act and we urge others to act to bring down the Tories house this Prime Minister and let the people have their see once we're safe in the knowledge that we're not leaving the European Union in Halloween the days of this government will be over when we return in October we expect the opposition to work together to bring this government turn in we've had enough of this dictatorship enough of the deceit the fake use the Sham fighting the games and the stunts we've had enough so I say to members I say to people at home across these islands who are feeling lost forgotten anxious and worried about the future our time is coming we will keep fighting for you where we can we will work in the interests of the people across Scotland and the UK to protect our economy from the brexit catastrophe and we will create the circumstances find a way to strip this government of power and democratic borders gentlemen if you wish to speak in the debate you might find attract the eye of the speaker shank tonight shine tonight like this shutting down Scottish voices is not the way to go mr. speaker mr. speaker and the Democratic deficit and give the people back control an election is coming and the SNP will assure that post the suspension period when no deal is off the table that the people of Scotland will have the opportunity to choose their future to choose to be citizens who want to be part of Europe to choose to live in a country that is outward looking and welcoming to choose to live in an independent scholar and firmness three of broken brexit Britain mr. speaker the Prime Minister has warned his days in office our number tea [Applause] sir Allen Duncan [Music] mr. Veeck I had no intention a few moments ago of speaking in this debate but I would just like to say three things which I hope the house will take on board the first is to appreciate the constitutional catastrophic significance of the fixed term Parliament's Act I tried in a ten-minute rule bill to repeal it in 2015 and we all understand why it came into being it was to be the glue in the coalition government after the election of 2010 but it should have had a sunset clause and the effect of this act is now to trammel this government and our prime minister in a very very Kafka esque trap that he's finding it very difficult to govern but is unable to call a general election and I very much hope that the first act probably of the next Parliament will be to abolish the fixed [Applause] the second the second point is this it's just a issue a word of caution about the danger that comes with mixing up the difficult and complicated unresolved issue of brexit with a potential general election a general election is by its very nature general we are all up for grabs and all policies in a manifesto are also there for debate but this has been brexit the most divisive poisonous difficult issue of our life and if we go into a general election with an unresolved brexit there is no way that a clear answer on brexit can be said to emerge from that process and quite possibly because of the nature of brexit and the way that it is pushing our entire post Victorian party system into near collapse and we may have four-way competitions in almost every constituency we may find that it doesn't actually resolve the problem of government either so I would ask this house to appreciate that we are in a dreadful bind and that the binary politics of largely labour and conservative may be behind us if not forever at least for a very very long time and the third point is this I've told my right honourable friend the Prime Minister that despite some of our past differences although we work together very closely in the Foreign Office I will I will stick by the gun but I very much regret and it's very painful the 21 of the most decent members of parliament who I very much regard as kindred spirits have lost the wit and I just softly that has to sort of imagine the scene a slightly grotty Victorian building that passes as the headquarters of the local Conservative Association portraits on the wall of Disraeli Churchill Thatcher then perhaps a couple of blank spaces and the Chairman is there and the phone rings and someone says look I'm a bloke from number 10 you've never heard of me but I'm afraid your MP has been sacked you must strike him off all the records or he'll you cannot talk to them now and we're going to re-elect someone straightaway the only response a self-respecting chair can give is can I thank you very much for your call young man now bugger off so we must appreciate that still the constituency is an essential unit of our democracy it is the building block which makes this house what it is and there may of course be party rules but we should be very careful about letting party rules be superseded by the control at the centre so I very much hope that although many of the 21 will be standing down and it matters less to them one second it is not the case for some whose career should rightfully be ahead of them so I very much hope that my right honourable friend and our party system through our Chairman can appreciate that a route should be found back for those who wish to stand again and that all immediate selections for an alternative candidate should be suspended so that it can be known that they have a chance I'm not anyway to anybody explain so misses he goes no no so mr. speaker those are the three points that I simply want to make and I hope that as this house goes through what is a very difficult and painful process as we approach the election that when it is recomposed after that election we can appreciate the importance of legislation in this house and pay it proper attention so that members of parliament can see that making law is probably their most important role as members of parliament and that political combat should take a second place and if we do that we then I hope will never again have the folly of the fixed term Parliament's Act oh very well point of order mr. balls gully mr. speaker thank you very much I just I fear that my mind will fend might've hurt inadvertently mustard the house in terms of the fact that actually every single member of the of this party that has lost the whip has is still a member of the Conservative Party unless they have chosen to cross the floor and so so so the situation that he's described is not important to actually realize that the discussion that we're having is that we need to be in the place that we should be talking about I wish to be unkind to the origin because I recognize that he feels that he's got a serious point but it's not a matter for the chair and the right honourable member under Melton has if I may say so made a speech whose meaning is perfectly clear so if the on one wants to disagree with it you can do so elsewhere but it it's not not a matter that requires my adjudication I was absolutely clear what the right honorable gentleman was saying I don't think the house feels misled if I if I may very politely say so J Swinson Thank You mr. speaker and it is a delight to follow the right honourable member for Rutland and Melton who I think made a thoughtful contribution to this debate in what is an important time for Parliament and may I say in some stark contrast to the beginning of this debate which I'm afraid I do not believe was a very effective call for our constituents who are watching this and who are many of them worried about what is happening in our country right now the brain the bluster Britain deserves better I also want to commend the right honourable member for Hastings & rye for the brave decision that she took at the weekend we are in exceptional times and in the face of a prime minister who is prepared not only to shut out of his party more than 20 individuals who have given it great service he is prepared to shut down Parliament potentially float the rule of law and inflict on the British public the consequences of No Deal as outlined in the yellow hammer report I think it is time that others in the Conservative Party also examine their consciousness about what they can do and the role that they are playing in all of this the Prime Minister in his speech goaded those of us on the opposition benches who disagree with his - for an election and he said it is because we are afraid that he will win well I say to the Prime Minister people in this country are afraid they are afraid of a no deal bricks it they are afraid of a no deal brick set that his own government analysis that he is trying to keep secret even in the face of this house voting for it to be published says that there will be food shortages of fresh food and prices will rise but there will be delays and disruption to fuel supplies in the southeast and that there will be severe extended delays for medical supplies so it is no wonder that people are afraid and he should treat this matter with more seriousness I will give away their identity would she agree with me that instead of the government spending a hundred million pounds of taxpayers money on propaganda they should disclose the yellowhammer and spend a hundred million pounds promulgating that to educate the public about the horror that faces us if we have a No Deal well it's very clear that the government should release that report and they have been instructed to do so by this house I want to Scotch the myth that he is putting about that a No Deal brexit is in some way an end to this whole brexit issues as indeed leo rad car made clear today that that would be a case of being back to the negotiating table that a No Deal brexit is just the beginning of many further years of negotiations if people really want an end to this brexit mire the way to do that is to stop breakfast ok way anyway the guardian of which I'm an avid reader says Lib Dems are poised to back revoking of article v irony is that correct surprised that the Liberal Democrats are a party that wishes to stop breaks it and in a general election where we will stand to secure a liberal Democrat majority such a Liberal Democrat majority government would indeed revoke article 50 should be surprised by that position perhaps we should pay more attention but this government and this prime minister have no mandate for a No Deal break that that they are trying to force all the British people it is clear also from the resignations of the right honourable members both for Orpington and Hastings & rye that he has no plans for securing at breaks it deals he is not entering into this in any spirit of seriousness and I think that the speech by the Honourable member for Stafford made this point exceptionally well because how does the Prime Minister seriously think that with the previous occupant of that role having tried to negotiate a deal over the course of three years that he and he alone can achieve in four weeks what she failed to do and he can fight a general election at the same time what arrogance if he were serious about getting a deal he would be negotiating card in Brussels not running away from the responsibility of the job that Lao holds that he said he wanted for such a long time beyond the right honourable member for Rockland and Melton I think made the excellent point that a general election cannot be guaranteed to resolve this issue one way or the other the best way to do this is to hold a people's vote on the brexit deal to resolve this crisis to give people that choice of No Deal or to give people the choice of the breaks that deal that has been negotiated or to remain in the European Union but I do not believe there is a majority for any specific type of breaks in this country and we could determine whether that were the case or not in a people's vote the Liberal Democrats are crystal clear we want to stop breaks them I'll give way to the Honourable gentle for Cheltenham be grateful for your honorable lady for giving way the Honourable lady says that she wants a second referendum but the problem for the British people will be this if the answer she gets is one that she doesn't agree with the stated position of the Liberal Democrats is simply to ignore it I think he might do well to pay rather more attention to his constituents in Cheltenham and what they were [Applause] of course I've wad turns Liberal Democrats want us to stay in the European Union of course we want that to happen and we want people to have the choice to choose that order the points of water earlier in our proceedings about conduct that was very intimidating for members and in some cases members families I know that there are inflamed passions but I just asked members to consider this the Honourable lady is trying to deliver a speech and doing so with a customary eloquence and fluency now with our customary elephants and fluency she shouldn't be shouted down and she won't be stop it Jess Winston Thank You mr. speaker and I appreciate that others in the house would like the Liberal Democrats to be silenced and that will not happen on my watch because we are crystal clear on break that we want to stop brexit and that's why thousands of people across the country are joining the Liberal Democrats including MPs from both the Labour and the conservative parties there whether it's votes in this house or ministerial colleagues the Prime Minister is making a habit of losing and although I believe that a people's vote is the best route to resolve this I say to the Prime Minister he can have his general election as soon as he secures an extension because otherwise we risk the scenario where there is a general election where we might crash out of the European Union without a deal either during or in the immediate aftermath of such an election and with Parliament not sitting at those crucial moments it would be the height of irresponsibility to dissolve Parliament at that time any general election must be undertaken in a period of calm with an orderly approach not in a period of national crisis the Prime Minister is playing at this in his speech tonight he made it sound like this was sport like this was a game this is not a student debating society this is about the national interest about being sure that we avoid the risk of a No Deal breaks it and that's why we were both down his motion tonight Landru salut very much mr. speaker in normal circumstances parliamentary democracy serves our country well but in the last two and a bit years I have been ashamed of the behavior of this Parliament a parliament in which academic analysis referred to by the House of Commons library she points out that 409 out of the 650 constituencies had leaved majorities and that was on an 80 percent turnout far higher than any turnout that we are elected on at a general election so oft over the last two and a bit years we have a parliament that thinks it knows better than the public this Parliament looks listen to you we have a parliament that thinks it is acceptable to use representative democracy to defeat direct democracy a direct democracy explicitly agreed and voted for by this Parliament we have a parliament that has totally failed to work across party lines to find an acceptable way forward and we have a parliament that is very good at saying no but is bereft of ideas to come up with anything better and we also have a parliament where an increasing number of MPs were elected with often significant majorities for one party who then declare for another without any agreement from their constituents so if we value our democracy and everyone who took part in the referendum we must honor the result and everyone who voted all of whom were told that the result would be respected and democracy requires that the losers accept the results so we should honor the referendum by returning powers over our money laws borders and trade in a way that is orderly and supports jobs and I want to see our negotiations turbocharged we need a government with a mandate and a new Parliament that will actually vote for something for a change a new Parliament that will work in the national interest for a good deal that respects the referendum results George howarth its mr. speaker it's a pleasure to follow the Honorable gentle of the South West Bedford ship and I find it a little strange that he criticizes the house for not working on a cross-party basis that is why we are here tonight that is why so many of the parties in this House of Commons are going to oppose the government's motion I think what he means is he wants cross-party working so long as the trust parties work with him rather than between themselves mr. speaker in my time in this house I've seen seven Prime Minister's common go we are now taking a class I had enormous differences with many other things but in every case up until now I've always accepted they that they acted in good faith and what they perceived to be the national interest before I go any further mr. speaker I should point out that what I'm about to say breaks two real rules that upset myself during this time in the house my time in the house the first one is to try to play the ball or rather than the man or woman and the second is never to take issue with the chair I'm not about to break the second one Mr Speaker I will comment on the role of the chair mr. speaker all of the speakers I've served under I think that you're the force of always upheld the rights and privileges of members of this house which you have done as well and they've always behaved to uphold the Constitution of our country and the rules and so on of this house and they've all done it in their own distinctive way I want to pay tribute mr. speaker the way you've conduct so you have stood up for the rights of this house and often in the face of criticism from sometimes usually and on the government benches you showed great courage in carrying out your responsibilities and I pay tribute to the second rule which I am about to break brings me to the right honourable gentleman remember for Oxbridge and south Ruislip he is as everybody would agree often entertain me he does have as I know from some experience with him an enormous amount of stamina well political leaders need to have three additional qualities first it's essential that they exercise good judgment secondly they need to be trusted to follow a course of action that they genuinely believe is in the best interest of our country even in circumstances when it Mach might not be universally popular to do so and thirdly and I find this the most troubling part of the prime minister's speech tonight they need to be absolutely clear that on no occasion would they concept contemplate breaking the law of the land as suddenly had been demonstrated in his short time as Prime Minister the right honourable gentleman has shown either good judgment or any sense that he's willing to put what is in the best for our country ahead of his own personal ambition now mr. speaker in normal times the logic of the case I've just made would be that I would support the motion before us today well these are not normal the Prime Minister cannot be trusted to use the vacuum created by a general election to thwart the will of this house should if he's serious about coming up with a deal that will suit all of the concerns that we have why are we in this house this time of night debating whether or not to hold a general election why isn't any Brussels trying to get into you interests of this country above his own political ambitions let me be as clear as I can wish to speak to say I desperately want a general election because the people of domes we deserve better than the squalid mean and incompetent goblins but to shut down parlor for a general election at this critical point in our history would require us to trust that the prime minister would behave honorably mr. speaker I cannot take that on trust I'll conclude mr. speaker with some words that the house will be familiar with and those words are cometh the hour cometh the man crow is the speaker the hour has come but certainly not the man still I give you an older drink [Music] place to be called in this debate and to follow the Honorable gentleman that far knows Lee I have lost count to the number of times in the my travels through the beautiful constituency of Erskine Moulton where I've been approached by people saying what on earth are you lot doing down there why can't you simply just sort it out together but the reality is there are three reasons why we counted number one of course there are an awful lot of remain MPs in this Parliament and I speak as a remain member of parliament I voted to remain if there was another referendum I would vote to remain again but I do not advocate a referendum I've had my fill of referendums I'd also voted in this place to give the people a vote to decide whether we stay or we leave but nevertheless if people are straightforward when push comes to shove there are a number of MPs in this place who do want a second referendum whatever they might say the second reason as course is party politics and the leave your opposition of course is the worst culprit for this he claims now to leave the European Union with the wrong deal will be catastrophic despite the fact for decades his campaign to leave the European Union on Italy terms possible and the reality is of course and when the deal came back before this house a deal that was a fair deal in my view by the previous Brandes 90% of the colleagues on this side of the House voted to pass that deal only 2% 2% of members opposite voted for a deal five members of parliament too much party politics got in the way of a center here here and the final point is I think it is in terms of brexit perfection because there are 10% of the colleagues on this side of the house for whatever reason either deal was too hot or too cold we did not vote for that deal who was not seen as the Goldilocks deal some people said it wasn't Brixton some people said of course that people voted for a completely clean break but the reality is the vote leave campaign quite clearly says in their manifesto when we leave the European Union there is a European free trade zone that stretches from Iceland to the borders of Russia and when we leave we will be part of it so it is quite reasonable that people would expect when we leave there would be a deal and that's why the Prime Minister put her red lines sets out her red lines and brought back the deals she did which I think did respect the terms the promises that were made prior to that referendum so the question be meant to settle this issue the members opposite are often are often asking for a people's vote surely now is the right time for a people's vote because you can put happy to give away from my own rules as always were having a pretty important on the only sadness about probing is that we won't be having the Treasury select committee elections very significant you're not confusing for the public that many of them are opening their doors and finding on their Dormer a Labour leaflet that says on it we want a general election and we want it now confusing for the public it is very cozy and I too regret we're not here on Wednesday to go through that final election process but nevertheless surely now is the perfect time because yes the members opposite if they're right if the public doesn't want no D a deal or no deal surely they'll vote in their favor and they'll return it return a coalition government or a government that then can take their their their way forward but if they feel if they also feel they do want to move down the track of Deal or No Deal surely the vote for this side of the house for the conservative policy of delivering brexit on the 31st of October of this year surely it now is the right time to trust the people to make that choice is it not simply political advantage this getting in the way of that situation now there is an imperative now by setting keeping that deadline the 31st of October two imperatives one is getting the deal with the European Union the fact that there is that that deadline in time of the 31st of October but also an imperative in this house at that point in time when that deal comes back which I believe the Prime Minister can deliver that deal cause back to this house members across this house members across this house will have a choice either to vote for a deal or to vote for No Deal and then surely they'll choose a deal and we leave on the 31st of October [Applause] speaker first of all can I just say that I'm sorry to see you grow up because I know you've actually stood up for buck benches in the last 10 years and that you've been a great respecter of the chamber and it's just to wish you on your family all the best for the future I don't intend to speak pretty long but suffice to say that I actually agree with the Prime Minister uses the same languages language I do when he says put it to the people it's consider that the people should be engaged in a final sear so let them of the finals here in the complimentary ballots on the issue reflected in the tables board mr. speaker it is wrong to conflate brexit which is a decision for a generation with the general election campaign which is meant to decide a program of government for a maximum of five years I think the Prime Minister knows that I'm not going to give well I'm not going to speak for very long but I also think he's been found out it's about eight weeks to October the 31st but the Prime Minister wants us to check the next four or five weeks off with electioneering rather than going to look for a deal so I have some words of advice for the prime minister quarter Brussels and start negotiating bring back the deal a deal you were promised this country and put it to this house I'll helps a facilitate its passage through Parliament as long as it's put back to the British people for them to decide well they want to go ahead with it austere within the EU and a complimentary ballot mr. speaker the Prime Minister has lost the father of the house which the Churchill's grandson his own brother and I understand in the last few years the Duke of Wellington has left the Conservative Party the Prime Minister was actually maybe's Waterloo but it's a Conservative Party now that can change its mind or nor deal but refuses to allow the British people to do the same on brexit that needs to overseer a final say on brexit on the issue and after three and a half years the will of the people and the generational decision of brexit of the right to be us again and the light of the fact this government is hell-bent on moving towards the aux adore without the deal the government will say it would be a betrayal of brexit under the British people if we do not deliver on brexit I'll tell you what is a betrayal of trust it's leaving the EU EU without a deal and not telling the British people that are isn't the claim bread but like any brexit Dale but even more so in the event of noir Dale it will need two years of uncertainty economic wars but the majority of the people in this country include an unemployment could have caused the men foot pursuers objects these are the ones who won't be losing the jobs we need to resolve brexit with the complement confirmation of the British people that so it began in 2016 and that's there which should be brought to a conclusion the people of the right to compare the today with what was promised to them three and a half years ago threats had started with the people and it should end with the people Prime Minister resolve brexit first then let's of a general election a warm to support and the motion sodium cache misses speaker the fundamental question which faces us today about whether or not we should have an early parliamentary election is really the same question that we've been debating now for many many years in particularly the last three years in relation to the referendum result and the question is who governs this country that is the key question that is the issue which is before us tonight and I have to say that with the greatest concern that the Labour Party the opposition have taken the view that they should run away from the very question that they know they will not be able to answer unless they win the general election and they also know that they are not going to win that general election on all the present estimates that is the real reason why they will not answer the question who governs this country that is the real reason why they will not apparently I assume tonight vote in accordance with the answer to the question who governs this country to give us a general election and the the other point of course is that the leader of the Opposition kept on saying that he would only allow a general election if the bill which is being given Royal Assent today was passed and of course that bill has been passed but ironically it still hasn't answered the question which I posed at the beginning about the law of the land and who governs this country because there is nothing in this bill to actually section 1 of the withdrawal act itself which says as the law of the land that October the 31st is exit day as we speak in this debate and that the section 1 also says that the European commute is at 1972 is repealed and furthermore the commencement order has already been made there is nothing in that bill with which anybody can properly accuse the Prime Minister of of not complying with the rule of law because the rule of law is the 31st of October that is the law of the land and there is nothing in this bill that says otherwise so very briefly mr. speaker I simply say this this is a dereliction of duty by the party opposite they are refusing to allow the British people to decide who governs this country and they are running away from the fact that under the European communities act 1972 and the European Union we are governed by majority vote by the other countries of the European Union and that is the way in which they are themselves letting down the very people they represent and in those leave constituencies on the other side of the house there are people who know very well what is happening and they are not interested increasingly according to the opinion polls in supporting the Labour Party because they are running away they are running away from the one central question who governs Britain and the democracy that lies behind it give the people the freedom give the people the freedom to enable them to be able to decide instead of the rebel on the other side [Applause] I'm in Lewis mr. speaker in its handling of brexit this house has lost the respect of the country and made us a laughingstock around the world prolonged uncertainty as much as No Deal can tip us into recession with disastrous consequences for jobs and full living standards I hear high-minded speeches about protecting the Constitution and the propriety expected of government and I accept their a small number of members who are valent Lee opposed to No Deal but would support breaks it with a fair deal I also regret the fact that the government decided to probe this house which was unnecessary as it was undesirable but mr. speaker the vast majority on the opposition benches when they claim support for an affirmative referendum and or opposition to No Deal are determined to overturn the result of the referendum they have displayed an increasing contempt for our duty as Democrats to respect and implement the result they lecture others about democracy accountability and our national interest yet they are hell-bent on frustrating the will of the majority of the people as expressed in that referendum a mr. speaker they should be honest it is their objective to thwart brexit in whatever the circumstances whatever the deal is put to this house there are many many people it will vote against it because they want to thwart the will of the people in terms of that referendum result and it is many of the so-called progressives in this house who are fueling right-wing extremism by showing contempt for the result and the majority voted to leave we asked the people and they gave us their decision to leave the European Union I say that mr. speaker as a remainer one cannot be a selectively Democrat who only respects democracy when it delivers your preferred result and this goes to the root of the leader of the opposition's position tonight he demands an election time and time again but now given the opportunity he vetoes an election not because of a national interest or Sophie No Deal but he knows he would lose that election not not because of the vast majority of the values of decent Labour MPs and many Labour Party members but because as a lifelong euro skeptic leaving a party of remainders he's been caught out trying to have it both ways on break see time and time again because he does not have the leadership skills required at a time of so many challenges facing our country and because his leadership has led to the party of anti racism an equality becoming the party of institutionalized anti-semitism so much so so much so Mr Speaker that a majority of Jews in this country feel they would not be safe in the event of him becoming Prime Minister Mr Speaker this house cannot stand up for the public interest or break it stalemate for over three years therefore the national interest demands a general election then maybe mr. speaker a new house will be able to show the leadership that this country needs and it deserves and it deserves to begin the process of rebuilding trust in this place and healing the scars of division in our society and I hear some of my honourable friends say what about a by-election because that's what the momentum type-c my constituency keep saying I'm running away from the alleged row by not having a violation now I'm an independent I'm voting for a general election tonight I'm willing to face in my constituency unlike too many of the people these and finally mr. speaker there were many tributes paid today quite rightly mr. speaker to the way you were presiding over this house and I would like to add to that the word that you did for children with speech and language difficulties which changed the lives of many families but when I heard the speeches earlier and they talked about how proud they were of this House of Commons they're not living in the real world my vote is my constituents are not proud of this House of Commons they think we've entirely lost the plot mr. speaker so the time has come for people to be honest where they British people and that honesty means that we need to respect the result of that referendum otherwise the alternative will be to fuel right-wing populism like we've never seen in the history of this country [Applause] mr. speaker nobody can argue that tonight we are not facing in our past that affects not just the question of our relationship with Europe at the very constitution of our country and so the question of a people's vote sadly I find is not an answer because this question is not just one question it is every question the only way to answer it is to ask the British people ask them who do they want as their advocates in this house who do they want speaking for them not just on one issue but on every issue the question mr. speaker is who will stand up in the brief people will call elections and will ask them who governs Britain my my gates or thank oh I've never known a situation which mr. gates can't be heard if there's some private spat taking place it should take place outside of the chamber nor in it very unsatisfactory mr. Mike gapes mr. speaker firstly can I pay tribute to you and what you have done to stand up for representative parliamentary democracy against an arrogant and overbearing executive I don't have long I want to make two points firstly there is an old adage neither Washington nor Moscow and I say neither up's bridge nor Islington in this time of national crisis this country is in a very dangerous place and it is time for all the moderates Social Democrats and One Nation conservatives and liberals came together to stop the extremism which is going to damage our country for decades to come we have to stop this process where and the best way is to recognize a general election will not resolve it as the member from Rutland made clear what we have to do is put the issue back to the people as the member so others have said we need a people's vote which is a choice an informed choice we should pause on this process stop the No Deal brexit defend the people in Ireland and in Gibraltar and the question is thank you the question is there that there shall be an early parliamentary general election as many as either a billion say aye of the country now in Asia [Music] elevate the question is that this will be an early parliamentary general election as many as other Davina's AI of the country know it tell us for the eyes Ian Stewart & Stewart Andrew tell us for the nose well in shorthand a break and a lake Tom break and burn lake [Music] [Music] [Music] bras [Music] Oh the eyes to the right 293 the nose to the left 46 the eyes for the right 293 the nose to the left 46 of the eyes have it the eyes have it however I say by way of explanation for those who observe our proceedings and the the nods suggests they're well ahead of me at which I would expect the majority does not satisfy the requirements of the fixed term Parliament's Act for the purpose of engendering the election that some seek simply the messenger live report is the facts I'm glad the matter is of interest to those who are looking upstairs and thank you very much indeed order point of order the run [Applause] [Music] [Applause] the house to trust the people but once again the opposition think they know better they want the British Prime Minister to go to a vital negotiation without the power to walk away they want to delay Bret's it yet again yet again without further reference to those who voted for it handing over to Brussels an extra 250 million pounds a week for no purpose and after I played more than five hospitals or trained 5000 new nurses and most egregiously of all not only have they refused to choose the way ahead they have now twice denied the British people their say in election the house cannot choose it will not let anyone else choose mr. speak it resolves only to be really resolute decides only to be undecided determined to dinner adamant for drift and so now the house will move to adjourn and resume the state opening in the Queen's speech on October the 14th and I hope the opposition will use that time to reflect meanwhile this government will press on with negotiating a deal while preparing to leave without one and I will go to that crucial summit in Brussels on October the 17th and no matter how many devices this Parliament invents to tie my hands I will strive mr. speaker to get an agreement in the national interest this government will not delay brexit any further we will not allow the emphatic verdict of the referendum to be slowly suffocated by further [Applause] and while the opposition run from their duty to answer to those who put us here they cannot hide forever the moment will come when the people will finally get their chance to deliver their verdict mr. speaker on how faithfully this house executed their wishes and I am determined that they will see that it was this government that was on their side the point of order mr. speaker I think we've had quite enough of the playground politics of conservative [Applause] the one thing the Prime Minister didn't say was that he was going to obey the law of this country he he did not say he acknowledged or accepted three votes that have taken place in this Parliament and under his request the houses now do apparently this evening to be prorogued for one of the longest progress prorogation in history simply in order to avoid any questioning of what he is doing or not doing simply to avoid discussion about yellowhammer visit particularly to avoid any discussion about the proposals he has or hasn't or do or don't exist that have been put to the European Union mr. speaker this government is a disgrace and the way the Prime Minister operates is a disgrace Oh be quiet Jeremy Corbyn Mr Speaker I hope the Prime Minister will reflect on the issue of Pro regression and shutting down Parliament to avoid a government being held to account was that is exactly what he has done today and proposes to do to this country [Music] [Applause] point of order Ian Blackburn Thank You mr. speaker and I should perhaps congratulate the Prime Minister because at least he's been consistent his lost every vote he's brought to this house the reason mr. speaker that it's fine to shut down democracy this evening the message that must go to the Prime Minister as well he can run for the next few weeks but we'll be back here in the middle of October he is the Prime Minister of a minority government and he's been given an instruction that is to go to Brussels and get an extension here once that extension has been delivered we will have an election and Boris will be swept from government the people of Scotland will get their scene and I look forward to us securing our future as an independent we've from the clutches of a Tony brexit Britain an isolationist Britain taking us away from our partners Ridge and the European Union [Applause] Sir Edward de Vere an award Thank You mr. speaker food water this is a sad day actually for our democracy we are seeing we are seeing this Parliament shut down mr. speaker because the Prime Minister is running away from accountability [Applause] Prime Minister who said so he's not prepared to abide by the rule of law is running away from this Parliament I offer the Prime Minister way out the Liberal Democrats offer the Prime Minister way out put it to the people in a people's vote thank you point of order Rachel Maskull I wonder if you can advise me how I can put on record the views of my constituents this evening I was due to present a petition to this house forthcoming from thousands of my constituents who wish Parliament not to be probed due to the procedures the voices of my constituents will be silenced this evening and the petition will not be placed could you advise me on the actions that I can now take hey there are two actions that can be taken one is to speak on the floor of the chamber which is what the Honourable lady is just done and to that extent she's found her own salvation and the second course of action open to the Honourable lady is to deposit the petition in the bag and I've got a feeling that with the fleetness of foot that will be admired in all parts of the house that is the action that the Honourable lady will now take it may be a second best so far she is concerned but as I say she has found a means by which expressions of the concerns of her constituents point of order these several Roberts [Applause] thirty-four days during which all the checks and balances and gears of parliamentary democracy have been deliberately stalled when the government teachers between avoiding and evading the law this is neither normal nor honourable we desperately need a new politics of citizens conventions in every nation of truth and conciliation in an informed referendum with article 50 revoked if necessary to allow this to happen yeah now I know I can't aren't you to resolve this in all honesty but I think the time is fast approaching we have to do exactly that thank you point of order Gary Lucas Thank You mr. speaker the events of tonight I think have shown so clearly that our political system is broken it is wrong that a Prime Minister can suspend Parliament mere inconvenience simply to avoid scrutiny it is wrong that he can cynically try to use the proposal for a general election as a way of getting us to crash out of the EU while we're in the middle of a general election we cannot continue with this uncodified Constitution that depends on people playing by the rules when we have a federal government that not only is not playing by the rules but isn't even going to abide by the law we ardently need a written constitution a citizen's convention to inform it no one voted for Less democracy we should design our constitutional settlement so that such as cynical power grab can never be allowed to happen again thank you go away Graham thank you very much I seek your guidance because I think many of our constituents will be confused tonight they will be confused because the Labor Party there's asked for general election for two years turned it down party there's acting anything but democratic party that is so arrogant it says it speaks for all of Scotland when no one parties tonight we put a lot of people in this house have put our faith you say about shouting people down but you're happy to set me down I think [Applause] speaker when we come back a lot of people have put faith in the my right honorable friend the Prime Minister to come back with a new deal there are concert concerns about time in the time that you have left mr. speaker can you assure the house the additional time will be made for debate when we come back if that means late night sittings if that means weekend sittings we shall habit because we need to debate a new a new rule and hopefully you will help facilitate [Applause] before thee I just said I will come to the right honorable table of the houses in charge of its own procedures I note the opinion that the Honorable gentleman holds it will be shared by many of his colleagues I'm sure but not by others and as I say the house is in command of its own procedures we don't have executive control of the house the house can do as it wishes in these matters and his opinion on this subject will have been heard point of order mr. Bower Francois Thank You mr. speaker mr. speaker I'm not served in this house for as long as you but I do recall around a decade ago that the Lisbon Treaty was rammed through this house without a referendum that caused such ill feeling among the people of the United Kingdom that in a way that no one could have predicted at the time within seven years the people of this country voted to leave the European Union my point is that the people who ran the treaty through at the time thought they were being very clever history proved them wrong the people on the other side of the house who think they have been very clever tonight by resisting a general election cannot hide forever from the judgments of the people they said ask Not For Whom the Bell Tolls [Applause] because eventually mr. speaker it tolls for them I'm grateful to the ride-on general point of order Brenda er well a point of order could you advise me highlight of a gist of my anger and deep frustration and reaches a preferably undemocratic suspension of this family this evening one of two little family and mr. speaker surely the least that might avail and beautiful statutes could expect that the Member of Parliament is able to represent in this chamber thank you the gentleman began his attempted point of order by inquiring how he could register his anger he has of course now done so it's on the record it will be reproduced in the official report and something tells me that his observations in the official report will shortly be winging their way towards the local media in the Honorable gentleman's constituency if there are no further points of order very well point of order Patricia Gibson [Music] [Applause] Thank You mr. speaker people have stopped enforced overwhelmingly two men in the EU [Applause] 60% I see dance mr. speaker because tonight not only have they being ignored their views have been dismissed with utter contempt and I ask you mr. speaker what Outland the people of Scotland can have until me [Applause] [Applause] the time when the Honourable lady's constituents and more widely the electorate of Scotland might be in a position to register their views in the way she suggests could well be not long from now no set of points of order would be complete without the product of the Luke aberrations of the Honourable gentleman toe in order Aston Martin's awfully huge Thank You mr. speaker I wonder if you could advise me on process for what is supposed to be the mother of parliament non-super members opposite should maybe wish to be but whatever asked mr. speaker in terms of especially those who can a hot dog drink mr. speaker is if the government does not meet the obligations of a vote of the house in the next few weeks what is open not only to members who have overwhelmingly rejected the government's position not only in terms of a general election at this time but more importantly of implementing the majority of members decisions in terms of a new deal break set what is open to you as the chair of this house to assure not only myself but my constituents that a government which does not listen to the so-called sovereign Parliament is therefore undermining fundament the Honourable member should maybe wish to be man I've stolen one so mo tell them again [Applause] the fact he's not even be able it take a chair and set enough layoffs he's made a bit ham then they all a member on this house if the government will not implement the law of the United Kingdom of Great Britain of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Sasha but what is open to you mr. speaker and the house to make sure that they do well I'm grateful to the honourable gentleman at this stage it's a hypothetical question because one would need to look at the specifics but what I would say to the Honourable gentleman is that if there is a dispute as to water law means or what compliance with it looks like that is ultimately justiciable and therefore it is to be expected that it would be the subject of a court ruling and these are not uncommon matters so it would be a very high-profile situation in the circumstances with which we're dealing but it does seem to me that members should reflect upon these matters and think about their options and the attitude of their colleagues in the cool light of day that is not necessarily best achieved by a furious focus at 12:50 1:00 in the morning and when water caste black man speaker and during the course of this process the European statutory instrument sifting committee was set up in order to sift those statutory instruments that were required in the event of a over breaks that happening in advance of the 29th of March the government brought forward a number of these new DLS eyes in order that they said that the UK would be prepared for a new deal brexit the Europeans I transmit sifting committee has sifted 240 of these Saturday instruments have come forward to it as negative instruments there'll be 580 in total I've discovered today mr. speaker that the government intends to bring forward ten of these statutory instruments as made affirmative statutory instruments in order to ensure that we are prepared for a new deal exit mr. speaker I'm a bit confused as to why the government did not bring these forward in advance of the 29th of March if no deal breaks that was supposed to happen on that date or the second date that no deal breaks that was supposed to happen or in fact at any time before this prohibition happened so that the EU statute instruments sifting committee could sift them as appropriate and so the house would have the opportunity to have it see on whether or not these were appropriate stature instruments to go through is there any recourse that we can have given that prorogation is about to happen and these instruments will be made with I'm not privy to the government's thoughts on these matters it would be perfectly open for a member of the executive branch to respond to the Honourable lady of hear she say wish but I didn't detect a notable enthusiasm I'm not aware looking at him now in his body language that the leader of the house is about the one coil and if he were to do so doubtless he would give a response but he's not doing so so although it is a matter of very considerable importance of the Honorable lady it's not something in relation to which I could offer her help now I suggest that she takes it up in view of the important position in her party she holds with the leader of the house whom I've always found them are saying every dealing a most courteous and agreeable individual and I'm sure that he would be more than content to discuss this matter with her either over a cup of English breakfast tea or conceivably something stronger mr. speaker early this week the right honourable gentleman opposite said that he would vote for a general election tonight at Royal Assent was passed but today he said that he will not because he wants to prevent No Deal can you confirm mr. speaker that actually if an election had been held on the 15th of October there would have been plenty of time had the right honorable gentlemen won the election to have prevented No Deal and a natural flood there must be another reason for him running scared confirm anything of the sort and the expression plenty of time here is an evaluative statement it is obviously a view that she holds and she's entitled to it but I certainly can't confirm anything of the sort I think his century the Honourable lady is accusing the leader of the Opposition of Church of ization and it's not a new charge turgid ization yes it's not a new charge the charge that's been leveled many times over the centuries no no I really I didn't need anything further no no no nothing further regard that's the child in it that's the charge she's leveling but you know it's a it's not a fatal charge it's not a playful job it has it has to be it has to be said not only is it not a fatal charge it's not a novel concept or without precedent in the history of our politics I will leave it there as point of order Stephen guillotines mr. speaker the Prime Minister has previously intimated that there may be a number of solutions and new negotiations ahead of the next European Council though members on his own site might say that he's being disingenuous if we are true wrong what opportunity does this house have to consider them before the next European Council the house is scheduled to return on the 14th of October and the honourable gentleman knows for what purpose we will resume for the gracious address in the opening of the new session but the house and its members are legendarily ingenious in ensuring that that which they wish to be attended to in the house is attended to in the house order order the sitting is suspended until 10 past 1:00 shortly for the sitting resumes I shall cause the division bells to be sounded order order

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Published: Tue Sep 10 2019