>> THE TORONTO AREA LIBERAL MP HAS ANNOUNCED SHE WILL NOT RUN IN THE NEXT ELECTION. SHE'S BLAMING THE CURRENT POLITICAL CULTURE. PAM DAMOFF SAYS SHE'S FACED THREATS AND MISOGYNY TO THE POINT WHERE SHE OFTEN FEARS JUST GOING OUT IN PUBLIC. AND THEN JOINS ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT THAT. PAM. PRETTY HARD TO HEAR WHAT WOMEN GO THROUGH ON THE JOB. I'M JUST WONDERING FOR YOU, WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST I GUESS, AGREES OR OFFENSIVE THING YOU'VE EXPERIENCED. >> I THINK IT'S SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS AND IT'S NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL INCIDENT. I THINK WHAT FOR ME HAS CHANGED. OVER THE LAST 9 YEARS HAS BEEN REALLY THE DISCOURSE THAT I ENCOUNTER AT HOME AND AND ALSO JUST THE AND THE TALKS. A CITY IN PARLIAMENT, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN ONE SPECIFIC INCIDENT. IT'S JUST BEEN A I'VE EXPERIENCED MISOGYNY SINCE I GOT ELECTED IF THAT'S NOT NEW, IT'S JUST GOTTEN WORSE OVER THE YEARS AND AND THE PERSONAL THREATS HAVE HAS DEFINITELY INCREASED, NOT AS BAD AS SOME OTHER IN PEACE KID IT, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE IT WORSE THAN I DO, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S GOTTEN A LOT WORSE. IT IS JUST NOT FOR ME. YEAH, IT'S JUST TOO BAD THAT YOU HAVE TO EVEN MAKE THAT COMPARISON ABOUT GETTING THREATS AND OTHER PEOPLE. I HAVEN'T EVEN WORSE THREATS. THEN YOU HAVE HAD WHEN DID IT START TO CHANGE? DID YOU NOTICE OF PARTICULAR POINT WHERE THINGS STARTED TO CHANGE? IT WELL, THE LAST ELECTION, I DEFINITELY NOTICED IT WAS DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK THINGS CHANGED OVER THE COURSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND THAT A FRIEND OF MINE SAID TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS SHE WAS TALKING TO A PROFESSOR WHO SAID THAT THE WAY THAT PEOPLE DEAL WITH THREATS HAS CHANGED, WHETHER IT'S A THREAT TO THEIR WHOLE HEALTH, THE THREAT TO THEIR SAFETY AND WHETHER IT'S LIKE I, I DON'T KNOW THE REASON WHY, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN SINCE THE PANDEMIC THAT IT'S GOTTEN MUCH, MUCH WORSE. HOW YOU HANDLE THAT IN THE IN THE PAST 2 YEARS, BECAUSE WE ARE NOW WELL AWAY FROM THE PANDEMIC. I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE IT IN THAT INTERIM PERIOD. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, I'VE BEEN FINE. I LOVE WHAT I DO. I LOVE THE JOB. I HAVE AN AMAZING FAMILY. I HAVE AMAZING STAFF TO WORK WITH ME. IT'S JUST IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT I CAN CONTINUE AS AN MP AND END. I THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT RATE. THE PEOPLE WHO RUN FOR POP PUBLIC OFFICE SHOULD BE SUBJECTED TO THIS KIND OF THESE. AND IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO POLITICIANS, JOURNALISTS, WOMEN IN JOURNALISM OR CERTAINLY FACING A SIMILAR KIND OF ABUSE. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE HAVE MORE EMPATHY FOR ONE ANOTHER AND TREAT EACH OTHER WITH KINDNESS. >> DO YOU THINK THAT AND FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE IN TIME IN THE HOUSE, DO YOU SEE MALE POLITICIANS DEALING WITH THE SAME KIND OF TACTICS? IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SAME. I REMEMBER SEAN FRASER SAYING TO ME. >> QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY, THAT THE KIND OF ABUSE, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT MYSELF AND AT THE TIME IT WAS BRIDGET THAT JORDAN THAT WAS TALKING TO HIM. AND HE JUST SAID WHAT I GET IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. I TEND TO GET A PEOPLE ATTACKING ON POLICY, WHERE IS FOR YOU AND AND OTHER WOMEN. IT'S, IT'S, WHEREAS FOR YOU AND OTHER WOMEN IT'S PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> CATHERINE McKENNA CITED SIMILAR REASONS FOR LEAVING POLITICS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO WOMEN THINKING OF TAKING UP A CAREER IN POLITICS? >> WELL, I MEAN I WOULD ENCOURAGE WOMEN TO RUN. I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WOMEN FROM ALL PARTIES AND START TO SPEAK UP THAT ENOUGH IS SNUFF AND HAVE OUR MALE COLLEAGUES ALSO SPEAK UP AND CHANGE THE TONE. PEOPLE LOOK TO POLITICIANS WHERE THEY USED TO LOOK AT POLITICIANS AND LOOK FOR LEADERSHIP FROM POLITICIANS AND I THINK IT'S TIME THAT EVERYONE STEPS UP AND YOU KNOW WHAT I SAW YESTERDAY IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS WAS JUST DISGUSTING. AND IT SHOULD NOT BE REFLECTIVE OF OUR THE RCHL WE SHOULD BE SHOWING TO ONE ANOTHER. >> DO YOU THINK MALE POLITICIANS ARE NOT STEPPING UP? NOW MORE RECENTLY? YOU SAID THEY SHOULD BE. ARE THEY NOT DOING IT TODAY? >> DAY ARE. AND I HAVE YOU KNOW I HAVE PEOPLE IN MY PARTY WHO HAVE BEEN AMAZING. BUT I SEE IT ACROSS THE AISLE AND I SEE QUITE FRANKLY THE WAY THE OPPOSITION LEADER TREATS PARLIAMENT AND SPEAKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE AND WHEN HE MAKES
