Let's Talk Cool Season Grass - Special Guest Devin Mergl

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] well happy Friday everyone it's a very very special live stream this evening my name is Ron Henry and I am here to help answer your lawn care questions now if this is the first time you're joining us welcome we are super super happy to have you here way it works is really simple on your screen you're going to see a chat box in that chat box you can answer your question concern comment of the day and I work through them in the order that they come in now sometimes I have the answer sometimes I do not but either way we have an awesome time talking about lawn care and sometimes life so guys as you guys know um we have um you know a couple couple of regulars of the live stream and um one of them is a golf course superintendent for the club at flying horse um out at or or the flying or yeah the club at flying horse out of out in Colorado Springs um Devin so he's on tonight with us to you know any questions you guys have particularly around cool season Turf crafts or really anything uh you if you guys some of you guys have the idea that you wanted to have a golf green at home you know this would be the guy to throw those questions to any anything involving cool SE and Turf gr uh tonight is your night you guys I often complain that you know the show is largely for warm season folks so tonight it's all about you guys so let me see if I can bring Devon in here and we can get this rolling all right all right Devin you there yeah Hey Ron what's going on good good man yeah thanks so much for taking some time to to come hang out this evening and uh and take uh take some questions just you know do what we do on the uh on the live stream so um so so I'm going to look for some questions from from some of the viewers but before while we while I do that tell us a little bit about yourself as far as you know like what you do like how many years you've been working in turf grass that type of thing okay uh so started working at a golf course in 2007 um just a high school job um did that all the way up through high school um went to Colorado State um gradu graduated from there with my turf management degree in 2014 um took a job out in Long Island um worked at a course out there for about a year and a half and then came back home and I've been at flying horse for just about 10 years now so um been doing it doing it for quite a while now nice nice cool so um so yeah so so so 2007 up to now so that's uh that's so you're coming up on 20 years that's pretty good yep which is pretty funny it's like two-thirds of my life because I'll be 30 32 32 this year yeah so nice nice well I mean the thing good thing is right you you figure out what you like at a relatively young age stuck with it and you know sky the limit I mean being a being a super for a course I've seen the pictures of the course is a really nice course is a is is a big accomplishment so pretty it's pretty fun office to have nice yeah yeah definitely all right so let's see what we have as far as the questions this evening guys um as always we're coming to you guys live on YouTube as our primary platform Facebook Instagram and Twitter for any of you guys that are on Instagram um you know if you want to be able to um get your question up on the screen come over to YouTube just go to YouTube type Ron Henry and live stream and they'll it should show up as one of the options for you to join so do that if you guys want to be part of it as well so I have a question here for someone on Instagram it's uh sportser 9 UM 1993 and his question is best time to kill grubs in Wisconsin so um probably once the soil's thought out enough and you start seeing a little bit of activity um you don't want to do it too quick and have that active flushes the profile before they can take advantage and get contact on them um so I'd let it warm up a little bit um kind of pre preemergent kind of soil temps is what I would do and then apply that but sure yeah so this it's a good good point so I mean as far as um you know by doing it too early like uh you know if you get a lot of heavy snow or rainfall or you know to your point you can it can be washed through the profile before you you know really get a chance to um to take advantage of it and have it do its thing um yeah might not be active yet might not be active I was going to say yeah the grubs might not be active yet um to to take up that active ingredient they still might be in that winter state so um sure once everything warms up you know they'll be warmed up and then you you'd be safe to apply gotcha okay yeah so Wisconsin probably too soon in Georgia Northeast Georgia we um we'll get ours out in like April this time frame so it works well for us so hopefully that helps and you know you probably have a bit bit more time to wait before you put your grub control out all right uh so next up we have um Jeremy Espinosa he has a question here he says uh what seed is similar to Ard 15 I have tiway 419 and I have some bare spots that don't grow debating on purchasing Monaco seed thanks so uh so here's the thing um Jeremy there's I have not seen any of the Bermuda grass seeds that really approach the the texture and color of Arden 15 or princess 77 um to you didn't ask this question but as far as fixing bare spots in Bermuda grass I'm not a fan of using grass seed to do that because unlike Lawns where that's a strategy to to fix be spots with Bermuda um like hybrid Bermuda tends to be a finer Leaf um the growth characteristics are a little bit a bit um slower or it's a little bit different anyway and the color is is is definitely a lot um darker as far as color versus um your Commons um and once you go out and you you introduce a common Bermuda or an improved common like mon like Yukon you really can't get rid of it you can't get rid of it without damaging the hybrid in the process so what I always tell folks to do is you have a bare spot in the lawn and you know that it's not due to lack of sunlight not due to a disease problem nutrient problem there's some kind of debris that's causing the grass to not not do well there um once the lawn wakes up and is growing well consider transferring plugs from the parts of your lawn that are doing well to the areas that are bare and that's going to speed up the process as far as getting the Bermuda to fill in and the nice thing is you are guaranteed is going to match whereas if you got and get sod or you got and get you know definitely any kind of grass seed um it's you know as far as it matching cway 49 you're you're rolling the dice and I don't think you're going to be happy with how it looks so um so yeah and that's that's an interesting um difference I'd say Devon right so for cool for cool season grass like you know if you guys have like Ry grass or any kind of damage on the course like seeding like a lot of times the mix that's in the golf carts there's there's grass seed in that right to help patch um patch damaged areas yep um It's actually kind of funny we're one of the few courses where we just have our seed bottles are just straight sand um okay we have such an aggressive uh Bluegrass that within a week those divots will heal up on themselves as long as they get filled nice nice yeah that's that's most courses do most courses do have set but you guys yours are so aggressive that it's that just fills on its own nice yeah nice nice nice yes so it's more of a cool season thing Jeremy um okay so next up we have so we got someone from Melbourne Australia or is it Melbourne I I don't know how you say it properly I'm probably not saying it right um he says all the way from Melbourne Australia how's it going things are going well man it's a great night to be on the live stream if you have questions about cool season and turf grass come over to YouTube we have Devon here to help out with that um let's see here so Jason Harrison up next he says getting closer to the revolution 26 deliveries um at laad has been posting videos go check it out after the stream looks amazing what's up Devon looking forward to learning more about cool season grass yeah so if you guys are interested in seeing some footage that's not me or Lee of someone else running the revolution 26 I I think he posted a video yesterday um about the revolution 26 at at the turf Park and shows him mowing the Bermuda and all different types of way they do a really much longer review than what I do uh so yeah check it out give him some support give him some love I think he's gonna be making a lot of content on the revolution 26 so if you're interested check out laad nice all right next up we got Ved Navi he says Hi everyone what's going on Ved I believe ved's up from up North as well too I'm not sure if it's Canada or wherever but pretty far up north Jackie bear saying have an excellent stream what's going on Jackie Zach saying uh oh I got to step in into this one all right okay all right so we have a question now for um that I it's good that you're here tonight because there's no way I would know the answer to this this is from Platinum exterior she says Hey Ron really should be hey Devon I live in Wisconsin and and things have been warm mid-50s for weeks now can we start overseeding here what do you think um you're kind of like right on that fine line um I'd wait till like maybe 55 60 soil temps um get get up just a little bit I'm not sure if you're talking air temp or your soil temps but I would wait till your soil temps are 5560 I mean if you're in the 50s you can probably go ahead and put that seed down you're just not going to see anything until temperatures come up enough to um start the germination process um so either way you can you can do it now you just won't see anything until till Mother Nature says it's a go so it's time nice cool and he has a followup question this is a good one this is kind of ties into a lot of the work you've been doing as far as like lawn prep and that type of thing um John Williams is up next um he says he plans on seeding his backyard with some kind of coolies in Grass due to shade tolerance because of the trees do you have any recommendations on on C kelp I think you're asking and a procedure on what to put down with it so I can I can start with this one you can chime in if you if you want um Devin so as far as kelp the product that I like is um one that we carry from Miramichi green is called Neutra kelp it's a 24% kelp product along with um micronized carbon and other another micronutrient um as far as um preparing the surface um outside of the liquid product outside the kelp product I'd also uh use um a a granular bio stimulant like um like essential G or carbonized PN either of those will work work well and that's going to really set you up in a in a good spot the only other thing I'd say is that if you not sure if you've done a soil test this yet but as far as a good starter fertilizer um that would be something else that I would add as part of this process as well so a good starter fertilizer um a granular bio stimulant and then the kelp product that you asked about which is the 14714 I can give you links to all that as well while Devon gives his his thoughts on it as as well yep I was going to say everything you just said I agree with um and then as far as seed type or what what kind of seed you'd want to use um I would use either like R A Ry grass or a blueg grass there's um different varieties you just kind of got to do your research and see which ones have the best shade tolerance and then go from there um because there's obviously there's some types that do better in the Sun and then there's other types that do better better in the shade so you just got to kind of do your due diligence and pick which one would be best for your scenario right now of the two I mean and here's the thing you don't have to answer this you don't want to because I know I mean this is a really touchy subject so Ry grass versus Bluegrass which is your like what's your your go-to what's your favorite what's your what's your thing I love I love Bluegrass um honestly um right now in the saw that I had installed um I believe I have five varieties in there um and then I'm going to be doing an overseed or an interseed I guess you should say um with three more different varieties here in a couple weeks beginning April first week of April when I do all my irration and all that for the first time um so I'll I'll have eight different Bluegrass varieties in in my yard so I'm a Bluegrass guy but I do love I do love Ry grass Ry grass is awesome it Stripes really good um germination is a million times better on Ry grass um you don't have to be as patient it's a little more forgiving um how you how you plant it and what you do with it um but then on the other side things I love Ry grass because it's romatic even though there's some new varieties um of the Ry grass that has that versus the Blue Grass but I'm I'm definitely a Bluegrass guy blueg grass guy you know it's interesting because you're going to have like like eight or so different cultivars or varieties of Bluegrass so that's kind of different to Bermuda like where where we pretty much it's like you have one type of Bermuda it's either Tiff way or um you know Tiff tough Tiff green TOA 31 um with cool seeds and Lawns having a blend is really more of a thing even I look at like seeds from barenberg it's typically not just one one cultivar it's like multiple and I guess that that's just for resistance and hardiness and I guess the benefit of doing a blend is what um yeah just just different factors they all kind of have their one really good strong suit and then they all kind of come together and create a really good good uh Turf system um it's funny I was actually GNA wonder if this would come up I can actually took a screenshot of the five varieties that I currently have in there right now so I have a showcase Sr 2100 brilliant Northstar and Moonlight and this is all from aad company here in the springs that grows um Sports Turf so same sod that we buy for the golf course is what I had put in here and then I have I bought 10 lbs of 30 365 SS um from Twin City seed so that'll be um bolt blue note and I can't think of the third one off the top of my head but there's another one that legend legend Bluegrass okay nice nice yeah so that's that's something that's very different compared to you know warm seat like Bermuda or zoa we pick one and that's it so it's interesting that you guys um like a blend is really that's a fairly common um strategy as far as that goes yeah it's nice gives you really good flexibility cool all right so we have our Super Chat our first Super Chat of the evening actually we got two um first one is John Williams and John I'm sorry says super he says like sh uh like subscribe share sponsor please you got it John um we also have Luis AO so what we're going to do is I'm going to do both of you guys that way you guys could both be up for a while CU I just saw yours Super Chat received um he says good evening I got my humic maxpro Max sticker glad you got it says uh also Soul test um shows everything is good except high pH again thoughts on dealing with a pH issue on cool seas and grass thanks uh what what say you um Devon um I'm going to try to think of this off the top of my head um because I haven't had to do it in a long time but I want to say is it dolomitic lime is what lowers um no so it would be far as P yes if you're trying to bring it up we any kind of line will raise um if he's trying to lower we're gonna have to use Like A sulfate of some kind so that's okay yeah yeah so it's so some kind of sulfate is what I would say Louise how high is high you said High I mean if some some of you guys see like 7.1 and you guys freak out and it's that's really while it is you know you're getting Al you're getting trending more alkaline it's not um you know it's it's it's like you're still you're still within the range it's really when you start getting um you know 7 73 74 75 is when I would I would start taking a lot of action so um it just really depends on on where you are so if if you get a chance send me an email let me know like what you're actually like what levels we're actually talking about here and um as far as a sulfate if you want one and I actually have it up here because you get this question every single week this is the one that I would recommend all right and um before I forget and and get the IR let me here at Louis Louise yep and then Soul fate um before I forget and get the IR of Lis and John um let me get you guys up as a show sponsor so there you go your name in lights for whatever that means to you I'll put it up here because not much space all right that works all right so thank you guys so much really do appreciate the Super Chat and um Louise depending on where how high you're saying your how high it really is it may be nothing to worry about or it you know worst case you can use some kind of a sulfate or something to um to bring it down nice cool all right so we have another question this one is um it's a good one so from lawn adct he says so I do have a question in Heatwave conditions how much extra watering do you do in Melbourne today it is almost 40° celi which is 102 degrees Fahrenheit that's hot um yeah it's a good point so as far as your watering strategy on the course um Devon what do you guys I mean is it fairly consistent or do you guys in the summertime you put more water on the turf like how do you determine how much water you're going to run on on the turf at any given you know day week or whatever um yeah so it it gets pretty consistent um we 90 degrees 95 degrees is about as hot as it gets where we are and that's like pretty warm because we we set up pretty high with the altitude um but we use our irrigation computer we has a weather station so we kind of Base stuff off ET um we also have moisture censors sensors throughout the uh the course that we get data from that kind of tells us what's going on um and then I have a handheld moisture meter that I use on the greens that um tells me what we need to do and we only water the greens twice a week anything else is supplemental hand watering um and maybe a singe if it's really hot in the mornings but nothing nothing crazy and then usually um like Fairways and rough go back and fourth every other night so they alternate so they could water three or four times a week depending on when their Cycles start at the week whatever okay goes first at the beginning of the week um te's maybe two times two three times a week Max um so it's really it's really not a lot um it's just okay kind of just every other week every other day kind of and you just kind of monitor it and then um if if we don't need as much you can actually scale down percentages so we can water but it won't put out as much as it normally does um so it's set up in minutes and then there's a percent adjust so you can adjust that down and however far up or down you adjust that it'll add time onto those run times um and then we actually have like Hotpot programs so if say we get a tenth of an inch of rain we can just run a hotspot program which will just water the spots that dry out more quick rapidly than the other spots on the golf course so so what I'm hearing is we all need to have like moisture like sens sensors installed in all of our Lawns CU cuz when you're doing it there's really no guess work like you know exactly hey this area is you know needs water and you can put you can apply exactly what you need which is pretty cool sounds like yeah that's pretty fun and then I was just going to say then you can like if you really want to kind of go down the nerd path here um you can really drill down into your system and you can put individual site codes on individual sprinkler heads so it's essentially like a specific uh percent adjustment for that individual head so if there's an area that's getting more wet you can set it to wet real wet or real real wet and we have those set in our our computer in different percentage increments and then the computer will just do all that calculations through the Hydraulics of the irrigation system and then we'll put that out when we water so it's very it's very different to whereas like in on my um my lawn I have S well there's five because there's six Zone but one of them is like the flower beds which I don't really use so I've got five zones and really you don't really you can't I can't I can't um um adjust how much water any particular head um puts out on the fly like what you're talking about like I can do it on a Zone level but it sounds like you guys can get a lot more granular down to the irrigation head level which is which is pretty nice yeah essentially almost every head becomes kind of like its own smart controller to a sense nice nice so Milan ad I'm not sure if you're on YouTube and you heard that um you know as far as what I do because I don't I don't have all the wi all the cool tools that that D was talking about um what with Bermuda when it begins to get too hot um and it's beginning to dry out like like most Turf grasses the color begins to go away and if you allow it to if you don't get water on it it can actually go into dormancy in the middle of the summer right so the the The Telltale sign is um the it begins to the color begins to to to go away that's probably the first thing that it's not as nice as not as vibrant um and then as it gets more and more extreme um you know the leaf begins to to um instead of saying open it begins to to to close up I mean so you have a lot of you have a lot of um indicators before things get out of hand and so I would say if you in my case I I run about an inch inch and a quarter of water um per per week per Zone um if I know I've got you know in your case say 100 degree temperatures coming in right um I'll I can I'll just I'll increase how long I run irrigation by let's say five minutes for each Zone and that tends to that tends to to help out so again not as precise as you know what um what you can do if you have like actual instrumentation but that's a way to prevent the um the is isue of the the turf even beginning to check out in addition to that I don't know you're in Australia so I'm sure you guys still have access to this um moisture managers are a great thing like I use a product called hydran really helps a lot as far as um the the turf handling you know higher temperatures and not not being as sensitive to that I don't know on the course do you guys I mean it's a much larger property so I'm not sure if it's even cost effective for you guys to do that but do you guys make use some moisture managers on any part of the course or not at all yep so we use a granular wedding agent on the greens um and then we have a sprayable uh wedding wedding agent that we spray on te's green surrounds rough Fairways so pretty much wall to wall when we do that application so and then we do that uh June July August hottest June July a the hottest times of the year okay yeah and and I was goingon to say just kind of bouncing back um a good way to test that just the old school just the screwdriver test trying to stick your screwdriver into the soil how hard is it can you get it in can you not get it in if not you probably need some water put some water on it it's a good test all right um this kind of Segways into John's question um we got Gavin Moore saying good evening what's going on uh Gavin good evening and um Jesse snow saying good evening and then um John Williams says I just ordered some centipede seed for my front yard that gets Sun what product should I use to put down to increase chance of germination for the centipede grass seed here in Savannah Georgia um yes I've never grown centipede grass John but the the the sequence still the same thing kind of applies right if you can do a soil test um and then use a good uh starter fertilizer with all three macros or your nitrogen your phosphorus your potassium to help the plant root in in particular um and then I I'm a big fan of using bio stimulons so like essential G carbonized PN one of those will help with um with germination carbonized PN which is really the foundation of carbon prog or um or essential G that's what it was designed for it was designed for helping to establish new turf grass or establish high value ornamentals so if you can that is what I would um go with and I already put links in the chat there as well so you know if you look at those that's exactly what you um you you should need yep I'd say yeah any like liquid kelp products is really really good too for seed or any new new saw new grass anything yeah and you know on that topic so guys we'll take a few minutes here I know we got a lot of questions we're going to start going through them but as far as the process of um some of you guys are are going to be doing renovations throughout this season right so you often ask yourself you know what should I do as far as um Renovations go like how do I prepare for it um should I do a soil test like what input should I apply to help get to the point where um I'm ready to install sod so Devin in in the last year um last fall I believe when you started started doing it um went through that so he you know went through got got a new house built um had sod installed um and I've got pictures of all of it to kind of show you guys but if you could want to talk through the process you know I guess starting from like um like inputs your soil tests and then I can just kind of go through the pictures you have here to help folks you know kind of get an idea of how you went about the process of getting your lawn um so from let me see if I get to so let me see if I get the early November so this is how wasl looked in November after it was after the sod was um was installed but like how but how do we get to to that point um so yeah uh basically what I did is so all the landscape all the hardscaping all that all went in first um obviously your irrigation everything was all installed um before we did any um yeah then we had compost a top top soil layer got put in um and then before any saw or anything went down um I did a bunch of leveling work um like days and days of leveling work um to get everything as smooth as uh possible um after that once I was kind of happy where everything was um a handful of amendments went down um so um am mon ammonium phosphate which is an 1152 went down and at this point I hadn't done a soil test um this is kind of just doing this forever I kind of had a guess of what I wanted to put down and what I thought new new sod would need um so 1152 mon ammonium phosphate went down um an 1806 um fertilizer went down um just for a little bit of nitrogen in the soil um Central G went down um what else did I put down I put an O 22s um for some potassium went down and then I sprayed um some liquid wedding agent on top of that soil before any sod went down and then I also applied some hydran on top of that granular too before any sod went down and then it it drove me insane at my old house um sprinkler coverage I couldn't stand it in my old house I'd have five or six spots in my backyard but every other every other day after after an irrigation cycle to run I'd have to go out there and run um hand water and run run the hose so that was really important to me I wanted the coverage to be really really good so probably two days before any sod came um it was just tinkering with uh irrigation coverage making sure everything was good especially before I put products down because I wanted to get everything good and watered in before any sod was even delivered um so leveling gr laser grading um getting everything really smooth um kind of compacting that um irrigation check and all that and then sod came in um kind of grew it in for a little bit so yeah here they are this is um laying the laying the sod um which was awesome to see after only having dirt for for quite a while in the back um grew that in so that was the first day um that the sod was down the first night and then this might actually shock a lot of you um well it was this was midt was when the sod um was put down and then usually mid November end of November everything shuts down we'll get our first Frost and everything's done so I really only had about a month and a half to two months to get this established going into winter um and I really wanted to get it started to train um to be mowed low so I actually was real mowing the saw the next day that it was laid so I was mowing it every day until it went went dormant pretty much just really getting it getting ready and then I was spraying um weekly uh Ura nitrogen a tenth to a 15th of a pound just to really push it um and then it was getting a bunch of Bio stimulants as well and then um I have a product that I get from one of our Distributors it's a plant growth stimulator um and that just has a really really high concentration of like gibberelic acids um cycin um just really good stuff that really pushes roots on new new seed and new grass um and that that it's such a concentrated rate um it's like you have to measure it out with a syringe millimeter syringe and it's like a one millimeter like one millimeter will treat my entire it's about 1,500 square feet will treat the whole whole yard so it's a really really um potent cocktail so that was going I was putting that down every other week um along with the Ura and micronutrients and just trying to kind of guess and then um once I was kind of happy with where stuff was and everything was kind of knitting in and uh filling in um I did a soil test and that was in octob mid mid yeah mid- October so this was my soil test so this was everything I was just guessing which I thought um the plant plants and the sod was going to need which I was pretty close so obviously the phosphorus was hard because I hit it pretty hard with the 11502 I wanted to make sure I had enough in the soil um and then that potassium too which was from that o 22s um which is also that sulfur um calcium was good um that was another amendment I put down was a thing of gypsum um going into that to kind of help that soil and the thing I was most happy about when I did that test that I was most curious about was my pH so I was really happy to see my pH kind of right there in that middle range which was good um and then I was a little high on sodium and I think that's um partially to do with our irrigation water we have here um I think it's just so it's like so uh clean we kind of get a little bit of salt buildup it doesn't flush as much as it as I'd like um so I actually have a uh black J black gypson from Anderson's that I'll be putting in this spring um a smaller rate in July Midsummer and then next next fall going into winter and I'm I'll do it I'll testing in October and see if I can kind of drop that sodium level down a little bit and then see if I can balance the phosphorus and potassium and then I'll get into a regular granular um program with the nitrogen and we'll see if that that nitrogen should come up a little bit Yeah well what's interesting is you can definitely see you said you went heavy on the the potassium the phosphorous pottassium inputs and it's definitely reflected here in the test so I can I keep that I keep that all logged on my phone so I can actually go back and look to see how much of that I actually put down so let's see here uh oh so I did do a 12 24 went down with that as well okay when I did that so also making potassium High yeah so that 11520 um it went down at 0.96 pounds per thousand really fine micro really it's a greens grade really really fine um so I got 0.11 pounds of nitrogen out of that and it was a half pound of fost so I wasn't I wasn't surprised when that when that came up like that nice yeah yeah it's very cool and the lawn the lawn grew in nicely cuz these pictures that you sent me it's like this is early November which is looking legit I mean that color looks looks really good um and then December you can see it's stting to check out a little bit but still looks still looks solid yep and you can kind of see too which I'll be excited when I top dress here in a few weeks you can kind of see some of those seams that didn't really have enough time knit knit together as much as much as I would have liked but yeah that that'll all get remedied here this this season yeah you got January uh looking good and then um mid-February so last month yep a little bit of green starting to come up yep nice now for your top dressing you mentioned top dressing when are you planning to top dress and um and what what are you what are you using um so I'm going to do it'll be the first week I always time it when we do our Green's ation at the course I always do it we aate during the week and then I do all my irration on the lawn that weekend so it'll be the first weekend of April okay um I'm I'm going to be air rating I'll probably do a couple directions on that um I'm going to dech verticut probably do I haven't really decided I might do one I'll probably do two directions on that um and then I'm going to do a light overseed on top of that get that all in and I will be pulling pulling the cores off as well obviously since I'll be real mowing um and then I have about just shy of like probably about 1,00 pounds of USGA sand and I'm mixing that by hand yeah here it is uh with carbonized PN so it's about I want it be more heavy on the sand um so it's about 9010 mix is what it comes out to so so 90% USGA sand 10% carbonized PN nice and um I've seen a lot of compost materials before um anyone it's it is pricey but you get exactly what you're paying for um if you're thinking about using that carbonized PN I would highly recommend getting it it's probably the cleanest compost um material I I've ever seen it's really really good material yeah it's good it's good stuff man I mean I i' I've top added the front lawn with just that a couple of times and it's to your point like it there's no there's no trash there's no debris I actually saw how how it was made um it's been two years ago at this point and like um what it starts as and then what it becomes is really impressive and if you see the number of like screening processes that Miramichi puts it through and then there's also some other processes that they do that they wouldn't I mean I I saw them but I couldn't film them and show you guys um but the the net result is um it's it's an excellent product it's an awesome some awesome compost and I'm glad you know someone that does it for a living um Can can see a lot of value out of it too so yeah so yeah if you're thinking about using it I would I would highly recommend recommend using it it's it's good stuff I was pretty shocked when I opened the first bag and pulled out a handful and I was like wow this is this is pretty clean stuff this is awesome yep yep yep it is it is good you know it's it's funny I I I talked spoke about like creating a um like a top dressing blend kind of like what um suad does does with it but just logistically of um the logistics of doing that is kind of tough right cuz shipping sand around is like Sand's really heavy a lot of weight yeah a lot of weight so it's easier to do what you did like order just the carbonized PN like either in bags or like a super sack and then make your make the blend yourself you know what I mean that's good and that's kind of fun too because then like for my it's just kind of you can do whatever you need to do for what you're trying to achieve gives you a little more flexibility which is is kind of fun too nice nice awesome stuff cool so first week of a ail top dressing time nice we like it got got to keep this posted y it will do all right uh so let me get here I got a bunch of questions and folks probably like man uh let me me let me let me speed up here because we are behind hook and pull says hope we're on everything is well I am thanks so much um and he says Hey Ron let's raffle a bag of carbonized PN and I'll throw in some swag uh let me know uh yeah so um so we have someone um from Miramichi on and they will um what they're saying is that you know just you know de's talking about carbonized PN and singing all of its Praises once to give away a um give away a bag of it um I'm trying to think of how we um how we we would do that um H I'll tell you what so don't obviously leave this week's live stream what what we can do is again this is the I'm I am literally tempting the demo Gods by doing this CU I didn't prepare for this but we're going to try it so what you guys can do is you're going to have to comment on last week's live stream because the software that I use has to look at the stream like the stream is over like it has to be finished before you can comment on it like you can't comment on this one that's going on right now so I'll give you guys the link to last week's one and if you guys want to go in there and just um make a comment saying you know whatever I mean if you comment on it you're you're you're you're in the actually it's not let's make it fair you have to comment um um I want carbonized PN so that's that's what that's how we will separate the people that just have commented from last week to the people that are live tonight that have the opportunity to win what are we doing a bag of carbon ipn and some swag all right so here's the link um and again I am going to do my best here hopefully I don't um everything works the way it's supposed to so go go to this this video from last week and comment comment here um and your comment needs to be I want uh carbonize PN do not mult don't comment like multiple times it's not going to make a difference the software only look looks for one time so if you're trying to spam it it's not going to work um but that's what you guys need to do go to don't leave this live stream because you got to be present to win but go there comment I want carbonized PN and I will try and figure this out how to make this happen on the on the show tonight thanks guys and um yeah they're saying 40 pounds treats 1 th000 square feet so there you go it's as far as top dressing you got something cool to play with all right next up we have will cvy will cvy is in the house he says did my tenacity app with the tjet um the foler tip I think uh no sorry the the floodjet tip for preemergent today I started pre- germinating GCI cools blue seed on Monday I am putting down this weekend how does Tenacity play with pre- germinating so you done any of that um uh Deon as far as using because I know a lot of folks will use tenacity to help um clean up weed in awn help prevent a lot of we from coming in and then use it as part of a seating project um um I I've actually never used it um I if you were doing a full renovation I would absolutely use it just because more soil and stuff would be available for weeds to fill in uh but tenacity plays really good with uh germinating seed um there's no problem with it um actually when I was in New York we would have a company would come in in Hydro seed areas on the course and uh tenacity was actually mixed in with that Hydro seed mix um so after a couple days you would see White dead weeds coming up but then you'd see fresh uh baby Ry grass coming up next to it so um yeah no problem no problem using tenacity with uh with seed um just make sure you're reading the label and not not over applying or anything like that but sounds like you you probably do if you got the right right uh nozzle on your sprayer so you should be good to go sounds good sounds good yeah and I will um yeah the ger from I'll let you know after the show like who um ends up winning so all right cool um oh I need to show you guys so um so Deon did talk about his he's going to be real Mowing and looks like you got two mowers you got Emanuel push mower which you know any any person that that's worth their salt at some point is going to own a manual push reel mower and if I can find it here we go so this is look you got a a Craftsman there doing its thing yep so yeah that's all I haven't even haven't used the big the big guy yet on the yard so once in I was using that every day when I was getting home from work um Mowing and then yep uh that's the greens master I got um when we got rid of some equipment at work so I took that home with me um got it all serviced up by one of our mechanics and um 14 blade reel groomer on it we used to use that you used to mow mow te's at the course so now it's going to going to mow the yard at three4 of an inch so I'm really excited uh probably late April early May it'll be its its first run on the grass once once there's no sand yeah it's it's a nice you you got the groomer the the groomer on that and everything that's that's clean man so what blade is that 11 or what what blade uh 14 14 blade oh you're messing around oh yeah used to be one used to be one of our team owers okay cool very cool okay guys so I have the software queued up looks like it is g to work I think so yeah we'll let this run for a little while and then later on in the show we will um we'll draw a a winner all right cool all right so um great question will about um tenacity and um and preting grassed and how it all plays nice together all right next up is uh Kevin BGA he says uh Ron always good to see you can I apply lime and pre-emergent at the same time in New York so when you say at the same time you mean on the on the same day yes the same time that's typically kind of kind of tough to do so I I'd say this um if you're you need to raise your soul pH apply app a lime that is appropriate based on what your soul test results say if you need to also raise magnesium levels as well apply a damic lime if you don't need to raise magnesium just do a calcitic lime and I would do that first and then I would apply your pre-emergent afterwards and water it in and you know you can go off and enjoy life so the reason behind that is if you think about it you apply the pre-emergent first the the grass is wet kind of tacky and then you going to put lime down like you really want the lime to be in the soil kind of like pre-emergency if you want to get it in the soil for it to work so applying it to a wet lawn while if once you water it it's still going to end up in the soil I'm I'm a fan of applying the dry stuff first and then um you know any liquids afterwards and also if you're doing granular pre-emergent um I'm fan of doing the sides last so any kind of side fungicide insecticide herbicide if you're doing that do that last because I don't want you to go out and put that down and then you're walking through the lawn putting down lime as well too you know just minimize your exposure to the stuff y exactly couldn't have said better nice so see there you go guys I got I got one right so I feel I feel good all right K hopefully that helps sir and if you again if you need anything else let me know um don't uh you know go out and get your line M down and again as far you didn't ask us but as far as rate I find um 20 to 40 pounds per thousand somewhere about somewhere in that range for residential Lawns um works pretty works pretty well all right speeding up um next up we have already got that um he says I'm about to put down send uh centipede seed and but I want but I see there's some wheat Wheats in the ground can I put down Celsius to kill the weeds or should I just throw the seed down and worry about it later yeah so you can so Celsius is not going to affect um grassy that hasn't germinated so if you wanted to go out and spray any kind of weed that are in your lawn and then apply Celsius on the same day it's not or sorry then put your plant your grass seed the same day it's not going to have a negative a negative impact Celsius um a poster herbicide it needs like Leaf to be PR for it to actually work so by the time you put the grass seed down water it it begins germinating you know you're going to be fine so to answer your question if you want to control the weeds prior to um seeding the lawn you can absolutely do that um if you honestly it's probably what I would do because while Celsius as far as herbicides go warm season and grass is a nice one is relatively um kind as kind as herbicide can be um you still really don't want to spray new turf grass with herbicide if you can avoid it you know what I mean it's just it's it's still a stressor so I would opt to clean up the Weeds now versus you know doing it on grass that's a couple weeks old six weeks old you know what I mean so good stuff and that's a good point so when you guys do um I mean you probably doing new turf grass on the um uh on the golf course but let's say your your home Laine not that you have any weeds we know you're not going to have any weeds in your lawn but how long would you wait before you did any kind of post-emergent herbicides um on on on year lawn if you're just trying to be safe um I probably give it at least a a season um at least a half a season at the most just make sure everything's rooted in and like growing good and healthy before you stress anything out um my My Philosophy is always been that you should have good agronomic practices and not have to do any herbicides like I don't I've never done we do it at the course just because there's so much area um but like in my old house and in this house I've never done pre-emergent um I have a little one gallon mix up a 24d that here and there I'll have to go out and and spot spray some dandelion but nothing crazy I if if you don't have to broadcast or blanket spray herbicides it's just better not not to nice yeah so you're doing your your integrated Pest Management you're saying you minimize minimize chemicals as much as possible I like it yeah cool stuff all right next up is no name he says Hey Ron and fellow lawn Enthusiast my yard is about 10% green I mean that means 90% dormant you know we'll we'll focus on the positive 10% green it is it says sending out my soul test for the spring glad to have you Devon let's get those likes up yeah guys so we have 120 something people in the live stream only 57 likes surely we can do better than that so if you guys are enjoying the content please feel free to hit that like button costs absolutely nothing it's a free way to support the channel and uh if you guys wouldn't mind please do that here's the thing guys we've already announced about how to win the bag of carbonized PN so you know you guys don't have to worry about by doing that you can get more more competition in so hit the like button it's the least you can do all right next we have um Team Clark track and field says hello all I just did a a my first just did the first mom Mo of the season first Mo of the season and I applied carbon Pro G will applying pre-emergent or will apply pre-emergent Early in the Morning located in Northern Virginia I like it so you got your bio simula down and you're going to prevent weeds I dig it I dig it I like it good sounds like a good plan um so this is a question from Ved na'vi I guess related to cool SE and grass he says my question is about Fireball and hatrick Ry grass seed are they good in the shade my other question is about scarifying and coration can I do both together and which one can I do first um sure so off the top of my head um I'd have to look up Fireball and hatrick Rass seed um you can look them up up um and it'll it'll tell you Sun tolerant shade tolerant whichever and pick whichever one from there um and then as far as scarifying and coration absolutely you can do that together um we do it at the golf course I'm going to be doing it here on my yard in April I'm going to be air rating two different directions and probably scarifying verticutting whatever you want to call it two different directions so they go hand inand um you can c yeah you can certainly do both of them together um especially if you're going to be doing seating um it's good to have the holes from the Iration um and then it's also good to have some slits and some channels to get that seed down down and in for good germination nice nice you know what what is it with you K and guys you guys have like really cool Nam for grass seed Fireball hatrick we like it's like we get like Arden 15 Thea 31 we don't get any you guys you guys are grass seed like you guys get really cool names really really creative on the on the grass seed names for sure all right um Justin Judkins he says hey he Ron I've been finding some June bug carcasses in my yard last couple of days should I be concerned uh no I really wouldn't be too worried about it um you know we're still early as far as doing an insecticide like I I've done a celen um like late March early April that works that works well for me um I'm not sure where you are in the country Justin but I mean if you're in the southeast United States late March early April time frame is a good time to get your your insecticide out to help um to help keep um grubs another other laon damaging insects at um at Bay but it's it's really based on where you are in the country like timing so for example for me I'm going to be doing it like early next month uh in your case um de if you guys were doing insecticide I imagine a is is late March early April too probably too early or um yeah we we really don't luckily where we live we really don't have too many problems with h bugs or or grubs or anything we get um it's it's usually in July so it's it's really late um we get a thing called it's the black turf grass athenus Beetle we'll get those on the greens and we'll do a granular insecticide on a Clos Monday and water that in um that's that's the only insecticide uh we ever we ever use we've we've had it on occasion one time in the almost 10 years I've been there we we had grubs in the fairways and then I believe we just sprayed that with a b bifenthrin and we've used lamb toai before in the past nice sounds good so there you go Justin uh junk up next he has a question he says Devon so I'm about 6 hours north of you and the weather has been unseasonably warm if I put down preemergent diiia pair and it freezes is that a problem um yes and no um I would just wait until we kind of really more consistent um soil temps and Air temps before before you put anything down um just to play it safe I mean you could get away with it but it it would be a real bummer if uh for whatever reason and something happened and mother nature with whatever affected that barrier and you kind of wasted your product and your time um so I would just wait until we get good consistent uh soil temps 55 is um and then good consistent Air temps before doing anything nice all right uh next up we got Short Grass living He says Hey Ron and Devon with several cool and grass seeds types coming out claiming to be heat tolerant kind of sounds like shade tolerant Bermuda um do you know if there have been any able to survive summers in areas like Northeast Texas I I don't I don't know the answer to this um I know I had tell you what this this much a short grass living I had Ry grass um in a planter on my back porch and I would water it and I I thought I babied it and as soon as like June hit it got burnt to a crisp it it was not going to live in the temperatures we get here in Georgia and I imagine Central Texas is going to be as hot or or hotter so I I don't know I don't know what do you I'm not sure Devon do you guys only get like in the 90s have you heard about how well like the heat tolerant coas and grasses um no I haven't I haven't done uh done much looking into that um I'm sure there could be some um I'm just not really aware of it but I'm sure wherever that area is you probably could find a local extension office and they probably have some research or some uh scholar AR articles about about a new grass seed that they're working on in trials sure yeah I can tell you Short Grass living the only cool using grass around here that that does all right during the summer months and again when I say all right means you have to put like a you know an ungodly amount of water on it to keep it alive is Fescue like you don't see Ry grass Lawns around here you don't seey Blue Grass laws around here you do see Fescue like in the neighborhood that I live a lot of the common areas um that have shade that are shaded have fescue um and some some some buildings some government buildings also have fescue Lawns so that as far as a cool season uh turf grass type that that that tolerates heat better um that's something I would look into but as far as the other ones I don't I don't know I've never I've never tried any of them tell you what if you let me know the names of a cult of art you're looking at I'll plant some I'll get like a not on my lawn obviously I'll get like a like a pot or something to put it in and I'll plant it and we can test it if you guys want uh but yeah give me give me some names my email you know you should know it it's Ron golf course.com let me know which one you're looking at and I'll see if I can get some and we can we can try it out and monitor it this year because it gets plenty hot here in Georgia that will kill most rye and Bluegrass um cultivars so nice that'd be kind of fun I'd be curious to see that yeah yeah and and here's the thing I don't to make sure it's fair I may have to I may have to get a bigger planter because the one that I had was like a I know like 18 inch by 6 in and when it gets hot like the outside that gets pretty hot so it that's probably the so temperature are probably bit warmer than what's representative of what the long would be so I may have to get a bigger one to make it you know make it more fair a better test so yeah let me know let me know short go living and I'll I'll get some we'll we'll try it all right next up we have Team Clark track and field says in Northern Virginia with t type T Fescue what is the earliest I can apply fertilizer in the spring I usually apply three to four pounds of n per year with heavy applications in the fall thanks uh nice um so my first app will be when I aate and do all that um so when Once stuff starts growing growing um your soil's not frozen you can go ahead and put that down um just basically once the grass is going and you know it's going to uptake that that nutrients um but yeah mostly just just as long as your your soil is not frozen you can you can get it down yeah so um I don't have turf Ty P Fescue and I'm not in Virginia but like this week um with my lawn it's beginning to Green up the like the green fuzz is well and alive on the on the front lawn the back Line's coming in nicely so I did the 12 24 on myON this past week so um so yeah as long there's no there's no freezing now granted I did that so now I'm going to cause like freezing weather to come come happen but um there's nothing in the forecast so the lawn should be uh should be just fine so hope that hope that helps thanks for that Devon um okay let's speed up here we got uh um Zack daily Focus ST says um Hey Ron I sent when you get around to it I send an update email on the Baron brg rpr survive 100 plus degree temps and with minus 15 temps yeah so send it to me and um yeah so I got the email I'll take a look at it I'll take a look at it um Zach um and um and I'll I'll give it a shot I mean if it's um yeah I'll get some and try it out all right next up we have Aaron Pate it's a good question he says Ron can you talk about what you think the pros and cons are of an organic slow release like Morganite versus a quick release synthetic fertilizer uh yeah so there's some people that that don't want synthetic products on their lawn they just don't want on the property and they prefer a more organic type approach um and that's where products like the triple 4 that we carry from Miramichi green or like Morganite um Can can come in um you know the in my opinion the benefits of um of a lot of synthetics um they you know they they the synthetic Blends have a lot going for them over just purely Organics so good example right you look at like the the Lebanon fertilizers that we carry yes while there's a synthetic component to it like it's not just one type of nitrogen there's like there's like there's like three or three or four different types of nitrogen that are in that product in addition to a kelp product in addition to humic acid so while you look at it and you say it's a synthetic fertilizer it's really like a synthetic fertilizer and biostimulant in the same product um so for you know unless you're someone that just really wants just to stick with an an organic um approach to your granular fertilizer there's a lot to be said for using a um a synthetic you know uh using a a good high quality Blended synthetic one I tested this last year so in the back lawn I used the um the fertilizers from Lebanon like I used hemic Max and on the front lawn I used um just the triple four the the triple four fertilizer from Miramichi the thing that I saw is the at least for the first application like the 1220 before or humic Max um you know 5 days later it lights off you're going to see a nice color response the turf is like live loving life right the triple 4 it took a longer time to ramp up but then once it's in once it's that Pro like the machine is started where the microbes are like breaking it down and making it available to the plant and as long as you keep feeding it it's there's not a ton of difference once you get it going so synthetic is a lot faster um I think you can get more creative with a lot of the Blends um and as far as coverage goes you get more coverage for your money with synthetics versus Organics so it just really depends on on you really depends if you had like a vegetable garden I would obviously use Organics if you are only one organic approach to your lawn care program I would use Organics and Miramichi allows you to do that that you can use like the organic bio stimulant you can use the fertilizer you can use the liquid products if you want to go Strictly Organic right like limited how much synthetic products you use like the Miramichi section on the golf course lawn stor has got you covered um but I think personally there's a there's a benefit to some of the some of the the better um synthetic fertilizer Blends like the ones that that Lebanon carries what about you guys do you guys as far as fertilizers go um Devon is it synthetic organic what do you how do you guys balance um our our big bulk fertilizer is a is an organic um fertilizer um but it takes a lot to achieve what you want it's I believe it's like a 162 or something like that um off the top of my head um so it's it's a higher end end rate but a lot of the organic stuff that's available to homeowners it's a lower end rate so it takes more more a product to achieve whatever end amount you're going for versus versus synthetic fertilizer um but yeah then on the greens it's all soluble and uh synthetic but our big our big bulk one is um organic and that's mostly just because we're we can't amend those areas that often so we use that organic as kind of an amendment too because they have other other properties and characteristics that synthetic doesn't have good point that's right so good good example as well too as far as like higher amounts of humate um a microbial package like a lot of that you find you get a lot of that in your synthetics or in your Organics where is synthetics unless you get like humic Max or the complete or the stress like most like very few synthetic fertilizers um will also incorporate humic acid and kelp as part of the blend you know what I mean so yeah so hope that helps Aaron uh both can work you're going to spend more going the or Strictly Organic route as far as coverage goes and I again I personally think that if it if it were me um I'm I'm a big fan of the the Lebanon fertilizers they're they're really good stuff that's why that's why I use them that's why I carry them um think they're great stuff so all right uh next up we have Nick hilmo he says Hey Ron I just got my soul test pH is good but the nutrients are little across the board here's the thing Nick while that may be discouraging to you if I had to pick one thing to be in the Zone on a so test it would be the pH because that's the hardest thing to quickly change you know um all the other stuff you can you can a couple of months you can make a big adjustment a good example um so Devon when you did the inputs preparing for your s install like how much time was between the time you did all those inputs and you took the so test sample um let's see we probably had about a month and a half I'd say okay so a month and a half now granted we don't know where the soil was before but it shows like a month and a half in like this are where the levels look like right you can see what the phosphorus and the potassium did so it doesn't take long to correct that pH can be months months some cases years depending on where the so where it wants to buffer wants to be so you have the one thing that's really good and that was one reason I really wanted to do that test because I had no idea what my pH was in this area so that I was really curious about that because obviously high or low that's one of the things that would need to be adjusted like immediately sure yep Y and that's that's why um you know as far as doing a soul test in the fall why I'm such a huge fan of it because pH can take such a long time to I say correct or to adjust that knowing that data in the fall especially when the turf's starting to slow down and you can do multiple inputs if you need to um it's a great time to do it because like literally people don't realize how how important um like having the pH in that that goldilock zone in the six to seven range is because it makes like you got you spend a bunch of money on fertilizer and some of the nutrients like you think about not available not available yeah as soon as you get more especially more alkaline like your micronutrients like iron like unless you're going to start spraying them in liquid form like you put it the soil and granular they're just not available for uptake you know so it's really important to get that right um so yeah glad so Nick I'm sure I'm sorry that your pH is or that your Macros are low but that is the that's I would really wouldn't worry about it because your your pH your power hydrogen is in good shape and that's what we um that's the thing that's harder to fix all right so next up we have Veronica slow not Veronica fast but Veronica slow she says I did a fescue overseed in Georgia it's two weeks now and I don't see any Sprouts the existing grass is about ready to be cut if it needs to be cut how low do I go um it's good question so I was say I'm guessing um if two weeks uh I guess you can get Fescue can germinate in two weeks um my guess is it's probably not getting enough water your seed's probably not um getting wet enough or you don't have a good enough seed to soil contact UM and then I guess I probably wouldn't mow fescue what is four five inches what that likes is probably kind of the ballpark I would go to Mo Mo Fescue yeah so Veronica so the thing that you said here is you did an overseed versus and as part of that overseed process did you just throw it down on an existing lawn or did you do any kind of like dethatching vertic cutting Turf something to kind of thin it out to improve that seed to soil contact if you didn't do that it's you know pretty much the Fescue is going to be like an Invader that the existing grass is competing with so that's all those things could could be why you're seeing the slower germination plus it's only been two weeks you know there's that too all right so hopefully that helps um next up is um this a good one he says um Hey Ron is there a standard value for pounds of nutrient per thousand square feet um increase in parts from million of that nutrient I just got my soul test back and my nutrients are low across the board um I'll de I'll let you CH on this as well too but I'm I'm going to say um not not as a general rule Nick because it it depends right so if you um a perfect example let's say you are using like um like an organic fertilizer right like a like this is a good example to be like this work um like the amount of pounds of that that you're going to have to apply versus a synthetic it's going to be it's going to be different um as far as also like if we if we take it to just the nitrogen percentage the kind of nitrogen also matters too you know what I mean like you have some nitrogen that's that's slow released that will tend to stick around in the soil a bit longer if you have a product that has more of like a Ura product like or nitrogen that's going to that's not going to be around as long so in my mind no it's there's not like a cut and dry easy way of saying this amount of of um and or this amount of product is going to create this much of um of an improvement you know what I mean so I don't know what what are your thoughts Devon um no I wouldn't say there's like a real set amount I think I would probably just start with a good anywhere from like a quarter to a half pound of just a really well balanced fertilizer and then just go with that for the season and then test again and see where that has brought you would be my Approach but yeah you make a really good point about the different types of nitrogen um for a month and a half I was spraying a tenth to a 15th of a pound of nitrogen Ura 46 every week and then you look at my soil test and it's it says there's no nitrogen there so it's really important what kind of nitrogen you're using or what you need for your application yeah yeah so so yeah it's a good point um uh Devon so Nick yeah hopefully that helps just you know get a get a good balanced fertilizer like you know our 14714 is a good option apply that regularly and test you know test again and see and see what um what effect it makes that's why you know I'm a fan of doing at least two s tests a year one in the spring to kind of determine your program and then one in the fall to to see how well it's worked in your case if you're really worried about it you could do one mid-season but you really want to give it a good weeks maybe even a little bit longer if you can between the last granular input and when you pull cores so that you're not skewing the numbers uh but um but yeah it's really one of those things yeah go ahead Deon sorry no yeah I was just gonna say yeah just agreeing with what you're saying yeah so I mean as far as as far as the there's there's too many variables to be able to say this amount of n is going to is going to um create this much movement as far as um parts per million across all soil types there's a lot of VAR a lot of variables that that that can that can make a difference difference there so hope that helps her um I'll link a fertilizer for you in the chat if you if you're looking for one and if you need anything else let me know all right Tom V is up next he says he says hey Devon I think it's Devin but you guys come Devon I think it's Devon is I in is hey Devon love it when you join what are your plans for getting your cool season lawn ready for the year also what is your fertilizer plan do you use any carbon supplements um yeah so this actually might be Rachel's Uncle to be honest with you cuz at our wedding he was saying that he's a fan of your show actually watches but didn't know that I had been on before so this actually might might be him if if I'm guessing right um but what are my plans for my cool season lawn ready for this year um so kind of set the groundwork up last fall um so we're kind of good to go there um got some air rating dethatching a little bit of interseeding that I'm going to do um and then we'll swing in probably the beginning beginning of May through the rest of the season we'll get on to the uh pgr program for it uh my liquid fertilizer program micronutrient liquid program um I spray every Friday um not the same things it's a like an alternating spray program so one week it's whatever batch and then the next week it's the other batch um and then a granular app about a half a pound to end um the beginning of each month um and then mid season there'll be some soil amendments that'll go in um yeah and then top dressing too here coming up before too long as well to get everything smoothed out so we should be good and then hopefully by May we'll drop it down and be mowing at three4 of an inch and mind you know this Devon that they are all taking notes they can steal your program and you know try and so make sure you hold something back hold a little something back for yeah cool uh so hope that helps Tom um so you know one thing you mentioned was Primo that's a good point because you know I always tell people there there's life before PR Max before growth regulator and life afterwards for someone that's brand new to growth regulator um like as far as um you know introducing it to their program or or how You' begin wrapping it up like how do you guys go about it on the course of what would be like some tips or recommendations you would give for getting a good result with growth regulator um so on the greens it's a handful of uh pgrs that go into that and they're all different rates depending on temperature uh how fast stuff's growing so that's all kind of just as need be um and then uh Fairways and rough and everything else wall to- wall um gets a full full Premo app because it's once we only can spray that stuff once once a month so we need to do a rate that'll carry us one month for clippings um but then as far as when I do it at my house um since it's going to be pretty young grass and then I'm going to have seed seedlings coming up hopefully as well I'll probably start that off um I'll probably go I usually do split applications um I can't think of what the rate for Primo is off the top of my head let me pull it up here cool in Grass I think it's like depend I don't know it's like Point um so I'm going to be doing a split rate so it'll be 0.125 ounces per thousand so 3.7 millimeters is how I measure that out um and then that first that first month I'll probably do half of that half just to kind of get the grass used to it because it's never never experienced it before um and then see how it does that first app and then if if I don't get any bronzing or any like weird reactions to it then I'll go up to that regular split half rate and then the rest of the summer it'll just be that half rate going going probably till September September okay September sometime in there maybe a little bit into October depending on how much it's grown and what the weather's like nice yeah so so it's interesting so you you know because it never fails summertime rolls around and there's going to there's going to happen I was I'm going to get a question with someone says hey it's the first time using primo and I went like you know full rate and I did the math wrong and it's like you know they went too heavy so in your case you're a fan of slowly introducing it to the plant and then ramping up over time is is what it sounds like yep yep exactly and then once uh next season um then it'll just be after it's used to it for a full growing season that first app will just be that initial full half rate and then we'll just carry it there but just to get it used to the beginning of kind of it's going what the heck is is happening here it's happening to me right like train Wheels I got you yeah exactly it's just like when you mow it when you drop your drop your hi to cut down you just you got to teach the plant what you want it to do nice nice see plants have feelings too all right uh Matt the mailman says say what is a good indicator I can actually start lawn work like thatching I don't want to start too early and our winter has been mild and without snow it's a good point so when when would you do your your first e that fitting out at my old house I've done it as early as early March mid March um just just as long as the soil's not frozen still um if you can get a screwdriver into the soil profile good four or five inches and you're probably probably good to go but I wouldn't go out if your yard's fully Frozen I wouldn't wouldn't rip a decher across the top of it and probably wouldn't like that too much right yeah so I guess Common Sense make sure it's thought out and then go and it really the thing is Matt you can always you can always make multiple passes like I'm I'm a fan when it comes to any of those kind of cultivation practices verticutting Turf raking you know if you need to dethatching like go light go easy there's no reason to you know to drop it down and try and carve carve huge channels in the in the turf you can always you can just you know slowly do it and and um and see how it how it responds so all right um next up we got Shawn Murphy he says happy Friday Ron and Devon cutting zoa at 6 what height do you Rec recommend I scalp at next weekend I'm in Tampa Florida so so Sean I'm a fan of going a quarter in your case I was say half in but not not a half inch in your case so a quarter of an inch below where you intain to intend to maintain the lawn so if you're at 6 UH 60 so they say 58 thereabouts um you know if you want to scalp it at you know 04 point you know. 35 that's about as low as I'd go um you're not going to you're going to minimize how much stress you're going to be given the turf if you do that um you're going to minimize the chances of you getting your reel into the dirt which is going to mean you know sending it out for a sharp and and grind and I just I don't really think it's it's strictly necessary to go that low to go that aggressive you know what I mean so I would say pick a quarter inch or so below where you intend to maintain it um do your scalp and then let the grass grow back in and and enjoy uh yeah um and this is all the scalp talk is Probably sounds like crazy T crazy talk to to to you cool and guys right because you guys don't do any kind of scalping imagine cool season turf grass on the no no no scouting yeah so yeah there you go Sean so hope that helps um and you know here's the thing I mean just just just a thought you might want to consider like0 75 I'm just saying like i' I've heard I've done some testing and that's that's a nice high to cut as far as um you know getting a lot of lot of the benefits without without creating a lot more work for yourself again you got zoa so zoa point6 is probably going to be okay it doesn't grow that fast all right long Guido says when should I apply LL 7 07 in Dallas um I don't know whenever I mean whenever the the lawn is woken up you're starting to see green come through it's the question is like insert any fertilizer whenever the lawn is Greening up um and you want to start start um start feeding it uh you you can so if you got green coming through on your lawn then you can start introducing um introducing fertilizer I mean that's not a whole lot of nitrogen or potassium so I mean I really wouldn't be too concerned about it uh let's see here so this is a good one we throw this one to you Deon he says how do you guys feel about weed and feed products at this time of year and what could I do that is a better option than those big box store weed and feed products uh yeah that's a good question I myself I've never used a weed and feed um so I don't really have much experience uh with the products um I know some a lot of people probably have uh with them depending on what what they got going on in their yards um some other options you could do other than the Big Box store Weeden feeds I guess I guess if you if you're looking if you still want to put like a pre-emergent down or something like that you could always go like a just a regular product that doesn't have any fertilizer in it um it's kind of that's kind of a tough question or if you want to do like a spray um if if you don't want to do those kind of weed and feed products or um don't use it at all and just kind of do an IPM strategy on your yard yeah yeah John so I mean as far as Weeden feed like um I can think about it like for example we carry what you could consider a Weeden feed product that is like a 007 right so it's got some potassium in it but that's about it um I am a fan of like an alicart approach like for my pre-emergent I want it to just be for the most part just to be pre-emergent and if I want to add anything else to it I'll I'll do that um a lot of the Weeden feed products that you'll see at the big box stores they'll have like higher amounts of nitrogen higher like you know you're talking like in in excess of 10% nitrogen in ex excess of of um you know in some cases 15% um uh potassium and I think for um a way to wake the lawn up I mean if you if you're do it once it'd be I guess it could be fine but as far as like a way of regularly um feeding the lawn I wouldn't do that like most people use Weed and Feed products incorrectly like if you look at the ingredient in most of them the the feed part or the weed part is a pre-emergent and there's no reason to apply that stuff on your lawn like you're literally broadcasting like herbicide across your lawn every time you fertilize it which I'm just I'm just not a fan of doing so if you can to use one the beginning of the Season okay but then after that I would I would transition to just a a standard regular fertilizer with no herbicide in it um yeah yeah all right so this is one g to be for you um I think Devon because I don't know um who these people are I probably should say hey guys curious who your favorite turf grass researchers are out there Dr Tony kosy um out by Devon or Dr Travis shadu have some great papers but I'm hungry for more learning thanks guys that's actually funny so kosy was actually one of my professors at CSU so I had him um a lot and yeah he's a really good guy um does a lot of extension work he's still up there I believe um probably should shoot him an email and see if he's got any got any students who want an intern for us this summer um but yeah I had Cy um Richard beard um out in California is really good um I'm blanking on his first name but his last name is Nikolai he's a turf grass professor in Michigan he Michigan State he's really really good um and those are probably my my big ones if I do any read any research it's usually their stuff cool so there you go there you go Foodies a Turf hopefully that that helps out all right um Nick Lear um he says Pacific Northwest here I have 100% perennial Ry and I have thin areas where it is shaded should I just keep overseeding Every Spring and fall what say you um I guess I would take a look at what's causing the shade um if it's a tree that you can kind of thin up um thin the canopy out to get a little more sunlight down you can certainly do that um and if that's not an option then your best route is to um add seed in each year as you go in if you get thinning issues yeah yeah I mean because the thing is Nick I mean even though I think as far as like shade tolerance uh cool seas and grasses like fesc are among the best I mean if you like even though sh even though cool seas and grasses often times are considered to be more shade tolerant than warm season tur grass as Devon's pointing out they still need sunlight they still do better with direct sunlight so if it were me I wouldn't keep throwing grass seed at the problem every single year like you know if you can like he said we can raise the canopy do something to get more sunlight on the um on the area I think is you're going to be better off by by doing that so hope that helps kind of tough to answer without a picture but um but yeah more sunlight is a good thing for grass it does better with sunlight so y hope that um hope that helps you all right Justin jkin says when do you like to put out your first fertilizer app mine is already out Justin um I think Deon already covered this but I mean you can re it again like youd actually to do yours like when when you when are you g to do your first fertilizer app being in Colorado Springs uh if if weather allows it it'll be the first weekend of April when I do do a bunch of workout on the yard that'll be my first app okay so there you go um next up we have and guys I haven't forgot about the carbonized PN we're going to be doing that um let me see how many people we have that have um that have registered or that have added last time I checked there were 28 comments and now there [Music] are um filter out duplicates because I know how you guys are there's 42 comments your chances are actually pretty decent because some of these are people that were there before they may not you know ask the question as far as um you know giveing my carbon ipn so you may have a pretty good chance chance of winning all right Dem marculus Thompson is up next he says greetings Ron happy Friday started my spoon feeding this past weekend along with rain this week the Greenup is real nice I like it I like it I am a fan of spoon feeding it's more it's more air quotes work but man grass looks so good good results yeah it does yeah good results I do I do like it all right mun mahid is up next he says Hey Ron I the groved roller on the front of my true cut 20in doesn't stripe well does adding a rare roller help too I've seen that setup recommended on Facebook Toro also has a striping kit online um yeah so it's a good point um munir so I have a true cut it does not stripe like my greens master or any more with a rear drum Stripes because really with a green with a Toro sorry with the the true cut you've got two Drive wheels that are I don't know they're probably 6 Ines wide five six inches wide well you have a 20 inch it's even even narrower um and then you have the the front roller um if you can get a mower that has a rear drum on the back and a front roller the you're just you're just you're rolling over the grass twice and a lot of times the weight even though it's not really supposed to be it tends to be biased a little bit more towards that front that big drum in the back so as far as you putting more weight on the turf and getting really setting those stripes you're going to get better stripe action from a um a m that's powered by a a drum um greens mower you know insert mower type than a mower that has uh Drive Wheels um so yeah that would be my thing I don't know if there's a way to do that you said adding a rear roller I don't I don't know that it might help some but man you can't like I'll tell you the best striping Mor that I have is my allet c27 and the reason why it Stripes better than my greens Master is because it just weighs a lot more it's like a 300 pound Mower and it just produces amazing Stripes um but my greens Master is still the best cutting mower that I have 11 blade is nothing to play with man it's it's I mean Toro I tell you what if you ever you know what's funny you not to go off on a tangent if you want to see if you ever like re read anything like um like about the space program right like how like they built like the the sa five rocket and all the intricacies and everything that went into doing that try reading a paper by Toro on like on their different bed knife types and how they you know between the black B the black bed bar or the red one and you know how in Grunt and angles I mean these people they're serious about the turf grass man it's a it's a different level of insanity so yep yeah good stuff so yeah in other words if it were me if you really want an amazing cut and better Stripes i again a greens mower is really tough to beat the new Revolution is a nice mower too it's a good option too cool yeah yeah it's it's great that's a great that that mower as far as a mower that approaches what my greens Master does it's um it's pretty close it's a it's got a lot of good a lot of good stuff going for it okay um next up let's see if I have any other any other points um cool oh this is a good one so so Devon there's often a contingent of folks that that think that they want to have a golf green at home um like they want to have a True Green and by Green I don't mean like a a set of grass that's mow at like half an inch like grass turf grass that's mowed truly at Green's Heights what are they signing up for if they decide to to truly do that and maintain it like what kind of work goes into your greens versus like say your Fairways and roughs and tea boxes um yeah just be prepared you're it um every day it's like one of those things where it just can't really go multiple days without being mowed um so it needs to be mowed every day um once you start getting kind into that shorter grass the amount of water it needs is different um fungicide program is different uh fertilization program is different um not that I'm saying it's not possible for a homeowner to do um there's a couple um one of the one guys that I've seen who's done it really good on YouTube uh Jimmy Lewis he has probably one of the best golf greens I've seen in his backyard um and I think the lawn whisper is going to do one so I'm curious to see how his turns out and then Ryan Norris planning on doing ones so I'm curious to see how those work out so it is possible to do it's just and I'm sure if you watch their stuff they'll tell you how much work goes into it um you got to be out on it every day you gotta mow it every day um it's it's just everything's Amplified 100% versus just a regular regular yard yeah yeah it's a lot more work so just don't know what you're know what you're signing up for all right so we have um a a Tom bacquet in he says um I live in North Carolina and and put down spring pre-emergent two weeks ago when can I begin to spot treat weeds my yard is Bermuda you could have done it on the same day Tom there's not really like pre-emergent is kind of like what the name implies it's designed to prevent new weeds from coming in uh a post-emergent herb to take care of existing weeds like there are PE like I've done it myself but there are people that will mix pre-emergent and post-emergent and use that as a way to clean up a weed infested lawn um but as far as spot spraying you could have you could do it um the same day you could do the following day if you wanted to there's not really a period of time where you need to wait because um again with with the poster herbicide you're taking you're dealing with weeds that are existing in the lawn which a pre-emergent is it going to do a whole lot for so you could go out tomorrow if you wanted to and spot spray and that's actually funny so the other Tom V is not Rachel's uncle that is that's Rachel's Uncle with because the last name so that's funny so hey Tom thanks for watching pretty cool nice nice so there you go so you got got your question answered uh Tom if you need anything else let us know and thanks for come support support uh Deon it's pretty cool all right munir mahed says not to put you on the spot Ron so you're about to ask me something that's going put me on the spot that's what's about to happen here he says but what are your thoughts on the swordman Electra for homeowners they are quiet come with cartridges and aren't too expensive um I've never used one myself um the only electors I've ever seen are the ones at real rollers and um their experience with them was not was not the best so that's you know maybe the ones they all had were ones that had issues with them and they were working on them or whatever but I've not I've never mowed Within electri Myself to be able to say how well it works or doesn't work um so I I I really can't I really can't say I'll tell you this if when something goes bad with electric mower it's it can be pretty expensive to fix so what I would say is if you're going to go with the Electra um and I I would think the cartridge for the Electra the same ones for the other swordman um you know if you're getting a really like a smoking deal on it I would look at it I would price it from the standpoint here's a better way to answer your question if the price you're getting on the mower and cartridges um is a good deal if all you were buying were the cartridges then I would say go for it because then you can always go Outten you know you can always go get it like a any one of the other swordman mowers and if the if the electric mower breaks down and go to something else um but the limited experience that I have with it um I've seen with those they've not they've not been you know as as reliable for example as my as my allet has been my my um my c27 so um you to take that forward it's worth I again probably not a question I really can answer because I've never actually owned an electro never really used one regularly I the only ones that I've seen were ones that real rollers had and those ones they I they just didn't they they didn't work very well so um so yeah so hope that helps all right Jared George he says you know on the topic of electric I'll look for the next comment um Devin like with you guys when you're mowing right now are you what percentage of your equipment is electric if any um and what's I guess the rest of it gas like do you guys use any electric equipment at all um so the only two pieces of equipment that we have are electric are our two greens mowers um a hybrid um but that's the only um electric hybrid equipment we have um everything else is either gas or diesel okay so gas or diesel and and the electrics are for the greens cool yeah all right uh Jared says strap action gang my dad had surgery so helping him with his spring lawn care this year he has cool season mix while I have Bermuda okay can I apply pamine in a post emergent on the same day to hislon okay no so the rates you can use pamine on both cool season grass and warm season and grass but the rates are very different so cool season and grass rates for for p piging are about half half and sometimes even less than half of what um what you can use for um for warm season turf grass a good example like the common rate for pamine on Co SE and turf grass is like 8585 0 2 per thousand for Bermuda it's like 36 we'll call it 0 4 all the way up to 08 which is the maximum so it's about double the rate that you use for warm season Turf grasses which you would use for cool season so that's going to be different um and then as far as your post emerant herbicides they're going to be completely different unless you are using like what's an example of one you can use if you are using like a um like a three-way something like Triad like that will work on both cool and warm season Turf grasses but if you're talking talking about something that's specific to cool to warm season grass like say if you're using like say Celsius or certainty do not use this on your dad's um lawn he will he will not you guys will have a falling out don't do it um so just be careful the rates are going to be different and then as far as your posters or herbicide you got to be just more cognizant that there's only a few that really you can use between um warm and cool season turf grass and I will check the rates too I mean for even for when you're using it on cool seas and grass um there may be some guidance as far as differences in rates for as far as that goes yep so uh so yeah hope that helps Jared and um that's good at least that's good you're a good son you're helping helping your uh your dad out and but yeah just don't don't mix up one bash prod me it's good for your Al and say Hey Dad I'm going to go and do yours too and you might not like that all right this is one for you uh Devin golf junkie says so still six hours north of you Devon but talk about bio stimulons and what you use thanks okay um so at the course um we we kind of use just um one big one it's just kind of a kelp product um that we get from one of our Distributors um and then as far as my my lawn here I'm actually really looking forward to it'll be the first year I'm going to use it I'm going to use the Miri um carbon kit so I've got the 901c and the what's the kelp is it the um neutr kelp neutr kelp and then the biospectrum so I'll be using those three this year um in years past I've used um some humic kelp based products um that I can get from uh Distributors around here um so yeah I've used used like different combinations of stuff um and they all work really good um but um this year I'm going to be using the carbon kit which I'm really excited to see see how see how that works nice cool yeah keep me posted I think you will like the results I mean not I think so kind love bio love bi love bio stimulants I think they're great I think they're really good I think it makes your whatever fertilizer you're putting down it makes it more efficient um just helps with the soil itself um it's it's kind of foolish to not use them um I I just think they're a really really good good product and can help a lot have a lot of benefits nice I agree yeah I mean I I get by with putting less nitrogen like act nitrogen B potassium like less less um nut traditional fertilizer in the soil and still have a great stand of turf grass I and I credit that largely to to the biostimulant program so yeah um so yeah all right so next up is you're you're a Alabama fan aren't you I think you are Alabama fan we see okay okay okay this is not this is not this is not not call for we're supposed to be supposed to be cool like I just had it there it's usually cold in the basement so I usually usually put it on all right so our FR Journey says just stop by to say roll TI de would be real tide there you go I've turn learned a I've learned a ton from your live stream and videos so there you you got another Alabama another Alabama fan here uh so yeah so what do you think um ad are you guys a little bit worried this year with saving old St Nicki's gone so you guys think you're gonna we'll we'll be putting a 19 on this one after we win the championship this year so no need to be see he knew was really was really disappointed when sa and retired but I think Kaylin dbor is going to be good and I think the staff they put together is going to be good I'm excited and I think with the new layout of how the SEC conferences are um yes I think that's going to be really cool um I think it's sweet that we get to play Georgia in like the season and for a regular game that's going to be that's going to be a lot of fun and I just I think it's going to be a cool year and I think with the 12 team playoff I think it'll be a fun year fun year for college football I think so I mean it's less um it'll seem less political than we'll see you know so cool all right uh next up is munire he says several International status Cricket grounds are popping up all over the US now and head uh ground curators come over from I guess Aussie from Australia oie I guess I don't know um but yeah yeah here's the thing so like my dad loves Cricket is a huge I mean any any of the British um I guess we' say the Commonwealth any the BR any any of that Britain one ran or has strong British influence Cricket is really big so obviously Britain um a lot of the islands in the Caribbean so Antiga big into Cricket um G Brian Lara um Pakistan India a lot a lot of those a lot of those guys are just you know a lot of those countries are are big into Cricket I I I wouldn't have thought that it'd be a uh popular here because it's I don't know I don't think Americans would get in I mean I think Americans are getting are more into soccer like football or you know International Football more of a following but cricket could be kind of can be kind of slow you talk about like some test matches that are like multiple days I don't think people are going to be on for that so we'll see we'll see nice uh let's see here next up is uh he says Dave um agnu at Major League cricket stadium in Dallas came from um Adelaide and now a new pop-up stadium is being built in New York for 2024 World Cup the curator again is from Australia you got or oie you guys know your stuff uh cool cool yeah all right Mark Luna is up next he says good evening all time to talk grass yeah thanks for coming to hang out Mark um yes and I am looking that thing you emailed me about I am looking into it um you know we're going to once I find out something from um from them I'll let you know but again I thanks thanks for coming to hang out tonight really appreciate all the support all right next up we have Massie Motorsport she says Ron how best to assassinate a tree change choice of words and replace with a dwarf variety under cover of night without the HOA knowing asking for a friend they're probably it depends on how militant your HOA is they're probably going to they may may not notice I don't know how about you guys de are you guys required to have trees in your Lawns where you live or do you H so it's it's actually really funny um we are required to have a certain amount of plant material and a certain amount of trees and it was pretty funny the landscape company that I used um when I met with their design guy pretty much handed him a paper um and it had a rough sketch of what I wanted everything to look like um a list of the plant material I wanted and then how much I knew what uh hard skate material is per tonnage and it was kind of funny to look at he's like oh where did you where did you get all this from and told him what I did and he was like okay that makes sense um uh but yeah uh we have to have two trees and we actually had to have one in the back too because we back up to a street that's visible um to the neighborhood but the one thing I had when I did my design is I don't have any trees in my turf so um no trees in the turf because I was like that'll be a nightmare trying to realm around that so I put everything is either in a bed off to the side or out out of the way so nice so M nasty that might be it you might be able to say hey if I put bunch of shrubs in the beds will that satisfy my my green requirements or whatever might be a way to go um Tom says have you heard of a shovel a tow strap car tire pickup Method All right so this is this is a question from yard hard he says uh uh you can germinate grass seed in a wet paper towel can you explain what the bio stems are doing for uh germination um I could take a crack at at first and want time in so I think first I'd say yes wh while you can germinate some grass seed in it doesn't take much for them to germinate as far as the plant like thriving and and doing well after germination like having healthy soil which biostimulants do create um is an important an important aspect of that you know what I mean so it's like it's not just getting it to start shooting Roots once it begins to start growing biosim really will help the plant root in and and and do well so it's not just that one little portion of saying oh it's you know it's germinated now you know what like what value biems add to that it's it's the entire life cycle the entire life of the plant that that they help support y i I agree so essentially that the wet paper towels just creating like a a wet moist constant so soil profile so it'll germinate in that but yeah same thing like Ron said as soon as that germinates and you get some Sprout that's coming off of that those roots will go out and immediately they they're looking for nutrients and what they need to grow and become a healthy plant um so having those bio stimulants in the soil just makes that a lot easier and a lot quicker yeah yeah so it's um it's it's definitely something I mean I'll tell you something yard heart if you ever get a chance um and again if you give a chance to get to get your hands on um on some carbonized PN give it give this a shot so which carbonn is biochar and um mirami blend of of compost and if you just go find a spot in your in your yarn take like a a 12in like a 12-in circle right and put some some some carbonized PN down in that se in that area and work it in and don't do anything else don't do anything else in 10 14 days you're going to see a color difference in that part of the the lawn where you where you added that compared to everything else you haven't added any fertilizer you're not really watering it anymore but what it does help with is is nutrient availability that's a big part of what of what the the products do um and again I've I've applied them six different ways from Sunday when when I first when I first started um was was looking into um I was partner with Miramichi green and I just testing out their products I did exactly that so I had a part you can actually find it there's a video that I did it's probably five or six years old at this point maybe a little longer than that and um I it was is using carbon proog which is a product that that Mari green makes for for letco site one and on on my lawn if you sitting on the patio and you look at the right side of it and again this has nothing to do with germination but it kind of just leads into the topic of how bio simulates help turf grass to thrive is um that right side because of how water comes off of it was always lagging behind the rest of the lawn the rest of the lawn looked really nice vibrant green but that area always didn't just didn't look that great so what I did is when I got a bag of this product the first time I was testing it I did an application just there and if you look in the video which I'll see if I can dig it up and send it to you like a couple of weeks later the the area that was the worst part of my lawn literally went from worst to best like the color was better and this is out with more not more watering no more fertilizer was applied just by just doing that it made a visual difference in the in the quality of the of the turf grass so um yes you can germinate grass seed in a in a wet towel but I mean or wet wet wet paper towel but it's not going to grow in that right you it's the entire life cycle it's not just that one that one part of the event yeah and that's kind of cool I wish I would have took pictures when I did this when I first started using bence on my old yard um I had a 12 by 12 uh foot by foot I guess a piece of cardboard that I put down and for the first month that I applied bio because same thing I was curious I was like I want to see if this stuff actually really does work you would remove that and after that first month noticeably different in the color and the quality of the turf versus what got the bio simulant and what didn't so it just kind of kind of a cool thing good stuff Instagram you guys are quiet tonight man all right so next up we have we're getting close guys tell you what at the top of the hour at it's 900 pm. Eastern so in 20 minutes we'll do the drawing for the bag of carbonized PN all right um next up we have to Trilla he says Hey Ron and happy Friday everyone good to see de has gracious with his presence for some Coes and turf talk look man Deon had a bus busy year he's you know got built a house got his lawn in order got married here recently so you know the man's he's a busy guy you know you can't just he's got other things to do other than just come out here and hang out in first hours talking about grass stuff so but yes we are very happy you're here hopefully we can make it more than once a year because as you can tell everyone really enjoys it they like talking to you more than like talking to me so uh so yeah we go to got to make this happen all right uh G street is up next he says I did a full lawn renovation last fall I put down a fast release fertilizer this spring will it hamper my root growth I am up North with blue grass no um let's see so you put lawn run last fall did a fast release this spring already no it shouldn't shouldn't hamper your root growth if anything it'll kind of just wake everything up and Kickstart everything um if if everything's ready to get going um if that's the case and I that won't hurt anything yeah yeah so I can't see why it would be any negatives like like Devon's saying um yeah all right so two TRS up next he says imagine being trying to be the man on the Block watching run every Friday to see Devon out there laser grading that here's the thing when he sent me the pictures he says laser grading I'm like man I feel so inadequate I mean like who laser grading okay all right man okay like like subtle Flex okay how must the man compete all jokes aside I would love to be your neighbor I don't know man it'd be a lot of stress you know you it' be interesting I don't know I don't know about that um but yeah because you can tell like his prep work I was looking over the pictures before the live stream started um like that looks really good I mean that you know and you can see how with by how the sod went in um that grading process really got it nice and nice and smooth and even so so really when you top dress it shouldn't take a whole lot for you to get things where you wanted I wouldn't think this year right no no and um I'm actually I'm stealing an idea that the lawn Whisperer had on his channel luckily my wife loves me enough that she bought me one for Christmas is one of the Lany spreaders so I'm GNA put I'm going to put my material in that and then I'm just going to walk it out and I'm not doing crazy not beaching or anything I just want to get a good fine layer on the top mostly to kind of help those seams knit in um and then there's just a couple few spots here and there from when I was on the yard when it was kind of wet and still growing in um it kind of made a couple Little impressions um but nothing too crazy okay and as far as like hi to cut like once you've got this all done where do you want to maintain it throughout the year three quars so I'm gonna do three4 of an inch what I've got got the bench height set at nice cool all right dalen Krauss is up next he says Hey Ron I'm doing a Renault on my back Laine I have an area between the house and the fence about 8 feet wide House fence 8T wide okay um if it were you would you put fescue in that area area or do a rock mulch bed trying to decide man yeah cuz 8 feet I'm just trying to trying to um visualize this if you only got like 8 feet between a house and then if it's especially if it's like a privacy fence like it's not like a rod iron fence um you you're gonna have a hard time growing grasser I mean Fescue may not even maybe yeah do well there um I don't know thing about day I mean even if you could do you want to have to get a like take a mower back there cuz 8 ft is kind of it's it's enough just to kind of be a hassle you know what I mean I I don't know I have to see a picture of it um but I might I might just make it into some kind of hor vegetable garden yeah Garden put a mulch bed in there yeah mulch bed just like a like a maybe like a rock sidewalk or something a rock like you know pathway but I mean I don't for 8 feet I just don't know that it's that it's worth the headache um personally I don't I don't know cuz think about it now if you got grass back there now now you got to you got to mow it you got to Edge it you got to just for8 feet I don't know that that's that's necessarily um especially in the back Laine you know it's not like a part it's not like we're going to really entertain or do anything so if you want send me a picture and maybe if it's a really cool 8 feet and maybe it makes sense to do that but I'm just visualizing what you're describing I I don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze to me um and you said it would be up against some tooma 31 yeah just enjoy the TOA man I don't just let the back let the back kind of go my thoughts all right uh next up is uh C pimps Colin he says I'm curious if Devon has used gypsum before on the course and if so um they use it at a certain recommended rate uh yep so we're actually doing um we haven't done it in a couple years but we're due for an app this fall and an app this spring and I believe it's about 400 PB in acres what the rate goes out on that so it's pretty pretty high rate so 400 pound AC get two shots to do it so um you got to make make those applications worthwhile so 4 400 pounds an acre that works out that it's like nine is that nine pounds per thousand square feet they're about n yeah yeah so that's not that's not that's a lot that's a lot col and that's going uh course wide so you think about that we got 36 Acres of Fairway um 24 Acres of surrounds um it's going on the t's too which is 2.6 acres and then we got another I think it's want to say it's 26 or 28 Acres of rough so it's it's going to be a lot of material going out and when that goes down uh as far as getting it into the soil profil is it just water or do you guys do any other yeah it'll just be uh hopefully we'll see time it with a rainstorm um rain or moisture event or it'll just get watered in with regular irrigation Cycles okay cool uh question for you about blue muda say uh Deon any experiments with bluda which is like a blend of using uh Bermuda grass and Kentucky blueg grass um ever see a successful establishment um so it's actually really funny um the seed that I bought that 365 SS um those three varieties are designed too for a blue muta mix um they've used it at the Rose Bowl for that before so I would say that's probably a pretty successful um test um I think the Rose Bowl usually has some of the best Turf I put it right up there with a gusta usually um oh whoa watch it watch careful now so um but yeah it's um I've heard that that's really good um but as far as other varieties I don't know too much about um I've just been reading about that since I bought some of that seed and was doing some research on it before I bought it but they say that has really good successful rate uh inter seed and that in with remita grass cool all right Andre Taylor's up next he says good evening Ron and Devin happy Friday many thanks for all the LA Care wisdom we appreciate every blade of it I guess pun intended nice all right uh next up um Tom he says also Devon using a for here's the thing and I knew this was gonna happen when when I when you told me you had a 14 blade green smash said okay everyone's gonna go out and get 14 blade mowers now he's okay um I heard he's using a 14 blade on a higher cut do you have any tips to reduce Rippling SL washboarding um I think we that I know that mow is going to work really good because it Mo it's mowe te's for years at the at the club with that um I think that groomer helps a lot um it's set just enough to kind of go through and kind of finally comb that would stand it up and we should get a really good clean cut as that comes through nice so the 14 blade combined with the groomer at 3/4 of an inch0 75 should be you think is going to going to work out well yep nice um um next up is um John Williams says I have mole crickets how do you kill those um there's a insecticide I'm not sure what if you guys ever to deal with this but there's an insecticide called Delta guard uh that I believe is labeled for mole crickets um John I'm I'm pretty sure because I get this question like a couple times a year and um so I'll get you a link to it um look at double check me double check the label but I'm pretty sure that this is um it's label for both Bermuda mics and also um mole crickets so let me get this to you here real quick and you can take a look at that and you can maybe that'll be the solution to your uh to the problem you're having all right ah star41 says Ron I tried Primo for the first time last year my cool season lawn curious on what I could mix with my split Primo apps to help with color over the summer you know what we happen to have someone that does primo sprays Primo on cool season turf grass so we'll ask ask him so whenever I do whenever I do my Primo um it'll be mixed in with a liquid fertilizer it's an 1806 and that only goes down at um 05 so half a tenth of a pound um so that doesn't do much but I do that uh weekly um and then I always have it'll either be an iron product or it'll be a micronutrient product um and then it'll either be some other stuff that gets thrown in the r got to take your device can't give all my secrets away um but anyways I always it my Prim always gets mixed in with a little bit of nitrogen and either a liquid micronutrient and a liquid iron so there's one of those and that kind of just helps with any bronzing but once once you get grass gets used to it there's really no bronzing um especially with the split rate nice yep so hope that helps a star um yeah I mean what he describes is I do the same thing I use the 901c carbon kit and uh yeah it does a good job result every two weeks that's what happens all right higgy pops up says happy Friday have a great show thank you so much higgy we do appreciate it and then John Williams says how much carbonized PN would I need for a th000 square foot yard it depends so one bag is label to cover 1,000 square feet like the way Devon is using it um you I'm not sure how many bags you mixed with with how much um sand you have do you remember how much so I got 1,800 pounds of sand roughly um those to or those bins can fit um they're 7 and2 gallon buckets so they can fit three three full of those in so roughly roughly it's 1,800 pounds that I have out there um and each bin gets about 20ish pounds so I've been measuring that out it gets 20 pounds of carbonized PN in each bin so each stack is one bag moving down okay yeah and and your total lawn size is you said 1500 how many square feet yep it's about 1500 yep yeah so there you go John so if you're if you're doing what he's doing you can a few bags is really all you would really need to to to do that but per the label it's like a th it's like one bag per thousand per thousand square feet I've done I've gone heavier than that when I've just used just it on the front line um and it works great um it's more expensive way of doing it but I'll tell you the the color is insane it's incredible it's not not good for top dressing though it's more sorry it's not good for leveling it's more for just top dressing yeah I'll be curious to see if I kind of get uh it'll be tough to tell because there'll be other products down um but I kind of almost want to at some point do like a separate little trial to see kind of like what green up just that that does you'll it's it's pretty insane man like I've done um I've done that on the front like I'll show you uh show you a picture here really quick I can I can do that um so this uh when I find bi sance this was from a couple a few years back when I did a top dress of the front line with just car carbonized Pian gr I did go heavy um and you can see like the picture really doesn't do it justice like that I'm sure it's really coming through but that color is just and again this is that this is no additional fertilizer no additional anything else the color was just so rich and and is absolutely gorgeous um so I think you're going to see if you decide to give that a shot you're going to see a difference I I'm I'm I'm fairly fairly confident in uh in that um yep okay good so next up is Johnny's back again he says how do I kill pometto bugs um I don't man I'm not sure what in decide will do that I think I think D damous Earth will do it but I don't know if you're like I'm not are you talking about in your lawn maybe maybe by fenine I I I don't know I don't T off my head like what's label to to control those um so I will um if you want send me an email ronl course.com I'll look into it and give you an answer after the show's over but um but yeah yeah I wouldn't think those would be difficult to um to take care of all right Short Grass living says emailed you the grass seed I have but I have but haven't tried it's SPF 30 Texas blue grass and then a Ry grass from Twin City call Michaela it's like even the name spf30 I mean come on it's kind of cool name for grass seed nice uh and then a r grass call Michaela okay cool I'll look into him Short Grass living and yeah we can we get like a a planter outside and we'll try growing some of it and see how it does um next up okay next up is Christopher Christopher burette he says speaking of cool season grass what is your reason for not over seating with Rye no fall pre-emergent mowing all year maybe slower Bermuda Greenup I would like to see Ry stripes on your lawn um in my case it's it's a bit of all three and the one you didn't mention is I don't like cold weather that much so I don't want to have to mow when it's cold out um but yeah I mean here's the thing seeing Robert's lawn this past year and if you guys ever watched the live stream Robert rain's um he's always shown pictures of his lawn it looks so good it look I don't have a picture of it it it is it looks so insanely good that um I may you know this is the wrong um it's the wrong profile that's why I can't I can't show you um it looks so good that I I may have to give it a go this um this fall and just and just deal with it right just deal with um like if I get some if I have some po the following year if I have um you know you know and the Bermuda is is slower to Green up I may have to do that because it looks it looks so good looks so good um we'll see what what what might happen Christopher is I may just do just the front lawn or just just just an area because it's a lot to have to mow you know almost 12,000 sare feet if I do just the front lawn then it's not as big a deal uh so yeah all right next up is V Navi this is a good one for you Devon I think he says what is the best temperature to put down cool season grass seed in in the spring um ideally you want the soil temps to be 5560 with everything kind of Greening up um you can certainly put it down before as long as the soil is not Frozen um it just won't do anything um and usually if you're soil's Frozen then you're not able to do all the agronomic practices to set that seat up for success to germinate so uh 55 to 60 and once stuff's starting to Green up nice cool all right next we got um Oliver Rhythm he says happy Friday Ron scalping was a tway project for me tell me about it it can be be a lot of work decided to take uh to take it to 75 in then to 4 in grass is already greened up for after five days so um Oliver sent me pictures of his lawn before the show to show you guys that so this was the lawn before before scalping which actually looks pretty good pretty good yeah exactly as I'm saying I wish my graph was that green not that green yet um so this is like phase two he bringing the greens Master out about to go do some do some battle and you can see he's cutting all the color off of it I'm thinking this is like the 0 4 um height and that's it's looking like now nice and tight um that's the material that came out of it which is um which is quite a bit um that's that's a it's not a small amount and then the final final result is that so he took a lawn which most people would say this looks better he went from this to this but when it grows back through it's going to be I'm sure absolutely gorgeous so um so good stuff Oliver um Serv a lot of work um thanks for sharing sharing the picture see look at all the fun you guys miss out on by having cool season grass Deon think about that yeah that's pretty how long does that take uh like once you scalp it to like really start like see a green flush come through on that not long a week yeah a week weak week um so what what you tend to what tends to happen is if you have a lawn where you scalp it and a lawn where you don't scalp it um you will see the the lawn that was scalped will be two to three weeks in some cases ahead of the one that wasn't so it doesn't take very doesn't take very long yeah Bermuda loves to be cut short so um it really wake it wakes it up if you um you clean a lot of that debris out and you cut it short it's not like it's not a permanent um it it doesn't hurt anything at all the grass grass loves it nice yep y good stuff all right so um Tom Hoffman Camp he says Devin so are you saying the turf has a memory it remembers last year's pgr mind blown are there any other lawn memory factors or issues we can use positively or watch out for negatively um that's a good question uh definitely like anything like pgrs where you're really just changing the way the plant Works um when you're doing stuff like that other stuff that's like nutrients it just is going to uptake take it as it needs it uh but when you're really changing uh chemical structures and how the plant perceives what you want it to do that's when it kind of you got to teach it and kind of do it it's I guess kind of same thing with mowing um you got to teach the grass you can't just go out and blow blow it down from two inches to three4 of an inch you kind of got to gradually take it down and get it used to to that he of cut to thrive and like um when it starts going down lower it changes the way it grows and like leaves become uh finer versus like fatter when they grow up taller the way it spreads is a little bit different so yeah anyway when you're changing like anything within the plant it kind of it's better to go slow than just quick it tends to adapt yep yep uh David eckl another one of you people from Alabama he's like rooll tide I why I don't know why I put this up here here's the thing only because a company this is happening all you Alabama fans just know next week you guys do this I'm just gonna ignore the comment this is going to be I'm just move on past it all right um Taylor Riley is up next he says Hey Ron West Texas my yard is only about 20% greened up should I wait to scalp and begin 1474 until I'm regularly mowing or good to go ahead and do it got the itch uh you can you can go ahead and do it I mean my um my front lawn is definitely further ahead than the back um but I it's all been cut um it's all been been modowe and um it's the the 1224 in my case I'm not putting any phosphorous in the soil um is already has already gone down so uh so yeah you you're good to go if you if you want to do that uh royy Jr Browns says Flex okay and then next up we have GH he says good evening cool on peeps they're all coming out dud I'm seeing more people who I've never seen before we got to do more cool season content you got to come on more man is what a strange year for temps and drought effect still freezing high 20s at night and warmish dry 40s I uh the grass is currently turning red now can't wait for rain huh okay uh Roy Brown Jr says hello what's going on and then um paper Chaser says I got some Governor gpgr when is the best time to um apply that's a good point have you ever used any of the grand uh growth regulator no i' I've read about him I've never used them I guess I'm I'm really not brave enough um I just don't think you can control like very like quantitative the amount going out versus granular I guess it's just not as accurate as I guess the word that I'm looking for but I have read read about him but I guess if you're applying him it' be the same thing um when everything's green and growing regularly mowing ready um is when you would apply that but no never never used the granular pgrs yeah no not it's it's always been liquid um yeah yeah it's always been look because to your to de's point it's like the rates are so small that it's um you know I just I don't know that you can really be as precise with a grer product and also frankly if you're out there doing the big a big reason to do liquids in my opinion is that you can do a lot of other stuff along with it you can spray a little micronutrient you can spray some bellance you can do a lot whereas with granular it's like you do that and then you have to go do something you know it's hard to to stack them all together and save time yep um okay uh Larry's up next he says Hey Ron I've been been very busy the last few weeks but the lawn has greened up nice and dark blanket spray tried and killed all the weeds okay uh 1224 every four weeks I'll email next week with pictures sounds like a plan nice Honan says hi Ron it's going on and then next up is I am Psalms 91 equipped says uh Ron what would be the best fertilizer organic in what would be the best fertilizer organic um from AR I guess you're in Argentina uh I don't know what you can get in Argentina um like the the the organic fertilizers that I have experienced with are Morganite which I haven't used for many years and then um the 147 sorry the the the four the triple four product from Miramichi green um both are great I like the triple four better I think it's better value for money and also just the formulation is better um but as far as what you can get in Argentina I I don't know um I don't know it's it's hard to say I mean I mean I don't know what you guys have what you guys have access to and as far as best uh goes I mean you know I mean I I don't know it's it's a I don't know what you have access to to be able to be able to tell you what to um what to go with um go with there if you were here in the states and you were looking for an organic fertilizer I would recommend the um the triple 4 from Miramichi green it's an army listed product it's like a really good product I mean it took like a year longer to get access to it than we expected because of all the all the work they did to try and get it exactly right so that is what I would go with if you want to use an organic granular fertilizer so sorry I'm not more help on this because I don't know what's available in Argentina thanks all right um next up is JT huler says rain would be nice um not seeing any snow here in Minnesota worried as I put down fertilizer with pre-emergent before 50° soil temps still high 30s low 40s didn't turn on water yet okay um so what I guess he put out his pre-emergent and then it got got got cold um yeah I mean yeah it could be hit or miss you'll find out I guess once stuff wakes up yeah that's it I mean I mean you're there now so it's not a whole lot you can only you can only uh go ahead the way I look at this though is that's good learning learning experience because if you kind in the same boat in another year you can look back on this year and be like oh it did work didn't work and then go from there so good learning experience that's the thing with turf grass there's very few mistakes you can make I mean there are some but there's very few mistakes you you can make that are permanent like it's grass it'll eventually can eventually fix itself you know what I mean yeah so fair or not let's your heart not be troubled all right so we have a super chat we'll grab this one really quick and then go back to our comments this one is from Mr G super re he says big Ron you are the dude getting ready for the season my yard is 60% out of dorcy the rest of the subdivision is still asleep a't that nice so here's the thing when your lawn is all you know it's all green everyone else is green all you can really do is compare your level of green to everyone else's level of green but when your lawn's green and everyone else is still dormant I mean that's it's pretty nice that's has a lot as far as domination goes so good stuff Cedric I'm glad to hear that you're you're leading the charge and thank you so much for the Super Chat I think you are our highest super chats that makes you know now the show sponsor so there you go your name inls forever that means to you and uh dominate humbly you know be sure to get get out there and give folks um give folks advice whenever they they uh they need I mean don't be like like me where like whenever I'm throwing my products out I throw like some in one trash can and some in another trash can in case you know people are going through and going through my trash in the middle of night you I got to you got to make sure you it's like a CIA oper here all right Jason CL is up next he says happy Friday uh I got my soul test back it remember recommended a 1600 I didn't see that in your store what do you suggest uh humic Max the 168 I mean a bit of Po adding a bit of pottassium is not gonna Is Not Really Gonna gon to hurt anything that's um that is what I would use Jason the 16 Z the 168 humic Max is what I would uh is what I would go with I'll even link it for you here in the in the chat um to make life even easier for you and that's not right there you go okay so at Jason all right cool that one all right guys we're getting close I got to do the drawing here for the carbonized PN if you've not gone to last week's live stream and commented I want carbonized PN go do that um courtesy of the nice Folks at Miramichi green um is Adam Carter says Hey Ron I sent you an email about how to stop birds from digging holes in my yard I sent you pictures of what the holes look like yeah so as far as holes digging in your yard Adam they're probably after earthworms or some other insects so short of eliminating those I don't know I mean shotgun but I mean that's probably neighbor's probably not going to like that I don't know to tell you um also when are you going to start putting fertilizer down already done so granular is already gone down and then on the 15th I will spray the carbon kit so already started nice all right question for Devon this is from Colin he says can you apply too much gypsum since I've got hard clay soil I've always used quite a lot and never had an issue with it affecting The Lawns no um you really can't over apply gypsum um it's just one of those uh one of those uh nutrients that it it really doesn't matter you can put it on as heavy as you want um I wouldn't recommend doing that but if you did it doesn't do it I mean at my old house I would do I want to say it was probably about 15 pounds per thousand I did every spring and fall um never had any issues yeah he said he just did 30 to 35 pounds on 500 square feet of bare soil uh like I mentioned really hard compacted never had an issue with it just want to hear your thoughts on it so that's definitely higher than what you're doing but it's probably yeah you're probably good for a while you probably don't need to put any more on um but I I don't think it'll it shouldn't heard anything nice cool Colin so hopefully that is um is helpful for you and all right next up we have making a note because it's a really good question is Moon doggy we're almost to the end guys then we can do the drawing um from says hello from California what's going on Mund doggy and then um Dal KRA says how often will Devon have to mow at 34 of an inch for his cool seon lawn Devin do you ever go out of state to check out other golf courses say my buddy a superintendent at Oak Tree National in Oklahoma um how often will I mow well when I was rotary mowing I was probably mowing four or five days a week so I'll probably still mow four or five days a week I usually mow Monday Wednesday Friday um Saturday and Sunday if I can since I'm home um and then as far as going out to other golf courses I actually don't very often even here surprisingly um I like golf I'm I'm not a I'm not a huge golfer um the Romy side is my path what I love um I'm thankful for the game of golf because without it I wouldn't have a job um but like when I when I golf uh the way I keep score is how many how many beers and laughs I enjoy during the round of golf I don't actually keep score when I play um and I hardly ever play my own course um whenever I play it's still it still work still noticing everything that needs to be be better which nothing wrong with that though um but yeah when I whenever I do play it's just it's just to have a good time so just have fun I like Top Golf top golf's fun okay I can see that just get out there and just just see how you know play play with them guess distance and hit cuts and draws and Y you're not putting divots in your in your Turf there's also that too y exactly uh Adam says would it be okay to put down a fertilizer here in Georgia since it's um going to get in the upper 30s this Sunday night um so here's the thing Adam I mean if you want to wait you can but what you're going to find is we will still have a day where temperatures will get cold but it's going to it's going to come right back you know what I mean so so the overall trend is going to be warmer um you know last granted I mean last year we did have a period there where late March we got down into like the the high 20s low 30s um for several days and that did stunt some of the turf but I mean if you have like one day where it's cold colder it's it's going to be it's going to be just fine I really wouldn't wouldn't sweat it again if you want to wait you can um but mine's already out so if you want to email me or ask me hey how's your lawn doing after Sunday's not going to be a good day to tell me if you want to ask me like by Wednesday next week how it's doing I'll be able to tell you I'll take pictures and it's probably going to be just fine all right uh next up um you're very welcome I am s 91 equipped and then Jared George says um thanks guys I wasn't worried about rates uh I'm aware just had um he says has some weeds left over and I was wondering about doing his pre-emergent and spot spraying with the proper post emergent to his the same day yes you can do that um Jared um yeah there's no no problem doing that at all uh let's see Terrence I think it's a cool season question he says Hey Ron St Louis here Turf tall fescue laid down pamine on March 1st still a good amount of weeds that have come through should or could I put down pamine in November to control September overseed um I guess two things um it depends on what rate you use for your initial if you did the full rate then you'll need to use a different pre-emergent which I would use tenacity um if you're planning on overseeding because pamine and overseeding really don't mix well um the seed new seed doesn't doesn't like to grow up through that barrier and you can kind of get some root pruning issues and just doesn't come in very good nice so hope that helps parents uh so as long as you're sensible with the race you might be able to pull it off this fall um all right next up is Andre Taylor he says Ron I know it's been a bit early but since you're already putting down fertilizer when will you start spoon feeding um so I'll I'll spray the carbon kit on the 15th of this month um but again Primo is not really going to start happening until until at best best um Mid April more than likely it's going to be typically I do it like May um the first week of May is when I typically start preo so it just depends on what temperatures do um and how the turf's looking but uh but yeah all right um JT says says what you don't play golf come on man yeah I mean only sometimes but you got to think about it the golf course is my office it'd be like on your day off if you went and hung out in your office I could see that I could see that and then you go yeah and and in your case your job is to make it look as good as possible and all you're seeing when you're walking around is the things that need to be fixed yeah I can see it and and then during the summer I'm there Monday through F Monday through Fridays and then I also work Saturday morning so I'm still there almost every day and then I take Sundays off so you don't want to take Sunday and go back and play golf at the same place yeah I got a on my yard at home see so there you go the reason why is his priorities so there you go right all right uh I was gonna say kind of this is kind of just a weird little side tangent um some of the guys at work always give me a hard time that they're like ah you got to get some Hobbies they're like you do this all day at work and then you go home and do it but I think I've discovered why I enjoy doing the yard stuff and like all the handson and getting dirty doing it because the farther you go up in the industry the further away you get from all the fun of doing it so it's fun to actually get a go home and do all that instead of getting to watch everyone else get to have all the fun I could see that yeah cuz you while you might specify like the rates that are used for spraying you know X product like you're not the one actually spraying it yeah exactly yeah I could see that you're not the one actually running the mowers and I can yeah I can I I I I get it I get it all right Grace Ortiz says Ron what can I put down to increase my organic matter soest showed low organic matter and the pH is 61 Turf type to Fescue um essential G carbonized PN essential G is the easier of the two because you can apply it with your broadcast spreader carbonized PN is awesome but you're but applying that you know over a property over a lawn is going to be a bit more work than essential G so y I would say essential G Grace that would be my vote final answer all right next up is um and I'll I'll send you a link here Grace um once um in a second I'll find I'll send it to you where you can where you can pick it up it's actually right you can actually go here at Grace I can type um Grace right there all right all right next up is Colin he says awesome that's what I I figured as well too I agree I won't be putting down anym for a while it's part of the prep um for the newon as Ron knows yes as far as the amount of chips them okay cool good stuff all right and then our final comments we're winding down here a little bit Shantel says good evening lawn peeps curious Ron when is it time to spray for insects a celin and preventative fungicide pillar SC in April do you mix it with the carbon kit great question so I do my um preventive insecticide app um again this is if you live in Northeast Georgia it is you know depending on where you are in the country it does change a little bit but the first part of April is when I will do my celr um application the product that I use I got a bot of it here is this it's a Cel print SC the suspension concentrate the liquid I like to use this and the rate I use is .20 o per th000 square ft um that's a good rate there's enough left over that if you want to do another app in August or so like July August um in case you're worried about army worms you still got some on your annual limit to be able to do that so 020 works well for me that's thing one as far as funer side for preventative funer side I do two apps one in May one in June and then pillar SC or Headway G are what I um are what I use so either one of those if you like liquids go with pillar if you like granular go with Headway either one's going to work well good stuff and this a good point so um so for you guys um Devon on the greens like how often are you guys using fungicides on the on the greens um every other week during the growing season so it's a preventative uh program and it's a rotation of multiple fungicides that get uh use so there's no resistance or anything um and then the rest of the course just gets a single application um usually in August where we get some dollar spot pressure and that's usually just propic conazol or um what's the active ingredient it's a three what is it 336f oh 36f I don't know in it t-methyl not t-methyl that's Primo thionate methyl is what's in that one okay cool yeah nice so so even with you guys for the greens the the the prevented program is a lot more involved because just the stress on the on the turf but everything else you get by with one um with one per year nice good stuff um let's see here Nixa Eagle says Ron Devin what do you all know about iron cutter uh sorry no cool using content I don't I don't know what that what is that iron cutter no I'm not sure yeah not sure says Devin how what a good question here Devon how often at the course are you leveling how often you guys top dress and do leveling work um I guess I wouldn't really say um leveling as much as what kind of what we do um the greens it's kind of like a new program we're doing um to cause rest less disruption on the greens through the growing season um so we're actually now doing um it's a certain type of soil test it's called m246 um organic matter through different layers um and you measure your sand in your pounds per thousand send that to the lab they give you quantitative stuff they measure your organic matter and then they'll give you your or organic matter percent and how much sand you've put on to achieve that or how much more you need to put on to get it to where you want um so we're getting that number and we're trying to put in um enough sand during our spring ation and then maybe one top dressing midseason and then our fall ation to keep those numbers where we want them but also to keep the playability of the greens the best we can nice okay so as as little as you have to a little as as required like Yeah because it take it shut minimizes how often you have to shut down the course essentially to you know when you do that so cool all right James says uh too late to the party um can we start the call over uh no I mean you can watch it from the beginning though um okay Moon doggy says my yard is Fescue California the grass is starting to grow again is there a time when I should look to add product um so you had a Fescue laan when would you begin introducing fertilizer or uh yeah if it's starting to grow now and come out of dormy and you're getting good green up uh and the soil's thought out not frozen you're you're good to go okay cool um and then vavvi says what's a good sand for leveling the lawn for home owners um I probably say mostly mason sand if you can get it is probably your best best option yeah yeah Masonry sand river sand um if you can get USGA sand but it's more expensive um but but yeah and um yeah it's a new cultivar so um it's a iron cutter is a new Bermuda cultivar it says massive Roots developed in Oklahoma like tooma 31 so is it is it all so is all the good REM turf grass comes out of Oklahoma is that what we're hearing is that is that what it is all right guys so we are near the end of the show um let's give away a bag of carbonized PN all right so let me go through here and refresh this let's get the actually let me get sure get this if we can do this live uh can I share this Okay cool so let's copy this first and let's um let's reload it all right so paste that is last week's live stream and we are not allowing duplicates all right so we have 50 people that are here and you got to be present to win so our winner of the bag of carbonized PN the comment has to have carbonized PN in it we pick a winner and the winner is Jordan Rockwell 5873 if you are present um say I'm here we'll give you a couple of minutes to say you're here and then um if not we'll draw again um let's go back to adding to the live stream um yeah so if you're here uh Jordan Rock well 5873 say um you let us know and then we'll um we'll send you a bag we'll tell you how to you know claim a bag of carbonized PN which is good stuff all right next up is um teren says appreciate you both yeah no no worries um no worries at all and then um so you know interesting Deon so with you um so this it's it's funny how even though you work on a course like this you now is when you're really going to start with um with real mowing do any of the other folks that work on the course um are a lot of them into their lawns as well too or they're kind of like n once I'm done with the course I'm done with I hate turf grass I'm done um the superintendent at the North Course um Mark he's really into his yard which is pretty fun um and then our landscape manager bro um is into his yard and he actually took one of the real mowers home when I told him what I was going to do so he's he wants to try to do it do it as well so we're always spitballing ideas and he's always asking what I'm going to do and I'm asking how his stuff's looking so it's it's pretty fun nice nice very cool looks like Jordan is here so he saysi am here very cool Jordan so if you can please sir send me an email to Ron Golf Course where's my email address here he is Ron golf course.com it's on my forehead so send an email right here with your um with your address and we will get you a bag of carbonized PN so just say hey it's Jordan Rockwell from the live stream and you get a bag of uh of that good stuff courtesy of the nice Folks at Miramichi Miramichi green all right um we have a question a couple more questions um SJ says how many pounds of nitrogen does Kentucky Bluegrass need annually I do follow your sprays of s pounds annually and my sole sample constantly shows low nitrogen that's a lot of a lot of end um I was going to say you usually only four or five pounds is all that needs through a growing season so then my next question would be is what kind of nitrogen are you applying it's probably a quick release so it's probably really not getting down into the soil would be my guess so you just uh need to change your uh type of nitrogen so it's staying in the soil yep there you go SJ because yeah seven pounds sounds like I mean that that would be a lot for Bermuda so that's you know for kbg that seems like seems kind of high uh no name says Devon what's your typical offseason day for you at the course um an offseason day um let's see so I guess they're kind of two of them if it's like a snow day um we do snow removal so we do all the snow removal for the club property so we'll be doing that um and both Crews the North Course crew comes down and they help all all of us down at the main course um so we do we'll do snow removal and then if it's a regular regular day it's usually just uh like office work um building the theonomy uh programs and building our calendar for the upcoming year um conversations with the golf shop they'll send us um all the tournaments and outings and everything they have on the calendar for the upcoming season and then I'll take all those days and then I'll pluck in everything that we need to do um throughout the season so it's just a lot of planning um mechanics working on mowers grinding reels everything gets ready to go um it's pretty much once the season ends it's just a turnaround and then you're already starting for the next season planning for the next year yeah I think about that yes you get to plan all your your work also around events tournaments that kind of thing I can I could see that yeah yeah so usually by mid-February um they've had the golf shop has their calendar done um I finish our calendar and in February we already know what we're going to be doing in the end of August nice cool all right um we have a couple more questions James say great idea getting a course manager I like the idea any chance to getting a warm season and great spring prep like austa National um I'm not sure I understand the question you talking about like getting a golf super um that does warm season grass um I know a couple of people I don't know if they want to get on a live stream though I I have to see I I do know a couple of people but I don't know again I don't they want to be on video for a couple hours so um let me work on that James let me see what I can I can put together um AAR says can I substitute a heavy spread of carbon Pro G for car PN when it comes to top dressing uh you can but it's not they're different like one is a granular product one is like again if you look at what Devon did here with with carbonized PN um it's one is like a soil type product that lends itself well to being mixed with um with sand you know what I mean so um I mean can you in other words if your only option for getting introducing some organic material is carbon Pro yes I would do that um is it a substitute for carbonized PN for a top dressing mix I I don't I don't think so no I wouldn't I wouldn't say that that it is um but you know if that's all you can get um go with it all right couple more questions here guys is cats meow says good evening Soul report recommends three pounds um I I'm guessing per thousand square feet of 46 of 0 46 Z so a lot of f no yeah that's a lot which comes to up to 35 pounds I want to spoon feed it which comes up to 10 lbs how do you choose the correct Spreader settings those those numbers those numbers seem right no I yeah I would maybe look at your soil test I I don't think I've ever seen a soil test where they want you to put that much phosphorus down yeah that's a that's a lot of that's a lot of f um cats Meo yeah I don't I don't that that seems like yeah that's a lot because I mean I put how many pounds did I use on mine let's see here so I had put down where is that 1152 so my backyard got so this is an 1152 my backyard got 82 PBS total and the front yard got 043 pounds total which gave me half a pound of phosphorus and you saw how far that move the levels yeah that little bit did did that you know so you can look at you can see like the Foss is the second the second bar there and it's high yeah so um I I think maybe double check the Sol test results that seems that seems um that seems too high all right wise guy says hello Ron do you have a yard calendar on your website that I can use for purchasing um I can use SLP purchase for Bermuda um do I have a yard calendar that you can purch so yes you don't have to purchase it there's one that's just that's for free and it does work for Bermuda so I'll show you really quickly here if you go to off for lawn store go to resources and then go to Lawn Care schedule I'll link in the chat for you and then pick option five which is the monthly application schedule this for Bermuda warm season Turf grasses is probably more it is not probably it is better suited towards warm season grass and cool season grass from the standpoint that I talk about scalping which is not something you would do on a cool season lawn but everything from your your your scalping your soil test your pre-emergent app um your fertilizer app you know you know insecticide app fungicide so really you can follow this pretty well there's a lot of people that that aren't members of The Academy that just do this on their lawns and they get I get emails from them saying hey man if all your calendar and amazing great results so um for you having a Bermuda laon wise guy you could literally follow this and and it and it would work it would work well for you um so I'll send you a link to that here and it's free you don't to you have to buy it I mean the one that we have in the golf course laon Academy um is more details in this but I mean if you want something to to roll with I mean this is um this is a great a great way to go so there you go wise guy and then I think we are almost there um Jared says I have a patch of cool season under my tree from rookie mistake last year it was the first thing to Green up quicker than my dad's cool season grass what kind could it be Fescue R probably Rye you probably use Rye if you did it so could be ay could be Fescue could be could be any of them um um hard to say if you if you made an oopsie it's probably I would guess a a Ry grass um Jared um James says we're close let's get a few more likes so Ronan can sleep well tonight we have 106 people and only 116 likes yep we can that's we can bump it up a little bit more that would be great and then I think that is it guys and gals so we so again um Devon thank you so much for coming to hang out man I know it's been um we kept it a couple hours only two and a half hours and uh yeah um so again if people are visiting Colorado Springs want now as far as being able to play at your course you have to there's like a spa you can stay at or you can like I guess how does the person get to play your course have be a member or so uh yep so members obviously get to play um and then we have two lodges now um and you can stay and play okay so there you go so if you guys are out in Colorado Springs want to play a great course and you know you're a decent golfers you're not going to put big nasty divots in the course um go out to uh you know the club at flying horse and and you get to see deon's handiwork well cool uh Deon any last parting words anything else you want to chat about or um yeah I I don't think so that was a lot of fun we'll have to do it again uh maybe we'll plan it once I get the yard going and get it top dressed and kind of a little bit after that and show you guys the results of what I get going here this spring awesome awesome awesome awesome well guys again Q the outro music thank you guys so much for taking some time to hang out and uh chat with us tonight hopefully you guys got some value out of it had a lot of fun it was awesome having Devon on having a different perspective and someone that's an expert on cool season turf grass to uh help answer questions um we've got you know great products to help your lawn look as absolute best in the golf course lawn store so feel free to go there and and check us out and if as always if you need help with anything don't hesitate to reach out to us I hope you guys have an amazing amazing weekend take care thanks

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Length: 154min 11sec (9251 seconds)

Published: Sat Mar 09 2024