Lenovo's new Legion Pro 7i is WORSE?!

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Lenovo’s new Legion Pro 7i gaming laptop  is here, but they’ve actually downgraded   it and removed lots of nice features  compared to last year’s Legion 7i. My new Legion Pro 7i has Intel’s new 24 core 32   thread Core i9-13900HX processor  with Nvidia RTX 4080 graphics. The CPU, GPU, RAM and screen are all better this  generation, so it will offer more performance,   but almost every other part of the chassis design  takes a step backwards, so let’s compare them! This year’s model still has an aluminum  metal exterior with an anodized finish,   but it’s available in a darker onyx grey finish. This year’s version is slightly wider and thicker,   but not quite as deep, it’s only  a small size difference though.   The new one was 129 grams or almost 0.3  pounds heavier without the power bricks. Last year’s version had a big 300 watt power  brick, while this year’s has been bumped up   to a new 330 watt GaN charger, which  is actually smaller and lighter. This   helps close the weight gap a little, but  the new one was still a little heavier. The RGB lighting is far more subdued  this year. There’s still per-key RGB   lighting for the keyboard, but the front  light bar no longer wraps around the left   and right sides. The colors still  look pretty good in person though. There’s no more RGB lighting in the  air exhaust vents which I’m fine with,   and no lighting in the Legion  logo on the lid either. The lighting is still managed through  Lenovo’s Spectrum software and has 6   built in profiles which can be  customized just like before. The power button still lights up and changes  color based on which performance mode you’re in,   but it’s back to the simple dot design  found in the cheaper Legion 5 series. Yeah   it still does the job, but not only  did last year’s design look cooler,   it also had a fingerprint scanner  built in, so that’s gone this year too. For some reason they got rid of the lighting  over the rear port icons. I really liked this   in last year’s version, as it made it super easy  to see where to plug cables into in a dark room.   You had the option of turning it off if you  didn’t want it, but now it’s completely gone. Speaking of ports, the left side now has a USB  Type-A port and one Type-C with Thunderbolt 4   instead of two Type-C ports with Thunderbolt 4.  The right still has the 3.5mm audio combo jack   and a switch to disable the 1080p camera, but  the Type-C port has turned into a Type-A now. The back still has an ethernet port, but it’s  back to being upside down now. I’m told the   laptop would have to be thicker to support it  the other way. Fortunately it seems to sit high   enough off the table that I can still remove the  cable without lifting the laptop, but they also   downgraded it from 2.5 gigabit in 2022 to gigabit  in 2023. Otherwise the rest of the ports seem to   be the same, with USB Type-C, HDMI 2.1, two more  Type-A ports for 4 in total, and the power input. So this year’s model has two Type-C ports and  four Type-A ports, the inverse of what last   year’s had. But both of those Type-C ports  on the new model can be used to charge the   laptop with up to 140 watts, which is an  improvement compared to last year’s model   which only supported Type-C charging on  the one rear Type-C port with 135 watts. Unfortunately Lenovo still do not appear to  be using the power delivery 3.1 standard to   pull this off, as they note that it requires 20  volts and 7 amps, while PD 3.1 uses 28 volts and   5 amps. So this certainly isn’t ideal because  it means that a number of third party Type-C   chargers won’t be able to give you the full  140 watts with the new model. It’ll probably   still be limited to 100 watts, just like last  year, unless you get a special Lenovo charger. The touchpad is the same size as last year’s  version and still feels nice to click,   but it’s got a mylar or plastic surface now  compared to last year’s smoother glass finish,   and I also found it slightly louder to click. The keyboard feels the same to type on, so  still nice with the same 1.5mm of key travel,   but this year it’s got black keys, and the  pressure sensitive WASD keys are gone. I also   noticed that the newer model no longer has the  small air ventilation holes above the keyboard, so   it will be interesting if this affects thermals,  though air still comes in through the keyboard. The screen still goes the full 180 degrees back,   but the hinge design is different. Last year  the hinges were right on the outside edges,   now they’re a little closer into the middle,  and I also found that the screen on the new   model was stiffer to open, which  I preferred as it felt sturdier. We’ve still got the function plus R shortcut to  quickly swap the screen’s refresh rate between   240Hz and 60Hz to save battery, but there’s  still no option to make this automatically   happen when you unplug the power cable - a  nice feature others like ASUS and MSI offer. Just like last year, it’s still got a MUX   switch and the option of enabling or  disabling hybrid mode with a reboot,   or you can leave hybrid mode on and dynamically  change without rebooting with advanced optimus. The bottom panel wasn’t too hard to open,   despite the return of these plastic  side pieces around the air exhausts. Inside we’ve got the largest possible  99.9Wh battery down the front,   two PCIe Gen 4 M.2 SSDs just  above on the left and right sides,   two DDR5-5600 memory sticks in the middle,  and Wi-Fi 6E card on the right. There’s also   a vapor chamber cooler up the back  on the 4080 and 4090 configurations. The primary M.2 slot on the right  cannot fit my double sided 4TB SSD,   but it fit fine into the  secondary slot on the left. Although there’s a 99.9Wh battery, there’s  also a lower 80Wh battery option. The RAM can   apparently be overclocked to DDR5-6000 through  the BIOS, however mine didn’t have this option,   I think because I don’t have  6000 capable sticks with XMP. The BIOS gives us the option to change  the maximum fan from 50 to 55 decibels,   so faster and louder if you want more performance. The vantage software also adds a new custom  mode, which finally gives us some level of fan   control as well as the option to set the fans  to full speed. There’s also CPU and GPU power   limit adjustments, I’ve never seen so many GPU  power options available through software before! According to the spec sheet, the speakers  are the same as last year's version,   but I thought the newer one sounded  clearer with a little more bass. So then, when can you actually buy the new  Pro 7i? Well, Lenovo did release last year’s   Legion 7 series a bit later in the year, around  the middle if I recall, but I’ve been told that   they’re trying to change this and launch this  year’s model much earlier. Just for comparison,   I got this year’s early model in February but  I didn’t get last year’s early model until May. Actually while making this video, Lenovo’s site  updated to list it shipping from February 25th.   As for price, right now the US site has my same  configuration listed for $2750 USD, so not cheap,   but it’s still around $1000 less compared to  the RTX 4080 in the Blade 18 I recently tested. So then is this year’s Legion Pro 7i worth  considering? Well compared to last year’s Legion   7i, the new version is thicker and heavier,  the touchpad is plastic instead of glass,   the fingerprint scanner is gone, the rear port  icon lighting is gone, the pressure sensitive   WASD keys are gone, the ethernet port has been  reduced from 2.5 gigabit to gigabit and been   turned upside down, there’s just less RGB lighting  overall, and personally I just don’t think the   design looks a good. I don’t know, I just really  liked the brushed metal trim finish around the   edge of last year’s version compared to what this  year’s is doing. But of course that is subjective! At the end of the day, none of these changes  are super serious. It’s just that the Legion   7 series has been Lenovo’s premium gaming laptop  option with all the extra bells and whistles. So   it’s sad to see these nice to have extra features  removed. Especially when they’re adding the “pro”   name onto the model this year. I’d argue  that it’s less pro when you start taking   away features instead of adding them. The only  improvements I could see from this year’s model   are the smaller power brick, the sturdier  hinge and the better sounding speakers. The   Vantage software update to customize fan speed  and power limits really is the cherry on top So not sure if it will also apply to older  models. Although I’ve got no doubts at all   that the new faster CPU, GPU, RAM and screen  will offer better gaming performance than ever,   I think the actual chassis design is a  step back this year, which kind of makes   you wonder if they're saving all those high  end features for a new Legion 9 series or   something. Or maybe Nvidia’s new RTX 4080 and  4090 laptop GPUs are so expensive that Lenovo   had to make all these cuts just to keep the  price from going even crazier. I’m not sure. Unfortunately this is an early engineering  sample, so I can’t test things like thermals,   battery life or game FPS just yet as things could  change, but the final version isn’t far off! Subscribe so you don’t miss the full review,  and check this video next to find out how the   new RTX 4080 laptop GPU compares against the best  Nvidia had to offer last year, the RTX 3080 Ti!
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Channel: Jarrod'sTech
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Keywords: JarrodsTech, Lenovo, Legion Pro 7, Legion Pro 7i, Intel HX, Core i9-13900HX, 13th gen, Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 8, gaming laptop, Legion 7 2023, Legion 7i 2023, New Legion 7, 16IRX8H, RTX 4080, fan control, Lenovo Vantage
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Length: 9min 36sec (576 seconds)
Published: Fri Feb 10 2023
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