Lee Haney | Avoid Keto & Low Carbs | Nutrition Mistakes I Learned from Winning Mr. Olympia

so just going back then said uh um because we haven't gone around a little bit but the you had the year you predicted the change in the world of bodybuilding how did you go from there to the Olympia well um there's a stage you know uh when you hit the ifbb world championship and you win that one that's that's a worldwide amateur title you turn pro after that and then you receive the invitations for the Olympia and I was just smart to maintain the level of knowledge that I've gotten on my way up then why change things because when you go to another level you can always well now I'm in the big leagues let me do something different and see it don't necessarily have to be different because whatever gave you a level of success at this point will continue to do so yes you do want to add some science you know things that that make sense that can add to your successes you particularly nutrition wise and that's that's a big difference now do you have to change the training up but add to the nutrition because training for the first Olympia 1983 I peaked at 243 pounds four weeks before the contest Arnold saw me it's a while leave how you looking this good assume and you know I'm young my first Olympian I don't know I'm just looking good and I'm eating but come day of the uh come the day of the show I only weighed 233 pounds in order to solve that was weird for me being that kind of condition 243 10 pounds less you know four weeks later couldn't figure out what happened United Place third which was great in the first Olympia but I went back me and Dr Fred Hatfield sat down again and we went over all the meal plans all the he said Lee hey man you're just not eating enough you didn't eat enough went back to the drawing board entered the 1984 Mr Olympia 243 pounds I was that four weeks before in the 1983. but what I was learned at that particular point that you can't train like a horse and eat like a bird if you were giving more of a physical demand out of the body with aerobics extra sets and Reps here then he had to increase the food intake you know you can't you know what I had won the Nationals in the world championship from was okay you write your nutritional program and just amount of calories you own you stay on that all the way through the whole deal but the transition of Knowledge from 1983 to 84. showed me that listen your metabolic rate 16 weeks out from a show and the fact that you always kept your body fat around 10 11 percent meant that you could eat and not starve yourself because you you didn't walk around like a fat boy in all season so I kept notes on that so as I began to get closer to the show I would watch my weight as I saw a dip I was up the calories I ended up going from 3 000 to 4 700 calories up until a week before the Mr Olympia 1984. my body asks for more but at that point I was wise enough to give it more I had my notes I had science that made a difference and what do you think about all these diets because you're again through competitive bodybuilding you've had you know you've had the ultimate rip physique that everybody's dreaming for there's low carb diet says fasting there's all that stuff you know okay let me live this make a plan low carb is for fat boys if you look like a pokey pokey the pig in all season you're fat you got to burn this stuff off when you burn it trying to get rid of all the weight through aerobics and starvation your muscle is not going to have that that uh you know that life to it that life force where it looks great on stage and it's popping because you're aerobicing yourself to death and stress will show up on your physique you know it'll tear you up you know so my uh message has always been in bodybuilding as I share with young athletes always stay within Striking Distance train around no more than around 12 15 pounds over your con competition weight and if you pick let's say if you're 15 weeks out for me sure 16 weeks out if you're 15 body fat then guess what you can drop a percentage every week until you bottom out of about three percent or three and a half percent you're ready then and if you get there too quick then guess what increase the food intake but I don't believe in zero carbs I never had to do that I was a cop monster my calls would be four to five hundred grams of carbohydrates a day because I was never a fat boy see that's a different these guys get 40 and 50 60 pounds overweight and they have to just traumatize themselves eating chicken and green beans what kind of life is that it's terrible man it's ignorance right and and for people who are overweight then and don't want to get down then is there any sort of basic principles that you've followed yes matter of fact in my book fitted any age it's the same principles of eating that I that I recommend for people and shows and so forth never going to zero carbohydrate diet stay away from the keto you should never be a zero keto is crazy you know uh you can go low cost because when again when you're trying to get rid of body fat you want your muscle to feed on stored fat in the body so you have to keep the carbs low so the body will feed on that because you've got too many calls the body is going to feed on the coughs and the fat is going to stay where it where it's at so you have to be smarter knowing how to manipulate I recommend never going below 50 grams of carbs never going below 50 grams of carbs uh zero carbohydrates for me uh keto for me as you would want to call it keto we just said just lower your carbohydrates or carbohydrate depletion it was around 100 150 grams of carbs even when I was carbohydrate depleting and that only took that only happened three days prior to the competition not three days let's say uh we would go like Sunday Monday Tuesday and Wednesday I would carbohydrate load reload so during those three days of depletion I will only go as low as 100 100 grams of carbs I would never go zero and that's what all the other activity I got going on then I would carbohydrate load then go back up to four five six seven hundred grams of carbs two days to three days prior to the show right but you got to find out I talk about in my certification we've got to test that to find out does it take you two days to reload or one day to reload a bigger guy would take two days you know running cold will take about three if you want to use that science yeah so there's several different Sciences you can use with that but zero carb is a No-No right you know throw the body in the shock that's why we do it and the muscles over compensate when other sales overcompensate when you put the cars back in and that's why we want to hit the stage and we're full and the muscle and the veins is popping and even on another point when we do carbohydrate deplete we don't use bacon and cheese and garbage we use sunflower seeds we use almonds we use walnuts and so you hear out there now this so-called diet Community where these people are telling people to eat steak and use you know fats and cheese and which Jacks their cholesterol out of the roof total ignorance they have half truths they don't live and they haven't lived what we've lived and I say we we're in we're bodybuilders that's what we do we understand the science of food they don't they just read stuff and don't get it right and get a lot of people heard of living on statins yeah so thanks for that um it's cleared up a lot of things also got me thinking as well about about diet again um so 84 that was the first year you won the Olympia then was that right what was that like well man it's like a dream come true I mean golly winning a muscle Olympia it's a miracle in itself and uh you know to be there with on the same stage with uh Frank Zane and you know Robbie Robinson and Sergio Olivier was there wow wow you know that was absolutely incredible it was like a like a dream come true man you know you watch these guys at the magazine you grew up admiring them there you are standing on stage with them and to to be to be the winner and the victor wow thank you Lord and did what was it like going into that were you confident that you were going to be oh yeah previous year I weighed 243 of winning sure 233 I had went back and figured out through my nose and studied what had went wrong because no one has stepped on the Olympia stage at that weight then at that height you know so I knew that was a winning package and I I felt with all of my heart because I mean you size up your competition I always knew if I was a combination of Arnold Robbie Frank Zane Ed corny who can beat that and I felt that that's that's what I had achieved during my whole career not just for that one but during my whole career that's what I wanted to be like a combination of all of those gentlemen those awesome legends right and and they say certainly a lot of people we've interviewed and a lot of people with success always talk about the the group of people around them the the five closest people who were the people around you at that time well you know what uh as I trained for my shoulder that time uh for the whole Olympia reign of the first Olympia so which which are you asking the the first the first one you won what was the sort of you know who who are those people that was the sort of positive influence on you um to to get to that were you were you pretty much do it on your own or was there well you know my wife of my training partner at one time you know Shirley was always there she was my second grade sweetheart you know she would help spot me you know then when I moved to California I had those other huge kid you remember Ricky Wayne all right oh man Ricky Wayne was he was doing Arnold's error and Robert Robinson era Ricky trained out of a Gold's Gym in California and he introduced me to uh a kid there that was huge Italian kid named uh Rick and we ended up training together I mean Rick of Lou could move a lot of weight so he became my training partner when I moved to California and we would work out together uh the science of training and nutrition you know I had it had what I knew had gotten me where I was so I didn't go around looking for coaches we couldn't we didn't have coaches back then you had training Partners hey man how do I look today am I flat you know uh you know what's happening my definition coming in what am I posing look like so we would bounce ideas back and forth off of each other you know and uh and that that was our training partner we didn't have coaches I don't know why these guys use coaches today anyway it doesn't make sense to me you know so that was a huge influence my wife and my training partner there did you have any manager that was managing your sort of Affairs at that time my wife managed my Affairs and I Minister we didn't have to do that I mean if you don't know how to manage your own Affairs and shame on you you know to go to other levels outside of bodybuilding and management and doing that kind of deal okay but at that time it was strictly bodybuilding yeah so we had the best yeah yeah I had my wife there then he had a I had a great mentor in Joe Weider Joe and his wife are Betty just beautiful people love Joe still missing today he was always there another dear friend of mine was is the NPC president and pro league president Mr Jim mannion love Jim matter of fact it was Jim who helped me help negotiate my first guest appearance and I loved him all the way to today you know he's always been there anything I needed as it was with any of the bodybuilders coming up to the NPC ifbb Mr Mania was always there [Music] thank you

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Published: Fri Apr 28 2023