Lady Bird, Fences, and Why You Don't Need to Forgive Your Parents

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There's a scene in both the 2016 movie Fences  and the 2017 movie Lady Bird where both of the   child characters ask their parents a version  of the question "Why don't you like me?" In Lady   Bird the titular character portrayed by Saoirse Ronan says to her mom, "I wish that you liked me." In which her mother Marion portrayed by Laurie  Metcalf responds, "Of course I love you." Unsatisfied   Lady Bird asks her mom again, but do  you like me? Marion says, I want you to   be the best version of you that you can be, and  Lady Bird says, "What if this is the best version?" Leaving her mom Marion speechless. In Fences Jovan Adepo plays Cory, the 18 year old   son of Troy portrayed by Denzel Washington and asks the dad, "How come you ain't never liked me?"   In which Troy responds, "Like you? Who the hell said I got to like you? You eat every day." "Yes sir." "Got a roof over your head?" "Yes sir." "Got clothes on your  back?" "Yes sir." "Why you think that is?" "'Cause of you." "Hell I know it's 'cause of me,  but why do you think that is?" "'Cause you like me." "Like you?"  "I go out of here every morning, I bust my butt  putting up with them crackers every day 'cause I   like you? You about the biggest fool I ever saw. It's my job. It's my responsibility. A man is supposed to   take care of his family. You live in my house, fillyour belly with my food, put your behind on my bed   because you're my son, not because I like you, because it's my duty to take care of you. I   owe a responsibility to you! Now let's get this  straight right here now before it go along any   further. I ain't got to like you. Mr. Rand don't  give me my money come payday 'cause he like me. He give it to me cause he owe me! Now don't you go through life worrying about whether somebody like   you or not you best be making sure they're doing  right by you." "You understand what I'm saying boy?"  "Yes sir. "Then you get the hell out of  my face and go down to the A&P." *applause* He takes ownership as a parent and says you're  my responsibility, I bust my ass because it's my   job. And I don't like it, and most of the time if not all the time I don't really like you but I'm   going to do right by you. And I want you to respect yourself enough to not worry if people like you,   but that they do right by you. And though on the  surface the two movies do seem very different   as Fences about a poor Black family living in  Pittsburgh in 1957 and Lady Bird is about a poor   white family in 2002, they both are trying to do  the same thing, which is explain why parent-child   relationships are so messy. When Marion and Troy  are faced with a question of do they like their   children, they give very different answers. Marion has no idea what to say probably because she never   really thought about it before and honestly deep  down inside doesn't like this version of her child   and she is not okay with that feeling even though  it is completely natural to sometimes dislike   your own child. Troy of course gives his iconic  answer and I do really like what he has to say   here even though we later discovered that Troy is  a horrible parent, he doesn't live by his own words,   his son in turn fears him, he impedes his son's  dreams, but we're going to get into that later.   So in this video I want to explore the themes that Lady Bird and Fences present, the main one   obviously being complicated relationships between  children and their parents, and trying to answer   the question of why parent and child relationships  become strained and how parents can do better and   in Troy's words, right, by their children. Hey  everyone and welcome back to my channel! My   name is Cheyenne and I'm an Asian American adoptee  and expat living in Brazil. I post new videos about   pop culture, movies, tv shows, and look at their  themes and dissect them so if you're into that   please subscribe and ring the bell to be notified  every time I post a new video. And if you end up liking   this video please please please give it a like  and leave a comment, do both so this video gets   boosted and you help me with the algorithm.  So thank you so much and let's get started!  Before we get really deep into it however let me  first briefly explain the plot of each movie and   the themes they individually present before I put  them in conversation with one another. So part one   Fences. Fences is a movie based on August Wilson's  Pulitzer Prize winning 1985 play of the same name .  It was Denzel Washington's passion project and he  actually decided to use the screenplay Wilson wrote before his passing. The movie centers around Troy  Maxson, a once legendary baseball player for the   Negro Leagues, who is now a garbage truck driver, and his complicated relationship with his family,   particularly with his son Cory, his wife Rose Lee, portrayed by by Viola Davis, and his own father.   At the outset of the film Troy seems to be a  decent guy. He has his best friend who he's known   for years, he has a wife who he seemingly loves,  and though he's not the best parent in the world,   he seems to be trying his best. However as the  film progresses we see Troy's facade fade away   as he lashes out and impedes Cory from meeting  a football recruiter from the university of South   Carolina, threatens to kick him out of the house,  and later reveals to Rose that he cheated on her   and now his mistress is having his baby. Rose then  gives a very emotional and truly moving speech   about how she gave up everything for him because  that's what a wife is supposed to do and maybe she   wasn't happy about it but she thought they could  struggle together and she was willing to do that.   "You're always talking about what you  give and what you don't have to give,   but you take too Troy, you take and don't even know  nobody's givin'." She then talks about how she feels   betrayed how instead of Troy coming to her he  escaped into another woman's arms and she asks the   very real question "What about me Troy? What about  me?" Troy does admit to her that he was trying to   take the easy way out "stealing second base" if  you will, and Rose is not here for it thank god,  though she still does agree of course to raise  the baby after Alberta, Troy's mistress, dies in   labor. "You can't visit the sins of the father upon  the child." As Rose puts it, "but you a womanless man." However this is the last straw for Cory, who  tries to physically stand up to Troy and not just   because he cheated on his mom, but because he has  all this pent-up anger at his father for impeding   his football scholarship for making him feel as  though he has to walk on eggshells around him   and never knowing when Troy is going to  lash out or how he will react to things.   Cory has feared his dad for so long and also has  been trying to appease him for so long. Holding   down a job and being good in school, but none of  it is ever enough and he's sick of it, especially   after seeing what a hypocrite Troy really is, and  how kind of mentally unstable he is. So with all   this pent up anger Cory releases it the only  way men in society are taught to release anger,   through physical violence. However Troy attacks  him in a drunken rage almost killing his own son   and then finally kicks him out of the house for  good. Cory later joins the Marines and we only   see him again when it's time for Troy's funeral  in which he says to his mother he doesn't want to   go. Rose then slaps Cory and says that she's  made her peace with him, saying that you know   they didn't get along very well but she made  those choices and she needs to live with them.   Cory then explains to his mother how he felt  as though his dad's presence in the house was   like a shadow always following you around trying to crawl into you trying to get into your skin.   "The whole time I was growing up living in his house, papa was like a shadow that followed you   everywhere. It weighed on you and it sunk into your flesh. It would wrap around you until you couldn't tell which one was you  anymore. That shadow's digging into your flesh,   trying to crawl in, trying to live through  you." And he says and explains that he doesn't   want to go to the funeral because he finally  wants to stand up to his father and this is   really his last chance to do that. "I've got to say no to him. One time in my life I got to say-" "I don't   got to listen to that!" Rose responds with "Now I don't know if he was right or wrong, but I do know   he meant to do more good than he meant to  do harm." Which is fine, Rose can say her peace   and try to convince Cory all she wants, but in the end, it really isn't her decision to make.   But after meeting Raynelle, Cory's half  half-sister and the daughter of Alberta   who Rose has been raising, Cory breaks down and  cries decides to attend his father's funeral   and that's kind of the end of the movie. You'll  see this pattern a lot in these kind of child and   parent movies of the child needing to forgive  the parents at the end, which is honestly very   annoying because it's usually not the child that should feel guilty or should learn to let things go, it's usually the parent  that needs to do that. But I personally like to   believe that Cory isn't crying because he's  suddenly forgiving his dad, but rather because   someone who was close to him for a big part  of his life is now gone. And it's fine that   Cory can feel resentful for his parent and even  hate him, but also still be sad that he's gone.   It's not either or and that's what I really like  about Fences. Now one thing in the movie that iI  didn't really bring up, which is a big part of the  movie, is tToy's relationship with his own father.  "Daddy ain't had no walking blues, but you know man, he stayed right there with his family, but he was   just as evil as he could be." In one scene Troy explains his backstory, his relationship with   his father, and how his father was the reason  why he had to leave home at 14 and live on the   streets. Troy explains how his dad only saw him as another pair of hands to help out with the farm   and also as someone to beat on whenever he  saw fit. He then adds however that he tried   to beat up on his own dad for trying to rape  his 13 year old girlfriend, but of course as a   child himself his dad overpowered him and after  that he ran away and never saw his father again.   Troy is I think somewhat aware that he's doing  the same thing to his own kid, making him afraid   of him, pushing him away, beating on him, but I also think that he thinks that just because he's   not a sexual predator or not as abusive as his  own dad that he's doing a good job as a parent.   A lot of parents set a very low bar  for themselves in order to not be   bad parents or at least see themselves as bad  parents because since the bar is so low how   can they really fail? But kids need more than the  bare minimum, which is why Cory gets so angry. More   importantly, the real function of Troy's backstory  is to not only make us understand him more as an   adult and realize where all this abuse might have stemmed from, but also to illustrate   intergenerational trauma. When Cory talks about  how he felt as though his father's presence was   like a shadow trying to crawl into you trying  to get into your bones or your soul, he's really   talking about the intergenerational trauma. The  trauma that Troy faced as a child trying to enter   him, but he's not going to let it. Cory's not going  to let the trauma he faced as a child or the trauma   that his dad faced as a child you know impact  his life, he's going to break the cycle of abuse.   He's not going to let it manifest in him and sit in there and make him lash out at people or angry   he's going to, like I said, break the cycle of abuse because Cory is self-reflective something that   his dad isn't. He's conscious of the world around  him. He knows that his dad doesn't want him playing   football because he doesn't want his son to outdo  him, and though Troy may impede his scholarship   because he's trying to protect him, that's not his  choice to make. Cory realizes what's going on at   home at a very young age, which is why he asks  the do you like me question. He can sense that his   dad needs some type of help and he tries to make  him happy and proud, but can't because Troy needs   therapy and a child's purpose is not to fill their  parents emotional gaps. Cory is just trying to do   what most kids of struggling parents do, trying to  go out into the world, leave their small town, and   make a name for themselves. They try to leave the lower class, and in the end corey does   that. Maybe in spite of his father and also having  this need to not end up like him. And though Rose   says that Troy will always be a part of Cory and  that Cory is very much like Troy, he really isn't.   And that's okay. Kids don't always need to end up  like their parents, especially if they were toxic.   And kids not trying to end up like their parents  or trying to diverge from their parents paths and   having resentment towards them isn't because they  actually secretly love them or that all this hate   is actually a manifestation of love because that's  really not how love should work. Rather love and   hate can exist at the same time and that's how  Cory feels and that's valid. As Odie Henderson   put it in his review for rogerebert.com, "Fences is  a film about how our environment shapes us and how   no matter how noble their intentions our parents  can't help but mess up in some fashion just as   their parents have done for them. This is our  legacy as humans, either we indoctrinate ourselves   against which we saw what's wrong with our parents  or we catch their disease and pass it on." So part   two Lady Bird. Similar to Fences Lady Bird is a  movie about a child and parent who don't get along,   except they're white, living in 2002, and it's about  a daughter and her mother rather than a father and   son duo. Lady Bird also known as Christine to her  parents wants to go to a college on the east coast.   However her mom doesn't want her to because of money and also because she doesn't think Lady Bird   is good enough to get in. So Lady Bird, offended at  this and also know that bringing it up   again will just lead to another fight, she applies  to east coast schools behind her mother's back.   We see Lady Bird grow and mature throughout  her senior year of high school. She loses her   virginity, falls in and out of love, and reconciles  with her best friend who she abandoned for almost   an entire semester when trying to become popular.  She also fights with her mom a lot. "Mom!" "You can't   even pass your driver's test!" "Because you wouldn't  let me practice!" "This isn't right. We can't treat   our clothes like this. I don't know what your  wealthy friends-" "Why do you care what I do to   my clothes?" "If you need to use two towels you just have to say because this affects my whole   day because I have to do laundry before work." "The  eggs are not done." "Fine make your own [ __ ] eggs!"  "I wanted to, you won't let me!" "Do you have any idea  what it cost to raise you and how much you're just   throwing away every day?!" Marion is always telling  Lady Bird about how they're poor how they can't   afford things, but when Lady Bird tells her friends  that they're poor and they can't do this or that   her Marion suddenly becomes offended. "Wrong  side of the tracks!" "I didn't mean it that way it was a joke." "Yeah it's just a joke." Or when Lady Bird doesn't clean up her clothes this instant   her mom goes on this whole rant  about how Lady Bird is disrespectful   and only cares about herself. Lady Bird and  marion's relationship fluctuates throughout   the film. Sometimes they're at each other's throats,  other times they are having a great day together,   and they never reconcile after the fighting  parts, life just goes on. It's realistic and you   can see the tension that you have on screen even when they're just standing next to one another.   You can feel the resentment closing in on around you as you're waiting for the other shoe to drop.  Later it's revealed that Lady Bird's father,  who is a lot more respectful of her, knocks   on the door before entering her room, "How'd you know it was me?" "Mom doesn't knock." has depression.   Lady Bird finds this out and it's a real loss of innocence moment and I really appreciate this part   being in the film because I don't think we talk enough about how parents have mental illnesses   and how that affects their children. And of course Marion being the controlling person that she is   uses her husband's depression in order  to make Lady Bird feel guilty about   wanting to go to the east coast. "No Larry you  can't just be the nice guy! She has to know.   She has to know how you feel otherwise she's just gonna think she can say anything at all   and nobody ever gets hurt." Marion is not a good  parent nor can communicate very well with Lady Bird   because they both are unsure of one another. They  see each other through this warped lens of mother   and daughter instead of just two human beings.  And of course the reason why Marion can't let   Lady Bird go is because she's afraid of losing  her like any parent, but has like an irrational   fear of losing her and not only that but because Marion has wrapped up so much of her identity   in this being that she cannot fathom losing her. When it's revealed that Lady Bird has applied   to east coast schools and is actually going to one  Marion completely shuts down. She basically acts as   though Lady Bird is dead to her which is extremely  immature and annoying behavior, but again it's   realistic. Many parents are not mature enough to handle the fact that their child is an independent   human being separate from them that has their own  inspirations own interests and you know own life.   The best version of Lady Bird to Marion is probably  a child that just sits down and shuts up and obeys   and has all the same interests and disinterests  as her, but if you think that your kid is going to   be exactly like you or never have a mind of their  own I have a big surprise for you. Your kid doesn't   exist to please you, to fulfill your emotional  needs, nor exist to give you a purpose in life. Your   child will not complete you and you need to have  other interests besides your child because if you   don't your child will consume you and you will not  be able to handle the fact that they are going to   leave you eventually just like how Marion  reacts by pretending that Lady Bird is dead when   she tells her that she's going to the east coast.  A lot of parents don't realize this and we get   relationships like we see in Lady Bird where both  parties think badly of the other because of these   false expectations society gives us of motherhood  or parenthood in general. By the end of the film   Marion regrets her actions and does try to make  things right, but she's too late. And in the end   it's a Lady Bird that has to go make the call  and do the work and that's not right. Marion   never apologizes for being so controlling,  for belittling her daughter's intelligence,   for criticizing her friends, nothing. I personally really dislike the ending of the movie,   but it is realistic and I get why it ended that  way. To suggest another movie I prefer, Bad Moms 2 because in that movie the mom actually has to apologize and realize that she's messed up and I   think that's something that's really rare that  we don't see a lot in these kind of parent-child   movies. Most movies do end with this message of  filial piety. Respect your parents, forgive   them, when the message should really be you know  parents should grow and evolve with their children   rather than staying set in their ways and being  stubborn and you know being like this is my   house so sit down and shut up. So part three  shared themes. So now let's put the films in   conversation with one another. The first theme I want to bring up is one that I already talked   about when talking about Fences and that  is intergenerational trauma. In Lady Bird   we learn that Marion's mother was an abusive  alcoholic. "My mother was an abusive alcoholic." That's the only time she talks about her mother, but we can probably guess that she wasn't an   easy person to live with. We see that Marion was  able to break the cycle that her mother started.   She's not physically abusive at least, though she's  emotionally abusive, but she is a responsible adult.  She takes care of the household. She's the only  working parent since her husband has depression   and got fired, and she even opens their home to  a girl who was kicked out of her home which is   Lady Bird's brother's girlfriend, so we can see that  she's actually a decent  person. "She has a big heart your mom." But Marion, like most parents, isn't very self-reflective. She doesn't understand how her overbearingness  is affecting her child, about how her controlling   nature is affecting her child, and she doesn't really see things that she's doing wrong   or things that she could be doing better. In the end Marion is totally inflexible. For example Lady Bird uses two towels for her shower and because  it's laundry day and Marion didn't know that she   used two towels she says that Lady Bird just ruined her whole laundry schedule, and it's   something so benign but it drives Marion up the wall. She doesn't even let Lady Bird make   her own breakfast because she's just going to  f it up anyway. And there's a scene where Marion   wants to want Ladybird to clean her room this  instant when doing it tomorrow morning would be   just as fine. And Troy's the same type of  way with Cory. His chores must be done   now. It's like always now or never with these types  of parents when 30 minutes or even a few hours   won't make much of a difference, but parents who do  have these sorts of time ticks of things needing   to be done now or never usually have something  that they're going through that they should be   working out in therapy but instead they take it  out on their child, either because like Marion   and troy they don't want their children to  turn into delinquents like their parents were,   or because they want to exert their parental  control and sometimes both. Making your kid do   something now is literally just a show of parental  power unless it's something that like you know   needs to be done actually now, um but if it can be  done like 30 minutes from now or an hour from now   and you just tell your kid once they'll probably  be sure to do it and remember to do it you just   need to trust them. But by constantly enforcing  that you have to do this now or I'm going to lose   my [ __ ] and rage about it for days, will only  give your child anxiety anxiety about chores and   doing chores, and also about you. They're going to  end up like Cory, being afraid to talk to you about   things or bringing things up because they know that  you explode at the littlest thing. Kids shouldn't   have to fear their parents. They shouldn't seize up  inside when they hear your footsteps but so many   kids do feel this way because their parents walk  around like ticking time bombs. Rather than parents   being reflective and maybe realizing that the  chore can wait or maybe that they're traumatizing   their child by being so needlessly demanding  most parents will chalk their kids unwillingness   to do chores to laziness or stupidity which is  extremely toxic. I cannot stress this enough, if   your kid feels uncomfortable around you it's your  fault! Parents mess up that's fine, that's normal,   that's natural. Parents aren't perfect. There's not one single parent in the world that is perfect, but   because parents are not perfect you need  to do the work and you need to be able   to be self-aware enough to realize that you might  have a lot of mental work to do and you need to   be conscious as to why that is. Doing self-work  and opening yourself up and being vulnerable   and you know realizing that you can make mistakes  and that you need to own up to those mistakes will   only better your relationship with your child. The worst thing you can do is blame them, blame   their friends, say your brother doesn't feel  that way, because news flash kids are not a   monolith! I'm not saying that kids know everything  or that kids are perfect angels all the time they   obviously are not and they need to be guided and  educated properly, but if you're just going to   berate them until they do something now because  you don't think that they're capable enough to   do it later or you don't trust them enough to  do it later and you just think that they're   you know incapable of doing things that you tell  them to then you are setting yourself up for   failure. So the next theme I want to talk about is  age and guilt. Marion and Troy both dismiss their   children because they're younger, and as you know  older people they know better. Firstly being older   doesn't mean you have more life experience nor  that you know better or are more mature because as   we see in both Fences and Lady Bird the parents in  the movies are very socially inept and emotionally   inept and emotionally stunted. They don't know  how to communicate properly because of their   abusive upbringings, but they don't really try to  work on that either or are self-reflective enough   or self-aware enough or self-conscious enough  to realize that they're doing the same thing   to their kids or that they're hurting their  kids because of this. And of course it's not   all on them. They have really tough jobs Troy's  a sanitation worker and Marion is a nurse so   it's really hard for them to find the time to you  know be self-reflective and be better parents but   if they really wanted to be better parents they  should have made the time to listen to their kids.   But of course they don't because that would mean admitting that they've made mistakes and they're   definitely not going to do that, so instead they  chalk it up to age as to why they don't get along.   So many times you hear parents say oh you'll get  it when you're older or I can't wait till you're   older and it's like? And of course parents say this  because they think that with age time will harden   their child and they will be just like them, but in reality we see that with time Cory actually   diverges a lot from his father and  becomes you know a better person than his father   could ever be because he's conscious and aware  of the abuse he faced and is sure not to repeat   the cycle. So now let's talk about guilt. Both Troy  and Marion make their children feel guilty about   pursuing their life outside of their  family and also by bettering themselves   through education. And Rose from Fences of course  makes Cory feel guilty about not wanting to   attend his father's funeral, when again that's not  her choice to make. Parents should never make their   kids feel guilty for existing or for wanting  their independence, but so many parents can't   handle the fact that their child is growing up  and instead they decide to smother them. They do   it under the guise of I know better because I'm older, and also make you feel guilty by saying   why do you hate me, why do you hate your family, why  do you want to leave me, when you just want to have   your own life because you're growing up and you're  a human being and that's fine. I think one of the   biggest reasons why parents and children don't  have good relationships is because parents usually   you know just don't respect younger people. They see younger people as immature, lazy,   stupid, and if you have that view of young people  you probably shouldn't be a parent. You need to   be able to grow and change and evolve with your  child in the stages that they're at, and if you're   not able to see young people as capable human  beings then you will just be a bad parent. And   you definitely shouldn't expect your child to  just automatically respect you because you're   older than them and you say that you know more  because they probably will not go along with that   and you also need to be doing more than the bare  minimum. Just because you go above and beyond on   certain days of the year doesn't mean that you  know the other 360 days of the year don't matter.  If you're still disrespecting your child, not giving them the space they need, or you know   giving them your trust, it's all for naught. Because  the other 360 days of the year is what they're   going to remember. They're not going to remember  the big public displays of affection that you   did for them but rather how you reacted when you  told them you wanted to go to school on the other   side of the country, or when you told them that you  wanted to start learning how to drive, or when you   had to call them to pick you up from a friend's  house. That's what they're going to remember   and you need to be able to react accordingly and  be sure not to lash out on those you know other   days of the year when it's not their birthday or  it's not Christmas because that's what matters.   Did you yell at them did you try to make them feel guilty, did you try to dissuade them, did you   tell them that they didn't know any better because  you're older and therefore wiser, or did you let   them feel heard? Did you put on that brave face that  parents have to put on? Did you make your   kid feel valued? And that's what really matters. We know what bad parents look like, just look at Troy   and Marion, but what does good parenting look  like? When I think of a movie that actually has   good child and parent lessons in it I think of  the Freaky Friday remake from the early 2000s because in that movie they show that  it takes two to tango. The child needs   to learn, but also the parent needs to learn,  and they're able to reconcile because they   learn to both respect each other as human  beings rather than as mother and daughter.   Now let's talk about gratitude and privacy. Your kid will not be grateful for everything you do   and you need to be okay with that. There's one scene in Lady Bird where she throws away her   her lunch that her mom made for her in favor of a  lunch that her friend's boyfriend makes and it's   assumed that she throws away the lunch that her  mom makes for her every single day and you know   I think that that's a bad thing. Like I don't think  that kids should be throwing away their lunch,   but she's also not comfortable enough to tell her  mom that she doesn't want to eat the food that   she makes her because she knows that her mom will  probably explode at her, so instead Lady Bird just   doesn't tell her, throws the lunch away every day,  and eats another lunch instead because she knows   that that's the path of least resistance. And in the end you have to kind of understand   that. Also kids did not ask to be brought into this world. We exist simply because you willed it   into existence. And we're here now so you need to  be able to deal with that. And it's more   again than just doing the bare minimum, more than  just feeding, clothing, and housing your child but   it's also about giving them respect seeing them as  people every single day. And it's important to note   that treating your kid with respect doesn't mean that they're going to suddenly tell you everything   or that you're going to be best friends, but  rather that they should still get privacy   and that you also need to be okay with that and  you shouldn't be nice and respectful to your   child just because you think that they're going to  tell you everything because then you're still not   actually respecting them! Kids deserve privacy.  Everyone deserves privacy and your kid is no   different. If you're a type of parent that tries to  hack into your child's phone or read their diary   you're doing it wrong! Let your kid have space. It's not easy you know. I'm not here to say that   it's easy and these are really hard words to live  by but you need to give your kids space. You need   to give them privacy otherwise they for sure  will never come to you with anything. And being   selfless and unconditionally loving and trusting  of your child is not easy, but parenting is not   easy and you need to put on that brave face and  get through it because if you don't your kid will   be the one to suffer. So the next theme  I want to talk about is wrapping yourself up too   much in your child that you lose yourself. In both films we can see that the parents have very little   outside of their family and outside of their  children. Both of these parents have no outlet   to release the anger they feel at life or at you  know individuals, and that's a problem. And it's   really sad for Troy because the one thing that he was good at he's not good at anymore! Marion   on the other hand has nothing outside of her job,  which is of course really hard and time-consuming,   and you know she has a good relationship with  her husband but that's still not you know what   she really focuses her time in. She really just puts everything into this one child and it kind   of destroys her. I understand that as parents you need to wrap yourself up in your kids life,   but as they get older, especially as both of  their children are 18, they need to   not be as involved and they need to learn to  step away. I promise you the kids are all right!   You need to get your own hobby outside of your  kid. I don't know what it is, or what it's going   to be, but you need to think bigger. Your child will not be with you forever and you need to be   able to invest in other interests so when your  child does eventually leave you don't break   down. And it's not easy again, especially you know  with all the dangers in the world of course it's   you know normal to have a healthy feeling  of anxiety around your child when they   leave, even just to go to a friend's house, that's normal you know, to worry about them,   but if it becomes unhealthy, if it becomes all you  think about, if it becomes an obsessive thought,   then you need to seek help. So yeah if you don't  take anything else away from this video it is to   get a hobby outside of your children because they  will not be with you forever and you know you need   something to release stress, release anger, something  that brings you joy, something that makes you feel   independent, because it's so easy to lose yourself  in the life of your child, that you know having   that hobby there will really help when coping  with parenting as a whole. So let's move on to the   next theme, you don't need to forgive your parents!  So there was a viral tweet that went around last   year that was like "I don't know who needs to  hear this, but forgive your parents." And it's like? If you can't forgive your parents that's okay. If you need to cut them off from your life for   whatever reason that's valid, and that's fine.  And if you still have a relationship with your   parents but it's strained, but you come to the  decision that you still want them in your life,   that's valid too. Everyone has different  relationships with their parents   and you know no one should be telling anyone  that you need to forgive them. It's okay to have   messy feelings about your parents, to love and hate  them simultaneously, I mean Cory does. We see that   he's sad that his dad is dead because of course  he loves him but he also hates him for what he   did to him and that's fine. We live in this world  where it's either or and sometimes it is either   or, but sometimes it's somewhere in the middle and  we need to realize that and know that that's okay.   So the second to last point I want to make  is about labels. The labels we put on you know   family dynamics or family roles such as mom, dad,  daughter, son, you know they carry a lot of weight   to them. Like in the speech that Troy gives to Cory, when he calls him you know, "You're my son."   "You are my son." That just carries so much weight  with it and so much societal expectation that   it's a really heavy term that a lot of people  tend to internalize. We see that with Rose, her   being a wife is something that she's internalized  so much that she needs to be you know   society's version of a perfect wife that she  doesn't even really know who she is anymore.   "Wherever you was going I was gonna be  there with you because you was my husband! 'Cause that's the only way I was gonna survive  as your wife." And this kind of internalization   obviously is dangerous because you start to see  people not as people, but as what their label   dictates, which gives you false expectations of the other person and sometimes of yourself. Like Rose   for example, or if you're a child you know this  kind of internalization of being a daughter or   son either makes you revere your parents because  they're your parents and they have these very   strong labels of mom and dad or it makes you not  want to be like them because they're not living up   to your expectations and you can never live up to  theirs. The best thing we can do with these labels   is to you know just see them as words rather than  all of these things that society puts on them you   know. They're the people that take care of you yes, they're your mom and your dad, but you know that   doesn't mean anything? It just means  that they are someone who's taking care of you   who identifies either as a man or a woman and that's it really. And you're a child   and that just means that you're being taken care  of or that you're you know legally under 18 or   whatever. We just cannot put this much  weight into these labels because it really tears   people apart. So the last thing I want to talk  about is kids not wanting to be like their parents.   And kids not wanting to be like their parents usually stems from the fact that they have a bad   relationship with them, simple as that. And usually kids that do want to be like their parents usually   had a positive relationship with their parents and  this "good relationship" with your parents seems to   depend on so much, but it really just depends on just a few things - kindness, respect, and love.   I think the best praise for any parent is when their child says that they want to be like them   because you know you cannot be doing be doing any  better than that if your kid says that you want to   be like you. That's just it. But unfortunately so many kids do not want to end up like their parents.  They usually go in the total opposite direction because they have bad relationships with them   because those three little things are not there.  The respect isn't there, the kindness isn't   there, the love isn't there, and those little  daily affirmations, those little things like   like I'm here for you or it's okay, just you  know again they're not there they're absent   and that matters. Every single day your  kids should know that you're there for them   and a lot of kids don't get that. Instead kids  like Cory and Lady Bird are afraid to tell their   parents things because they're unpredictable.  Because you know they've reacted so badly in   the past to other little things how are they going  to react to this, so they keep things to themselves   and in turn resentment grows secrets are discovered and it all goes to [ __ ]. But that   doesn't mean that they have a bad relationship you  know 100 percent bad, but you know it is something   that makes them not want to be like their parents  and you know that's also not very good either,   but again not saying that because you  want to be like your parents means that   they're the best parents ever either, but it is  definitely a huge compliment. So my final thoughts.  So if you haven't seen Fences or Lady Bird I highly suggest that you watch them and check them out.  Fences is definitely a longer one to sit  through, but it is emotionally rewarding and   there's some just great writing in the movie so  go check it out. Lady Bird is a lot shorter, it's   only like 90 minutes, but it packs a punch, it  packs a punch. And yeah so go check them out. I   hope you enjoyed this video about parent-child  relationships and how you know people can be   better parents. I gave a lot of advice in  this video so hopefully you know take it to heart   and yeah that's it. I just wanted to say that I'm not a parent, so I only know   half the story, but you know I think that as kids  we should have a say in how our parents parent.   So just throwing this out here. These are  just my observations, my opinions, my thoughts.   Please subscribe and ring the bell to  be notified every time i post a new video   and please please please if you like this  video give it a like, leave a comment, do both   so the video gets boosted, so yeah thank you  so much and I'll see you all in the next one bye!
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Channel: Cheyenne Lin
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Published: Fri Feb 26 2021
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