>> PLEASE WELCOME TO THE STAGE
KRIS JENNER WITH CAROLINE HYDE. ♪ CAROLINE: THANK YOU. KRIS: GOOD MORNING. CAROLINE:
WHAT A JOY TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS YOUR BUSINESS, YOUR
SUCCESS IN CONTENT. WE JUST WANT TO SPEND ONE
MOMENT THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE -- ABOUT HOW HEAVY YOUR
HEARTS ARE. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN SPEAKING
TO FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON BETWEEN ISRAEL
AND HAMAS. KRIS: IT IS HORRIBLE, DEVASTATING
TRAGEDY AROUND THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. EVERYONE HAS A LOT OF FEAR.
I THINK THAT JUST TO AMPLIFY WHAT KIM SAID YESTERDAY IS THAT
OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH EVERYONE RIGHT NOW.
LIKE SHE SAID, CHECK ON YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR FAMILY.
ANYBODY WHO MIGHT -- I KNOW SO MANY OF OUR FRIENDS ARE FEARFUL
AND IT IS HARD. IT IS TOUGH. CAROLINE:
YOU HAVE BUILT A POWERFUL SET OF MORE THAN 20 COMPANIES THAT
YOU ARE INVOLVED IN. YOU HAVE KEPT YOUR FAMILY CLOSE
AT ALL STAGES. WE BROUGHT EPA AS -- HOW MUCH
WAS YOUR CONNECTION WITH PEOPLE BROUGHT ULTIMATELY FROM THE
EARLY DAYS AND CHILDHOOD? KRIS: I STARTED WORKING AT MY
GRANDMOTHER'S STORY WHEN I WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD. THE DNA THAT I HAD IN ME AT A
YOUNG AGE -- I GREW UP AS A PEOPLE PLEASER AND I WANTED
EVERYBODY TO BE HAPPY AND PROUD OF ME.
WHEN YOU START WORKING AT A YOUNG AGE, I WAS IN CHARGE.
I GRANDMOTHER HAD A CANDLE STORE AND I WAS IN CHARGE OF
THE GIFTWRAPPING STATION. I WAS WORKING ALL SUMMER WHEN
MY FRIENDS WERE AT THE BEACH. I THINK OVER THE YEARS OF DOING
THAT AND GRADUATING TO THE CASH REGISTER AND INTERACTING WITH
CUSTOMERS AND BUILDING MY ENTREPRENEURIAL LIFE'S, I THINK
YOU DO LEARN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FINESSE WITH YOUR AUDIENCE,
YOUR CUSTOMER, TALKING TO PEOPLE AND COMMENCING SOMEBODY
HAS TO BUY SOMETHING. YOUR PAYCHECK SOMETIMES
INVOLVES HOW MANY SALES YOU MADE THAT MONTH.
AND IT KIND OF DEVELOPED A LITTLE BIT OF MY COMPETITIVE
SPIRIT BECAUSE I WANTED TO WIN AND MAKE EVERYBODY PROUD OF MY
FAMILY. THE INSPIRATION AND WATCHING
THESE WOMEN GET UP EVERY SINGLE DAY AND GO TO WORK, THAT WAS
OUR WAY OF LIFE. MY FAMILY, WE ALL WORKED, AND
THAT WAS HOW IT WAS DONE. I DID NOT KNOW ANY DIFFERENT. MY MOM, TO THIS DAY -- SHE IS
ALMOST 90 AND SHE TALKS ABOUT HER WORK LIFE AND HER CAREER,
ALL THE TIME BECAUSE SHE LOVES TO TALK AND WE REMINISCE.
SHE TELLS THE SAME STORIES OVER AND OVER.
SHE LOVES THEM COME ABOUT HER LIFE, AND HER STORES. >> THERE WAS THE WORK ETHIC AND
THEN COMES THE POWER PERSUASION AND THE NETWORK THAT HE BUILT.
WHO DID YOU BUILD THEM FOR -- FROM? >> I THINK I WAS AROUND SO MANY
POWERFUL PEOPLE MY ENTIRE LIFE, FROM THE TIME I GOT MARRIED TO
ROBERT KARDASHIAN -- THERE WAS A WHOLE LINE OF PEOPLE RUNNING
STUDIOS. IT WOULD BE THE HEAD OF THE
STUDIO AND PAYING ATTENTION WITHOUT REALLY REALIZING I WAS
PAYING ATTENTION. I HAD AN AMAZING EDUCATION.
I WAS A HOUSEWIFE AND I WAS RAISING FOUR KIDS AT HOME.
IT WAS A BLESSED SITUATION BUT ALSO SURROUNDED BY BUSINESS
SITUATIONS THAT I DID NOT EVEN REALIZE WERE HAPPENING RIGHT IN
FRONT OF ME, BUT I MUST HAVE BEEN ABSORBING IT BECAUSE SOME
LEADTIMES, I BROUGHT UP IN MY MIND ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS
THAT I HAD LEARNED FROM. I THINK I HAD A VERY LUCKY AND
BLESSED EXISTENCE THAT WAY BECAUSE IT BROUGHT ME TO SOME
OF THE LESSONS THAT I LEARNED. WHAT I LEARNED WAS BEING ABLE
TO TAP INTO SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES AND BUSINESS
RELATIONSHIPS THAT I HAD, IF YOU LOOK AROUND, SOMETIMES YOU
DO NOT REALIZE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
I AM SOMEONE WHO LOVES TO LEARN SOMETHING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I LOVE TO REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE.
EVEN IF I DO NOT KNOW SOMEONE, IF THEY HOLD THE KEY TO SOME
MAGIC THAT I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN ABOUT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM
CALLING SOMEONE UP AND A, CAN WE HAVE COFFEE OR LUNCH?
I AM STUCK AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
I NEED A LITTLE HELP. CAROLINE: DID YOU CALL ON THAT MAGIC WITH
HULU, FOR EXAMPLE? DO THEY COME TO YOU NOW IN THIS
INBOUND MOMENT, HAVING CHRIS IN YOUR CAREER?
-- CHRISTIAN NODE YOUR CREATE -- CRESCENDOED YOUR CAREER?
KRIS: 20 SEASONS, OVER A DECADE OF
DOING BUSINESS. WE HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
FRIENDSHIP AND RELATIONSHIP. I THINK IT WAS TIME TO HAVE A
NEW CHAPTER. MY FAMILY REALLY WANTED TO TRY
AND TAKE A STAB AT THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FEATURE IN OUR
MIND. WE WANTED TO ELEVATE WHAT WE
WERE DOING AND STREAMLINE THE SHOW AND HAVE A NEW AUDIENCE.
NOW IT IS HULU AND DISNEY PLUS AROUND THE WORLD. THE SHOW HAS BEEN ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND SO MANY LANGUAGES. THAT TRANSITION FOR US, WE WERE
VERY LUCKY BECAUSE WE KEPT THAT AUDIENCE AND BE GAINED NEW
FRIENDS. WE STILL HAVE A WONDERFUL
RELATIONSHIP. THEY ARE STILL AIRING SOME OF
OUR SHOWS. IT IS A MUCH BRYANT -- A MUCH
BROADER AUDIENCE. CAROLINE: IT WAS NOT LUCK THAT BROUGHT
YOU TO SEEING WHAT YOU HAD NOT SEEN AT THE TIME, A CHAMPION
THAT YOU WERE MARRIED TO AND YOU HAD TO LEAN ON THAT
RELATIONSHIP AND THEN HE LEANED INTO INFOMERCIALS AND
TELEVISION . HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO
SEE WHERE THE CONSUMER IS GOING? >> I LIKE TO LEAN INTO
OPPORTUNITY AND I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT THING COULD
LOOK LIKE. THOSE DAYS, WE HAD BILLS TO PAY
AND HOW IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN? I HAD TO REALLY FIGURE IT OUT.
WHEN I CREATED KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHIANS AND BROUGHT IT
TO RYAN SEACREST, THEY SAID YES AND THEN 30 DAYS LATER WE WERE
FILMING. I WAS VERY PERSISTENT ABOUT THE
DIRECTION THAT I KNEW I WANTED TO GO IN BUT IT TAKES A VILLAGE.
WHAT IS WHEN I SAY LUCKY, I FEEL LUCKY. THE OPPORTUNITY I CAN EXTRACT
THIS AMAZING CAREER OUT OF, ALSO SHARE THAT WITH MY FAMILY.
THEY HAVE RUN WITH IT. USUALLY, IN THE ENTERTAINMENT
BUSINESS, THEY THRIVE AND GROW AND PERFORM ON THEIR OWN AND
WITH ME, WE GET TO DO IT ALTOGETHER.
IT IS NOT JUST ONE OF US. WE ALL GET TO HAVE OUR PART IN
OUR PRESENT AND FUTURE. LOTS OF FAMILY MEETINGS.
WE DISCUSSED WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE.
THE KIDS HAVE AN AMAZING WORK ETHIC. THEY NEVER STOP. IT TAKES A VILLAGE.
THAT'S THE MAGIC. CAROLINE: WAS IT MORE THAN 20, CLOTHING,
TO SKINCARE, TO CLEANING PRODUCTS, HOW DO YOU ENSURE YOU
ARE REMAINING 100% AT THE TABLE WITH A BOARD? YOU ARE ALWAYS WANTING TO BE
INTEGRATED WITH EVERY PART OF THE BUSINESSES. KRIS:
DO YOU MEAN HOW DO WE DECIDE WHO'S GOING TO RUN THE BUSINESS?
CAROLINE: YES. KRIS: I LIKE TO HAVE A PRESENCE IN
THE BEGINNING AND IDENTIFY WHAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT THE GIRLS ARE INTERESTED IN AND PASSIONATE ABOUT.
WE USED TO TAKE ANYTHING. WE WERE LEARNING AND GROWING.
LOTS OF STUFF DID NOT WORK OUT. AS WE'VE GROWN OVER THE LAST
DECADES, WE WANT TO DO THINGS WE ENJOY AND THAT MAKES SENSE
AND THAT WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT INTO. MY JOB IS TO IDENTIFY THE
COMPANY/BUSINESS, THEN HELPING TO BUILD THE TEAM AROUND THAT. WITH SKIMS, KIM THOUGHT ABOUT
DOING A SHAPEWEAR COMPANY FOR 10 YEARS. SHE WAS WITH KENDALL.
THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE RED CARPET.
KIM WAS LEANING OVER A BATHTUB FILLED WITH WARM WATER AND
TEABAGS AND SHE WAS DYING HER UNDERWEAR AND CUTTING IT UP.
I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? SHE WAS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT I
WANT TO DO. SHE DID THAT FOR YEARS.
SUDDENLY IT WAS TIME TO START THIS BUSINESS.
I ASKED THE PARTNERS TO COME ON BOARD.
I KNEW HOW TO MAKE MAKEUP. I WASN'T SURE HOW TO MAKE
SHAPEWEAR. I HAD TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WAS
GREAT AT MANUFACTURING. THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW
OUR ECOSYSTEM AND OUR PROCESS WORKS. WE IDENTIFY A BUSINESS. WE GET IT FUNDED AND TRY TO GET
IT OFF THE GROUND. WE FIND THE BEST TEAM TO PUT
AROUND THAT. CAROLINE: SPAGHETTI AGAINST THE WALL?
KRIS: A LOT OF IT. RIGATONI. CAROLINE: WAS IT A LEARNING?
KRIS: AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS
MEANT TO BE. IT IS ALWAYS LEARNING.
I WILL GET FRUSTRATED. SOMETHING IS NOT PERFECT.
AFTER ALL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERIENCES TO GET TO ANOTHER
LEVEL, ANOTHER CHAPTER. CAROLINE:
ANY PROJECTS YOU TURNED DOWN THAT YOU WISH YOU HADN'T? KRIS:
I DON'T THINK SO. THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE.
IN THE END, IT WAS THE BEST THING BECAUSE THEN YEARS LATER
WE ENDED UP DOING IT OURSELVES OR WITH A PARTNER THAT MIGHT BE
EASIER TO WORK WITH OR BETTER FINANCIAL OUTCOME.
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, THERE IS ALWAYS A REASON.
CAROLINE: THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HULU, YOU
DECIDED THIS WAS THE MOMENT TO MOVE TO STREAMING. DO YOU THINK THEY SHOW IS -- A
SHOW IS INTEGRAL TO THE FAMILY UNIT? KRIS:
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN AMAZING FOUNDATION FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
PLEASE LOVED DOING IT -- WE HAVE LOVED DOING IT.
WE HAVE HAD AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE WITH HULU AND DISNEY.
WE LOVE WHAT WE DO. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT SO LONG,
WE'VE FIGURED IT OUT. EASIER SCHEDULE ON SOME LEVELS.
IF ONE OF THE KIDS IS BURNT OUT, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL DO THE
HEAVY LIFTING. OUR CREW IS AMAZING.
THEY ARE PART OF OUR FAMILY. WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT TIME DOING
IT. WE ALL GET TO WORK TOGETHER. IT'S A PLUS ALL THE WAY AROUND.
HULU HAS BEEN AMAZING. IT'S GIVEN US THE CHANCE TO
ELEVATE THE PRODUCTION VALUE AND DO SOME THINGS MAYBE WE DID
NOT DO BEFORE. THAT'S FUN. CAROLINE:
THERE IS A NEW AUDIENCE. THAT IS WHERE YOU NAVIGATED.
HE THOUGHT ABOUT AUDIENCE. HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE
LANDSCAPE OF SOCIAL MEDIA? ARE YOU RELATIVELY THOUGHTFUL
ABOUT IT? KRIS: GOOD QUESTION. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, THERE
WAS BARELY TWITTER. FACEBOOK AND TWITTER.
NO INSTAGRAM. NO SNAPCHAT. NO TIKTOK. I LOOK BACK ON THAT.
KIND OF REMARKABLE. SOCIAL MEDIA IS CRAZY.
IT'S FIRE. IT CAN KEEP YOU WARM OR BURN
YOUR HOUSE DOWN. SO DRASTIC. I COULD GO ON FOR HOURS ABOUT
SOCIAL MEDIA, MY GRANDCHILDREN. CAROLINE: DO YOU WORRY? KRIS:
OF COURSE. IT'S A NEGATIVE PLACE AT TIMES.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE AT TIMES. IT'S GREAT FOR BUSINESS.
IT'S AN AMAZING FOCUS GROUP. IT'S BUILT-IN.
WHEN KIM FIRST HAD HER FRAGRANCE, SHE REACHED OUT TO
TWITTER. THEY TOLD HER. SHE DID IT. IT WAS A SUCCESS.
HOW DID YOU FIGURE THAT OUT? SHE TAUGHT US HOW TO NAVIGATE
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. NOW, IT IS A SPECIAL TOOL.
IT CAN BE SCARY FOR ME. I'M TALKING PERSONALLY.
FOR ME, I HAVE 13 GRANDCHILDREN. THAT'S A LOT OF LITTLE HUMANS
TO WORRY ABOUT. CAROLINE: HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT
PROTECTING THEM? DO YOU THINK IT WILL STILL BE
AROUND? KRIS: IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO EVOLVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT PLATFORM IS GOING TO BE. FOR THEM, THEY HAVE RULES AND
PARAMETERS, HOW THEY USE SOCIAL MEDIA, WHEN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO
GET ON. MY OLDEST GRANDSON WILL BE 14.
HE HAS A CELL PHONE. CAROLINE:
THEY, I AM SURE LOOK TO YOU FOR GUIDELINES.
DO YOU LOOK TO FOR PARAMETERS AND MENTORSHIP? KRIS: I HAVE AMAZING FRIENDS WHO I
HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH SINCE I AM 20 YEARS OLD. TOMMY HILFIGER.
MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO DO, I'M
SO PROUD OF, BUSINESSES THEY BUILT.
THEY'VE SHOWN ME THE ROPES. MY TRUE PEOPLE I LOOK UP TO IS
MY MOM, MY GRANDMOTHER WHO TAUGHT ME SO MUCH, MY KIDS WHO
INSPIRE ME EVERY DAY. THEY DRIVE ME CRAZY.
DON'T GET ME WRONG. I FEEL TOTALLY BLESSED TO HAVE
GRANDCHILDREN AND KIDS. THEY KEEP ME REALLY HAPPY.
CAROLINE: I'M NOT GOING TO SAY BALANCE,
THERE IS NEVER BALANCE, BEING VOYEURS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
BALANCE BUT YOU MANAGED TO WEAVE TOGETHER BUSINESS WITH
FAMILY, YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LACK OF TIME TOGETHER -- I'M
INTERESTED IF YOU THINK THAT BALANCE CAN CONTINUE GOING
FORWARD OR IF YOU COULD GIVE ADVICE TO OTHER MOTHERS?
THEY EMBRACE A NEW CAREER TRAJECTORY?
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM? KRIS:
THAT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU SAY DECIDE.
IT'S A DECISION ONE MAKES. FOR ME, I HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW
I WAS GOING TO MAKE A LIVING AND PAY BILLS AND CREATE A
LIFESTYLE AND A LIFE FOR MY KIDS THAT I WAS HAPPY AND PROUD
ABOUT. THAT MEANT FIGURING IT OUT.
I STARTED FILMING MY SHOW WHEN I WAS 52. THINK ABOUT THAT.
ALL THE TIME IN BETWEEN. IT'S CRAZY.
I THINK ABOUT HOW OLD I WAS. CAROLINE: YOU WERE YOUNG. KRIS:
I KNOW, IT SEEMS VERY YOUNG NOW. AT THE TIME I THOUGHT HERE WE
GO. A WHOLE NEW CAREER. COURTNEY AND I HAD A CHILDREN'S
SHOP. I THOUGHT, THIS SHOW IS GOING
TO BE SO GREAT. WE ARE GOING TO SELL SO MANY
T-SHIRTS. [LAUGHTER] I WAS SO HAPPY.
THEN, THE SHOW DID GREAT. WE COULDN'T KEEP THE STORE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE SECURITY. WE WERE GOING TO GET BOMBARDED.
OUR JOURNEY HAS BEEN ONE OF LEARNING ALL ALONG. CAROLINE:
WHEN DOES IT STOP? KRIS: ONE MORE THING. ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO START A
CAREER, 52, 62, 102, THERE IS NOTHING MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN
THAT. TO HAVE THAT ENERGY. IT KEEPS YOU YOUNG, CREATIVE
AND FEELING WHERE THE AND WORTHWHILE.
YOUR SELF-ESTEEM GOES UP. HAVING A SCHEDULE. ALL OF THAT.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS I COULD GO ON ABOUT.
MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH, SPIRITUAL HEALTH. ALL OF THAT.
HOW GREAT WE ALL FELT TO BE HAVING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES COME
OUR WAY, REALLY GOING OUT SEARCHING FOR THEM. CAROLINE:
DO YOU EVER WAKE UP NOT MOTIVATED? KRIS: YEAH.
[LAUGHTER] CAROLINE: WHAT DO YOU DO? KRIS:
I GO BACK TO SLEEP. [LAUGHTER] LISTEN, IF I WAKE UP AT 4 A.M.
AND THINK, I CAN'T DO THIS, YOU KNOW HOW YOU GO BACK TO SLEEP,
YOU LOOK AT THE CLOCK, IT'S 6:50 A.M.
AND I MIGHT, I OVERSLEPT ON MY GOD. I AM SILLY. WEAR AN AURA RING.
IT'S BECOME AN OBSESSION. I'M SO COMPETITIVE WITH MYSELF.
TODAY I GOT 87. I WAS SO MAD I DIDN'T GET 90. THE RESTFUL PART, I AM A LOST
SOUL. THE SLEEP I CAN EXCEL AT. THAT'S WHAT I CONCENTRATE ON.
THAT TELLS YOU ABOUT MY PERSONALITY.
I WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THE THINGS I CAN DO OK AT AND TRY
MY BEST THE NEXT NIGHT. KIM BEATS ME EVERY NIGHT.
SO ANNOYING. CAROLINE: WE RUN OUT OF TIME. A DAY WHERE YOU HAVEN'T FELT
MOTIVATED OR YOU HAVE DONE A MILLION AND ONE THINGS AND
NEEDED TO RELAX? KRIS: I JUST PLANTED A VEGETABLE
GARDEN, CHLOE AND I. WE LIVE NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER.
IT'S GREAT. WHEN YOU PLANT A GARDEN, YOU
DON'T GET MILLIONS OF VEGETABLES THE FIRST WEEK.
YOU GET LITTLE BITS. CHLOE AND I ARE SPLITTING THE
LITTLE BITS. IT'S GETTING FUNNY. I WILL STEAL SOME OF HER BITS.
SHE WILL STEAL SOME OF MINE. WHAT I LOVE, I LOVE DOING
THINGS THAT ARE CREATIVE. DESIGNING THINGS.
THE VEGETABLE GARDEN MAKES ME HAPPY.
GOING ON WALKS MAKES ME HAPPY. CLEARS MY HEAD.
JUST BEING WITH THE KIDS. SOMETIMES I GO TO BED, FIVE
NIGHTS A WEEK, AND I WILL COUNT HOW MANY GRANDKIDS I GOT TO SEE
THAT DAY. IF I GO TO CHLOE'S AND SHE'S
HAVING A PUMPKIN CARVING PARTY AND THERE IS SIX GRANDKIDS,
THEN I AM HALFWAY THERE. I HAVE A COMPETITION WITH
MYSELF. CAROLINE: YOU ARE ABOUT TO ADD A 13TH.
CONGRATULATIONS. I HOPE YOU GET TO SEE IF YOU
GRANDCHILDREN TODAY. KRIS: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
