KPCS: Vincent D'Onofrio #307

[Music] [Music] Oh so I am as always chat show how are you how have you been you know some are starting and I'm worried about you you know right you don't call let me just say it what the [ __ ] is your problem we're coming to you live as we do from the Westside comedy theater here the west side of Los Angeles and if you ever out here you want to see a comedy show you want to see this get to the improv the occasional stand-up this is the place for you go to the Westside comedy calm is that that cracks your was high comedy calm Sami Jamie Jamie was uh not present last day she was celebrating uh just a one-day Mother's Day with their own family mother yeah you found a mother turned out it was yours welcome you a there's no mistaking that use my mother we look very similar well well other than fell like I'm happy you know considerably on it everything yeah but you know that would be old three morning eighty years younger educating them on you're getting serious and you want to see her mother you want to know what the future is going to be sure so if I were to look at the small Asian man that was a lie I would not think you know she watches this and whatever you say I'm going to get in trouble okay well then I take that back and having to late Mother's Day I fell there on a birthday she knows I love her and also that that reference has been made a timer six she used my sisters yes she's had the same haircut since I've been gone and she looks like dr. Spock and then because it's like just short dark hair again we had a flat because all they got something on mr. Spock actor Spock is the pediatrician dr. Spock wrote a book doctor bones bones McCoy well you know what it is I got the BC believe lyrics back of my head oh they told you that I got Hank mister I wouldn't miss a spot you got the mr. Spock haircut many years ago I can I say doctor I thought you know why today that's exactly why you're say it I say how how much of the chat shows from now until and can we make devoted to the doctor mr. Spock I'm going to say weekly no but this is what's okay the Kevin likes to get everything slightly wrong so it's perfect that he would say doctors bought the most recent example was whenever we saw guardians of the galaxy - and he had to leave early and he leaned over to me and said I got to go let me know what the nest egg is there nothing and I'm like what and I'm like oh he's raised to rise up yeah this stuff like that all the five let me know what another Guardian sorry I don't leave early if there's a credit which is technically early and it's one of the clear I let the guardians of the galaxy he said in the presence of Chris Pratt one sky Lord O Lord Tyler I'm skylord to a straight guy Lori I like your character Skylar yeah star-lord the old man alright yeah yeah guess what I'm aging ya time you told mark ally you loved him as Luke sky killer that's bad the problem is I tell the story when my underneath my father at George Lucas and he met a [ __ ] represented I loved ET clearly a family tradition hangout keeping it a lot ah when did I become my father nothing long ago and welcome back to this side of the country Sam Levine thank you happy to be back I'm sorry I missed you Walden did New York area I know it was sad but like I said we see plenty of each other out here you're not wrong now and we didn't it's [ __ ] the family was sad but they're always saying but you had fun and you saw things and did people that's exactly correct okay good it was exactly quick did you make it to a ball game I did I made it to a Mets Angel game of all things the Angels followed me west or east you got asked why I well I'm not a particularly the bow no but oh there dear friends of mine I wanted to see a a game and so that was the only game in town he's imaginary friend no they were real eye-catcher photograph on the online instagrams oh great you said ball club like mr. burns would sure did well welcome back thank you happy to be here very excited to be here for today's kid I was in New York it's been announced and on the social media I'm recurring on the marvelous mrs. Mazal a new Amazon series that was picked up the two seasons from pilot this is the first for them and what is a dear friend Brian doyle-murray say about McCurry oh yeah Greek airing I love your cane you're always happy to see it yeah yeah you know I think the person is most excited that you got this role though is Richard time yeah Richard kind I don't understand I live down the street if they want to know cranky Jimmy could have hired me oh it's hammer shot I'm already on this recent guess if you want to check out the show if you're wondering just what the [ __ ] and you tuned in for our guest today and you have no idea what's happening recent guest Christopher guess there's a guest Lauren Graham Billy Bob Thornton Rob Riggle JK Simmons Craig Ferguson and Dave Foley upcoming Rob Corddry Dave Koechner Dave Coulier and recently reconfirmed actually a couple of nights ago I may have had dinner with him still make a big deal out of it Ricky Gervais is October 29th very [ __ ] excited he's coming to town to do some stand-up and man he loves to make fun of me being a Jew to my pain well sends me photographs of cats with a little Nazi mustache on its paw sends me photos of that the funny six F app all right I've got a piece of fan mail but I feel we've spent too much too much love a strength to our super incredible intern Brian McCauley who's in the hospital I have a horrific accident involving a drunk driver this just happened no no yeah we got this news right before we went live he owes me 20 bucks Wow he would love that joke yeah too soon never a factor on the show all of our love is strength is yours Brian keep us updated on everything and those of you want to write to us and find out more KPCS fan mail at gmail.com speaking of which I recently watched your 2016 film late bloomer it's a film I talked ad nauseam on the show having a director and was surprised to see that there were many many significant similarities to your main character and me huh at last almost ten years I've been dealing with the after effect of having a pituitary tumor with issues such as late puberty and self-discovery I'm pretty dumbfounded by the accuracy of your main characters experience as it relates to my own person life and I wonder how you came up with this story easy it was a book and a screenplay that others wrote based on a true story in the book that I've been directed the biggest shocker was one of the final season you're feeling your character declares his love for the woman in this film spoiler alert by playing a song head over heels by Tears for Fears a song that I fell in love with some months before filmers release well that's just happenstance I can't help you on that one from like 1985 and welcome to 1995 my favorite tears her I know Lange I'm just taking a back and wondered if this storyline was derived from someone in your own life and now you have an answer and good luck with their speedy recovery from 10 years ago write to us again KPCS fan mail at gmail.com my guest today well I'm unbelievably excited we exchanged some pleasantries on the on the Twitter and gang got cut up a little bit and then our own Samantha work makeup artist to the stars indeed working on a film with him mentioned sleep last Sunday yeah and we jumped all the [ __ ] over that and here he is please welcome Vincent D'Onofrio Benson now I I don't remember from our time together on the set of a motion picture years ago whether there's a truncated version or if it's just Vincent all the time of your name nothing it is yeah it's a my sister's call me Vinnie because because I've been around them a long time and they can get away with yeah yeah yeah and one others try I'm I'm fine uh-huh yeah what are you going to do I'm glad you don't have name issues because I've been dining on one particular story which I will not tell unless you're now interested in telling it yeah no okay I told it to you yeah yeah from New Delhi yes uh-huh yeah you did tell it to me and man I'm dying down that that's a good a wonderful spectacular example I think I use it in the script hyannis I had a sketch where I had this particular person as an uber driver and the other drug any ma yeah well they correct on the first day yeah double guns as I recall yeah yeah all right so shooting El Camino Christmas present that that term now I have to say that that term lucky we caught it on the first day should be the Austin or the south of Austin accent yes it's very distinct and I've used it since then and I BK first fell in love with it because of that phrase lucky we caught it on the first day that that Lillard during flexion took me well yeah yeah is there a little that in the Magnificent Seven know all the different characters a little bit in the thing that we're doing now uh-huh this L communal crystals going on yeah are you at liberty to speak about that yes sure Ted Melfi production and like him yeah and the glides is playing the lead in it and Dax Shepard and cobalamin it was a really good cast eclectic and it's a it's a comedy-drama about this kid that comes into this small town and everything goes wrong I like it already especially my character goes wrong here in Big Time aha there's no word menacing you he's just a [ __ ] jerk-off my guy he's like he's like a cop and he's just bad he's just not gets a little itch that he can't scratch about Luke and he tries as hard as he can to destroy his life that's fun to play yeah yeah okay so let's talk about the Twitter following each other and I compliment how many people you engage with and it's a unique way to use Twitter in a not Matt fearless is not the right word because it's just it's not confrontational it's just what do you got bring it yeah I'll take all comers yeah what is that experience like for you when you're replying I mean obviously the conversation that we're having now is going to go towards the trolls because that's when it gets heavy right so it's the trolls that they only paid they're only ones that make it heavy the rest is just reaching out connecting and like a positive way to people absolutely yeah yeah but so never engage trollsnews do you know I engage them yeah I've engaged them Brian and it's it's sometimes turned out good and sometimes not yeah sometimes they it's the professional ones there's some really good ones out there that I have to give you know respect to they're really good they know how to wow push your button yeah really amazing at it janessa and I the thing I find about it it's strange though is that everybody on Twitter actually it affects them in some way and yeah it doesn't affect me though clearly that's Twitter right so it's you know if you've ever been in the alley with somebody who's particularly menacing and you have to actually engage them in a real way like when I was a kid than that that real emotion and fear and chef but Twitter doesn't do it for me but likes it I just I just find it interesting that they're so good at it right there so horrible they're really horrible some of them like disgusting people but Intendant you say they know how to push it but I'm not sure they're disgusting people they know how to push your buttons I'm not sure because I'd have to see them for real whether they're disgusting they're playing a song just perfectly fine people yeah you know that's laying apart this is the only way that they feel a sense of power and I guess more others are engaging them I promise you they're feeling impressed yeah or they're just [ __ ] about like they're just that'd be great yeah great if they were just [ __ ] about that would be fed testing yeah then we'd all engage them but it's really interestingly when the really good ones get on I take them all the way down like I take them all the way as far as they want to go like all the way to the edge of their of their just vile it's just so good that I just you know I'm struck starstruck starstruck yeah like I'm really struck by them I really find it and I and I just let the compassion flow at them I try to yet well I enormous amount of compassion and I've been entertained and and it's it's just I just find it they're so talented yeah it's a unique perspective that we've not heard honestly and it's it's an unbelievably [ __ ] them yeah and I have to mention trolley trolley is this is just out of nowhere sure but trolley is a mouse that my daughter and I invented when I was a kid nice to make poems about trolley the country mouse and and they're really pathetic palms and pathetic Inwood way he's just a country mouse and you know he's ultra holy Oh trolley it's like that shocked himself you know and tries to bring up his his uh he tries to be more than what he is traveling okay that's what happened between my daughter and I in the in the pump and then recently I released a twenty one tweet calm about him on the Twitter oh and they came and they came yet and so there's a bunch of people by bunch I don't know how many of that is but that are going to have pizza today if I mentioned proudly so they haven't eat pizza that's what they say wow you haven't found a way to control them well they've been out loud because all their idea yeah damn yeah well occasionally I released these things I released them in in song and I released them in taxed at times these posts but you outlay these journals they're kind of germ fake journals either my fake journals personal fake general or throughout were their threes another character strength yeah journey in life and you release them occasionally on Twitter so go check those out by the way is your name right not harming that cornet at a Kenny can I trouble you for a little cold water in the other chat show mug that was purposely left behind so let's talk about the choices you made that I enjoyed endlessly and I also do I have to assume I'm going to assume it was singled out by many people who wrote about the Magnificent Seven the character was one of the few fully realized in the film Jack horn yeah [ __ ] so where do you begin with someone like that Bob with the script obviously but then where you go well I brought a little a couple little surprises that I would knew that I want to do that I was going to have to just throw out there on the first day when they when the cameras rolling I didn't tell anybody about and because I knew that if I said something they would just say no so I usually just don't say anything right and it's it's you I always have that sense of okay I'm about to get fired feeling ha ha you know whether you have one I know I'm on the right path coming or not you still have the female only when I have like big surprises John uh-huh like you men in black I nobody knew that I was going to move like that or sound like that they didn't until the first day no then a berry didn't because very you know he doesn't like to talk about stuff he likes to talk about everything but what you're going to do or how you're going to do it very Shana Taylor director yeah and extremely talented oh my yeah whoever gets to the show loved them dearly yeah isn't me so there's that you know where I brought a little gifts but then something really interesting happen is is that once I got to know the direct director Antoine Fuqua on set and I report and a report started between like six of us guys of the six of the seven and we we started to write and especially Ethan Hawke and I and Chris Chris Pratt and we started to write we started the right stuff for the movie and fook-la was just bring it on bring it on bring it on so this whole kind of thing started in and but the voice the voice was one of those things that I knew I was going to just do it and it was going to freak people out but yeah I knew that I knew that somebody like fuqua would get it and I knew the other actors would understand and so I knew it would be okay well there are actors who understand and some that don't when these things happen yeah I have to point to myself the the first time Benicio del Toro speaks in the usual suspects yeah with a voice that he chose that steals every scene he's in he and the director Bryan Singer had not told us either that that was going to happen and in the film my carrot he speaks and my character says what the [ __ ] that he just said now that's not me improvising that's me breaking the scene and asking the director what the [ __ ] that he just said yeah yeah yeah and that's why you share the Oscar with Chris of course that's exactly right that's why I asked him to drop off the little gold man at my house one out of 52 weeks that in six other lines but yes so so so does that occur also is everyone just my rare Lee do anything that is going to actually mess with other people's performance that's the escort you know it's like I I don't think I've ever done anything actually that would mess with somebody else's performance but you might not know that it would in other words it's all about intent and your intent is to serve your character and serve the piece serve the story so the story then also not [ __ ] up your fellow players right that's my intent for sure and I have a pretty good meter when it comes to that though I pretty much know because I've been [ __ ] with a lot like we all have with showboaters and and stuff and let's talk about one now that way though I I definitely have this thing where I do not ever mention names yeah yeah yeah I finally put out book and the decision was if people were great to me I was going to championing them right and a couple people were not I I spoke I spoke about them but I spoke about them because the situation was hilarious not because oh look what an [ __ ] this is yeah wonderful which passed away about four weeks before the book was going to come out and the publisher called me said you sure you want to cluster break and I thought for half a second and said you don't get it passed or dying because again it was hilarious and there were lots of witnesses I you know my thing is I have to wait longer I think I have to wait till they all get older and they've forgotten what I did to them yes so they can't come back and get the call and amount excellent point yeah so when you found this character in the Magnificent Seven and that's great that you guys were encouraged to keep writing stuff and creating yeah oh that's wonderful yeah it really worked because a lot of good stuff in the movie came out of that stuff yeah you know a lot of stuff with the Pratt's character and definitely with Ethan's in my character I mean it there are scenes that were definitely definitely there because other work that we did on our own get rid of that no I actually like a good script and if I read a script and agree to do it I actually don't like to touch it I don't like anybody touching it and I don't like surprises like that you know but if it becomes like this whole open thing for everybody to and that's what it was right just everybody involved to kind of come in and make it take it off the page and then do something even better with it if it's if it's that attitude then I like to join you know join in but it's one of the things that I say to directors you know when they have a really good script is I you know I hope it's not going to change I would prefer for it not to change you know right and if it's going to names please give me a heads up soon you know yeah yeah so when you just said I don't like surprises and then shortly before that you said I came to the job with a couple of surprises yeah how does that work well because I wasn't changing dialogue right people's King I wasn't changing la I wasn't changing story I wasn't changing anybody's Q's I never do that right I'm very good at that I don't do it I don't do it because I don't like it to be done to me but you know but if you're if if before you start actually working and I know you know this that if if everybody is saying okay it's an open arena here anything can happen when the cameras rolling well then there are no surprises because it's all that whole thing is Mel employed you have to you expect surprises right but if it's not that kind of a tone yeah on set then you then some kind of surprise that messes up three cues afterwards it's not welcomed yes yeah my thing is I love I think I love total freedom because I'm like yourself I'm an untrained professional I learned while I earned having come from stand-up comedy I I'm not proud of it I thought I considered you a great actor well you're not known for your taste right about that [ __ ] with me displaying my ability to take a compliment when I told you that when we first worked together - yeah I didn't believe you then I got but what if L could hearing it I think I enjoy freedom with never changing context or cue I think I enjoy freedom like that and flourish until I work with a great writer and they're like I'm doing right now in this marvelous mrs. Basel the this team did gilmoregirls and all the episodes they're just extraordinary and they prefer that you don't change a syllable and so I feel restricted when I hear that until I start saying these incredible words in a very specific order they were put in and then I feel spectacular that I've been given a totally good weaponry yeah that I don't have yeah exactly yeah and why mess with that yeah and I also these days I also give warning if I have a thought like one of these surprises that may interrupt another performance I give a couple of weeks heads up to see if it's going to last like if everybody likes the ideas still in the day after a few weeks yeah then I'll do it like for instance the last thing we shot the other day we shot this scene and I'm saying I was singing in it and that's not in the script but I gave everybody a heads up a couple weeks they had to get the rights to the song and you know I sent it I told dak stacks I'm going to be singing in this thing and so there was no negativity coming back at me and there was like a good good two weeks or more right and so on the day I just did it but then also in a film you know on their coverage I didn't think hmm so that I didn't screw up there their sound and their what they were what they were doing I sang only in parts that they wanted me to sing and so they could react to it sure so I you know I think about all that stuff when you're young you can't think of it cuz you just don't have the experience right but when but when you're getting older you know how to make a movie and you know how it's done it you can yeah I think you're irresponsible if you don't then knowing House on this make if you don't then follow through with yeah you know not messing up people's keeps giving people a heads up and stuff like that yeah but when it comes to my own performance like in Magnificent Seven I'm saying the lines are scripted I'm doing I'm doing the correct blocking I'm not throwing anybody off of it I've altered my voice and it's not a voice that's inarticulate right yeah you'll know your keel is yeah well it was too long-winded answer to your no that's what the show is yeah you would worked with that Antoine on the Brooklyn's Finest yeah we had a little team now yeah I also saw in the research you referenced in a conversation about doing away in the movie Silverado which is one of my favorite lesson me tuna oh my goodness yeah it's a very entertaining love oh my yeah Lawrence Kasdan Gavin it right what a great guy you was like when I when I when I met him he was really sweet guy yeah very unassuming yep Kevin Costner and Silverado gives one of the most memorable star turns of a virtual unknown yeah in memory yeah it's so good what you knew he was going to be a major star yeah the choices yeah well yeah that everything yeah oh man mmm-hmm it's nice when you see that there's been a few of those in our em in our time in this in this business where we've seen performances where you look okay so you she is going to be there's a maid purse right there and one scene yeah what the [ __ ] did you say I believe was the focus of 40 also okay we have a first let's talk about Denzel because he's magical and there is a leadership quality that comes from him that whether you gravitate towards that or are inspired by it it's undeniable and certainly within the context of the story of the film it's wildly necessary but I don't know what your experience was just working within it well I mean I think you just put it really well I have a kind of a little bit of a history with him you when I was a kid when we were both young actually we were invited to the Sundance Film laboratory he was there he was already a major star and he was going around to the directors and giving them advice that was his job there and my job there was to be in one of the young filmmakers play with the lead and one of the one of the leads in one of the young filmmakers laboratory felt that they were making at the time there and we there was a there was a I had heard that he was going to Denzel was going to speak in front of a bunch of the filmmakers and I just kind of made my way in because I want to hear what the guy at sick because I loved his stuff you know and and he saw me too I don't want to get specific about it but he gave me like a huge compliment in front of all these young filmmakers and I was like called out in the way that I never expected you know and and then he came afterwards and he was you know he's not he's not the kind of guy who wants to make friends or anything you know and he came out anyway and I thanked him and Courtney Vance was there that year too is amazing us as well coordination and they and I remember thinking and for doing that and then we never never saw each other again for many many years but then I saw hurricane and I was so blown away by his performance in hurricane that I asked my lawyer to find out his how where I could send a letter to him and I wrote him a really long letter about it and just you know yeah I just praised him because I was you know and I've done that a few times with performers and actors in my career where I just added the blue send them something and he then you know I never heard anything back but then I ended up on set with him with magnificent son and and he is he is exactly that he is a he's a leader you know he he certainly has his way of doing things and the the thing with him and I've met many actors like him is that they're so good at what they're doing that they make you they confirm what you're doing yeah because of their amazing talent and how much they've gotten away with it and how successful they are at it it confirms a lot of things for it confirmed a lot for me even at my age and in my experience you know and and so when you're in a scene with the Machine just it gets rid it rises up to this level yeah and everybody stays there for the whole thing until the director's cut a minute you get back down to the real life yeah but to have him in the scene do valas like that - I would think so you know we're just every breath he takes while he's acting every noise that comes out of him is just honest and pure and you just like I'm so happy I'm doing yeah you're like thanking the stars that you've had the opportunity to be up there yeah during the scene that's very right there yes exactly and it is such a gift it is and and and Denzel is uh it is is like that I mean he's when you're in a scene with him you can't help but you're going to be good because of how good he is yeah yeah he makes you more confident yeah and I remember the last day we were all riding our horses and they had some shot we ended up shooting in Santa Fe and and we have to cross this river or something like that and you know I see him riding up on his horse he was in the lead he's in the lead so yet that he was the last one back to get back in his number one position and as he's passing me I'm looking at him and you know he's all in black and he's on this [ __ ] horse I mean it's like it I mean it's ridiculous yeah ridiculous and I'm like I you know I just like really loud out to the rest of the guys I said ladies and gentlemen I said the he Denzel Washington I said one of the best actors we have in this country ever yeah and he passes by right and he looks at me and he rides by and then he turned back and he said only in this country did you have your best Enzo that is yeah I've been second or seventh fiddle to giant giant giant movie stars he's the only one who called up a couple of weeks before we started filming and said we're supposed to be best friends in this movie we should go out and have a meal it's a little tiny thing it seems maybe trivial the only time that ever happened and what a difference it made yeah just to go out and spend a couple hours at Genghis Cohen on Fairfax he likes the kosher Chinese sure okay so there Genghis Khan leave it is a lesson yeah just sat there tell me your story I'll tell you mine yeah that's that we're playing our character is supposed to be best friends in the thing yeah just at ease and nearly takes chances he does little things I mean he's just this for me it's just a huge confirmation that everything that I tried to execute over the years you know yeah that it's not in vain right you know yeah you see him do it and it's like okay you know thank God I've been on the right track you know I well confirming as yes yeah that's an extraordinary feeling yeah so I mentioned to you before we started that I saw the short film you dragged in five minutes mr. wells hmm you went to the Venice Film Festival with that or we did we open that we wasn't ever in competition right it's it's but it travels around it still travels around actually to this day and it's many years ago now and it opens festivals and things is there's two prints I wanted home and there's one that just goes all over and yeah what was the genesis for doing this I did Edward and they it's not my voice during Orson and Edward and it's a it's very good though as a voice guy I picked up on that yeah and and I you know I knew that it had to be done but I just didn't like it there was something about it I didn't like and it's such a small little thing that I didn't have the time I had an odd affectation for sure the voice of a you know I didn't like I thought I thought the I thought that the performance can't think of his name at them if you remember who it is it didn't Maurice LaMarche yeah I think yeah yes it was just so good I'm sorry Maurice I thought he did great and but it wasn't that it was my own [ __ ] should I couldn't deal with I'm sure that somebody had to do that for me that I couldn't deliver in that short of time I just couldn't deliver it and that they're just stuck with nature and it's the humility of that just just hung with me and so during the research for that I learned that he wrote that the cuckoo clock monologue and that he used to use that at dinners and and stuff and to show off and you know and he actually brought it to the table when they were shooting the third man and and and stuck it in there in the carousel seen when learned that big carousel him in Joe cotton and I started I thought it was fascinating because it's it's a monologue with him with a really amazing structure to it and I thought I took the structure of the monologue and I made a short using the same structure about coming up with the monologue right and and so that that was in my that was my mind that was the idea and this great rider will Conroy loved the idea and he said can i pat it for you and he did he delivered this great script and we built this set similar to the way that Wells used to do things where it was it was constructed four feet off the ground it was a dressing room at Shepperton Studios we redid a dress we built a dressing room and you imagine it or was it taken from weather were say comes with some photos but not it's not exact sure it built it four feet off the ground and built it so that it split in quadrants and and also we had a muslim' ceiling to it so that we could light through it just like Wells do so we did it just like a Wells memory which was so extraordinary funky now and I'm wheeling one we shot this thing I wanted the reason why it was four feet off the ground because he could roll cameras on the cement studio floor and shoot at ground below ground level up you know so we did the same types of things and it was great you know I had the Frank princey who's an amazing cinematographer he came and he did it and and we shot it in four days four days Wow well I was logged on log it's a great great great piece of work and I encouraged I felt better about doing that I I was fueled yet by my lack of ability on Ed Wood he made good yeah and I might get myself down and you were no longer haunted exactly that's pretty great yeah it's one of the better reasons I've ever heard for doing something creatively get that particular monkey off yeah are you still in the process of doing the kid yes and where are we with that we are casting Billy the Kid that's where we're there now and I'm waiting for a particular actor to give me an answer and this is something that Ethan Hawke is going to play Pat Garrett and it's a it's a thick it's a factual story about Pat Karen bill you kid but I turned it into a coming-of-age story I put a fictitious young man between them who they meet and he becomes a man through packer and Billy the Kid they're two different people good versus evil and right and complicated good versus evil stuff and and he actually ends up there when Garrett killed Billy the Kid and sevens it's a has a working title called the kid but I don't know if it's going to be called it but so we're waiting for it's all financed lions gays Brennan's but I was just waiting to get the right kit really to get the script from rip this from me my idea another idea I came up with you did you work with the writer yeah and rule and hem not young writer did a great job it's a great script everybody loves it little effect Billy the Kid actually Jewish very Jewish looking thick beard big Cubs fan I bet a lot of your lid notice you probably didn't notice about this to Jason before you even better so I said Jason Sam was about to suggest himself did been doing this one time hey what is what age is this kid eight nine ten the little guy the little guys have been 14 the character you create yeah who experiencing these two yeah sorry aha but there's probably an older drew somewhere in this way I want to be Tony you're unavailable missing the middle any great actor over yes haha yeah let's talk a little bit about about the men in black in the very silent film the character that was had a few surprises to it we have of course a segment on the show called famous questions where I I ask someone famous that you worked with to write a question for you and this one comes from Barry Sonnenfeld who asked what actor director were you impersonating impersonating or inspired by in men and black he has an answer so I hope the two of you talked about it no so he was guessing I don't know what the answer has John Huston yeah oh yeah oh so the you must have told him at some point I don't know oh I don't remember ever speaking to Barry about that because I wasn't allowed to talk to Barry about my better performance don't tell me Barry yes got in touch with me through Spacey share okay okay we used to run DeVito's company now she does a tan Tina's comes producer yeah she called me and said Barry Sonico would like to talk to you but he's nervous that you're going to talk to him about acting I never met Barry so of course I mean once you meet there you totally understand why he would ask you a question that way yeah yeah and so I'm like you know what ha what is it because she goes well would you you know would you feel comfortable with not talking about acting and I'm like yeah I guess you know and she goes okay well tell him and I think he wants you to look at this script and want you to play the bad guy in it or whatever so I could great so I get the script and I'm at some diner and off of sunset somewhere and I'm reading it and it's a [ __ ] alien you know and there's no description of anything other than you know he steals this guy's skin and he puts it on him and and then he you know and then the story goes on and I'm and I'm like I can't talk to the director about it's like yeah this is insane this is like a bad joke like they want me to play an alien but I'm not allowed to talk to the director about it an alien who's stolen a man yeah skin and clothes what does he sound like good as how does he move like what what doesn't know what it means to be a human so exactly wish you had been there Joe Davis - Barry I go - yeah but at the same time I'd seen get Shorty and I was like Tata I have to do this it's like okay yeah I want to do this movie and as a cinematographer for the Coen brothers oh my god yeah yeah yeah yeah and so you know I said yes and then I was off on my own I had to come up with all this stuff and the walk in the frustrating aspect of him being having to be in a human outfit and and and how disappointing it was at times yep and so that I had to come up with that and then and then the actual walk I I watched you know this is going to sound so actory but I I bored myself to almost death watching love documentaries and I was I was sitting I'm sitting at my my couch and I'm why this thing and I'm I'm watching this Beetle Bug crossed this porch and the cameras like zooming in slowly on it and I'm like what the [ __ ] am i doing it's so [ __ ] bored oh my god and so I just had to get I'm not going to do that like there's nothing to help me there yeah and I I was actually I actually it was you know I was kind of up in the air what I was going to do so I was walking from the gym and I passed by this sporting goods store and in the sporting goods store they had these knee braces basketball players wear and I just I thought I could wear those and I could tape them off so that I'm constricted so I bought two of them one for each leg and I went home and I got some sticks for my feet and duct-taped my feet so I couldn't rotate my feet and I bet my nice light stood up bent my knee slightly and duct-taped the braces off so I couldn't bend my legs up or like I couldn't straighten them or collapse them and then I just tried to walk and suddenly I had it yeah and then the voice was a you know Ponce called you know it's kind of John used you know yeah but it had to be faster because it was just too slow so I combined Jorge see Scott and John Huston's voice and that's how I came up with that and then I had to do it on the first day of shooting when nobody knew that I was what I was going to do and we've been how exhilarating is that you know he saw his first take to be clear those of you watching and listening to be clear take one of everything is [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] so then let's add to that extraordinary thing level of absurdity yeah to everyone outside of the pocket you've been living in right in time they're all not around with duct tape and you're like almost going to cry right yeah and after the first take what he stopped I don't think we completed the first take and and he said he said can we talk sorry Perry I didn't realize we were allowed to it should have been your comment and I can't remember if he cleared the set easier or if we went outside but we were standing I remember up standing alone and thank you huh and he said can can you can you do that again can you do that again II and I I do it again and I drew the dialog him and he goes uh are you going to do that the whole movie Paul fell and I'm like yeah but that's it this is it this is the expect of my talent and he said this is is there a way to do it laughs and I'm like I do it again and I'm like well this is this is it like I don't know if you know but under my costume I have my legs tied off and everything and it's not I didn't know and he just made me do it one more time and he asked me to do it one more time and he said it he goes this is this is either not going to work or it's going to be great he goes let's just try it so we just kept on doing it and then he never said anything to me after that ever again so like every day for like two weeks I'm thinking today is when I get fired like they haven't had the meeting yet they have enough time because the scheming says whether we've got to have the meeting Spielberg and sure and someone's going to ask what is he doing yeah and that day just it just never came anything and that's how I ended up tonight I don't know what your feelings towards the film night shift with Michael Keaton your feelings aren't yeah Ron Howard told me that he would get calls daily from the studio saying what the [ __ ] is he doing he's all over the place who else can we get to do this yeah it is those unique overly used outside-the-box choices that sometimes yeah but you have to you know in my from my perspective your Barry Sonnenfeld suddenly turns into my Savior because he went with it and once you get to know Barry you realize that him his way of communicating at times can be just do it you know just do it so I think he a clicked for him and he just had me do it as much as I could after that right and there's never a moment when watching the film where you don't think this is an alien yeah I mean that's the success of what you set out to do yeah I just never a moment you go and as a as an actor in a wardrobe Dylan stick whatever it's so uncomfortably physically and yeah inaudibly that you're you're watching the embodiment and failing miserable this list a lien is one of the worst human impersonators that ever yeah he just sucked me on believe yeah and weirdly is okay with that I don't think he knows there's no self-awareness out just how horrible he truly is right he's and committed as committed as you were as an actor he's committed to his journey yeah he's committed to in person he made the choice let's not forget that to take this man's outer layer including wardrobe yeah I'll fool them he must have thought at some point they won't know I'm an alien so he's also a bit of a dimwit yeah in that regard yeah not your smartest he's the cockroach well let's not forget yeah is even to his own planet a cockroach yeah just not a bright guy at all just instantly obvious that's a wrong and it's not duct tape yeah and I think I think that's why it works in this kind of absurd way you know yeah I think that's what very probably but okay it works in this absurd the movie is a beautiful cartoon come to life yeah yeah it's uh it's almost impossibly good that film I'm just I'm not really good on so many levels yeah what it accomplishes that was a Barry Sonnenfeld famous question Don Cheadle famous question was although we worked on the same film Brooklyn's Finest we didn't meet my question for him is how crushing wasn't for you that we didn't meet I'm sure it was devastating I would have been well I don t though is one of my favorite actors well yeah because he is uh his his commitment is extraordinary in that kind of subtle way where you never you just don't feel like he's he's acting and so there's like a it's not it's not an easy thing to do to commit that much and still get away with it yeah with an audience but my answer to his question is I haven't thought about it once okay good yeah well let's listen yeah that's all we asked for yeah well nor did I think about it while we were doing movie when am I going to cuz not enough no in fact I had forgotten that he was in the movie at all ha like it there was a time in your life but all anyone wanted to talk about was oh my god was it like to work with Sandy kuba can you go through being fresh out of ways to answer the question I imagine and then I my hope is enough type it's fast and as we get older I'd be I don't want to really talk about who have things to say about yeah I do yeah good because how many looks started my career there's no ya know if it wasn't keen in the counter Oh notes yeah right and also keys are the capsule given to you by yeah one of phenomenal filmmaker three or four Mount Rushmore level yeah singularly original yeah so how does how does that go down so so according to research you you have to put together a self-made videotape because of Modine I was bouncing and bodyguarding in New York Todd I was very young I was 23 or something like that and having studied acting for still studying act instilled in place right Broadway did Broadway and but I would never quit my day job or my nights off in this matter the bouncing yeah and human his wife Carrie were walking by one day and we had we had known each other from auditions and I think we went to a class together at some point and I decide you saw him I said hey Matthew how you doing and we got to talk and he said I'm I'm you know gone off to do this thing in in London you know and he said there's a part available you should audition a lot of people are auditioning but you should audition for it and I said okay I said he goes I'll get you the information so I went sure enough he got me the information where to send the tape and so me and my friend Steve Marshall who was an actor that I grew up with in New York we rented a video camera and back then they were like that big you know and they had the deck that you had to carry in every chair yeah and we rented all that stuff and the tripod and I sat on 10th Avenue 21st three on Stu and we stoop chosen specifically because because I didn't have anywhere else to shoot okay and I and the monologue that I was doing was a very New York kind of mom walk right from up from a some kind of local play or something and involving cops go to the research that you left out the reference to cops yes it exactly let me sort of military essence right yes right exactly that and what's so funny I hadn't thought of that in a long time it's Jason McIntyre and research that's really good yeah cuz if your person or you just say that like I said it for the life okay yeah bread father no he's a research for this up there no thank you that was awesome so I do this I did this monologue and we I did a bunch of takes and I don't I don't think we edited it but I sent it off and a few weeks later I was living in Hoboken at the time and you know I got this call directly from the sky you said he was Stanley Kubrick's assistant and I'm like okay okay and when family gets on the phone and I thought that he was British like I didn't know that he was from the box I didn't know enough about I seen I was nervous I didn't know anything about and so as soon as he said hello I just just [ __ ] hung up did you yeah I thought it was so stupid like did you think it was one of my bouncer friends [ __ ] around because you would even add some English guy that could because they were always doing [ __ ] like I could see them [ __ ] up somewhere I'll call him your English colony now you could just stand to raise a little bit a little weight exactly we're going to he's that talk down on an old mr. Kubrick that's all we need exactly but then I got I got a call back and they call back and they said please don't hang up and so I talked to him and he said I'm going to send you some words and I want you to make another tape and and I realized it was yeah Stanley Ken yeah you thought I was I was thinking well this is this is amazing I'm never going to get this but it's amazing if that I'm talking to this guy yeah but I can't like life doesn't work this way right in that I will do everything he says right but I'm about to the disputer at the time and I couldn't I was too young and naive to see anything past that right and I didn't have those kind of hopes and dreams like I just didn't I had I was studying really really hard and my hopes and dreams was to just not get laughed off the stage right you know and this was so far beyond that that it was surreal yeah it would add to a bit yeah so I he I waited I get a few and in about a week I got the this letters from nella envelope and it had words there was no punctuation or anything was just these words and so even I we did it again in the backyard of my Hoboken place and against this fence because I could tell that it was like a war thing a good camp thing so we did it against this metal fence and there was these lines and I was supposed to say them and then so I did and then then night and then he the next call he asked me to come to England for the that I got the part that he wanted me to he got on the phone again today this astonishing yeah a week another week or so later and then asked you to come out and then I would do thing and I said well I don't have an agent or anything he goes well you'll have one now that'll be easy going just tell somebody and you'll get him and so I did I went to Johnny Planko he used to be at William Morris at the time and he was my first agent and I I went to his office I said look I have one of the big parts and Sam Kubiak's movie and I thought I need representation it's like okay sit down bringing it here and yeah and and and he was he was very helpful because I didn't know anything about anything sure and he hews a have been in the business for a long time and one of the best agents around at the time how did you have the wherewithal to walk into his office just you know stick in my notes you know in in the trades and you know paying attention to things that I'd never paid attention to before it realized that maybe Willie Morris sounded cool you know would be a good yeah I'm willing more hey Janie Bugs Bunny walk through the lobby of a hotel yeah just I figured you know this will be a good place and I went out there and he said he said to start eating start eating yeah and he said start eating before I went out yeah yeah and so when I got there I just looked like I could he said I just look like I can kick everybody's ass him that I was going to have to put on more weight and so I did and I got up to 270 something pounds you know which was it was 60 70 more pounds than normal yeah like more like a team or council normal time and I was really people like to think that putting on that kind of weight sounds great you just see doughnuts an ice-cream wasn't so great suddenly you can't bend over you can't do anything and you get treated differently and you know it's uh yeah you you were mentioning that in some of the research that instantly yeah less attention from ladies yeah and you know and you know you don't get good tables at restaurants and you know you don't you can't people think you're a little less intelligent sure you know I mean this what you have to remember there was no like computer nerds ban or anything there's people didn't think of nerds as being cool then and so it was the first time I was really since I was kid I was a chubby kid so I knew what it was alike to be be heavy but those days were long gone by then and and so yeah so it was a lonely time out there in England but it was ahead Matthew there as a friend and and you know I started working and I and I did it and I saw people getting fired around me and I just never I always felt that Stanley liked me and that I wasn't going anywhere and I was he built my confidence and and unlike Barry what's he talking about acting and look now he doesn't talk about anything okay yeah never never so thinking about doesn't want to know doesn't want to hear anything about and after takes their be directly refer feel better that was that was not right do it better would be his direction yep that was no better do it faster is do it better not terribly helpful no but you're here you're [ __ ] up you know this that's it's not working guys have to make this work and it it puts a pressure on you that that you kind you kind of use that pressure to because I was thinking that terminology that exact verbage undermining in a sense does feed the character you're playing in this particular role it does but it you know he he was pretty much like that with with everybody I want to make it clear that he he had she had one actor do two days worth of takes and on a megaphone would say he had this thing where he would clear his throat and before he spoke yet it was almost a tick sort of and um it's it's take 72 that's just no [ __ ] good let's go to take 73 you know and no attempt to be funny let's be clear as funny as it is to hear it now note something no one was laughing on that set so you had to come up with the goods or you were not going to have a good time two days and one for one actor one scene yeah yeah so the stories of you know to be fair the scene wasn't working I was sitting right next to Stanley what was going on and feeling bad for everybody but seeing wasn't working right yeah yeah yeah cuz you hear stories about something like that averaging 70 takes and you just think well at some point that just becomes a thing it becomes a big thing yeah yeah but you know Moe Dean and I and Arliss Howard I think I think the most we never did stuff like that I think the most takes that I ever did was like 11 there's a scene in the movie that people called the blanket party where they hit me with soap and I think we did that 11 times because it was a big shot everybody had to get out of their bunks the camera slid across the barracks with everybody getting out everybody had to get around the thing was a big was a big deal and it was a Steadicam shot and they're hitting you actually with styrofoam wrapped in towels sure yeah and we did that 11 times I think it was either nine times or 11 times but it was a big number and but it's not a Kubrick thing number no it's a regular film yeah yeah but you know the the the scene the big scene where I shoot the guy and then I shoot myself I she started to mention myself that we did three times you know and then we did you know there was no CGI back then so they you know they just blow this sponge of a put tissue and bloody thing with the little mayonnaise in it or something on against the wall goes you know past my head hit the wall behind my head and they did it once it work you're like okay awesome you did that scene only three times I did the performance three times well yeah but the kill shot once I think the kill shot was once I don't remember ever doing it more than once and I think Matthew did his side only a couple of times too and and I think you know I think the sergeant got killed I mean that was a very we did that in an afternoon that I ain't crazy we did in an afternoon and the night the night before that this is a story that I told before cuz it's the only really story that i have when stanley spoke to me about acting and so i'll tell it again if you want please it's just i just want you know it's not exclusive to your i don't i don't have those sort of expectations please my questions get to be one of a kind we're walking the day the day before we shot that scene right we're walking back up back to that we're walking to our cars and stanley is behind me and it's just him and I and I think mugging or somebody that somebody that I had become friends with and I heard and you know and clears so I knew he was going to say something we don't know anyone like that Delia clears her throat like a dick and I think he's our research producer so out of all I own it so we I stopped and I turned to look and he was in fact he was talking to me was about to talk to me and he said do you know what you're going to do tomorrow so that's where I met it happened yeah and I said yeah I think so and this is like one of those moments in in our business that it's like Christmas it's like magic it's like something like that like even waiting yeah because you can't you can't make this [ __ ] up what I'm about to tell you okay so he goes are you sure and I said yeah I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I'm pretty set you know he goes and goes it has to be good it has to be really good and I'm like I'm hoping this family you know I've been with him for like 13 months already you know and so I knew him pretty well and I'm like I'm hoping Stanley I'm hoping it's going to work for you you know I didn't feel like you know like I was about to cry or anything by the end place when I was speaking to myself you know like he was a like I knew him after 13 yeah and he said okay it has to be big though it has to be like lon chaney big and I said okay and I was this thing happened inside me that was like Christmas or because at home at my at my flat I had about 15 lon chaney films on video because because you'll relate us with him at the time no because of this scene because I always saw Leonard Lawrence turning into a monster I always saw him as a monster I every reference for that I already saw him that as a weak-minded person that was that switched from being a country bumpkin to a monster like his wires got crossed in the training and they made a monster instead of a soldier absolutely I saw it and it's a very when I think back at it I probably wouldn't have made them look that same choice today but I think it came from a very inexperienced very simple way of looking at it and I think it was exactly right yeah and I was so ready that it was unbelievable and I didn't say a word you know I just I just you on your own had decided to get all these lon chaney films so that you could prepare for the moment that he says judgment any I had about ten Lon Chaney's films I had Godzilla films and King Kong film monsters monster movies young you don't even working with them and he says to you the night before it needs to be you know whatever that is you've been weird it has to be launched and big and also it needs to be whatever that is you've been working on yeah that's what he's also saying yeah you know all that work you've been doing that's what I need you to do tomorrow yeah that's the Christmas yeah that's the Christmas is is that I actually on your own at 23 not knowing [ __ ] from shinola was thinking the thing and Ming as Stanley Cooper that to me is like one of those things that has only happened maybe again once in my whole career yeah you know just like you know I am it I got it like I was so excited I went home I called my teacher you know back in back as she was a she was in Los Angeles at the time he was still my mentor to this day and I called her and I told her what had just happened and they you know cuz I told her what kind of work I was doing and she was supporting me on and everything I said you'll never believe what just [ __ ] happen he told me the [ __ ] do will do this biggest long Cheney and left like it was like amazing he's amazing how often during the 13 months at you and her spoken several times because I needed confirmation I was too inexperienced I needed confirmation I'm like because didn't remind me of anything moving that I had seen know so I had it right so I wanted to know what my doing is sure you know I'm using this Nursery Rhyme in my head for most of it and that I would I had three blind mice going on in my head the whole time there every scene that any dialogue scene that he had I had three blind mice constantly like in a monotone very kind of dark three blind mice thing going on in my head the whole time and I and you know so I was doing all this stuff and she has no just I can do it you know be confident I'm you know spectacular shall we name her Sharon Chapman she still has classes here in Los Angeles and she's amazing and I like these days when I'm in town when I'm not in Valencia shooting no communication some I take her classes over and I teach them holy [ __ ] yeah Los Angeles look into that call yourself a wannabe actor Wow lousy Wow Wow it's a pretty cool thing yeah and so when that did next day comes and you do as big as lon chaney he didn't say anything to me right there were these in this I remember in this studio we're shooting which was basically an old barracks I mean an old Gas Works joint place where they were they blew up and everything there were these buildings that they had turned into a studio and in the buildings where these giant cement you know those you see them on construction sites they're big round hollow pillars there made of cement where you can walk into them like tunnels yeah and they're just they were just around and so they put pillows in there for us to hang out you know I would go to one of those and I nobody would bother me everybody knew that that I was just like certain kind of kid and I would go in there and I would view the nursery rhyme and that's what I did that day and and I had all this physical thing that I was just planning I'm doing and and by then the we had already shot the scenes where he would he would he does this thing where he if you're playing somebody bad he keeps raising the camera and tells you not to tilt up at it but but look at a mark that's how he gets that malcolm mcdowell saying and everything and so I was combined I knew he was going to do it to me on that day so I incorporated it into what I was doing and and in fact he did keep it up pretty high but by this time I knew how to play it was 13 months in I knew how to play with the camera I didn't know how to know and so by that time I my posture fit it so he didn't have to manipulate my performance like he was doing earlier on in the shoot and yeah he and so we would do we when we finished the three takes and we he was very happy because the the effect was worked the first time door and so he said do you want to watch them and I'd never considered watching myself and so he said I'd really like you to sit down and watch him so he had you know back then he had the monitor that he had was the screen was about like that big but it it was so it was all so long like behind it was like really long years like this miniature screen but really long you know what it took to have that screen I don't know that during the day back in the day yeah but we're watching it I'm watching it and and he's in he were sitting I'm sitting next to him in the chair he's directly next to me in a director's chair the small ones and he puts his hand on my hand during one of the takes and I just knew that okay I get it like I delivered like because I was watching it and to this day I can't tell you what I saw it was just like blah you know I have no idea and no but he put his hand on me and I'm like yeah this is what his way of saying yeah and I was it totally sucked man yeah that's pretty cool holy [ __ ] man yeah I mean there's been there's always a little piece of act as being children in the in the sandbox and right and wanting dad's approval and of course I think that would be the apex yeah one of the greatest yeah and you know he was he was he was so much of the guy who's saying well that was take 72 yeah and it's horrible so he really didn't like 73 he really didn't like it when things didn't work out he really loved it when they did and let you know he would genuine genuinely smile that's how he would let you like he would have a smile on his face anyway he would have this like little Jew from the Bronx excited getting you know yeah he just you could just see he loved it he loved it man yeah oh man Z man man did you send me anything good the hell with us oh wait Jason had a question okay we have a live thing and uncle and usually it's you know your your troll show they're coming like the sidebar like Jason McIntyre show it's been mentioned way too much Oh today I interesting our layer in the interview you were talking about how you I think was doing the troll conversation how you don't like showboaters so Jason text me he wondered how you deal with fake people in Hollywood if that's the case well I it's a it's a really good question because I think that I think that there's a lot of fake people in Hollywood but I also think that people forget that just like in real life you hang in the circles that you feel comfortable in and so I don't deal with it a lot you know I and I would and I'm just using the term Hollywood because that's like another term for the business but the fact is is that they're actors live everywhere and some of them are jerks and some of them are not and and I try did not surround myself Turks yeah that's pretty much it every business has like got her voters yeah all right yeah we're not terribly special however I I have one query follow up a follow-up questions lately unrelated long forget and then questions out of left field a film you did well not left field but you know the crosnes home you did in the mid 90s Stewart saves his family mmm the Al Franken movie about the Stuart Smalley character who is one of my hero senators right now for sure yeah and and that such a that movie was such a weird departure from the sketch that I think had been born out of on SNL yeah and I loved seeing you in that movie because it was such a it was such an eye-opening different performance for me as a fan when I saw you in it and you know it's just intense with alcoholism and the and the familial troubles and everything and you look so unusually with the curly hair and the whole thing and and I'm just wondering if that you know movie kind of resonated with you or what I love doing it yeah also directed by Harold Ramis I was going to say just about the state it just Harold himself just being around him it's just amazing give us anything about that he was just an amazing guy and he had such a knowledge for timing when he was dealing for because from me I mean I was a non comedic actor I still am I mean I can do comedy but it's not like you guys I just I just don't you guys are a certain breed and sure I'm not that breed yeah I assume you mean Jews and I mean I mean maybe not lovely yet and and um his timing was just so freakin good that he would say you know what he loved everything I was doing but he would say on this particular thing when when al says this you know you have to be this is your timing for that this is when you come in if there's it's not just one beat it's a beat and a half no you know and yeah you're you you're you know so it would he was so helpful and I would just sit next to them the whole day yeah because he was he had amazing stories about being wheeled around and when they were shooting the old film that he used to do with Bill Murray and stuff and you know everybody was so messed up that they would wheel them around on handcarts from blank and I messed up of course you mean yeah hi yeah yeah and I just pictured the to them being wheeled around on head cut I don't think I've ever heard that yes it's spectacular yeah that's directly from hero's mouth yeah Kenny that's something to aspire to we were so messed up they would get us about in hand trucks I think is what we're talking about movie why I think he knows and uh yes please I was just fun and al was also very sweet to me they were they were just amazing don't to work on because of the it was my first introduction to professional comedy like the big guys well yeah you know they mean later Aled been writing for so long by that up for SNL and and and his making he's making his own movies and stuff and Harold was very successful at the time and funny as hell also a good actor Harold so to work with these guys was extraordinary for me I soaked it all up my paragraphs yeah yeah and they knew it you know and you guys know it you guys know when you're good you guys have this thing that you guys do that you know you're good and you have that thing that you do because you know you're good yeah and it's I think it's extraordinary and I probably just stage presence yeah something like that yeah when you trust your instincts in a live staged performance as a Broadway actor and the audience's reaction is instant and then over time you start to develop confidence based on your instincts being confirmed that times a million first comedians yeah because it's just live all the time yeah and it's just something that I could never be it's not part of my deal like I'll never learn that it's a different yeah make I can be directed to do that but it's not instinctual like there's with you guys because of this $10,000 yeah - ooh yeah yeah that's all it is yeah from the experience a couple things kill the Irishman everyone loves a good Christopher Walken story and anything come from nothing like I I don't do an impression of him or anything and and and not necessary well that does it that you have a very famous one and and but he was just really sweet to me and I'm always I beat these actors who I've looked up to for so long right we were the generation before me and you know every time I meet them I'm always just amazed by how sweet they are to me and how nice they are to me and you know they also don't talk a lot you know and that suits me just fine you know and when you meet heroes I think the first thought is you just don't want to be off put by a fantasy version of them being shattered but when they actually have compliments towards your work it resonates in a way that doesn't exist in normal life it really does yeah you're really going that's so true and so he was like that to me he was super kind and when we were doing scene together which was I think we just did one scene together you know he fell into we we fell into the way that we do things very naturally and he immediately are blocking immediately was in sync with each other a lot of times when there are actors that have this kind of actory reputation a lot of times you get left to do your own blocking even though the director might have something in mind of like he wants to shoot in this direction and the direction you use that as your stage and then you block within that you know and it's one of the things I noticed that our blocking fell in really natural with each other's and and you know we didn't really say much we sat next to each other for hours but we really say much I'm very similar to that I definitely talk a lot and and he left a bottle of wine at my door with a little note like very classy very you know it just made me smile and you know really a really classy taught me a little bit of class but they and that's the only story I already had one yeah yeah lecture talking about cooking he he's a man of few words we saw him in the McDonough play of the handing in Spokane and went up and just said hello afterwards and there was not a lot of conversation I took from that meeting was that he labeled all his personal belongings with duct tape that said see period walkin and that like idiosyncrasy like really stock items like what like a duffel bag or but it wasn't really just a piece of duct tape that he wrote on with like a sharpie and said see period walking I don't know I don't know yeah that's like a theater thing though that's like we all do that it's like a not all of us but it's a theater thing because you if you're sharing a space with a lot of other actors making up a huge make up disappears and you get used to that officially obviously had a dressing room and he still did it is a ritual yeah wavelet maker yes the duct tape is awesome actually yeah yeah yeah I thought I guess but you know like brush it you know makeup brushes and you know things disappear sure yeah oh I know I said I've lost many a thing in my dream there we go props again we buy spend money on props doesn't either like they go in the green room and they never come out how'd you have gotten a piece of duct tape and another half that's it that's the answer those you're gonna have to label at Seattle there's been so many I'd be remiss if I didn't say your character in the Salton Sea was to bring a man just there there's a clinic just watch some of that over and over again there are certain performances that you just go okay well here's something from another world and another form of life that Cadden crossed my mind I'm going to get lost in it has to be again I have to give Val and DJ crew sue the credit for for being open I mean DJ DJ wanted me to play the part so bad and I had just done the cell and I didn't feel like playing another [ __ ] and but then I was I was doing a film I was doing a movie I did about these boys with Jilly foster forgot none of it and we're doing lives of altar boys dangerous lines of altar boys and I'm doing that and he calls me and he says you know I really want you to do this thing I'm like yeah and so I said I'll read the script together and so I read it again and I took it to this park and in Charlotte and this guy threw down a blanket with his girlfriend next to me and he was goober like exactly he had to know he had a nose but but he had blond spiked hair with black tips and no black hair with blond tips he had a little goatee black goatee he was wearing shorts and a dead kennedys t-shirt with you know army boots and I'm like okay I'm like oh okay I could do this so I called him immediately when I got back to the hotel and I said look there's two things I'm going to put on about 20 maybe 25 pounds I said I have this look that I have a - black goatee with you know blonde tips and I want the line there was one line at another character set I said have you cast the other character yet and they said no I said good can I say put your peepee in the hole I want that line and he said yes and so lousy Wow yeah and sometimes that connection just happens yeah for whatever reason yeah sat down next you want a blanket in the park yeah because you chose to go to the park that day yeah to read the script yeah and he would click perfect and reasonably didn't want to do yeah and commended think about higher powers and universes with right like they write so so then during the shoot you know these two guys valent and and DJ they were so open to anything that I had to bring there's so much improvisation in that there's so much dialogue that I made up beforehand that I had just written out myself he let me go on about brains and about there's a free association is this thing that I think when I pick up the to oven gloves and I say you know I you know like a dog you know and and all that that's that's all stuff that they just let me you know wing yeah yeah and the reason why you know I mean I just for people that aren't on set as much as we are because I know you know this you know the idea of that kind of Tom being set where there's no ego there's no holdup there's no negativity and the fact that you're creating em and that and that there's nothing but positive you know stuff being thrown at you you know you can't lose in the situation now yeah man excited you're going to have to come back because there's so much more and I could go on I'll catch up oh great yeah four hours I can't thank you enough honestly and truly I hope you enjoy the rest of your time up in lunch yeah thank you and then in Vancouver and I'll text you the restaurant yes please yes then great Pina yeah so we end the show in an odd way okay yeah we're gonna draw up on some of those improvisational skills of you know yeah it's called the Larry King game we invite you to play all right the Larry King game is pretty straightforward it starts with you doing a bad Larry King impression so there's no pressure to just actually sound like it I only like patents and then it's that moment right before Larry goes to the phones where he looks down the barrel the camera shares something about himself that new one needed to know and I mean no one hmm he likes Oreo cookies or his first run or pterodactyl whatever the [ __ ] I do so it's about Larry a little piece of Larry that he insists on sharing no one means and then he goes to the phones and they feel free to name out a city that he goes to whatever comes come up there's your camera that's all we need you to do when you are ready bad Larry King impression he shares something that no one needs to know he goes to the phones and that was a wonderful interview let me go to the phones I just want to say that the I've run out of the bleach that gets rid of the stains on my underwear and it's it's caked up and I feel it as I'm speaking about Arkansas yes people that's how you apply the Larry King game and by the way when your surgeon for a guru who's on the phone like a spade yes I arrived until I salute that open it up Thank You Man and now please sit there in Company B while I wrap things up for the folks at home and around the globe Sammy and Jamie thank you as always so that the words so great to have you back and thanks for the assist on today's guest evil dr. Kenny Chen thanks for getting it done as you do Mike Suman up there in the cosmos with Jason McIntyre the aforementioned the summer get Luke gallant and our love again goes out to Brian yeah he can bend on me it's fine yes yes thank you Cory Levin on the post who aren't forgetting I always forget someone somehow maybe not this one's self O'Brien Macaulay get well get better let us know how we can help until next time and as always get out of my face [Music] [Applause] [Music] Hey [Music]

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Length: 95min 1sec (5701 seconds)

Published: Tue May 23 2017