Keith Urban Talks About “Wild Hearts” & Performs Snippets of Songs

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the friday morning conversation with keith urban how you doing buddy i'm good i hit we hit when you were playing record on something there um when you're at home and you have instruments all over and i feel like your mind is always at least when i've been around you just creating all the time will you just grab an instrument be like oh i got to get this out of my system or or no or at home not so much but if you go down into like the studio that's where you do that anywhere you know do you have instruments strategically placed like near your toilet where you just grab them and be like i got a little song idea here i don't have one in the toilet no because if i could play like you i think i'd have one everywhere you would just never leave the toilet that's what you're saying right yep now just hang in there i do a lot of good work in the shower right yes ideas come in the shower why do you think that is because you're doing something you don't have to think about and it liberates you and it's a good feeling because i feel like i get my best i at least ideas i feel are strong are in the shower or like ideas for like comedy bits or songs for like comedy songs i'm like dang but then what if i'm just like sitting on the couch i cannot i don't have that same like freedom for some reason no no i hear you where will you put yourself if you're like all right i've got like three days to create or think like where will you put yourself to really make sure you get the best out of you oh that's a good question um i'm more creative in the morning i don't i don't really get creative crazy late at night um unless we're touring and then i find i come off stage and i've got a lot of ideas i'd love to get in a studio sometimes after a gig do you ever line that up or or is it something you just feel randomly so you can't really line a studio up after a show oh you can but um i haven't done it i i have done it before but i haven't done it in a long time but sometimes that's the when you're in the flow you know you've just come off stage you just everything's flowing when you're on stage do you ever get a couple of ideas for a song like i have to remember this i'm playing a song that everybody knows but i just had a great idea is would you ever jot something down or talking to be like hey remember the idea here i got a song called love on a butterfly would that ever happen what's the title love on a butterfly love on a butterfly yeah i like that play along i'll sing it for you i was floating early one morning [Music] i was reaching for the sky i didn't know that what i had was love on a butterfly thank you wow yeah it just flew away and then it died no it got swatted and died yes quick does that ever happen where you're up there and you're like metaphorically i got a great idea but i gotta save it um at soundcheck it happens a lot not in a gig i've never had it happen in a gig it's too many things going on in a gig will you ever play at a sound check and kind of work through a song that you're writing and have somebody record it yeah yeah yeah absolutely any of the good ones come from that uh i think some riffs have come a lot of riffs have come from that yeah define a riff like a guitar riff or like a vocal all the above vocal riff yeah melody of some sort either on guitar singing something like that after all of these awards and years of performing it still feels to me that when you do it like you still find like such purpose in performing right has that gone up or down or does it as you move along in your career does sometimes are you like super excited to go perform and others not so much like i don't you've just done something nice i feel the same as i always did like literally zero difference as far as getting on stage and playing i don't feel i need to how is that possible i i i it just is i mean literally i think because where i grew up in australia playing all the pubs and clubs where you walk out to a bunch of crossed arms and people going all right what do you do why should i care about this you know and you've got to come out and get get people engaged that's just in my dna it's never changed but you're crazy just indulge me for a second i understand that but you've been entertainer of the year multiples you've done it all and there never becomes a point where some of that shakes off and you become a little jaded you have to recheck yourself no really no i forget every i forget everything in a really good organic way i don't push it off i just don't i never think about it i'm always thinking about the next thing like always uh that is true i i can on a very small level vouch for that because i remember once being with you and you're like this is my album three albums from now but i'm like you're just putting this one out right now you're like yeah but i got this working over here so when you're putting out a project and we're hearing it you're already uh three steps ahead working on the next thing sometimes but then those songs don't and then you know you go to make the next album and those songs don't resonate the way they did a year before do you wish you could go back i'm gonna i'm gonna actually put you on this if you could go back and re-record one of your big pictures that's a good question like because you hear it now and you're like like what song would you go back and creatively transform ah wow that's a great question bobby i i don't think i don't think about re-recording anything i just think about certain songs that didn't get to be singles which was a bummer what would be that song off the last album a song called live with that i really hoped it was going to be a single but would you really hope you're keith urban if you wanted to be a single you walk in that office you put your foot down right and you say if you don't make this a single yeah i'm not gonna have an accent anymore and you give you threaten them with something that they didn't see coming at all right so if i threatened you with how long it takes songs to to get played how what would happen what would your reaction be not my problem that's what i would say but i would think at this point when you have a favorite song you could just say i want this to be a single and they'd have to listen uh yeah except sometimes you're onto the next the next thing you know it's um i know when we had uh a song called you look good in my shirt it was gonna be the next single of that album and we had the first single off the next record ready to go so you go well do we come with the fifth single or do we come with the first single off the next record and so that song just misses its its shot and you're probably so excited about the next project that you more times than not just go let's just go to the next one right yeah it's unusual right now isn't it i mean as far as where songs go how they live how they get discovered what's classified a hit song these days there's so many metrics for all of that it's not a straight line like it used to be when you talk about singles and you know you would like this song did you have a song on the label said hey this is the song and you're like oh man i like it but i don't think it's a single and then you they went with it and it crushed and you were like wow i missed on that one because it's awesome blue anchor color isn't uh it's not a song that i didn't think was going to be a single but i had no idea it would resonate the way it did no idea and the label loved it and so do you just go okay guess what i do with my bosses you know what i'm gonna do this one because you would like me to do it but the next time i ask for one like i i you owe me one do you ever do that with them they will i mean they always default to the letting me sequence things the way that i've always done it really right from the beginning um but i'm i'm not always right i i get it wrong a lot i don't know you know you know with your show do you do bits that you go this is going to crash today and you do it and it's like okay i think i approach them all like okay and then we just see what happens right you know um yes there are sometimes i'm like but you must be surprised things that don't work i would think what okay i can't so here's the difference in the studio i can't really tell because i can't see the people but when i'm doing stand up right right and i'm like this bit is so funny right i will ride it and be like this is going to crush it's going to crush here it's going to crush here and then i do it and there's not a peep that to me stuns because i'm like but i've been i've done 400 shows and i at this point i feel like i can understand what's funny and what's not and then there will be times where i don't think a joke is that funny or it's just a throwaway line and they'll they will die laughing and i'll make a note they're like oh do that again yeah so yes okay so when you make a note do that again when you do it again is it as funny no no never i know because i whatever it was that i had then yeah yeah that maybe the tone yeah maybe how flippantly i taught it's never quite as funny you know there's a great expression that says the only real music is when a baby first cries after that the baby knows the mom will come running it's all she our business hmm it's all you know what i mean yeah yeah the truth in spontaneity of something that's why i think every show has to have constant spontaneity flowing not not not myopic repetition of the night before because it doesn't work it just doesn't work we've all been to shows where we're like ah that doesn't that feels a little phoned in as of as someone watching like a fan yeah yeah absolutely i would before i got into this art i don't think i ever felt i thought every show was awesome and i just but now i can see it i think because i'm so inside of it i'll be like oh they're not feeling it right now right or but then i would talk to like other people they're like i know this is the greatest show ever it's it's a weird dynamic now watching a show for me because i can't really which is why i don't go to many the last five shows i've been to were all yours and just watching in your window just watching you play at home that's all i do it's my face it's only showing you yeah that was me so the bush is wrestling let's talk about wild hearts for a second because here we go we got another one here i was talking to brad turcy who one of the writers on the song and he was complimenting you so much as a songwriter because he said you know we had this song him and two of my friends eric pasley and jen wayne yeah like we had written this song and sent it to keith and keith was like love the the hook and the melody and you tell me if this is all true or not but the the verse is some of the don't fit me right now and you were like can i rewrite it and he said yeah and then i asked him i put him on the spot i said did he rewrite it or did he add a couple words and i knew what his answer was going to be he goes no he rewrote all the verses and so when that happens and someone sends you a song and you go dang like i really what what about the song drew you in and then what did you feel that made you want to change up some of the lyrics i got sent the song by roxy king at universal and i listened to it and i went ah i like it but it's not staying with me so i i passed on the song and about two weeks later i woke up one morning singing this chorus of a song and i go what what is that melody and it was wild hearts so i got the song back out listen to it again and i went man i love this chorus but the verses don't speak to me but it's a really it's a song about chasing your dreams right you know going after it no matter what against all odds um the verses probably need to be a bit more autobiographical for me um to make it make the chorus land properly for me so i called roxy and i said do you think the writers would be okay if i rewrote the verses i've never done it in my life ever never never ever done this and they were game for it so they sent me the track with no no words and then i just wrote the verses when you write the verses and it's coming from your story your mind your heart do they just fall out of you at that point or do you just spend a lot do you spend extra time because you're also working with someone else's canvas they just had a good structure so um it was just about being truthful so you know one morning i literally just hit play got my little pad out and i'm just writing and i thought well if it's about my particular journey where did that start and i went well probably when my mum and dad took me to see johnny cash when i was five start there it was like oh saw the man in black spotlight in the air but the boom and then it just it just flowed you saw johnny cash at five years old now how much of that do you actually remember i remember well the images i remember uh are kind of in the song um i remember this really the loudest i mean i'm only five and been around a lot of people uh in these big settings before it's like five thousand seat hall drunk rowdy loud fun people like really working class where i grew up that was exciting going into the hall i remember it being deafening in the hall and i don't know where our seats were probably of the nosebleeds and then i remember going pitch black and this big spotlight coming across our heads and when you know when you're five that beam is surreal i've never seen anything like it and then it's hitting this guy up on the stage everyone's screaming going crazy and then i remember looking up at my dad and seeing the way that he was looking at this guy on stage and probably i might take a child psychologist to confirm it probably wondering what have i got to do to get my dad to look at me that way so that's why that line in there you know heard a thousand screams saw my daddy stare is is in the song do you know a lot of johnny cash stuff since that was such an imprint like did it as a young kid did you i wanna also learn some stuff from johnny cash um i learned a few of his songs for sure but i mean that voice is so unique and i didn't have that not not when i started singing a plane at six seven eight years old that sounded like dolly parton i did i could sing in her key you know so i sang all of her songs what was your front yard like as a kid i wonder what you're like you think back and it's hard for me to think and remember anything earlier than five years old like that's probably where it starts for me but like what was what was the front yard like at your house i always think we we confuse memories with photographs and vice versa um we moved around all the time never owned a house just rented and moved from house to house to house all the time so it is a constant change of frank yeah do you have a home that you feel like is like if i were like what's the house you consider yourself that you grew up in can you picture that house or is again were you moving so much we moved all the time i went to like six different schools in about five years um dang six goals so did you learn how to um moving so much meeting a lot of new people you constantly had to make new friends did that make you withdraw more into music or did it create some sort of you can now blend in with anyone and you can now kind of assimilate no problem i think it was a bit of both and the guitar was really helpful i mean you know it's a physical thing it's like the security blanket right there in front of you this little protective shield so it was helpful for that uh and it had mixed benefits when you're a boy in a school and you play the guitar and sing and have long hair like i did it's a mixed blessing were you a small kid yeah when did you grow uh tuesday yesterday i felt that one i kind of set you up for that one right there yes so here's the three things i want to know what makes you happy personal professional then you get kind of a grab bag you can pick whatever you want but so what makes you genuinely happy right now keith urban who we see has it all right but but seeing it isn't always real life right definitely isn't at all but what makes you happy right now at this stage of your career and your life um all of it uh the balance that i've that i've found um and can maintain better than ever uh between work and home life because it's it you know it's it's complicated up for anybody family work different you've only got so much of your time where does it go uh how much do you give to writing songs being with your family touring doing this you know um so i think being able to balance that better than i used to so what's the key thing because that's honestly the biggest struggle that i have right now right been married a year basically and my struggle is figuring out how to balance because i've never had to balance right right i've been extremely selfish and that it's just always been about me not that i want to keep everything but it's like i only have to worry about me my whole life yeah and now i don't just have to worry about me it's worry i have to actually care and like want to lift the other person up right my wife so what's what's that advice you would give me then because balance is tough for me yeah um well it's never achieved it's just maintained and that to me was a shock like you mean i got to do it all the time like i wasn't used to maintaining anything i was terrible at it giving stuff up or passing opportunities has been a very difficult one because i feel like i've just worked so hard to get any opportunity at all right just scratching clawing and then you start to get them and then now i'm going you know what maybe i shouldn't do this because what i can do is i can spin create some balance but that's been very difficult was that something with you where you're like hey i go do this show or this but but this is also as important because i'm investing into the relationship was that just a place that you got to one day and it made sense or is that still something you constantly have to focus on um sort of a bit of everything i mean constantly i'm not definitely stuff goes out of whack you know all the time and i think the only difference is the speed of which i correct things or the fact that i actually do correct it you know that's the thing that's changed in my life i never used to recognize things falling out of balance it's terrible how do you recognize it now because i'm told that's how i recognize it yeah yeah i'm told i'm sorry i'm learning yes and then you just have this feeling that happens where you start to be with somebody that you go i can feel like i've completely i'm dropping the ball here i just feel like it all the time but it's when i don't when i'm like oh i'm actually doing pretty good here right uh keith urban is here what have you learned in your year of marriage bobby um that's a great question a lot i have learned that i am not the sun and all the planets revolve around the sun because i have just been able to be the sun and in good times and bad meaning as a kid all the way up into my early 20s i was the surviving sun meaning i had to survive everything was about me just trying to have money to pay rent or eat or school clothes or and it was all about what i could but now i don't have to be the sun anymore i think a lot of me being the sun in the solar system was it was forced i had i was everything had to rotate around me because right it was a necessity that i just look out for me or i wouldn't survive yeah now that makes sense yeah i don't have to be the sun anymore and it is a relief as much as it is difficult at times so you can't just turn it off right it correct and that is uncomfortable sometimes but it's a good you don't grow without having some uncomfortability in anything you just don't you know human you get taller it hurts you learn a skill it sucks because you you're not good at it at first right so to grow you've got to have a little bit of uncomfortability and that to me has been what i've learned is that i don't have to do everything by myself i don't have to be the sun right i can i can roll and be a batman robin and sometimes i'm robin and sometimes i'm batman and that's okay so that's that's what i'm still learning so yeah that that's the situation there picturing you in tights now it's just a very awkward vision you don't have a picture i'll send you a picture of it you don't have to pick your head yeah i've got a couple pictures of me and tight so he's done all right listen we've talked a long time i know you have your guitar over here um and i don't have anything crazy planned but would you mind grabbing it for a second yeah do you we were talking about i'm gonna put you a little bit on the spot here because i feel comfortable enough to do that we were talking on the show maybe a week or so ago about the most romantic songs of all time not just country but just period and i'd picked the pretenders i'll stand by you which is just a great song that's a great song often overlooked i picked uh the beach boys god only knows god only knows if i were to ask you and you have your guitar and if you can think what a great opening line of that song by the way go ahead may not always love you i may not always love you as long as there are stars above you you'll have no need to doubt it i'll make you sure about it oh my gosh isn't that such a great unbelievable lyric so what's the most romantic song two parts that you have and just give me a little 15 20 30 seconds of it and then period in your mind uh i've been asked that question before and and um did i lose my mic no you're there i lost you may have pulled your headphones out i lost my headphones um god only knows was always my number one song for i think one of the greatest love songs ever basically we're the same person musically keith urban himself you just heard it here it's true because it's just such a that opening line always grabbed me i may not always love you it's like what that's a love song but then when you hear the rest of it you say oh my gosh yeah that's it that's the best one ever but what about yours now in your arsenal you have to look at it objectively what is your most romantic song my most romantic song [Music] oh i don't know i don't that's i'm maybe not the the one to ask that of right but you are because i'm asking you and you're here okay okay i can't pick one i think i think um making memories which i didn't write that's a rodney crowl's film but i think that's one of the most beautiful songs where do you fall in that spectrum of your mind just understanding music the more you learn the more you actually can do um i think it's balance actually i think you can know too much and get in the way of creativity are there people that you know let me ask a different way they can hear and and figure it out quicker and better than you can like just hearing it going over internet and you're like wow i can't believe they just figured that out oh for sure yeah of course yeah because i did that to you yeah and you do that to other people and you go wow i cannot believe they just figured that out by hearing that one time and then now they know the whole song yeah know that some people have that skill they're just i mean in in the sessions you see the you know a lot of the session leaders just chatting at the song as it's going but you have that skill like you just said let me figure this out and you went all the way up and found it sure do you understand that you have that are you so good you don't even know it's like being good looking like maybe you don't even know how good looking you are the i mean i hit i mean if you played it back you'd know i hit a wrong chord here and within a second found the right one i wouldn't know that okay i'm going to play the back okay listen we're here let me say a few things uh wild hearts going for number one which we're pumped about you guys should go watch keith's vegas residency at the coliseum at caesar's palace may 27-29 that show is pretty fun or do you feel so fun do you feel restricted because you're in a casino no because that venue is like the perfect combination of like club because people are standing and then there's theater seating and then it's like an arena size sort of stage so you get all those three venues rolled into one it's amazing do you ever finish a show because you're going back on your u.s leg it's starting june 17th you ever finished a show and you've been out there for 90 minutes you know more than that you're like dang i wish i could just play another hour yeah oh yeah do you ever do a show and that's what happens to me sometimes where i'm doing comedy and i'm like man this has been a tough hour and i look down it's only 12 minutes in right where i'm like oh man i'm just i thought we were a lot further in this does that ever happen that hasn't happened in a long time you still it's the opposite for sure it's really hard when you've got a you've got to be off stage at a certain time that's really really hard for me we used to do this bit i'll land on this we would go to places eddie and i would play shows at festivals and or we'd play our own show and we'd say okay it's curfew they tell us every minute we play after this they're going to find us right but we're lying but we get the crowds do you want us to keep playing it's gonna cost us 4 000 off we play like six more songs and they're they're just going absolutely bananas because they think we're spending our own i don't understand why they like to see us in pain but they love it if you'd like to steal that for your show be like we're going to play and they're going to charge us they're real things though but that it really is you do get findings for us though they don't care about us okay keith urban check out the live shows dude it's the best you will see i've said it many times wild hearts going for number one what's the what's next after this yeah is it another single from the project are we moving on brand new brand new okay brand new music i heard you heard it here yeah okay keith great to see you you're my favorite always all right everybody say bye to keith and that's that's showbiz baby
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Length: 25min 30sec (1530 seconds)
Published: Fri Jun 03 2022
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