John McWhorter Discusses ‘Woke Racism’ Book on Anti-Racism

EIGHT NOW WELCOME BACK TO. >> BLACK NEWS TONIGHT MY NEXT GUEST IS CALLED BOTH AH CONSERVATIVE AND A LIBERAL A REACTIONARY AND A THOUGHTFUL MAN. JUST DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK HE NOW ARGUES THAT THE CURRENT ANTI RACISM IDEOLOGY IS A NEW RELIGION OF. THE LEFT THE RENOWNED LINGUIST JOHN MCWHORTER IS IN. >> INTERESTING SPACE IN HIS NEW BOOK WOKE RACISM HE LASHES OUT AT WHAT HE CALLS THE THIRD WAVE ANTI RACISM WHICH POSITIONS RACISM TO BE THE TOTALITY OF BLACK AMERICAN EXPERIENCE AND. HE ALSO CALLS OUT THE BLACK ELECT NAMES SUCH AS EVE FROM CANDY TAINA HAS HE COACHED THE COLD HAND OF ARE THE FOLKS WHO HE ARGUES AND FANTA LIES BLACK PEOPLE I ALWAYS FIND JOHN TO BE PROVOCATIVE AND THOUGHTFUL AND INTERESTING AND CIVIL AND. THAT'S WHY I LOVE TALKING TO HIM. THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON BLACK NEWS TONIGHT RIGHT NOW AGAIN DAMMIT WAR THE AUTHOR OF WOKE RACISM. HE'S ALSO BY THE WAY HAS A DAY JOB HE'S AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF ENGLISH AND COMPARATIVE LITERATURE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. JOHN GOOD TO SEE YOU AS ALWAYS BEFORE ASKING WHY YOU SEE ANTI RACISM AS A NEW RELIGION OF OF THE LEFT OUR FIRST WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY ANTI RACISM IDEOLOGY. >> WELL WHAT I MEAN IS ANTI RACISM IN THIS MODERN GOD DON'T MEAN CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISM I DON'T MEAN WHAT WE THOUGHT OF AS ANTI RACISM. IF WE USE THAT WORD AND SAY TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN I. >> MEAN THIS NEW IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK OF YOURSELF. IF YOU'RE WHITE AS COMPLICITY AND. THEREFORE GUILTY WITH IN AN ABSTRACT SYSTEM THAT YOU NEED TO THINK OF WHITENESS AS A STATE OF FRAGILITY BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT JUST HOW DEEPLY RACIST THEY ARE AND ALSO WHERE WE SEE WHOLE INSTITUTIONS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN WHERE THERE'S A FOCUS ON BATTLING POWER DIFFERENTIALS AS THE MAIN MEAL. >> RATHER THAN ONE OF ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT MANY PEOPLE THINK OF AS QUOTE UNQUOTE CRAZY WOKE NOUS AND I DON'T THINK IT'S CRAZY I'M NOT INTO CALLING PEOPLE NAMES BUT IT'S THIS THING THAT'S CONFUSING A LOT OF PEOPLE INCLUDING BLACK PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO QUESTION SOME OF ITS BASIC UNDERPIN IT'S. >> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DO IN THE BOOK EYES YOU LAY OUT WHO YOUR AUDIENCE IS YOU KNOW BECAUSE THE DEFAULT ASSUMPTION IS THAT YOU'RE WRITING THIS BOOA WAY. TEO YOU KNOW GET BOOK SALES FROM CONSERVATIVES WHO ALREADY AGREE WITH YOU OR WHITE PEOPLE YOU WOULD TRUST THIS ARGUMENT FROM A BLACK VOICE IN THE BOOK YOU STARTED YOU GET IT THIS BUT A PERSON WHO IS THE AUDIENCE FOR THIS FOR THIS BOOK AND WHY'D YOU WRITE IT. >> YOU KNOW I THINK I SHOULD SAY ONE THING THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE LIKE ME WITH SITTING THINK. I'M GOING TO WRITE A BOOK FOR WHITE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE ABSOLVED OF THEIR RACISM BECAUSE THEY'LL GIVE ME A LOT OF MONEY. WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING WOULD THAT BE? THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING I HAVE EVER THOUGHT OR BEN. THIS IS A BOOK FOR BLACK AMERICA THIS IS A BOOK FOR WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT RACISM AND WANT TO BE THE BEST PEOPLE THEY COULD BE. BUT OUR BEING I THINK DISTRACTED BY THIS NOTION THAT VIRTUE SIGNALING AND POLICING LANGUAGE AND EXAMINING YOUR COMPLICITY. IS THE SAME THING IS HELPING BLACK PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP OUT IN THE REAL WORLD I WROTE THIS BOOK BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE HAVE A DETOUR IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS REVOLUTION I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT CIVIL RIGHTS REVOLUTION WAS GOOD.. >> I AM NOT A MAN OF THE RIGHT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK TH REPUBLICAN I GET WHY THEY THINK THAT BUT. I'M NOT. I'VE NEVER VOTED REPUBLICAN IN MY LIFE I WANT US TO GET BACK TO HELPING BLACK PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP AND THIS NEW VERSION OF ANTI RACISM STRIKES ME AS BEING MOHR ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THINGS AND SHOWING EACH OTHER THAT WE'RE SOPHISTICATED. I THINK THAT'S GOOD.. >> I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE FOR THE BOOK IS THAT THE FOR ME IS THAT THE SUM OF THE ARGUMENTS YOU MAKE CERTAINLY GIVE SPACE FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO YOU DON'T VOTE FOR WHO YOU DON'T IDENTIFY WITH. >> >> DISMISS LEGITIMATE ACTS OF RACISM SO THEY'LL TAKE YOUR CHRISTY TEEGAN EXAMPLE OR THEY'LL TAKE YOUR EXAMPLE YOU GIVE IN THE BOOK OF THE DEAN WHO SAID THAT BLACK LIVES MATTER BUT ALSO EVERY LIFE MATTERS. ON WAS ABLE TO KEEP THE DANGER BILL DRAWN THOSE EXAMPLES IS EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE WOKE ISM WORD I HATE AS YOU DO GOING AMOK AND THAT THERE ARE NO LEGITIMATE INSTANCES OF RACISM THERE NO. THERE ARE NO. LEGITIMATE WAYS THAT INSTITUTIONS AND FACULTY MEMBERS AND POLICE AND POLITICIANS ARE ACTUALLY UNDERMINING. >> THE CAPACITY FOR BLACK OPLEO PRPER THI COUNTRY. >> SURE BUT THE THING IS FOR THE AUDIENCE THAT I'M WRITING TOO. WE ALL KNOW THAT RACISM EXISTS FRANKLY IT'S AN OLD POINT. WE KNOW WE'VE EXPERIENCED IT NOW ARE THERE SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO TAKE MY WRITINGS AND MISINTERPRET THEM FROM THE RIGHT WING SURE BUT QUESTION IS DOES THAT MEAN THAT I SHOULDN'T OR MORE TO THE POINT. >> DOESN'T MEAN THAT I SHOULD ONLY RIGHT IN A WAY THAT I AM AND ALL SO MUCH THAT I NEVER REALLY SAID. ANYTHING AND NOBODY READS IT NO AND THE REASON THAT I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WHAT'S FACES THEY'RE PELE W AREO THLEFTF ME. WHO HAVE FOR EXAMPLE THEM OR IF I'M A STRIDENT ANTI RACIST MESSAGE THEIR VIEWS ARE MISINTERPRETED AND MISCONSTRUED AND UTILIZED BY THE HARD RIGHT WHERE THEY SAY OH LOOK AT ALL OF THIS RIDICULOUSNESS. AND YET WE WOULD NEVER SAY AND THOSE PEOPLE DON'T WRITE WHAT YOU WRITE BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE ALRIGHT IS GOING TO MISREPRESENT IT. WELL IT'S THE SAME THING. HERE ARE ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE MISREPRESENTED BY PEOPLE WE WOULD RATHER NOT DO IT TO AN EXTENT BUT THE QUESTION IS DOES THAT MEAN THAT ONE WE DON'T WRITE OR TWO MORE OF THE POINT THAT WE HAVEN'T ALL SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T SAY ANYTHING I'M SORRY BUT I CAN'T DO THAT. LIFE IS SHORT. >> I WON'T BELABOR THIS APPOINTMENT I WOULD PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT AND SAY I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS IF THE DOMINANT READING OF THE TEXT OF THE DOMINANT ER PRETTY ATION OF A TEXAS IS ONE THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE AUTHOR INTENDS AND THE AUTHOR ALSO HAS TO BE SORT OF SELF CRITICAL ACCOUNTABLE ABOUT THE POLITICAL WORK TO WHICH THE TEXT HAS USED EVEN IF THE OFFICE INTENTION IS SOMEWHAT IS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT. IT'S MEI ON OWN KIND OF PUSH BACK AGAINST THE KIND OF POSTMODERN THE DEATH OF THE OFFICE ND O ARGUMENTS YOU KNOW BUT I DO WANT TO PUSH YOU PUSH A LITTLE BIT ON. >> ONE OF THE ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS YOU MAKE WHICH IS THAT? THERE'S A SORT OF CONTRADICTORY POSITION. THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE FORCED INTO WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF OF OF OF PEOPLE OF COLOR BUT NOT LISTEN TO LOUD OR YOU GET TEN OR TWELVE SORT OF EXAMPLES OF SOME CONTRADICTIONS THAT TO ME DIDN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE CONTRADICTION. THEY JUST FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF BEING WHITE OR SOME OF THE LEGITIMATE RESPONSIBILITIES. RATHER OF BEING WHITE IN A WHITE PREMIST RLD ULD FIRST BUT COULD YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE SORT OF CONTRADICTIONS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT? GOOD. >> HERE'S. >> THE ANSWER TO WHAT YOU SAY I'M ER FIRST OF ALL I WANT AND I WILL GET TO THE CONTRADICTIONS. THE BOOK IS ABOUT WHAT WILL TURN BLACK AMERICA UPSIDE DOWN. THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN AND PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST ALL ABOUT ME COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS PEOPLE SAID. AT THE END OF THE BOOK AT LENGTH I TALKED ABOUT HERE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED BECAUSE THEY'RE BLACK PEOPLE. WE NEED AND THAT IS NOT PLAYING INTO THE RIGHT WEIGHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TELLING PEOPLE THEY NEED TO PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR OWN BOOTSTRAPS OR PULL THEIR PANTS UP. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BOOK IS THAT I AM WRITING BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED. ABOUT YOU KNOW THE SAME THINGS THAT I THINK YOU ARE MARK. WHAT ABOUT? THE CONTRADICTIONS? LET'S TRY THIS I'M GOING TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS IN THE LIST THAT YOU SAID IF YOU KNOW A WHITE PERSON WHO NEVER DATES ANYBODY BLACK YOU THINK WELL THAT MUST BE BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST.. THEN IF YOU KNOW A WHITE PERSON AND YOU SEE THEM DATING A BLACK PERSON YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SAY WELL WE HAVE TO ALLOW FOR YOU KNOW SAY IT STRAIGHT BUT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THE FACT THAT MAYBE THEY'RE EXOTIC FLYING THAT PERSON BOTH THINGS. NOW IF YOU HATE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS AT ECTLY IS A WHITE PERSON'S SUPPOSED TO DO NOW? MY POINT IS NOT JUST TO SAY. YEAH YEAH THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE'RE TAUGHT THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO IDENTIFY POSSIBLE INSTANCES OF RACISM IN EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE AND I'M SAYING THAT THAT EXERCISE AND IT BECOMES KIND OF. AN EXERCISE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HELPING BLACK PEOPLE AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER. I THINK WE'RE DISTRACTED BY POSTURING. >> OVER WHAT I THINK OF HIS ACTUAL ACTIVIST ANI GUS FO ME THAT FRAMING MAKES IT SEEM AS IF BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD ME THAT FRAMING MAKES IT SEEMS OF WHITE PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO CONFRONT AN IMPOSSIBLE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH TO ME IN CARDS RIGHT BUT JUST THROW THEIR HANDS UP AND SAY WELL THESE PEOPLE ARE NEVER GOING TO BE SATISFIED. SO I MIGHT AS WELL MIGHT AS WELL JUST LIVE LIKE A CZ NORMAL AS OPPOSED TO SAYING HEY. MY LACK OF ATTRACTION TO ON AND THEY'RE MAKING ME TAKE A BREAK SO BUT MY LACK OF A WHITE PERSON YOU COULD SEND A WHITE PERSON LOOK MAYBE IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN ATTRACTED TO A BLACK PERSON THAT COULD BE ROOTED IN SOME KIND OF ANTI BLACKNESS. RIGHT WI HIMTHAT THEAME ING ESSION FOR BLACK PERSON WHOSE ONLY DATE DOT WELCOME. >> BACK TO BLACK NEWS TONIGHT I'M CONTINUING MY DISCUSSION WITH JOHN MCWHORTER AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK WOKE RACISM JOHN THANKS FOR JOINING ME AGAINST I'M PULLED UP A RIGID BOOK ON MY KINDLE WHICH IS A REALLY BAD THING TO DO IS A BOOKSTORE OWNER. DON'T TELL ANYBODY.. BUT IF IF YOU'RE YOU WROTE TO YOU ABOUT A BUNCH OF POINTS HERE. BUT I'M GONNA TO JUST BRING UP TO ONE THE ONE THAT WE WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT RIGHT YOU SAID. IF YOU'RE WHITE AND DATE ONLY WHITE PEOPLE YOUR RACIST. ON THE OTHER HAND IF YOU'RE FRIGHTENED. DATA BLACK PERSON YOU ARE ONLY DEEP DOWN EXOTIC FI ING AND OTHER. I THINK UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU STIPULATE THAT WOULD BE A CONTRADICTION BUT I THINK IN THIS TO ME HAPPENS A FEW TIMES IN THE BOOK YOU SEEM TO BE OVERSIMPLIFYING THE ARGUMENT THAT'S COMING FROM THIS THIRD WAVE ANTI RACIST MOVEMENT THE ARGUMENT IS MORE. NOT IF YOU ONLY THE WHITE PEOPLE YOU'RE A RACIST. BUT IF BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY. FUCKING DATE WHO YOU WANT. BUT THE QUESTION IS THE. WHY RIGHT THE QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE WE INTERNALIZED THE IDEA THAT THAT WHITENESS IS SUPERIOR THE BLACKNESS IS IS AESTHETICALLY AND MORALLY AND CULTURALLY INFERIOR FOR BLACK OR WHITE FOLK IN. SIMILARLY IF YOU'RE OBSESSED WITH ONLY DATING BLACK PEOPLE. BUT WHY IT'S THE WHY BEHIND IT I GIVE ONE MORE EXAMPLE THEN I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE. TO RESPOND YOU SAID WHEN WHITES MOVE AWAY FROM BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S WHITE FLIGHT AND WHEN RIGHT TO MOVE GERIFITIONVEN WHEN THEY PAY BLACK RESIDENTS GENEROUS GENEROUSLY FOR THEIR HOUSE. AGAIN IT APPLES TO APPLES THAT WOULD BE A CONTRADICTION BUT AGAIN THE WISE MATTER ARGUMENT HERE ISN'T JUST THAT WHITE PEOPLE MOVING MOVING AWAY FROM BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S IT'S THE IT'S RATHER MOVING AWAY. IT'S ALSO THAT THE STATE HAS INCENTIVIZED PEOPLE HISTORICALLY WHITE PEOPLE TO MOVE OUT THE TAX BASE SHIPS TAX POLICIES IT'S A WHITE SUPREMACIST IMPULSE HISTORICALLY PARTICULARLY AT SECOND LEAVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT MAKES THAT HAPPEN. AND CONVERSELY WHITE PEOPLE ARE JUST MOVING INTO BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS THERE'S AN ENTIRE SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SHIFTS WHEN THEY MOVE IN THAT PUSHES BLACK PEOPLE OUT AND DOESN'T ALWAYS EVEN IF THEIR PAID GENEROUSLY DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO RELOCATE HELP IN A HEALTHY WAY SO THERE ARE A LOT OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT UNDERGIRDS THES CIRCUMSTANCES THAT I THINK YOU IGNORE IN WAYS THAT GIVE LET PEOPLE OFF THE HOOK.. >> OK SO MARK HERE'S THE THING WHITE PEOPLE AND THE HOOK. WHAT'S THE POINT. >> I MEAN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE BEING ON THE HOOK FOR ABOUT FIFTY YEARS AND OFF A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED WHERE GREAT MANY WHITE PEOPLE REALISE THAT THEY'RE ON THE BOATAND EY DA BUH OF THINGS SOME OF THESE THINGS WERE SOME OF THEM DON'T AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR EXAMPLE WORK VERY WELL COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT OF NINETEEN SEVENTY FOUR DIDN'T WORK BUT THE MAIN POINT IS. WHY DON'T WE WORK ON THINGS THAT ACTUALLY SHOW EVIDENCE OF MAKING LIVES BETTER FOR BLACK PEOPLE. >> AGITATING FOR THOSE THINGS COMING UP WITH A FEW THINGS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE HOPE OF BECOMING LEGISLATION IN THE SCLEROTIC CONGRESS THAT WE HAVE RATHER THAN SITTING AROUND OBSESSING OVER HOW RACIST OR NOT CERTAIN POLICIES MIGHT BE IF YOU ANALYZE THEM FROM A DISTANCE. >>. I THINK THAT WE GET DISTRACTED WITH THIS OVER INTELLECTUALIZE SCORE SETTLING VISION OF HOW YOU DEAL WITH RACISM RATHER THAN WORKING ON. WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP PEOPLE IN RIAL LIFE I HEAR EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING THESE THINGS ARE VERY REAL.. BUT IN THE END ISN'T THIS JUST A CONVERSATION THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME HAVE AND WE THROW OUR ARMS AROUND WE WRITE THINGS. BUT WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE? WHO NEED HELP BOTH OF US ARE PROBABLY RELATED TO PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP I THINK WE NEED TO GET ME CONCRETE ABOUT THESE THINGS.. >> I THINK THE CHALLENGE THOUGH JOHN IS THAT THE CONCRETE NOUS COMES PARTLY THROUGH SOCIAL POLICY AND TO SHIFT SOCIAL POLICY. WE NEED THE COMMITMENT OF OUR WHITE ALLIES WE NEED AH BROADER SLICE OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAN JUST BLACK PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE IF I WANT TO SHAPE HOUSING POLICY OR SHIFT HOUSING POLICY JUST USE THIS ONE EXAMPLE IS MUCH EASIER TO DO THAT IF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S AN URGENT PROBLEM. BUT WHI PEOE ARCONVCED THAT YOU KNOW THESE SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS AGAIN TERMS YOU DON'T USE AN EFFECT YOU YOU CRITIQUE IN THE BOOK THAT THESE SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS WILL NEVER BE HAPPY THEN IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR THEM. TO NOT BE INVESTED IN ANY KIND OF SOCIAL CHANGE. THIS ISN'T ME LOOKING FOR SOME KIND. OF RELIGIOUS LIKE CONVERSION OF WHITE PEOPLE ON THE RACIAL FRONT. IT'S ABOUT WANTING TO SHIFT POLICY AND SHIFT PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS WHICH WE CAN'T DO IF WE JUST CONCEDE THE GROUND THAT THIS IS A UNSOLVABLE ON IT. RETRACTABLE PROBLEM. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE RA I'MLAMI THE WHITE MAN FOR THAT. >> AND GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD. >> BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO SAY THAT REALLY WE HAVE TO THINK OF IT THIS WAY YOU SEE A BUNCH OF BLACK BOYS FOR REASONS BEYOND THEIR CONTROL KILLING EACH OTHER IN HUNDREDS IN BIG CITIES AND TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO SAY RACISM WERE GOING TO TELL WHITE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE RACIST. LET'S SEE IT RATHER UNFEELING AND TO THINK ABOUT WELL TO WHAT EXTENT DOES GOVERNMENT POLICY MAKE IT SO THAT WHITE PEOPLE KHUN GENTRIFIED BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS AND DOESN'T SUPPORT THE BLACK PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE WHO MIGHT HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THESE AERIAL THINGS BUT THE IDEA IS TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT SOLVE ALL THESE THINGS. MAKE REALIZE BETTER AND STOP FOCUSING ON SIMPLY TRYING TO FIND EVIDENCE OF PLACES WHERE RACISM MIGHT EXIST IT'S AN ACADEMIC EXERCISE AND IT LEAVES A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SCRAMBLING. WHO I THINK THAT ALL OF US COULD GIVE MORE CONCRETE HELP. THAT'S WHAT I'M ALL ABOUT. WELL JOHN AS ALWAYS WE DON'T AGREE BUT I REALLY APP THOUGHTFULNESS YOUR SINCERITY AND YOUR CONSISTENCY OF ARGUMENT. FOR WHATEVER ELSE PEOPLE SAY I DON'T READ YOU CYNICALLY I READ WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THESE ISSUES. EVEN WHEN WE STRONGLY STRONGLY STRONGLY DISAGREE. ON I LIVE FOR THE ALIEN AND AS ALWAYS MAN GOOD TO SEE YOU THERE YOU FAIR ENOUGH FAIR ENOUGH EVERYBODY IF YOU WANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND JOHN MAKE WHAT IS ARGUMENTS AND FORM YOUR OWN OPINION YOU SHOULD GET A COPY OF HIS NEW BOOK. IF HIS BOOK YOU DID NOT READ DO NOT MAKE HIM BLEED AS THE GREAT JESSE JACKSON WOULD PROBABLY SAY WHAT RACISM HOW A AMERICA IS A BOOK THAT IS AVAILABLE NOW IF YOU WANT TO

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