JFK (1991) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!

[Music] hey everyone welcome back to the channel my name is TBR Schmidt and this is my wife Samantha hello and today we are watching JFK what do you know about this movie this one our drama patreon poll so we'd like to thank our patrons for voting for this to win our drama patreon poll this is about JFK okay that's all I got I don't even know who's in this movie I know this is a very long movie for us I'm not like a conspiracy type person but I know that there's a lot of different conspiracies surrounding JFK's death and I think that was the biggest thing that we found out before watching the movie was that I think we both thought that this movie was like about JFK like it was following JFK but I think it's about yeah while he was alive yeah but it's not that yeah it's about the uh investigation to his assassination so that I think is going to be incredibly interesting yeah like you said this is an extremely long movie we've had a handful of long movies this month with Dune then with patent and then now JFK Long movies I used to love I was like give me the longest movie ever now when you were just watching when I'm just watching yeah sure but now it's like so reversed because obviously the time it takes to edit a long movie is like [ __ ] me and then also we obviously have a little kid now little kid sounds we have a baby yeah I was like she's not quite a kid but everything we do has to revolve around her schedule so long movies are such daunting tasks but I think the excitement that we have for this yeah it's going to outweigh the devastation that this toll takes on us or this movie takes on us if that makes sense yeah and I like I think if you've watched our Channel at all you know that we love like detective type thriller movies yeah and I think that's what this is if it's not honestly we're probably going to be a little bit disappointed right yeah so yeah I'm really excited to see this but I mean the general like history of the assassination I feel like I've seen probably more on the conspiracy theories versus seeing like what is like the well-known like facts if there are facts or um I'm not very knowledgeable of it in general I mean what I know like grassy null and then what's that grassy null now that's not where they thought they took the shot from oh from okay yeah cuz he was in a parade yeah JFK but I think he was in a window but then also I think like the gun that was used it would require multiple shots or I don't know we're obviously about to find out but my knowledge is really low I'm not like I'm blanking on the name who the [ __ ] is name Lee Harvey Oswell Le I was only I was thinking of Tommy Lee Jones was the I knew it was like three I was like I'm pretty sure Tommy Lee Jones hasn't killed JFK anytime oh my God we sound so dumb in this introduction Lee Harvey Oswald yes okay yeah so there's a general very Baseline knowledge and I don't know if this is going to cover the most well-known idea or if this is going to explore like a lot of different things yeah so regardless I'm just super excited to get to understand this part of History a little bit better yeah and um I believe it's Oliver Stone is the director okay so platoon platoon right yeah I believe we've seen Oliver Stone on the channel before at least once yeah I think platoon so yeah I'm really excited though and I hope it's detective hopefully it's detective hopefully it's detective and hopefully we get to the bottom of this yeah I doubt it uh if you would like to see the full length reaction for this as well as everything else that we've reacted to link to our patreon is in the description if You' like to interact with us on our twitch Twitter or Instagram all those links are in the description as well and with that let's get into the movie his beautiful and elegant wife Jacqueline bouier Kennedy is Tommy Lee Jones didn't I just accuse him of murder today the proudest post is is being I'm damn there's a lot of people in this movie Kennedy also finds himself embroiled in Laos and Vietnam damn this is like a information dump right away we all breathe the same air we all cherish our children's Futures this is obviously different you fting [ __ ] come back here damn someone have prior knowledge I I've actually never seen the footage I have you [Music] have are there so many drugged out people hang this buildup I guess they didn't show it no three shots were fired at President Kennedy's motorcade in Downtown Dallas three shots so I knew it was multiple shots which is part of the suspicion boss of pres has been shot in Dallas 5 minutes ago oh no a priest has administered the last rights damn wow I didn't realize that he survived like long enough to go to the hospital President Kennedy died at 100 p.m. Central Standard time we did so much with this country for colored people s bastard damn they're bought him like they knew the man makes me want to puke goddamn peace treaties I heard shots from over there oh shots from everywhere they got together with the Jews and the Catholics and elect an Irish bleeding heart someone seems happy I don't know what I am charged with but I emphatically deny these charges that goofy oswal kids with P St like an assass you're an investigator yeah all these years I thought you were a mighty your little red eyes of years H me wondering about your loyalty red eyes what those like commi eyes you you're starting to get paranoid this is not I feel like this guy's about to die yeah they strange people godamn name is Lee Harvey jeez paranoia sets in quick they have taken me in oh [ __ ] that's Gary Oldman I'm just a py God he sh looks like a creep oh and they're [ __ ] anybody can get a rifle in Texas as far as oswal's Associates David F A source told Coleman he might have been a getaway pilot for Os Oh what kind of source the anonymous kind Chief interesting the thing like a lot of people already know these people yeah is there anything you want to say in your defense OT he shot him on TV you sh I forgot I forgot about that so did I it'ss like somebody just saved a Dallas da apoll away this is crazy jeez yesterday in the midst of Sorrow the business of government went off aiding the new government of Vietnam in its war against the Communist insurgents David [Music] fer Joe pesi I never met anybody named oswal perhaps you knew this man under another name no I never saw him before in my life well that must have been mistaken information we got then I don't know about that we were told that you took a trip to Texas I was so appealing about Houston we decided we wanted to go ice skating ice skating spur a moment thing uh storm wasn't that bad I see Damn Your Story sucks come to think of it there right we got out there where the geese were isn't a bit difficult to hunt for geese without a shotgun chain smoking I remember now I'm sorry Mr Garrison I got confused forgotten our shotguns stupid right Dave I find your story is simply not believable really there's nothing believable about this guy all of it his hair his eyebrows no evidence that Mr fa knew Lee Harvey Oswald or has had any connection with the Assassin okay that was quick by the district attorney of Orleans Parish not by the federal I thought we were on the same side they must know something we don't like they don't want the story to continue the commission will be headed by Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court Earl Warren 3 years average man be lucky to get two shots off and I tell you the point shot would always be the best one pristine bullet that dog don't hunt already holes I'd Round Up 100 the world's best Rifleman find out which ones were in Dallas that day what he say I'm just a py you better believe it dang with no lawyer present and nobody nobody recorded a word of it anything osal says it's going to be inadmissible in court well honey why don't we talk about it at the dinner table what were they saying for those 12 hours not on record honey that was 3 years ago we've all tried so hard to put it out of our minds you just keep digging it up again feing the dog all right good night doodle folks good night one hour you here is 1 hour there were two other men they were on the Eastern end of the parking lot flash of light or smoke or something no damn I liked how that was edited like him being involved in the trial and the questioning HS have got to your mind Mr gar and then this this Colonel he makes it sound like nothing he says she's had enough stay up all night every night for what God damn it I've been sleeping for three years finally awake remember whose office this was in 63 xfi man died a couple years ago oh that's the guy who headed the anti communist League of the Caribbean all out of this office how much of a role does this guy possibly have 544 Camp Street 531 Lafayette Street guess who use this address oh what you lied to me you hypocrite liar you son of a [ __ ] the arresting Lieutenant later said he felt it was a stage incident staged oswal is released and quickly destroys his notes from the interview what a Marxist leninist you are not a communist but you are a Marxist leninist what is the difference upstairs in 1963 that was the Office of Naval intelligence get out of here once o and I always o and I well he likes working near his old Pals that's the FBI there that's a CIA that's the Secret Service that's the O Andi what you driving at boss they're all here we're going to start by tracking down your anonymous source from three years ago hell I can't remember last night let alone three years ago B uhoh I mean I'm so lost but I'm very interested says he pistol whipped you with the 357 Magnum well does a simple argument over a phone bill sound like a believable explanation to you it's not what it was it was over the files they called it operation Mongoose from Dallas through nor to Miami stock piling arms explosives Jesus right here you know was doing a lot of the training he never kiss anybody's ass oh he kissed his who the hell are you clay ber well I don't know I don't know no that's right clay no no that's right said a little too much yeah was was Kennedy ever discussed I don't know problem is I think if he leaves he's never going to get to talk to him again right nobody knows what we're talking about here Jack so naive yeah you've been watched right now PP the Bimbo in red mhm Lo yeah she's cute all right candy if I give you the name of the big enchilada you know then it's bonvoy ardino I mean like a bullet my head you dig real identity of Clare Brin your fat behind is going to The Slammer now you dig dang the government's going to jump all over your head Jimbo and go cocka dooodle do everyone is [ __ ] terrified yeah Kevin [Music] Bacon what kind of prison is this yeah Clay I met him uh sometime in uh June of 62 did he pay you for this $20 each time hell ain't no secret that's what I'm in here for you're in here for prostitution I found myself alone with uh Dave and this Leon Eisenhower was always riding around an open top we need three mechanics in three different locations triangulation of Crossfire that's the key crucial thing is one man has to be sacrificed I think he's thought about this a lot right you can't buy me they can't buy me how don't even need this damn parole see this about the truth coming people got to know why he was killed because he was Communist damn this guy just wants an opportunity to speak that was a lot though but it's like is it accurate yeah I didn't pick you because of your legal skill you know thanks boss elected men they can't have as much fun as they used to it's always nice to see you place you to serve you always I'm waiting for some push back to what he's investigating yeah these two look pretty young not a single Freight collar a cup yeah pretty clean what about that Railroad Man Lee bis saw those men at the picket fence single car accident on empty Road in Midlothian Texas oh [ __ ] kind of stained shock when he died we need to find more witnesses Lou Witnesses are just dying she said that Ruby knew oswal for years and we talk to her come on about 1,200 documents and can't get one of them no way Francis Gary Po's you spylight goes down in Russia that plane was Untouchable oh [ __ ] oswal could have given the Russians enough data to hit it maybe someone in our military didn't want the the peace conference to happen this is like so much bigger this is a too much just so the war could continue the State Department issues him a new passport within 48 hours and Loans him the money to travel no issue whatsoever to get home oswal becomes chummy with the white russian community of Dallas the job at the warehouse right smack on Elm Street at The Book Depository oh she says that Lee is not sexually adequate now at the age of 24 he rents a small room in Dallas he's only 24 Bill Williams has links through his family to the CIA and does classified work for Bell Helicopter why is literally everything classified I'm lost boss same there no chain of evidence y never could figure out why this guy orders a traceable weapon give a phony name and walk out with a rifle which can never be traced that's a good point there's a lot of smoke there but there's some fire yeah talking about a crime Bill pure and simple y'all got to start who's develop looking these photos white is black and black is white just the face face of the murder so I'm going to put it all on this is where I was sitting shots came from near that wooden fence over there but if there's a three-point strangulation I heard the report saw the smoke come out 6 or8 ft above the ground that's so much closer I saw a flash of light in the bushes and that last shot the driver stopped just to get a good shot red butts and someone had stood about here that's the guy in the trailer could see him the the Train the train guy yeah that's the man you mean you identified Jack Ruby on Saturday that's Jack Ruby said one of them might be him look a little bit like him but I'm sure this the man she's pretty positive us I am not I don't know you we got to find this shooter I said you're coming with us how many shots did you say you heard 4 to six 4 to six I saw a man shooting from over there behind that fence you only heard three shots and you're not to talk about this with anybody 20 minutes after the assassination get her out of here that was 20 minutes after I never said any such thing I recognized him and I told him so let's take your time be sure I'm sure yes she's sure about the carousel Club what about Lee come over here damn everyone's in here Lee didn't make much of an impression you know I may not remember her name but I always remember a face I scream my God that's him and so everyone's in this club including police do you think they're going to think twice about a two bit show girl like me so afraid i' would be terrified of saying anything yeah especially the amount of people that already died right Mr Ruby there's a great deal of stake in this matter who are you a whole new form of government is going to take over this country because I want to tell the truth and then I want to leave this world is that his dead body go between six 7 seconds and that's without really aiming the other problem is there was a tree there blocking the first two shots how the hell you get these shots off when you try to hit a moving Target at 88 yards through heavy foliage no way you'd have to be the best shot and even then it seems impossible the guy couldn't do the shooting nobody could why not just shoot Kennedy coming up Houston there's plenty of time no trees no the only reason for waiting to get him on Elm is you got him in a triangulated cross oh patient one there's no way who is it Joe I've been to all the bars nobody wants to talk what's the other name Shaw Clay Shaw Clay Shaw what's the big mystery everybody down here knows the guy how can everyone know him but they can't [ __ ] find him there is a man using the name OS to buy trucks for the friends of democratic Cuba thought I was uh shooting at that son of a [ __ ] Kennedy the two Cubans introduce him as Leon they have Oswald in Mexico trying to get back into Cuba this is Oswald in Mexico how many oswalds are there oh it must be our third oswal the American public once again would have for a Cuban Invasion this pretty much convicted Oswald photo was fake oh we literally saw that being cut out and being made that is my face but my face has been superimposed the rest of the picture is not me at all I have dang old school Photoshop but the shadow down here on the ground reads more like late afternoon or early morning it's not the same time God damn they put oswal together from day one anybody want to quit I do don't question put your hands down Clay bertran is Clay Shaw I'll bring him in on a Sunday where he communicated with him besides I told you I'm talking to Klay Shaw this morning you're missing most of your life and you don't even know it honey you just go ahead without me just consumed with this trial it's not even a trial you just can't give it up yeah are you Queen with a David Logan Perry Russo a Willie o'keef no I don't believe I know anyone by that name of course not I don't know this man oh they know quite a bit here man he particularly remembered that you set at one end and he at the other which he found rather unusual than my turning toward the kitchen hollering Frankie no one's laughing after dinner you paid him to have sex that is absolute nonsense does this photo exist daddy never keeps his P dang that sucks you ever been a contract agent for the Central Intelligence Agency Mr Garrison do you believe I would be here today talking to somebody like you no it's the first time he hasn't explicitly denied something yeah and you're the first person I ever met who consider an act of patriotism to murder his own president you are way out of line they want to come to blows one in a different way it is late hi Honey hi I to apologize there I'm really sorry Sor right but the meeting took much longer than expected what am I supposed to tell your kids I'm doing my job to make sure they grow up in a country where Justice won't be in Arcane not a great conversation and you're still ignoring your kid you know who killed President Kennedy was there a conspiracy here in New Orleans EXC they've been operating like undercover for so long well it's definitely getting worse did your office plant that garbage in a [ __ ] paper somebody tipped off the press I'm one a [ __ ] Garrison suspects I'm here on I am a [ __ ] dead man a dead man I mean people mentioned end up dead I just don't know who to trust anymore you know who you scared of Dave me everybody yeah no photographs compromis and stuff he use them too dang I knew oswal he was my Civil Air Patrol unit I taught him everything story is changing quite a bit yeah what's this what's going on here and nobody coming in just man the sound like there's crowds outside SE iall the Cubans all agency it's funny games man funny games what about the mob Dave how they picking this please don't bring any more people into this I'm so [ __ ] lost we check out something called uh Mongoose operation Mongoose where have we heard Mongoose before I don't know what happened it's going to be okay Dave you just talk to us on the record we'll protect you I guarantee it they get to you too they'll destroy you yeah at this point I'm also concerned about his family yeah it's all out there now Kennedy is alive great my instinct is that Fair's going to keep on deteriorating will end up getting more out of him when he finally cracks oh [ __ ] he cracked a long time ago I got something to show you I think you'll find it very interesting what is that thing oh he got the tape found this in your office we think the conference room is also bugged maybe oh debug the whole place office this is outrage who the [ __ ] we're going to have to be more careful all these new volunteers I mean any one of them okay no volunteers we obviously got the bastards wored now I'm coming to Washington uhoh dude fa is dead oh oh I was worried how'd he die what's it look like Nick I don't see any violence Jim hard attack it's like natural causes there's no way to death with a machete in his C jeez shot in the heart at Point Blank Range and his skull split open with an a they did everything to that guy I offered you love must been harded to come up with that one clay just royally screwed up their investigation how many Corps is it going to take before you lawyers figure out what's going on damn they were like so on to something when they didn't have all of this pressure and like outside looking I could give you a false name but I won't let call me X heex World War II I was in Romania Greece Yugoslavia over through Corino and the Philippines arbin and Guatemala MOS and Iran jeez Louise how much did you do two weeks before the assassination of our president a strange thing happened to me you are going to South Pole I am South Pole their papers had the entire history of this unknown 24y old man oswal wait what well that cover story was being put out like we would in a Black Op but too early I mean even if we had not allowed the bubble top to be removed from the limousine we would have placed at least 100 to 200 agents on the sidewalk no way we would have arrived days ahead of time studied the route checked all the buildings never would have allowed all those wide open so they were severely undermanned people like my Superior officer could have called Colonel Reich and said look we have another unit people in Dallas I'm still trying to figure out who and why but they weren't protecting clients no they were taking civilians why the how and the who is just scenery for the public why was Kennedy killed tell me this basically ended the reign of the CIA splintered it as JFK promised he would into a thousand pieces damn Miami's University which was the largest domestic CIA station what you're talking big money you know how many helicopters have been lost in Vietnam who makes that Bell Helicopter who owns Bell how about the f111 fighter General Dynamics oh my God he signed a treaty with the Soviets to ban nuclear testing just too much peace as early as 1961 they knew Kennedy was not going to go to war in Southeast Asia damn some [ __ ] fact finding Mission he comes back and just scares the [ __ ] out of the president what like a scary meeting of people yeah General y flies in the Assassins maybe from the special camp we keep outside Athens Greece does it really matter who shot from what rooftop oh gentlemen I want you to know I'm not going to let Vietnam go like China did exactly what they want I'll give you your damn war in that document this is so much oh don't take my word for it don't believe me do your own work your own thinking he has been testify me testify doesn't even know his name I can give you the background you have to find the foreground the little things I don't have much of a case yeah we really have almost nothing remember fundamentally people are suckers for the truth and the truth is on your side bubba this is such an insane conversation I just hope you get a break this movie also has turned me into a massive conspiracy theorist I feel the same I will trust almost nothing moving forward Mr Shaw sir you are under arrest oh for the specific purpose of committing the crime of murder of President John F Kennedy is this going to stir some [ __ ] is his name not mentioned once in the entire 26 volumes of the warrning I know of no fact which would refute the commission's conclusion dude's an alien conspiracy the case of Jim Garrison honey this is after several weeks of investig have intimidated bribed and even drugged Witnesses in the their attempt what there they go trying to destroy his credibility I didn't talk to nobody after the assassination I was on drugs at the hospital oh really Mr Garrison is indebted and tied to the Mob oh my God mob connection now and worst of all exploited this nation's sorrow and doubt he seeks the truth so do we wow I don't know what you're going to say but I feel like shouldn't say it was shattered tonight in Memphis Tennessee by an Assassin's bullet God damn would you like to be in a beauty contest I don't know God someone pay attention to the kid who is this who is this hello Martin Luther King was killed in meone your daughter's life's just been threatened just what your own daughter what kind of man are you I'm a [ __ ] on this one yeah can't you see I don't want to see God damn it I'm tired attacking him because he's a homosexual that's not why I'm attacking oh did you ever for once stop to consider what he was feeling sh uhoh and take back what I said threats about taking the I'm not making any threats I'm leaving youat damn just destroyed his family I don't like it when you and Mommy fight it sucks I mean he's on like this quest for truth but it's completely consumed him and now the effort to make him look crazy has literally gone all the way to reaching his own wife Oswald went to see the FBI 2 weeks before the assassination what said it went all over the country nothing was done the motorade went ahead on schedule this wasn't even mentioned in the war report they got this beforehand how the hell you going to keep a conspiracy going on between the mob the CIA we are going to trial here y'all I mean what the hell do we really got I feel like nothing this was a military style ambush from start to finish this was a Cuda with Lyndon Johnson waiting in the wing while our federal agencies blocking our extraditions of penis when we were never I don't he just doesn't want to think he could be that big I mean it's like it's not believable yeah you are way out there taking a crap as a win boss and I have for one am not going along on this one but it is crazy he said something about like 12 people can't keep a secret like with something so big in so many different agencies involved how the [ __ ] was there not more leaks or more information cuz it really feels like they have almost nothing I cannot work with Bill brousard anymore I mean wasn't he talking to someone from the FBI someone pulled him aside me an ultimate well if that's what you want to call it I guess I am falling apart I'll accept your resignation you a one stubborn son of a [ __ ] losing his home losing his office in a selfish country and a compassionate country and I intend to make that my basis for is this when he gets it oh man I would just feel so like hopeless like anytime you think you're getting close someone just dies honorable Judge Edward a hagy Jr presiding but if you're like uncovering all this stuff and you really think everyone's involved how would you even trust the legal system you got the right tat but the wrong ho ho Beren is not Sha but he even said that he his Alias was bertran yeah use any aliases CL ber there's no constitutional requirement this there a lawyer has to be admissible what I wouldn't believe anything habos at anyway I can't believe you're saying this in the courtroom see how can you [ __ ] trust anyone they just throw away any evidence you do come up with did you ever use the Alias clay bertran no the American public has not seen that film because it has been kept locked away in a vault for The Last 5 Years o f it's the first time I've ever seen that then exits Conley's wrist wound number six makes a dramatic uturn and buries itself into Conley's left thigh that's one Magic Bullet and it's found in almost pristine condition on a stretcher in a COR of Parkland Hospital what it's just on the stretcher an identical bullet fired through the wrist of a human cab seven wounds gentlemen this single bullet explanation foundation of the war commission's claim of a lone assassin yeah it's the worst the back of the president's head blasted out there was a large 7 cm opening in the right occipital oh my God almost A fifth or possibly a quarter of the back of the head blasted out jeez but then the body was illegally moved to Washington for the autopsy damn they just stole his body so much as none of them had any experience with combat gunfire W what I can feel at the end of the wound with my finger that won't be necessary Commander I guess nothing's necessary it's not our business to discuss this with anyone outside this room as I recall it was Admiral Kenny are these real photos or not I don't know I hope not president Johnson orders the blood soaked limousine filled with bullet holes and clues to be immediately washed and rebuilt what we're told by the government your government that the president's brain has disappeared wow slowing down to some 11 miles hour yeah slowing down part is crazy the third shot frame 232 HS Kennedy in the back pulling him downward he is visibly holding his ston which is impossible if his wrist has been shattered dang and takes Conley in the back this is the shot that proves there were two rifles frame 313 takes Kennedy in the head from the front jeez back and to his left shot from the oh my God back and to the left just popping his head the shooters quickly disassemble their various weapons all except the oswal rifle the character produced credentials from his pocket that showed him to be Secret Service Secret Service in the parking lot men acting like hobos were being pulled off trains and yet there's no records of their arrest but who was impersonating them everyone on foot Carolyn Arnold sees oswal in the second floor snack room where he said he went for a coat he wasn't even outside wipes the rifle clear fingerprints stashes the rifle on the other side of the lack oh yeah five flights of stairs past Witnesses Victoria Adams and Sandra St who never see him oh the longer he delays the more chance the building will be sealed by police yeah sits down and have lunch refused to identify while that's a killer was never taken to a lineup no way and says they went off in separate directions Mrs Clemens was never taken to a lineup or to the warn commission two witnesses now this has to be the most remarkable example a police intuition since the RAR fire yeah Jack Ruby is shown into underground garage by one of his inside men on the Dallas police force as jeez the official Legend is created and the media takes it from there Hitler always said the bigger the line the more people will believe it oh my God President Kennedy was murdered by a conspiracy that was planned in advance at the highest levels of our government among them Clay Shaw here before you finally back to Shaw in the Dallas Police Department the Secret Service the FBI and some people say I'm crazy such a bleak Outlook all these documents are yours you cannot see these documents for another 75 years I'm already telling my 8-year-old son to keep himself physically fit that one glorious September morning in the year 2038 2038 represent the hope of humanity against government power ask not what your country can do for you you but what you can do for your country been such an amazing speech but it's like I don't think there's enough against Shaw no but this is still a government of the people for the people and by the people it's up to you I mean I would vote guilty but it would be purely On Emotion from his speech not from any sort of facts that they were able to present no please hand the verdict to the clerk I would assume not guilty we the jury find the defendant Clay Shaw not guilty yeah I mean that was expected but what a speech if it takes me 30 years to nail every one of the Assassins then I will continue this investigation for 30 [Music] years had work with the CIA of course oh they've done nothing year till 2029 we're getting close but I feel like they could just keep bearing it and keep pushing it yeah all right that was JFK what' you think whoa yeah first of all that was an extremely difficult movie to react to I feel like if I wanted to say anything I was going to interrupt like a very important piece of dialogue that movie has to have some of like the highest amount of like dialogue per length of movie whatever that ratio is I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to say like there was almost no time to interject our own commentary because it was so insanely fast-paced with what was going on with the editing with the dialogue that there was just like no time to breathe it's like a it's like a over three-hour movie and I don't think it ever slowed down no I there was there was like no time to even process what was happening let alone say something out loud so the reaction is definitely a lot of I'm sure I mean once it's edited I'm sure it's going to be mostly just like shocked with very small comments so not totally how we would love to do a reaction but you can't take it all in and it's difficult to with reactions just like to for copyright uh we have to include our commentary plus we also have to chop the [ __ ] out of anything we watch just for copyright reasons and the issue is that like there was conversations that would stretch for 10 minutes or something that speech at the end that speech at the end was like 20 minutes I'm only going to be able to show like little fragments of five or sixc parts so I can already Envision this this reaction is going to be chopped to hell and I don't think it's going to really reflect how our experience was because this was truly an amazing movie I feel like yeah no this was incredible and honestly like this only just inspired me to want to look up so much of all of the conspiracy theories regarding JFK's death there's a little bit of comfort in ignorance and just like not really caring you know like just live your life being totally blind to the amount of [ __ ] around us yeah and I feel like this movie is going to turn me into the worst type of person and I'm only going to be skeptical of everything and I'm going to be a massive conspiracy theorist moving forward and I'm going to question everything to an aggressively uh terrible degree so this movie it was a little too much no there's so much going on that I mean this movie is filled with massive names of actors yeah the cast was huge to begin with but with this huge cast I mean I'm honestly thankful that there was such a big cast cuz honestly if some of these actors hadn't been like recog iable to me I might have started messing up people's uh the characters names right like you're so familiar with Joe pesi and like Kevin Bacon like you're locked in on who this person is in terms of their role in this overarching story even though the overarching story is so [ __ ] confusing yeah it's just there's so much there's just so much information yet somehow no information it like you get both ends of the spectrum like this is so Mass massive so many like angles and conspiracies and whatever and so many plot holes not necessarily plot holes but like there's just so much to look at yet you get nowhere when you actually look at it I can see with the amount of information that they had how it was so easy to make like a three plus hour movie because this is wild and I feel like like you said like there was no part of this film that stopped so for them to try to squeeze all of this information into this just over 3-hour movie is crazy like I'm wondering that you got to tell me there's got to be like a series or something like a limited series this could be go through this 10 hours and I would still be like not enough yeah so this entire case is wild to me I we touched on in the beginning what kind of like little knowledge we have I even like I had forgotten that Lee Harvey oswal was killed almost immediately after being arrested I was shocked I was like oh yeah that's right he died yeah and then uh same with Robert Kennedy I knew that Robert Kennedy died I didn't know and I knew that he was killed like while giving a speech but I didn't know when that was and for it to happen so quickly um it felt quick obviously to us watching this I don't know in relation to like the actual timeline at least a few years because we had a three-year jump and then there was probably years worth of Investigation or whatever but yeah for us it's just like it's just shocking I mean I'm sure for a bunch of people who went through this and lived through this that it was just uh something that you couldn't like take your eyes away from and couldn't stop consuming this type of information yeah at least for us you know it's you get the Baseline of like oh here's what we're kind of told has happened and you know enough that you're like that does not seem totally possible but you don't really dive that much deeper into it but this movie Just unlocks so much that you're just like that has to be [ __ ] that has to be [ __ ] and then you move on to the next person the next thing you're like that has to be [ __ ] and then you add everything up and you're like I don't know what to do well and like the amount of fear that we saw from so many of the people so we're not even getting like the full stories on things um and then the people that are giving fullish stories a lot of it is probably lies as well there's so much cover up happening and there's way too many people involved whether they're actually involved or they're just like a little bit involved like is Lee Harvey Oswald the um like scapegoat in all of this obviously he was part of the plan but then they kind of you know shaped it for him to just be okay let's just move on to the next step because what was supposed to happen didn't happen so I'm just still going to go meet at this theater and yeah so like there's just so much involved and we took like a you know two-minute break here after we watched the movie just to go check on the baby and I you know my mom was like what did you think and I'm like there's he didn't do it he didn't do it and my mom's like Oh well I think he did it so I don't know I mean she you know she was a child essentially when this actually happened but she said that she remembers like all this coverage of it and whatever but then it goes into the whole like media play of it which we also just watch Patton um so I feel like we talk about like what kind of the media portrays and like how that kind of shapes like the public opinion I guess of things which I feel like is very relevant to current times but watching something like this and you know I know that there's a million conspiracy theories out there for so many massive things that have happened um even while you know we've been alive as well right and a lot of the time you're like a gay like here's your like tin foil hat type of thing yeah oh you [ __ ] crazy son of a [ __ ] but this was like very convincing obviously for what we're seeing so this in itself too also I feel like is easy to sway people right yeah cuz you could watch this movie and be like oh I [ __ ] agree with all of this but I'm sure there's probably another movie out there that's like oh what the heck it was Lee Harvey o well the whole time exactly so I it's it's wild I feel like the Magic Bullet is the thing that really did it for me um and the the murder weapon that they set as the murder weapon the fact that like nobody could replicate that even like the best of the best yeah uh there's a couple of things that also hit a little bit personally like I have never seen that footage to see that footage and I thought in the beginning of the movie they cut away from it once you hear The Gunshot uh I was like okay they're probably out of respect or something not going to show that yeah then you get to the end of the movie and they aggressively show it they show it over and over they show it in slow motion and it's just just a weird feeling because this movie would be amazing and captivating if it was a fictional story about some madeup president this is real American history that's real footage of one of our greatest presidents to most people getting his head blown up yeah it is so graphic and for me like to see that footage also just to see his head getting blown backwards from a shot that looks like it's coming from the front or at least from the side then you put in the difficulty of the shot I mean there's a lot of holes in what we are told um so I think it has to be one of the most uh common conspiracy theories if you even want to call that or it's more of just like an unsolved case yeah so it was just so impactful and devastating to see that actual footage tied in with the three plus hours we got before that leading up to it another thing is when you start going through the reasoning of why you would get rid of some of these figures like John F Kennedy and Martin Luther King and uh Robert Kennedy the idea of change and specifically peace and that's why you're taking out it's also just a depressing world to think that we live in and it most likely is just our reality that it's like the people who are put here to try to make peace or to better the world are just taken out for the status quo and I've said it before I graduated with mechanical engineering if you know anyone in engineering there is a 99% chance that that person who's studying engineering is going to end up working in some capacity for the military if you go to any recruitment while you're in school for engineering it is all of the top military companies they give nice lucrative offers you're going to end up working for the military complex industrial complex whatever you want to call it that's just the reality of it and I went through that reality well just cuz it's the the money in everything and that's the thing it's like it's not even necessarily about the peace and people not wanting peace it's that the peace affects the wallets and to hear about the money that we spend on War I mean I know that for a fact when there is war profit goes up for some of our biggest companies that you don't want to think control everything thing but they have a hell of a lot of pool and a lot of influence when it's kind of uh War's business yeah and it's it's difficult when you watch this type of movie because we unfortunately just like living in America we see that there can just be like a lone killer yeah like somebody that's lost the plot and they just go and shoot up whatever it may be um far too often yeah so it's not like it's not not believable yeah it's not not plausible that this would have been done by a single angry person but obviously this movie goes to show you that it doesn't seem like it actually is plausible in in the general sense of things like yeah like there was a bunch of stuff that obviously went wrong we heard from Mr X that you know um he was taken away that they changed the route that they didn't have their usual number of people um that people wouldn't be able to get that close even to the vehicle there would the vehicle slowing down like the fact that there was no top on the vehicle like all of the different things that added up to what happened that day um but it it's really not unbelievable that it would just be a single crazy person that would do that so it's that's where the whole conspiracy theory aspect comes into play is could you just have a series of unfortunate events I mean think about just the Kennedy in general right yeah so it's just it's it's tough um and this movie goes into some of your the wildest like fears essentially the the amount of fear that we see of people afraid of telling the truth or the repercussions of telling the truth even like Kevin Cosner's own family or I should say Jim Garrison's family like the destructive pattern that came from his obsession with finding like because it's not necessarily this shining achievement of like yes truth wins and it was all worth it yeah was it he got [ __ ] nowhere and not like we as American citizens still don't know anything yeah like yeah the end credits they are kind of explaining where we're at as of you know 1991 the time of this movie nothing has really changed since the time of this movie no when we saw something like 20129 maybe someone also said something like 20 38 yeah there's no [ __ ] way we're ever going to know and the longer we get away from it the more it's just going to get buried the more people die and pass away who might have some hint or clue that unlocks everything uh overall it's just very depressing and no matter which way you look at it we still live in a world where a crazy person can just take out someone so influential all by themselves or on the flip side that our own government that we should trust just [ __ ] takes out someone like no matter what you look it's all terrible yeah uh there was no winners we're all losers that was a great movie damn no that was an incredible film though so one of my favorite parts of the film was I guess there's like two favorite parts that I have first is John Williams the music yes phenomenal um I feel like it there was so much tension or mostly tension and the fear of people being scared to talk about anything um the I think in particular there was that one scene that led up to the actual footage right um and the music there because I I did not think that they were going to show it and they did so kind of that lead up to it for me like I was like oh like I it wasn't doing exactly what it was supposed to be doing because I didn't think that they were going to show it and then I guess my second favorite or top other top favorite part um was just the Kevin Conner's performance at the very end there just breaking down everything I'm so glad we got that it kind of summarized everything we had been going through really kind of put everything together in a way that you can kind of understand it a little bit better um but I mean the performances across the board were outstanding Joe peshy was fantastic I can't with the wig the wig was driving me nuts though I know but it was because of the cancer and stuff no just that it kept like moving like I understand that it was important right but it was so blaring yeah Mr X kind of information dub was brilliant Gary Oldman as uh Lee Harvey Oswald like we only kind of got brief little snapshots but I'm like this could have all been real footage and I would have totally believed it 100% um the the performances across the board were fantastic and for such a long movie that is heavy on the dialogue like there's not necessarily action or explosions or something like it is mostly just unwrapping this mystery it kept my attention every second for over three hours yeah no I was never like okay like yeah move it on yeah no I was captivated the entire film incredible this is like there's a lot of movies that I think are like required viewing I would slot this in as something that everyone should see yeah I agree with that regardless if you care about American history or conspiracy theories or whatever it's just such a quality movie uh and I feel like it changes how you think after which I feel like movies have that power to affect who you are as a person and this changed me again not not for the better I know let me be very clear I am now worse our dinner conversations for the next at least until maybe you forget about this film until I watch like Lord of the Rings again or something and then I'll forget about them but um yeah for the time being I'm going to be looking up some of the coolest most unanswered conspiracy theories yeah but this was great so thank you for everyone who voted for this to win and it always seems like I'm so afraid to watch long movies but we've watched a handful of very long movies on this channel and I'm always Blown Away by them always always they're always fantastic and they're always worth the length of time um even though it's not the time of watching that you're not looking forward to it's the editing right it's the editing and yeah just the difficulty of jamming it into our already difficult schedule yeah but this was worth it yeah um bum this is probably not going to be the greatest movie for reaction content but I'm so glad that we watched this yeah um and got to discuss it so I'm excited to read the comments on this one um oh I the comments are going to be wild I think I know and I feel like it's going to be crazy it's going to be juicy as hell so I'm excited yeah so thanks to the patrons for for this and um thanks to everyone that recommended it as well so if you'd like to see the full length reaction for this as well as everything else we've reacted to the link to our patreon is in the description if you would like to interact with us on our twitch Twitter and Instagram all those links are in the description as well and with that peace everyone bye bye

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Length: 57min 7sec (3427 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 03 2024