>> Greg: VIOLENCE URGING IN CITIES, AND CRIMINALS ACTING MORE BRAZEN THAN EVER, NEW YORK CITY, BRUTALLY SUCKER PUNCHED A 55-YEAR-OLD ASIAN WOMAN THAT IS SICKENING. NOW REPORTEDLY IN STABLE CONDITIONS, THE SUSPECT CHARGED WAS APPARENTLY ARRESTED EIGHT TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR. EIGHT TIMES. SAN FRANCISCO POLICE OFFICER WAS PUMMELED BY A HOMELESS MAN AND TOLD BIND STANDERS STEPPED IN TO HELP HER. SO HAROLD, YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK, I SEE YOU ALL THE TIME. YOU SHOULD WEAR MORE CLOTHES WHEN YOU TALK. BUT THIS GUY WAS ARRESTED 17 TIMES, HE IS HOMELESS, EIGHT TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR, YOU LIVE HERE, WHAT DO YOU THINK, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A SPIKE IN CRIME, BUT THESE CRIMES ARE VERY SIMILAR, NOT EVEN LINKED TO THEFT, JUST WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE REAL PROBLEM HERE? >> Harlod: WE NEED TO STOP IT, NOT TO DEFUND THE POLICE, PUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND POLICE DEPARTMENT, I THINK IT'S NAIVE THAT YOU CAN'T HOLD A POLICE ACCOUNTABLE AND NO FUND -- NOT TO FUND THE POLICE. ONE ASPECT OF THE DEFUND THE POLICE CAN CONVERSATION THAT GETS CAUGHT UP WHEN YOU THINK BADLY ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT DEFUNDING THE POLICE, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND WHAT POLICE DO WHETHER WE ARE THE FORCE WITHIN THE FORCE TO DEAL WITH THAT. ALSO CONCERNS AROUND BELL REFORM, I THINK IT WAS WELL-INTENTIONED, BUT I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT WE ARE GETTING AFTER WERE SOLVING THE PROBLEM THAT WE WANT TO SOLVE, WE MAY BE HAVE OVERREACHED HERE, MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY TO GET IT RIGHT, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS NOT WORKING. KIDS, MOMS AND DADS, EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL SAFE WALKING OUTSIDE THE DOOR. >> Greg: DAGEN, IT IS A CREEPY ATMOSPHERE. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT SEEK ARE NOT WELL. AND MY THEORY IS THAT TODAY ARE, WHEN THEY LOOK AT SHELTERS THERE IS NOT A PLACE FOR THEM. THEY ARE BEING SPUN OUT OF PRISON. THEY DON'T CARE BECAUSE THEY GO BACK TO JAIL AND MAYBE JAIL IS PREFERABLE TO THE SHELTERS. WE GIVE $800 MILLION TO BILL de BLASIO'S WIFE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THAT SHOULD HAVE SOLVED MORE THAN THIS, AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. >> Dagen: NO, THAT WAS A BOONDOGGLE, YOU COULD'VE THROWN THAT MONEY DOWN AN OPEN MANHOLE IN NEW YORK CITY. THE PROBLEM IS, AND I DON'T MEAN TO DISPARAGE POLICE, BUT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL, I SEE PEOPLE, I'M NOT GOING TO BE SOMEONE RUBBING HUMAN ON THE OUTSIDE OF CVS IS NOT GOING TO ARREST THAT INDIVIDUAL. WITH THIS MAN WHO ASSAULTED THIS ASIAN WOMAN, HE HAS BEEN ARRESTED 40 TIMES. SO ON BAIL REFORM EVERY TIME YOU GET PICKED UP, YOU ARE RIGHT BACK OUT ON THE STREET AND THEN THE CRIME IS NOT PROSECUTED. IF THEY PICK UP SOMEONE MENTALLY ILL, THAT INDIVIDUAL MIGHT GO TO BELLEVUE HOSPITAL FOR 72 HOURS. THERE IS A VAST DANCE DELAYED -- DANCE TOULOUSE STATION OF THE MENTALLY ILL SINCE JFK AND IT HAS ONLY GOTTEN WORSE, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF HELP FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. BUT PEOPLE WHO WATCH THE MAYORAL PRIMARY, ERIC ADAMS, FORMER POLICE CAPTAIN STRONG ON POLICE. BUT KAREN GARCIA WHO HAS BEEN BACKED BY "THE NEW YORK TIMES" SAID OFFICERS WHO DID NOT WEAR MASKS DURING LAST YEAR'S PROTEST HAVE TO BE DOCKED TO THEIR PAY. THAT IS HER STANCE. >> Greg: THIS IS NEW YORK, BUT WE ARE SEEING THINGS AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT NOT IN THE SUBURBS, IS THIS SOMETHING ONLY THE CITY PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH IS IT COVID RELATED? >> Jesse: IT IS, SO THANKS FOR BRINGING US BACK TO THE CITY, GREG. THERE IS A JUDGE OUT THERE WHO IS STARING IN THE EYEBALLS OF THIS DERANGED LUNATIC, LOOKED AT THE RAP SHEET AND SLAMMED THE GAVEL DOWN AND SAID PROBATION AND DID NOT SENTENCE THE GUY, THERE IS A BAD JUDGE THAT COULD'VE THROWN THE BOOK AT THIS GUY AND DID IT, AND BACK IN THE DAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE JUDGE'S DOORSTEP AT 6:00 A.M. AND STUCK THE MIC IN HIS FACE BECAUSE HE IS A BILLION -- VILLAIN AND HAVE TO HUMILIATE IN ORDER TO GET TOUGHER, BECAUSE WITHOUT A JUDGE THAT GETS TOUGH, YOU WILL KEEP ROLLING OUT THE PURPOSE AND THEY WILL KEEP PERMITTING -- COMMITTING CRIMES. THE INSTANT ZEUS -- INSTANT TO THEY ARE READY TO HAVE ALL OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM, BUT YOU CAN HAVE SOME LUNATIC OUT THERE AND STALK SOMEONE PUSH THEM IN FRONT OF THE TRAIN AND THEN THE NEXT DAY THEY ARE OUT ON THE STREETS AGAIN, WE NEED TO DEINSTITUTIONALIZATE THESE PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY ARE SICK. >> Sandra: YOU LOOK AT THE DEFUNDING THE POLICE MOVEMENT AND A LOOK AT THE SPIKE IN RISE IN CRIME AND YOU SEE VIDEO LIKE THIS THAT MAKES YOUR HEART HURT, THANK GOD WE ARE SEEING THAT SHE IS IN STABLE CONDITION, BUT HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO RETURN FULL WORKFORCE TO A CITY IN NEW YORK WHEN YOU SEE THESE RANDOM AWFUL ATTACKS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON CITIES -- FOR ANYBODY WALKING DOWN A BLOCK IN NEW YORK RIGHT NOW, I DON'T FEEL SAFE. THIS COULD HAPPEN ANYONE ANYWHERE AT ANY MOMENT. >> Greg: THE THING THAT IS SO SHOCKING ABOUT THIS MODERN TYPE OF VIOLENCE IS THAT IT IS THE VICTIMS. WHO HITS AN OLD LADY? IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD THAT IS -- >> Jesse: PREDATORS GO FOR THE WEAKEST. THAT IS WHO THEY ARE TARGETING. >> Greg: THEY ARE NOT EVEN TAKING THINGS, THEY ARE JUST POUNDING THEM, SO OBVIOUSLY PSYCHOTIC AND A SPECIAL K. >> Jesse: THAT'S