Jamie Hayes - 'Your Six Pack is NOT Built in the Gym!'

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so next up we have this the other convener dr. rod Taylor was one of the conveners of the low-carb down under tour this man right here Jamie Hays is also a convener we've been staying with him here in Brisbane and really incredible man what a thinker I mean you talk about somebody who has ideas he needs to be blogging if he has time all of you do but he is such a thinker you're gonna really enjoy this presentation he gave it to us the other night that that alone tells you what he's going to do give a warm welcome Jamie Hays thanks Jimmy and it was really a pleasure meeting Jimmy and Christine at the low carb Cruz well and I met Rod Taylor and I bought this t-shirt there and if anybody knows what that stands for lchf is low carb high fat and on the back it's low carb high fat rocks which is all the way from Sweden yeah where it's hard to get butter because it's just running off the shelves and it was amazing meeting Andre has an felt it's not about going there meeting the rock stars of weight loss and health and nutrition so that was remarkable now I'm an exercise guy and in exercise we often talk about the 6-pack witches yeah they're having the little what it call of ripples of muscles and here's an example this there's not anybody know who that is and that is he's got your bodybuilder type but this is Chloe that you sort of body look at and I absolutely wish that you know I had a body like that but let me tell you bit about my story just so you know that's me as a young asthmatic as a young boy and I was a we've all got added you know stories our health stories I was a chronic asthmatic with a collapsed lung and hospitalized on many occasions that's where I learnt the trick the pen trick I was teaching Christine's daughter as a 6 year old my father doctor taught me a little pen trick to take my mind off because it was drugs available then you know went to school played footy and things like that and broke my leg at 17 and started you know wasn't very physically active and starting eating junk and and really started losing muscle tone and putting on a bit of a gut around the middle now you might say look you were never fat Jamie you never obese as a matter of fact right now I stand to you in front of you as an overweight person because my BMI is twenty five point one now I'm lean I'm strong and muscular but on a BMI I'm twenty five point one which means technically I'm overweight so you can judge as to whether that's a good judgment or not and and I've got a saying and ladies tell me if you agree with this it's amazing what a dress can hide that a swimsuit can't you know and and that was taken in like in the I think in mid 70 but 75 at Tamra hammer beach so how many years ago is that that's a long many years ago then I got into the fitness business in the 70s and met my wife Ellen at the back became the first the second registered Fitness leader in New South Wales everyone was a first and I went on to become Australia's national fitness leader of the year in 87 I don't think there were many people out there then so I wasn't competing as many people and then Ellen I opened nine fitness clubs and as we got older I'm about to turn 60 we became more interested in health and more interested in weight control and open healthy inspirations a franchise of women's weight loss and exercise centers around the stratum in New Zealand and I'm proud to say we've helped over 8,000 women lose over a hundred and thirty thousand kilos so far that's great and and then we took the intellectual property all the lessons and you know my father was a doctor like rod and he said most doctors learn not through education but observation and so we learned a lot from our ladies and we applied that knowledge and and developed a weight loss coaching program called diet clicks and with a great help of Robin Jordan our National Training Manager you can wave Robin if you like you know is put a heck of a lot of work and we'll see some of her work in a minute to help people become weight loss coaches and develop a new career if they're passionate about that and we've got three paleo sons and you know we just stopped buying wheat Beck's it's just off buying bread we didn't tell them they just started cooking their own breakfast out on the barbecue eggs and bacon and things like that and if I clear skin and they're lean and healthy and they don't know the name of a doctor you know that this has haven't had cause to go to a doctor and then you know through local low carb industry we met some great friends and there's a picture of us on the low-carb cruise and then 35 years later on the very same Beach I had to Ellen took the very same photo so as you get older you don't have to lose muscle tone you don't have to put on weight as a matter of fact I think you can even get better my joke is I'm well seated don't oh I'll tell you I go so now got it - I'm I'm I'm on a special exercise program and special diet program because I'm training for a specific objective because I'm better than 60 my objective is to get the body my wife all desire but I put it to you if not about aesthetics it's about health and whether you get involved because you want to be slimmer and look better or whether you want to get involved because you want to be healthy it doesn't matter you know if one sees the other fine whatever you know it floats your boat so I wish I had a dollar every time in all our gyms and fitness centers somebody said what's the best exercise - give me a six-pack or another like like David Beckham or what's the best exercise to give me a flat tummy come on surely Jamie you're in exercise X but there's some way some special exercises to give me a flat tummy you know like this lady or what's the best exercise to get rid of this muffin top and boy we see a few of those around that way so would you like to know what is the best exercise to work gimme six-pack well I answer I answer a question with a question and my question I come back to is are you mainly interested in the muscles underneath the fat on your tummy or which is these muscles here or are you mainly interested in the the fat that's covering the muscles now what do you think most people say are they mainly interested in the muscles underneath the fat or getting rid of the fact that's covering the muscles they've already got absolutely that that's what they say they're mainly interested in getting rid of the fat that's covering their muscles now let's move away for the tummy area and the tummy area is very important because I think as rod said and Eric said and Jimmy said yeah it's a viscera and Christine said the tummy area is called the visceral fat you know and definitely it's associated with a higher rates of disease but let's say if we focus for a second on the fat on your arms you know you wave it somebody it waves back at you you know this this stuff now experts have done some really interesting research where they've used what's called skin fold caliper to measure the fat underneath the skin on the front of the arm and the back of the arm on the left side and the right side and they've got a whole group of participants only to exercise the right arm but this is either four or six weeks only the right arm doing bicep curls tricep extensions bicep curls tricep extensions you know everyday working that right on working that right arm and then at the end of the study period went back and measured the fat on the right arm and the fat on the left arm there was no difference none whatsoever none whatsoever no difference whatsoever did the right aren't get a little bit stronger sure but because that's the muscle underneath the fat isn't it but the fact over the muscle no difference whatsoever so if you're going to the gym and you're saying because I want to get rid of this I'm doing little tricep extensions or because I want to get rid us I'm doing my little hip extensions or things like that you are wasting your time why because body fat is not burped locally it doesn't go from the fat to the muscle if I do sit-ups it doesn't go from the fat here to the muscle so we can't locally burn up fat you know it can only be metabolized systemically so you know through the system you have to set up your body to be able to metabolize fat and as Kristen you know so eloquently said you know you either set up your body as a fat burner or a sugar burning fat storing body at most of us because you know writers in ketogenic state as a matter of fact the other day I said having breakfast with Jenny we went to a love little cafe in Paddington and Jimmy didn't order I said what are you having Jimmy for breakfast he said Ketones no he was eating his own ketones which was fabulous and so because he's interested in setting up his body to burn body fat and at 400 plus pounds Jimmy had a lot of body fat to to burn and and we all do as well so and it's important because even slim people with excess belly fat or a higher risk of heart attack than obese people so getting getting this down is important and we we can't predict where one person is going to store fat we all store fat slightly differently some people more here some people more here some people more upper-body and also we can't predict how somebody's going to lose that fat in the rate they're going to lose that fat we say actually you know versus being an apple shape to a pear shape if you're moving from an apple shape and you become a pear shape if you appear you're halfway there alright so you're on the way you're on the G now let's look at what the Australian government says and I'm going to do a bit more about throwing government later and my views on them but but the if you're a female and your waist measurement is over 80 centimeters so you don't need any high technology to measure that do you but if it's over 80 centimeters you are at increased risk and if it's over 88 you're a significant increased risk and there's matter of fact my friend rod I asked him right what do you think is the best cholesterol test of all these cholesterol numbers you know what do you think is the best thing to measure and he came back with a simple answer probably your waist probably your waist and you know if you do nothing else just monitor your waist measurement you know that one number goes down because remember I'm overweight I've got to be in live 25.1 which tells me nothing does it just in the scale tell me what weight is which is a mixture of my bones my muscles that fluid I'm carrying you know and organs and fat and things like that but my weight line actually gives me very useful information so I would encourages it start measuring that and males of course let's see I think then we've got males but males you don't want to be over a hundred so excess fat around the waist and I think Christine also said this potential for insulin resistant when people come to our health inspirations or go see our diet flex weight-loss coaches if they come in we don't have to do any tests if they've got you know sort of carrying a lot of weight around their waist we can almost predict them you can get rods a confirm or or not that it's likely that you know that they've got increased insulin resistance its associated alright extra waistline extra insulin resistance and because I'm in the weight loss business we find that these people tend to be more weight loss resistance you know have more difficulty losing weight but there's not impossible that's the good news so the question is how do we set up our body to be able to metabolizing body fat now I like drugs all right so I'd encourage you to use a drug but a drug called food and and there's no doubt that food has drug-like effects we've all got our health stories Ellen I we went to Tony Robbins we became vegan for two years and I started feeling dreadful and I'm teaching half dozen roses classes a week in in the city Saturday was baked a day and we'd go the bake up getting beautiful fresh bread and cut it thick you know and and because we were vegan I slept me put the the vegetables on top of it and boy I plow into it half an hour later I was asleep on the lounge Ellen said to the boys look let Dad sleep because you know he's been teaching Olivos aerobics classes during the week he's tired but that wasn't the case I've taken a drug called food I suffered reactive hypoglycemia I was renowned for falling asleep going to dinner with Eric insert' because I'd have the bread and the beer and all that sort of stuff and I take a drug it's in my my blood sugar up and plummeting down meanwhile I was putting on weight around the waist on my high fat vegan on my low fat vegan diet and I didn't have an energy and I was feeling crook because I took a drug called food but it was having a negative impact you know and now this you know books written food be your medicine here's a lovely quote the food you eat can either be the safest and most powerful form of medicine or the slowest form of poison and I think we're there except just oral hygiene these things can take 10 and 20 years to manifest themselves and you know we had a friend borrow a diesel car we got it forward we had a four-wheel-drive diesel car and guess what they did they filled it up with petrol that was a very expensive exercise so you've got to determine what is the right fuel for your body because I am convinced that one diet doesn't fit or where it is it where is the diet business where in the weight loss business diets work but people don't work but they've got to have the diet that's right for them Ginny says you've got to find what works best for you and you gotta have a process okay so it's workshop time now it's time for you to do something what I'd like you all to do is roll up your sleeves roll up sleeves so we can see your forearm please do it now I'm the boss come on quick quick quick quick quick okay now compare your skin color to the person next to you on your forearm right just have a look YouTube even if you were in the same family that's okay now don't talk I didn't say talk at this campus I'd compare I want you to choose which one of you probably has the lowest son torrent which means if you both went out laid on the beach of South Bank there which one would have to start covering up the sins now I want you to if it's you put up your hand if you're the one with the lower son tolerance now is there anything you can do about that apart from staying out the Sun apart from putting on sunblock apart and covering up there is nothing you can do about it is that so each one of us has different sun tolerance and there's nothing you can do about it equally we have an individual carbohydrate tolerance when we went to lunch in Paddington there was this very slim girl and we didn't order any bread or rice or posturing like that she said I live on it she has a very high carb torrent and good on her but me say I want a body like you and so I'm going to start eating like you doesn't work and within our sense that we've got personal trainers you don't want to eat like then then naturally slim you know if they said just eat like me you would be fat and so you better figure out you what is your individual carburetor car carbohydrate torrance per meal and per day and have a process for some people like that girl we saw your say it's 200 grams a day for some it's only 150 to some it's 180 60 and Jimmy I think yours is around 20 is that right around 20 grams per day so one diet doesn't fit all you're just going to figure out what's right for you now and you have to be under your carb tolerance for at least two weeks and maybe four weeks or maybe even six weeks or longer before you keto adapt which is a great term where your body starts creating its own energy from your own fat stores and and if anybody's passionate about exercise and I hope you all are or particularly performance like then some cyclists in Brisbane the art and science of low carb performance is a fabulous book to read no but we'll post those links later so - your body and it doesn't make any difference where the carbs come from whether it comes from fruits starchy veggies grain milk juice soft drinks beer or wine doesn't make any difference you know it's a political your body doesn't care it's going to just bring it into Blucher and then we often get the question is it just carbs what about curries now Jimmy said so eloquently when you when you bring your carbs down naturally you tend not to be as hungry and heat two leads two meals per day and so calories do count but the good news is you don't have to count them you don't have to count them at all good we're back online so with a well-formulated and rod used that term well-formulated low-carb diet you don't have to count them and what does a low-carb diet look like now Robin I asked Robin and she's slim and she she works out and she's athletic but I she fall the low-carb diet I said well Rob would you mind not just taking photos of your meals but also measuring very carefully how much protein carbohydrate and fat in each meal so that was a breakfast hour isn't this cute look at the egg rings made out of green capsicum yeah she is so clever you know so um and boy does that look delicious that was lunch no you know she's eating vegetables like a vegetarian isn't she looked back lots of veggies there lots of veggies there one thing she has in common with vegetarians eating lots of lovely green veggies non starchy vegetable Cod oh and there's olive oil on there and dinner chicken with the skin you know game with some low starch eat veggies and she might have a shake in in you know mid-morning mid-afternoon if she feels like it sometimes she doesn't so what does it look like and that's protein fat carbohydrate and this time we've added fiber to now breakfast 39 grams of protein 29 grams of fat 2 grams of carb 2 grams of fiber snack 15 4 3 2 lunch 21 grams of protein and it's tough getting the protein in 24 grams of fat 7.4 grams of carbohydrate there's a snack she had a shake and then in dinner protein fat 11 grams now let's just go back and have a look at that would you say that she's on a high-fat diet am I just looking at it does it look like look like a healthy low-fat diet doesn't it so but let's go back and now let's look at the grounds 123 74 grams of fat 16 grams of carb and 10 grams of fiber but each gram of protein has four calories so 123 times four is 495 each gram of fat has nine courage 74 times 9 and 667 each gram of carb has four carries same with fiber so twelve hundred and seventy carrots and sheep might just you know she looked at over quite a few days sometimes she ate 1,800 calories and this was a lo day but for somebody the her size but remember she's also accessing around fat is like an equilibrium to fill in on the low days and let's look at it on a percentage basis her diet is fifty-three percent fat she is actually on a high-fat diet like me I said my doctor the other day said you know I just had cholesterol readings you know I was about that age I better start getting your cholesterol rent and they were all fine I said so my high fat diet much it should be working for me I had this look well it must be no so anyway so there's one we're always looking at books and before I finish I sometimes things just upset you you know here is hearing something and I'll read it from the Australian just last week exercise Keith key for healthy children other kids are not overweight because they eat too much it's because they don't exercise enough a new Australian study has found children who were overweight or obese by the time they were 12 did not consume more kilojoules than those who are lean instead the researcher said the children who were lighter were more active overweight children tend to be less active and therefore need to eat less if this is true the researcher said it's obviously pretty important because it tells us we should be trying to increase kids activity levels rather than focus on what they eat he said that body weight was about about bouncing energy intake with how much was used calories in calories out it all comes down to balance fat is due to energy imbalance Professor Tim olds said and I've learned him for 30 years and I couldn't disagree with him more but so here's my opinion and I'm not a scientist it's just my opinion many overweight children may have been born with a damaged metabolism due to the maternal diet what their mother ate the foods and drinks they've been fed or allowed to eat have made it worse an illinois go and have a sumo cell other mount omni shopping center and we see parents poisoning their children and grandparents poisoning that their grandkids giving them diabetes you know it's an absolute disgrace I feel like saying hey look I'm giving up some free cigarettes to the kids you know you're giving them diabetes how about I give lung cancer I really do just it upsets me and despite not eating more than their slim peers they're hormonal response directs dietary energy to their fat cells so they don't have the energy available to be inclined towards being physically active so you treat petitioning having you there reading it it's going all our curries going through our mouths but for these kids a lot of it and if you read Gary Taubes it's not available for energy it's going to the fat cells wherever so it's going there and they simply don't have the energy they're not inclined to be thing being physically active you know and that's where but I think you know he was just so wrong you just got it wrong the solution is not about starving them getting them to eat less and or flogging them to exercise more it's about adapting a diet that recognizes their individual carb tolerance limiting fructose load and resetting their hormones so that they can become fat burners all right that's a ssin and it's more complicated than energy in energy out here's the same for you it's easier to believe a simple lie than a complex truth okay it's easier to believe a simple lies and complex truth this is a complex truth you know that the calories in carries out you know it just doesn't work and it takes a whole family approach you know and we've found the diet things and so I but I've got to have this stuff to the kids that's crap and I just finish off who've seen the Tom Hanks movie the castaway okay fine great movie ask yourself this question if you and your youngest child will cast away on a desert island and there was nothing to eat no cereal no bread no toast even though wine no no beer but there was plenty of fish there was plenty of coconuts good source of saturated fat plenty of water plenty of fruits and vegetables but only in season because nowadays people don't know the seasons apples and oranges do they they just don't that's why we took too much fructose particularly because it's available all the time and plenty of eggs that birds laid would you and your youngest child live or die now you're short now think about it no wheat mix no toast no you know no one would you live with you would you end up slimmer or healthier were you pretty well on a paleo friendly low-carb diet aren't you pretty well like Robin just served up herself just do that just eat real food so take our messages exercise is important to your health but it's not effective for weight loss and I am an exercise junkie I believe I asked Eric the dentist which tooth should I floss he said only the ones want to keep what I say which muscles should I exercise only the ones you want to keep alright if you want a six pack or a slim tommy consider a well-formulated low-carb diet and be willing to take your time and make changes and at Jimmy says discover what works for your body and you don't have to go alone for some people they can read a book and they're to follow it and they're done some need coaching most of our children go to to school they get textbooks that they've got a teacher and some have extra coaches as well in the Gosport coaches so if you need coaching or a support group seek that out that you don't have to go it alone so thank you very much I'm Jamie Hayes from daya flicks and also before you go before clap if anybody is interested in asthma please go check out my personal blog on aspen nutrition - and you might find that interesting or you might like to contribute thank you [Applause] you
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Length: 29min 16sec (1756 seconds)
Published: Mon Dec 17 2012
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