>>> WE'RE BACK. IT IS 8:14. WE TALKED ABOUT HER JOURNEY FROM THE STREETS OF BALTIMORE TO THE HEIGHTS OF HOLLYWOOD, THAT INCIDENT AT THE OSCAR, HER BATTLE WITH SEVERE DEPRESSION, HER RELATIONSHIP WITH WILL SMITH. AND AFTER ALL OF IT, JADA SAYS SHE'S FINALLY FEELING WORTHY. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE READ. IT IS PACKED WITH SO MUCH. SO GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >> GLAD TO SEE YOU. >> AFTER WE SAW YOUR SITDOWN, THIS IS STUFF YOU HAVE BEEN CARRYING WITH YOU FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT'S OUT THERE. AS WE SIT HERE TODAY IN A REFLECTION OF WAS IT THE RIGHT THING TO REVEAL, TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE? >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK YOU, AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, HAD TO TALK ABOUT MY JOURNEY, YOU KNOW? AND I THINK, JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THERE IS SO MANY OF US THAT HOLD SO MUCH. YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY WOMEN AND FEELING LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE CRITICIZED. >> YEAH, CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. >> JUDGED. YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. AND THE BEAUTIFUL PART ABOUT IT IS THIS WHOLE JOURNEY, AS DIFFICULT AS IT'S BEEN, HAS JUST BROUGHT WILL AND I CLOSER IN SUCH AN AUTHENTIC WAY, YOU KNOW. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BE A THING, IT'S LIKE JUST TEARING ALL THAT DOWN AND FINDING WHAT'S TRUE BETWEEN US. >> WOW. >> AND IT'S BEEN BEAUTIFUL. IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT. >> IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT. >> BUT BEAUTIFUL. >> BECAUSE ONE THING PEOPLE WERE CONFUSED ABOUT WAS REALLY, OKAY, HANG ON. THEY HAVE BEEN DIVORCED IN THEORY BUT NOT ON PAPER. >> YES. >> THEY'VE BEEN -- THEY WERE NOT TOGETHER BUT KIND OF PRETENDED THEY WERE TOGETHER. SO I HAD TROUBLE ARTICULATING EXACTLY WHY THAT WAS. SO NOW THAT YOU HAVE HAD MORE TIME. >> RIGHT. >> WHY WAS THAT? >> WE REALLY NEEDED TIME TO GET SOLIDIFIED. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WILL AND I LOVE EACH OTHER. WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANTED BEFORE WE WENT INTO THE WORLD TO SAY WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE WE WERE IN SUCH, YOU KNOW -- WE WERE JUST KIND OF IN THIS VERY FRAGILE PLACE. SO NOW WE'RE JUST SUPER SOLID. >> YEAH. >> AND SO NOW I CAN ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT THE JOURNEY HAS BEEN. >> SO WILL TALKED TO "THE NEW YORK TIMES" OR GAVE A STATEMENT. THIS IS WHAT HE SAYS. THIS IS FROM THE TIMES ITSELF. THE MEM MOR WILL SMITH IN AN E-MAIL KIND OF WOKE HIM UP. SHE'D LIVED THE LIFE MORE ON THE EDGE THAN HE HAD REALIZED. AND THIS IS THE QUOTE. WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN WITH SOMEONE FOR MORE THAN HALF YOUR LIFE HE WROTE, A SORT OF EMOTIONAL BLINDNESS SETS IN, AND ALL YOU CAN DO -- AND YOU CAN ALL TOO EASILY LOSE YOUR SENSITIVITY TO THEIR HIDDEN NUANCES AND SUBTLE BEAUTIES. IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EMOTIONAL BLINDNESS, HE DIDN'T SEE YOU. IS THAT KIND OF WHAT IT WAS? >> I THINK, YEAH, THAT'S SO UNIVERSAL IN RELATIONSHIPS. HE DIDN'T SEE ME, AND I DIDN'T SEE HIM, RIGHT? SO WE KIND OF HAD TO GO OUR SEPARATE WAYS TO SEE EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW? BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP AND YOU'RE KIND OF JUST PULLING AT THAT PERSON TO BE SOMETHING FOR YOU, YOU REFUSE TO SEE THEM. >> UH-HUH, UH-HUH. >> SO WE HAD TO GO OUR SEPARATE WAYS TO REALLY LOOK AT OURSELVES AND SEE THE BLOCKS THAT WE HAD IN ORDER TO FIND A WAY BACK. >> ONE PART THAT WAS VERY SENSITIVE WITH YOU, AND IT WAS VERY TOUCHING TO ME THAT YOU HAD GONE THROUGH IT, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA THAT YOU WERE MAYBE GOING TO KILL YOURSELF. >> YEAH. >> THAT YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE NOT -- YOUR KIDS WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF, WILL WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF, EVERYONE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU. WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU SAW THAT PART OF YOUR STORY TOLD IN THAT WAY? >> WELL, I HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT. THEY KNEW THAT, YEAH, THEY KNEW BEFORE THE INTERVIEW CAME OUT. BUT I WAS TALKING TO MY MOTHER THE OTHER DAY. AND EVERYBODY KNEW THAT I WAS VERY UNHAPPY, BUT JUST COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY. BECAUSE EVERYBODY THOUGHT HOW I THOUGHT. YOU HAVE GOT EVERYTHING. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ME EITHER. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER DURING THAT TIME, NO ONE WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH. I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND AND NOBODY AROUND ME UNDERSTOOD. >> THE OTHER THING PEOPLE ASKED ME IS YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU WERE AT THE BRINK AND THEN SOMETHING -- YOU TOOK SOMETHING, AND IT CHANGED YOU, AND IT WAS IOWASKA FOR YOU. >> YEAH. >> IOWASKA REALLY WAS -- >> THAT WAS THE TURNING POINT. >> THAT TURNED YOU FROM THE BRINK OF SUICIDE. >> AND I NEVER HAD A SUICIDAL THOUGHT AGAIN. NOW, IN SAYING THAT, IOWASKA IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY. AND I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. YOU HAVE TO REALLY HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS VERY TRAINED TO GUIDE YOU THROUGH THAT. IT WAS A VERY EXTREME, YOU KNOW, SITUATION FOR ME. BUT I SWEAR, I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT I WENT THROUGH IT BECAUSE IN FOUR DAYS AND FOUR EXCRUCIATING NIGHTS, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE -- >> AND YOU NEVER HAD A SUICIDAL THOUGHT SINCE THEN? >> NEVER. >> THE TITLE OF YOUR BOOK IS "WORTHY." TODAY AS WE SIT HERE ON THIS COUCH -- >> I FEEL WORTHY. I HAVE JUST BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH. AND WHEN YOU CAN REALLY LOOK AT YOUR LIFE -- WE THINK THAT LIFE IS SUPPOSED TO BE PERFECT. WHEN LIFE ISN'T PERFECT, WE THINK, OH, I'M NOT WORTHY. THEN SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ME. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS ABOUT. WE GET CHALLENGED WITH LIFE IN ORDER TO KEEP BUILDING OUR SELF-WORTH, TO KEEP FINDING OUR GREATNESS, YOU KNOW? THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK IS ABOUT, IT IS ABOUT THAT JOURNEY. >> IF YOU FIND ANOTHER GREAT LOVE OR IF WILL FINDS ANOTHER GREAT LOVE. >> THERE IS NO FINDING ANOTHER GREAT LOVE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE POINT. IT'S LIKE WE ARE IN A PLACE NOW THAT WE ARE IN A DEEP HEALING SPACE, AND WE ARE REALLY CONCENTRATING ON HEALING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN US. >> SO IT MAY NOT BE THE DIVORCE ON PAPER ANYMORE. >> THERE IS NO DIVORCE ON PAPER. >> NOT ON PAPER. THERE MIGHT NOT BE A DIVORCE IN THEORY ANYMORE? >> YEAH. NO. WE REALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD. >> OH! OKAY. WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO TELL YOU. >> YOU TOTALLY MISSED THAT. THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. >> SO WAIT. JUST SO I'M 100% SURE. YOU WERE DIVORCED NOT ON PAPER. >> RIGHT. >> BUT NOW WE MIGHT BE A POINT WHERE WE'RE BACK TOGETHER? >> WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD AT BRINGING OUR RELATIONSHIP -- YES, BRINGING OUR RELATIONSHIP BACK TOGETHER. >> BACK TO A MARRIAGE AGAIN. >> BACK TO A LIFE PARTNERSHIP, YES. BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING ABOUT -- >> TELL ME. >> HUSBAND-WIFE MARRIAGE FOR ME, FOR MY HEALING PROCESS. I CAME INTO THAT WITH VERY SPECIFIC IDEAS, RIGHT? VERY SPECIFIC IDEAS THAT WERE BLOCKS. TO ME JUST SEEING WILL TO WHO HE IS. HE CAN'T BE THIS PERFECT IDEALIZED HUSBAND. >> YES, YES, OF COURSE. >> I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT HIM FOR THE HUMAN HE IS. HE ACCEPTS ME FOR THE HUMAN THAT I AM, AND WE WANT TO LOVE EACH OTHER THERE. >> OKAY. SO YOU MIGHT LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE AND HAVE THIS -- >> YEAH. >> OKAY. HODA, THAT'S THE ONLY PART. THAT'S THE ONLY PART OF THE SPECIAL THAT I FELT LIKE I LOST. I WAS LIKE, HOLD UP. >> WE FOUND IT TODAY. WE FOUND IT TODAY. JADA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> CHECK OUT THE BOOK "WORTHY," IT HAS A LOT OF LIFE LESSONS ON IT AND IT TELLS YOU SO MUCH ABOUT YOUR LIFE STORY, SO MUCH IN HERE ABOUT HOW YOU RAISE YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR LIFE BEFORE THEM. IT'S FULL OF RICHNESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE BOOK IS OUT TOMORROW. >>> ALL RIGHT. MR.
