Investigating the con that combines romance scams and crypto fraud (Marketplace)

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[theme music playing] [David]<i> It's a new con that's cheating Canadians</i> <i> out of millions.</i> I was stupid to get into this kind of scam. Do you think you'll ever recover financially? [Peter] No. [David]<i> Built on romance,</i> <i>friendship, and cryptocurrency.</i> [Dana] These scammers, they play on the deepest human emotions. [David]<i> We go overseas to uncover a shocking twist.</i> Some people have used the term "cyber slave" to describe what you were involved in. Were you ever worried for your life? [John] For real. Absolutely. [David]<i> This is your</i> Marketplace. [David]<i> We're burning the midnight oil</i> <i> because we are in the middle of what looks to be a scam.</i> Oh. She has sent a couple selfies. This is the first one. [David]<i> A new type of fraud</i> <i> that can start with a random message on social media</i> <i> from someone looking for romance or friendship.</i> So she said this is a beach that she went to over the weekend. [David]<i> My colleague, Katie, is contacted out of the blue</i> <i> by a woman calling herself Zhou Ya.</i> <i> The pictures she sends could be fake,</i> <i> but the scam she's setting up is very real.</i> So, a couple of weeks, many, many messages, building this relationship. You're friends with her now. [chuckles] A little bit. [David]<i> Zhou Ya says she lives in Singapore,</i> <i> 12 hours ahead of us,</i> <i> and along with shopping,</i> <i> likes to invest in cryptocurrency.</i> "Many people are involved in it, making profits every day." Are you saying you made over $20,000 in 24 hours? That does not seem possible. [David]<i> Now she's offering to help us make money too,</i> <i> and wants us to download an app to get it going.</i> All right, shall we go for it? -Let's do it. -All right. [David]<i> Our research tells us</i> <i> Zhou Ya is likely trying to empty our bank account.</i> "So I downloaded the app." [David]<i> Before the night is through,</i> <i> we'll be calling her up and calling her out.</i> "Hey, good morning." -Mm-hmm. -She's responding. <i> But our investigation begins here,</i> <i> in Bangkok, Thailand,</i> <i> with a former scammer we're calling "John."</i> <i> He's worried he might be in danger by speaking out,</i> <i> so we've agreed to hide his identity.</i> Did you ever feel bad for the people you were scamming? [John] Karma. It will come around to you. [David]<i> John worked for criminals</i> <i> who would target vulnerable people,</i> <i> including Canadians.</i> What were they asking you to do? [David]<i> They call it "pig butchering."</i> <i> The goal: gain the victim's trust,</i> <i> then steal their money.</i> [bell chiming] <i> It's exactly what happens to Stephanie Lin of Edmonton.</i> Half million US dollar. [sobs] All my life saving. You attempted suicide. Yeah. I feel I loved this person a lot, and I trusted him, and I put all my money into the project that he wants me to do. And... I can't bear to lose him. [David]<i> For Stephanie, it starts with a message on LinkedIn</i> <i> from a guy using the name "Robin Murray."</i> I'm very cautious about these social media things, right? So, if someone wanted to be a friend or connection from Facebook or Instagram, I will say, "What's their motive?" [David]<i> This seems like more of a professional connection,</i> <i> though she does find him attractive.</i> <i> What she doesn't know is that his photos are stolen</i> <i> from someone's social media.</i> <i> They move their messaging to WhatsApp</i> <i> and begin to connect.</i> <i> Stephanie is a retail manager in a high-end store.</i> <i> Robin says he's a marketing manager for a major airline.</i> <i> These early contacts are exciting.</i> I had never had someone call me "honey," "baby," that kind of stuff, right? It's very sweet. I feel emotionally attached with him. [David]<i> It's all part of the pig butchering playbook,</i> <i> according to our former scammer, John.</i> How would you convince victims to invest? [John] [David]<i> It's known as "fattening the pig."</i> <i> Scammers build trust,</i> <i>then encourage small investments in cryptocurrency</i> <i> to make the victim think they've made easy money.</i> So he asked me to invest, right? And I say that I don't believe this kind of investment, because I heard a lot of other story. And he said, "You don't trust my love? Okay, I'm very disappointed in you." -Blah, blah, blah. -He's playing on your emotions. Yeah. [Robin speaking other language] [David]<i> Robin shares this video,</i> <i> claiming it's where he and his colleagues</i> <i> make their millions</i> <i> with precisely-timed transactions on crypto markets.</i> <i> Stephanie is soon cashing in RRSPs,</i> <i> converting dollars to bitcoin as instructed,</i> <i> watching her money grow on crypto platforms</i> <i> that she has no idea are fake,</i> <i>set up and run by the scammers.</i> It looks, on this platform, like you're making money. Yeah. At first I was at 890,000. He said, "Wow, honey, let's go. You're going to be a millionaire." [David]<i> Former scammer John says</i> <i> victims are usually allowed to withdraw a bit</i> <i>to encourage bigger investments.</i> [John] [David]<i> That's called "the slaughter."</i> <i> Stephanie tries making a bigger withdrawal,</i> <i> and her account is suddenly frozen.</i> <i> Robin says it's because</i> <i> she hasn't made a transaction lately.</i> <i> But she's tapped out.</i> <i> That's when he disappears.</i> I was stupid. I always try to be very intelligent. But I fall for this. And I consider this as a shame. [David]<i> Stephanie's case lands here.</i> <i> We're inside the Cyber Crimes unit</i> <i> with Edmonton police detective Dana Gehring.</i> <i> He's become an expert on pig butchering.</i> These scammers, they play on the deepest human emotions. It's love, greed, compassion, trust. Whatever it is that they can wrap themselves around to try and pull those individuals in, they will do that. [David]<i> Romance and investment scams</i> <i> cost Canadians just over $60 million in 2020.</i> <i> By last year, losses ballooned six times,</i> <i> to about $360 million.</i> <i> And many victims never come forward.</i> But you can see how fast it evolved. -[David] Yeah. -And how profitable it is. But you are making a dent. How do you do that? One of the things you wanna do is follow the money. [David]<i> That's where Ryan Ryder comes in.</i> I can show you kind of in a live time what that looks like. [David]<i> Ryder is a former cop</i> <i>who helps global law enforcement trace criminal activity</i> <i>in the world of cryptocurrency.</i> <i> He's giving us an inside look</i> <i> at cutting-edge tactics they use.</i> This particular address, um, has sent -some 648 bitcoin to it. -That's a lot of money. We've got $20.6 million US that have been sent to that address by itself. So, certainly that's more than one victim that we're seeing here. This is much easier to follow than cash. It is fully open source. It is a public ledger. You can-- you can look at every transaction that's ever come in and ever gone out of every Bitcoin address in existence. We translate those letters and numbers that are Bitcoin addresses, we translate those into entities, and we cluster them. And we're able to identify that this group of addresses belongs to this particular scam or this particular exchange. [David]<i> In Stephanie's case,</i> <i> they were able to trace her money</i> <i> all the way to Cambodia,</i> <i> a known scamming hotspot.</i> <i> But there are legal roadblocks trying to retrieve it.</i> <i> Back in Toronto...</i> I would love to know what's happening on the other side here. <i> Suspected scammer Zhou Ya is urging us</i> <i> to invest perhaps $10,000.</i> She says you can earn about $120-$150 US a day. <i> Before we do, we ask for a video call.</i> <i> Instead, Zhou Ya responds with a voice message.</i> [Zhou Ya] [David]<i> But when we do call, there's no answer.</i> [dial tone ringing] Oh, she's just responded to you. "This confuses me because I've called you a few times. Could it be because of the network?" <i> She clearly doesn't want to talk.</i> <i> And we really don't wanna give her the money.</i> We know that this is the exact pattern used to defraud thousands of people out of millions of dollars. <i> People like Peter, also in Edmonton,</i> <i> who's packing up memories and his mother's belongings.</i> [Peter] There's probably nothing worse than to tell your family you've lost everything. [David]<i> He's selling his mom's home</i> <i> to help pay back money he lost</i> <i> from when he was pig butchered too.</i> [Peter] It-- it feels awful. [David]<i> Peter is worried about his professional reputation,</i> <i> so we've agreed to hide his identity.</i> How much did they get from you? [Peter] Probably close to $400,000. -That's huge. -It's everything I have. It's devastating. [David]<i> There's no real seduction involved with Peter.</i> <i> He's actually the one to reach out first.</i> This all started with something you saw on Facebook. [Peter] I saw advertisements for cryptocurrency. It was in a time where I was just trying it out. I was very new, and I needed help doing it. [David]<i> Peter contacts an online exchange</i> <i> called Cryptos Circus.</i> <i> It sets him up with a broker to teach him how to trade,</i> <i> though Peter says it was more than that.</i> [Peter] It was like a friendship. He said, "You'll be able to help your mom." [David]<i> Peter deposits $25,000.</i> <i> He's told they'll be making sophisticated trades,</i> <i> exploiting tiny differences in the price of cryptocurrency</i> <i> on different markets.</i> He would call me, "You just made this huge amount of money today. How-- how are you feeling about that?" And I'm like, "I'm ecstatic. I can't believe how much money you made me today." [David]<i> Peter can track his profits</i> <i> on the Cryptos Circus website,</i> <i> not realizing it's part of the scam.</i> <i> Just like Stephanie, they let him withdraw some money</i> <i> to convince him it's all real.</i> <i> Peter soon invests more.</i> Tell me about how you got your mom involved in this. [Peter] He asked me if I could get some money, and if I was willing to do approximately a $250,000 investment. He said probably within 30 to 60 days, that million dollars would be ready to go in my-- in my bank account. I went and I asked my mom. I-- I asked her what she thought. And she says, "Well, that sounds too good to be true to me." And then I showed her pictures of all of the trading that we've done, all of the profits I have. So my mom trusted me to do that investment. So-- so we took a loan out on her house to do it. Biggest mistake of my life. [David]<i> When that quarter of a million dollar loan</i> <i> is transferred into cryptocurrency,</i> <i> the scammer claims Peter does something wrong.</i> When I did that investment, he called me. He said, "Well, I don't have the money. What did you do?" And I said "I don't know what you're saying. That transfer was done an hour or two ago." They put it on me and said, "Well, you-- you did it wrong. So now that money's gone." How has it impacted your relationship -with your family? -[Peter sighs] [tearful] We've always been a very positive family, and... I've been labelled as a criminal... in my family, to some of them. And it's devastated me. [David]<i> But could the scammers be victims too?</i> You thought you might die. [John]<i> Yeah. I worry about that.</i> [David]<i> This is your</i> Marketplace. <i> We're tracking a new scam known as "pig butchering."</i> [Katie] It's a lot of money. [David]<i> It's a long-term con</i> <i> where victims are persuaded through romance or friendship...</i> I was being scammed. [David]<i> ...to empty their life savings</i> <i> into investment schemes</i> <i> built on cryptocurrency fraud.</i> [Peter] They tricked me. It feels awful. [David]<i> It's costing Canadians millions.</i> -You gotta follow the money. -Gotta follow the money. [David]<i> And in a twist just as shocking,</i> <i> it's ruining lives half a world away.</i> [tense music playing] <i>We're back in Bangkok, searching the other side of this scheme</i> <i>with a man we're calling "John."</i> <i> He's a former scammer who, as it turns out,</i> <i> is also a victim.</i> Some people have used the term "cyber slave" to describe what you were involved in. [John] Were you ever worried for your life? [David]<i> This compound is part of a casino in Cambodia,</i> <i> in the resort town of Sihanoukville.</i> <i> It's a sleepy place until Chinese investors transform it</i> <i> into a gambling destination</i> <i> and international crime groups move in.</i> <i> When the pandemic hits,</i> <i> the casinos go online,</i> <i> and the focus soon shifts to scamming.</i> [David]<i> John answers a job ad like this one,</i> <i> thinking he'll be working for an online casino.</i> <i>He quickly learns they want him for pig butchering instead.</i> What if you didn't make money for the company? Did you see any of that yourself? [David]<i> What you're about to see is hard to look at.</i> <i> These are verified photos</i> <i>from inside a scamming compound.</i> <i> They show what can happen to people who try to escape,</i> <i> or are tortured for not being a good scammer.</i> <i> John secretly tries reaching out for help,</i> <i> but he's caught.</i> <i> Expecting to be killed,</i> <i> he is instead sold to another scam centre</i> <i> for $11,000.</i> [David] What happened there? [David]<i> John quickly decides again to reach out for help.</i> <i>Using this fake Twitter account,</i> <i> he contacts a group actively working to free people</i> <i> from modern slavery.</i> [John] Good to see you. [David]<i> This is the man who helped John escape.</i> <i> Jake Sims works for the International Justice Mission,</i> <i> a group that tries to protect vulnerable people from violence.</i> What do the criminal kingpins look for in somebody they want to bring in to the operation? Vulnerability. Your typical profile is someone who probably speaks a couple of languages, is college-educated. You know, probably is quite savvy with technology, with social media. They're out of work, they're seeking, uh, quite high-risk employment opportunities, so they are-- they are desperate. [David]<i> And even though they do it under duress,</i> <i> Sims says people like John</i> <i> might still get penalized once it's over.</i> The people who are trapped in this, who are forced to work, it's huge risk. They are frequently detained, arrested, charged, and convicted, uh, when they return to their home country. [David]<i> In Cambodia alone, credible estimates say</i> <i> at least 100,000 people are made to work</i> <i> in online scams.</i> <i> They generate more than $8 billion a year.</i> <i> Forced scamming operations are now expanding</i> <i> throughout the region and beyond.</i> It's obscenely lucrative. Um, and it also is rather straightforward to operate. But above everything else, this exists because the people who are perpetrating it have very, very low risks of accountability. [David]<i> What happens when we confront the other side?</i> [Katie] "I know this is a scam. Is someone forcing you to do this?" [David]<i> This is your</i> Marketplace. <i> We're texting with someone we think is trying to scam us.</i> I think it's time to call them out. <i> It's called "pig butchering."</i> <i> And it comes with a bigger twist:</i> <i> many of the scammers are victims themselves.</i> <i> So we confront ours with caution.</i> [Katie] "I know this is a scam, but I also know that many people doing it are not bad people. Is someone forcing you to do this?" [David]<i> At first, they deny any wrongdoing.</i> "Why do you think this is a scam? I've been in it and nothing ever happened." [David]<i> But then they turn the tables</i> <i> and call us the bad guys.</i> "You are a liar? This sucks." <i> The exchange ends abruptly.</i> -We're blocked. -We're blocked. [tense music playing] <i> Many agree that public awareness is key</i> <i> to preventing pig butchering.</i> <i> But Jake Sims of the International Justice Mission</i> <i> says there's also a need for</i> <i> countries and companies to step up.</i> [Jake] So we know that the vast majority of these people are being exploited over social media platforms. We know that financial institutions both where the crime is occurring and internationally are being instrumentalised. Those actors are also gonna need to play a major role in the solution. [David]<i> We asked LinkedIn what it's doing</i> <i>to protect people like Stephanie</i> <i> from fraudsters like Robin Murray.</i> <i>It says it's introduced features such as identity verification.</i> <i> Meantime, Facebook tells us it has no record of the ad</i> <i> that lured Peter in and led to all of his losses.</i> <i>It says it's constantly working to block harmful activity.</i> [sniffles, stammers] It still give me tremendous pain. [David]<i> For victims like Stephanie and Peter,</i> <i> there is no easy way back.</i> [Peter] Yeah, I-- I'm working three jobs right now. Do you think you'll ever recover financially? [Peter] No. [sombre music playing] Have you forgiven yourself? Never. I don't think I will ever forgive myself. Because I was so dumb. [Peter] I'm gonna say yes. I think I can and I have. But... forgiveness is also remembering the things that you've done. [tearful] I just hope in the future, my family, in the end, can also give me their forgiveness.
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Channel: CBC News
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Keywords: Pig-butchering, Scam, scams, fraud, romance scams, investment schemes, cryptocurrency fraud, crypto, crypto fraud, con, stealing, cryptocurrency, Canada, Bangkok, CBC, Marketplace, David Common, investigation
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Length: 21min 55sec (1315 seconds)
Published: Sat Feb 10 2024
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