Interview with Glen Osberg, Vietnam War Veteran. CCSU Veterans History Project

today is December 14th 2018 I am interviewing gladden osburgh at Kamara at Norwalk Community College in Norwalk Connecticut the interview is interviewers Kayla Pittman working with Central Connecticut State University could you just please state your full name and the city and state in which you live yeah Glen Ralph osburgh you live in Darien Connecticut and in which war did you serve Vietnam what was your branch of service of the Army and what was your high spring first lieutenant okay and then you can yeah so so this is basically I attended Norwich University in Northfield Vermont and it's the oldest private Military College in the country basically they celebrate their 200th anniversary in 2019 and so I wrote this article and the motto school models are important it's cult I will try and I wrote this article to be released in their newsletter if you will something oddly enough that's called I will try great so I'll read it and then we could spin off and do you know we go back and forth but so I was born during the year of infamy an only child of depression born parents and raised by first-generation immigrants no one of both sides of my parents families ever attended college and none of the females ever finished high school so the notion of me going to college became a family obsession hmm particularly since I was the firstborn and also a male which sadly was a priority fifty years ago additionally everyone had been impacted by the horrors of three wars during their lifetime so the notion of peace during their lifetime was an illusion at best so going to college and certainly my country became a very clear objective for me before believe it or not I was 10 years old and as it turned out I was a good student and I was accepted to a number of colleges in the Northeast but in front of my dad so beyond I had the idea of attending Norwich University which I said is a pro oldest private military college in the United States and effectively the only and education at the same time it officers commission in other words be proactive on how I was going to serve my country during the era remember talk about the era of a draft mmm so when my parents dropped me off for a freshman orientation I basically had no clue what I was in for the first year was identical to how the plebes were treated at West Point and mmm by the time Christmas rolled around thirty percent of my class were gone basically in fact that hazing was accepted process and we doubled time I II ran everywhere where there are nine and a half pound m1 rifles which really dates me did thousands of push-ups eight square meals where you sit on the front inch of your chair sleep deprivation was the norm and one of my favorites was bracing where you basically threw you back against the wall plaster walls and those days to see how much class he could break or destroy whenever an upperclassman appeared so in short they were basically trying to break you I remember going home for the first time of Thanksgiving and my mother didn't recognize her little boy I lost 25 pounds I already slim frame and if they say literally scared dogs don't eat and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger so in short I grew up in those first six months so I graduated on time with a BA and government and a commission as a second lieutenant in the United States Army and began by active duty in 1965 when McNamara and Johnson were secretly deploying thousands of our troops to Vietnam my first assignment after officers basic at Fort Dodge Kentucky was as a platoon tank commander at Fort Irwin California which is now the US Army's desert training center where I was responsible for 19 enlistees and noncommissioned officers and over a million dollars worth of equipment and in 1964 dollars I finally remember those 120 degree days but no less so than my pregnant wife and every weekend we couldn't get head for the coast fast enough I'm one in case we're returning back late on a Sunday night and we're dropped stop by the MPS and advised that our Tank Battalion was on high alert and to prepare for the Watts rising in Los Angeles so as one of the junior officers I was responsible for marksmanship and bayonet training and to turnout we never did go to watts but our battalion was part of the 4th Infantry Division I'll give you copy this by the way after in Fort Lewis Washington and they deployed to Vietnam in August of 66 fortunately I did I had less than a year left so I was not I didn't have to go in fact two of my fellow officers like next-door neighbors got killed in her first month they were there and it became painfully clear that tanks were ill suited for jungle warfare and for the remainder of the war tanks are basically used as mobile artillery pieces fortunately I had less than a year left in as we call I was short and I was given a choice of staying there at the Fort Irwin or being reassigned to Fort Benning Georgia to become an instructor in the third army infantry school this was basically a no-brainer so with our eight-week old daughter we drove a thousand miles to Columbus Georgia and have occasion to live off-post and soak up the southern culture which at that time was very segregated and an eye-opener for a Connecticut native so for five days a week I taught a thousand draftees marksmanship training so talk about effective presentation in a hostile environment I didn't appreciate it at the time but again all this on-the-job leadership and management experience by the time I was 25 years old at the beginning of 1967 I was offered the opportunity to become an infantry captain if I would sign up for two more years in short get deployed to Vietnam but that time I realized that the military was not my life's ambition so I thought duster off a resume I answer to an ad the New York Times for a recruiter with the IBM corporation in Poughkeepsie New York so I basically made a cold call I flew to the Big Apple spent the day being interviewed and tested and as luck would have it my last interview was with the site general manager who also happened to be a Korean War vet and we hit it off immediately and by the time I landed back in Georgia I had a job offer so I subsequently spent 44 years with IBM which is basically a dinosaur of today's vernacular in various management leadership positions and I basically attribute a great deal of that success to my early military experience so as I said my college motto is I will try and for me that's been my guiding principle so this is an article I wrote as I said we just had our 55th anniversary at Norwich and I wrote it for the basically a school newspaper don't know that's a little background sure yeah so did you go to like an official boot camp or was the your whole college experience certainly no so so basically Norwich as I said was a private military college so you basically start over to see the day he got there yeah so two years basic ROTC and then you have to pass a surgeon test physical mental test to go to advance our to see your last two years your junior year you go to summer camp but therefore nice as an armor officer and then once I graduated in in May of 63 I got my degree plus my commission okay and then I went to graduate school and then after that we were the Fort Knox - started by my career basically as march of 65 in two years I got out in March of 67 okay yeah do you remember any of your instructors from Norwich yeah so I mean a lot of the the Norwoods instructors were they were a regular army so they were a career so basically the whole structure was that the students the Corps cadets really managed the school in other words it was just like West Point so but on top of that as far as guidance in terms of direction and how to do what and so forth it was well regular army officers who would then are still on active duty and they they basically they they enforced the discipline they did a lot a lot of things that they basically got you in line so yeah I remember so well kind of Aubrey and Hicks and they were tough I mean he's a rare army guys that they wanted to get you ready for what you're gonna do when he goes yeah so we do remember him so how did you know there's not only a lot of times but he'll saved a lot of push-ups yeah what are some of the things he did to get through all that tough times you know it's that's a good point but I you know as I said I was really focused on getting a degree because I was the firstborn that attend college out of my family and be you know the the ROTC and the the service part of that I just didn't I just thought it was part of my duty I could never have questioned it I was trying to be as I said earlier in this little article proactive in that I didn't want to be you know his heir the draft I didn't want to be you know pounding pebbles I wanted to do something that get and then my case was uh tanks and do something to be proactive about what I was gonna do over the next two years so that was basically that direction yeah sure and so then you went to Fort Knox after court Knox for basic training which was my wife and I we that she was just pregnant at that time so that was that was another little wrinkle but um so that was eight weeks there and which is almost it was almost a repetition what we did in my juniors okay yeah a lot of the same instructors a lot of the same stuff to cover so got out of there after eight weeks so that wasn't together you know that was a typical officers Candidate School when you get your commission after I had already had my commission so that was more of a refresh if you will before drawing it to Fort Irwin California okay what were your impressions of Fort Knox what do you think of it yeah it was uh it was Ann Arbor Center still is it was a you know it was a different part of the country I was in Connecticut native but never travelled very much yeah didn't have an awful lot of money I was a blue-collar family so it was you know getting out of Dodge and living in Kentucky and party life experience great so then you went to Fort Irwin California right and that was kind of funny because you know you could we got orders the two of us and my wife's pregnant no kids we just gotten married I got out of graduate school so I looked on my tours and it's a California 1/40 of beaches son and all of a sudden we look to set for when we looked it up in a map it's in Mojave Desert number one it's the size of Rhode Island it's just a huge it's the biggest biggest installation in the United States and though in those days it was not the desert training center for who Texas was but now it is it's really massive and only because you know dirt if you think of Iraq and Afghanistan the focus on desert training became a big deal but it was tough because 120 degrees we had we didn't have an air-conditioned car but we did have housing we had that you know we had offices housing so in which was air-conditioned but it was very isolated it was ten miles from the nearest town it was very insular was just a you know low army community centered around this armored battalion we were part of Fort Lewis Washington which was another 1500 miles away so we're just little really so we were pretty pretty isolated but this is where tough because you had to walk watch were you walked there were scorpions all over the place and and Sidewinders I mean it was you really have to be very careful you know the temperature would range for 120 hundred 25 degrees during the day to 80 degrees at night it would drop 40 to 50 degrees and he would start all over again so desert living is not and that was real it would felt like the high desert you know Phoenix or you know it was the real hardcore so when you you know in here those web forecasts or somewhere they say needles California honor Detroit that's what we were okay yeah so where'd some things you did for to entertain yourselves there well I was spray active with you know I was I was a young lieutenant on the block so I got to of lead the physical training in the morning in fact we would actually get up to 5 to do or physical training be done by 6 can just tell guys we'll check with you later on the set because it gets so hot they couldn't stay outside the motor pool so they would go work out so the things we did to keep busy I basically coached the flag football team a basketball team I played on both of them have a swim team I was part of so yeah we were young it was still very physically active so that was some of the stuff but as I said my wife is pregnant so although she belonged to organizations before he went there there was nothing around Barstow California middle of nowhere that was the closest town so things that she did back in Cleveland when we first got married they weren't even around like the to do League so so that was basically it you know in China every weekend we try to get there give to the coach just get out of the heat bro so what was your you said you did you trained people from in the morning five to six was our that rest of your day to day so yeah you know we would have classes indoor which is the most of stuff to do because it was so darn hot out you cannot do anything outside so any any classes we gave and over a lot of classes a week seats were all indoors so it would it could have been anything maintenance classes up you know I'd take care of your tank and gonorrhea but we did a lot of because we were part of the 4th Infantry Division out of Fort Lewis we were called what's track alert we were always on 24-hour work and so we did a lot of field exercises we went out and did a lot of within within the battalion you know doing exercises on a field to get ready for a combat which is an interesting point I remember when we first got there somebody told me just to give an idea this that that the risk is and always you have to be in combat when just two years before we got there there was an exercise between Fort Hood Texas and Fort Irwin what were they battalion came from foot at Berlin and it was a desert training warfare games for a month and 17 people died in training so snake bites people run over at night with like paying silly so yeah there were a lot of and because you have to keep busy with a lot of field exercises okay what was the food like well you know you shopped it to px which is the local stuff I mean it cuz you got a discount not great I mean what's an army for does not like eating c-ration you're not out in the field so but you were subject to you're not gonna go in drive 15 miles get groceries and drive back in it in the desert in the heat so we basically bought all the food at the PX it was okay was it great you know we got through it when you're young and you don't have any other choice should do it right yeah yeah did you stay in touch with your family well I can come oh yeah know for sure because what's Linda was was pregnant so her mom came out a couple times from Cleveland and then we had like my grandmother passed away here in Connecticut so I had to come back for that but we you know we didn't you know we didn't leave for her until we transferred to come back to Fort Benning Georgia so we were out there the whole time from the time we landed in May of sixty-five till the time we left in the spring of 66 to go to Fort Benning so so we were here but we didn't come back for Christmas or Thanksgiving or anything but it was you know phone calls letters or so the answer is yes yeah sure did you feel a lot of pressure of stress when you were four early do what I did was there a lot of pressure of stress there yeah the fact that you know that anomalous you know Vietnam was ramping up no one knew if we were going to be deployed or not certainly most of the effort early on was you know advisers and infantry it was a very much armor and as I said I were the armored ammo Wesson overages specialty it was one of the highest fatality MLS's during a war but we always were conscious of that you know Nam was it was gonna happen and whether we win or not it wasn't it wasn't a question of if it was win yeah and they finally deployed in August of 66 and I basically googled it because I lost touch with with everyone we were there less than a year and once they got over there they were deployed into about four to five different infantry and armored regiments they didn't stay as a wrong view that they got you know between here or there so they dispersed fundamentally so what did you think of your fellows servicemen their officers you know they were all draftees so the allistic guys it was an interesting mix there the draftees were all mostly local California kids that were in it for because they got drafty so they weren't real happy to be there they had their two-year obligation and most all the noncommissioned officers my sergeants were all were all Korean War vets and they were they were tough old dogs a they didn't they were not all spit and polish but if you want to go out in the desert and learn how to you know drive a tank and and over and find your way they were terrific because they you know they had hands-on experience so it was kind of interesting mix and do you remember any funny or interesting events that happens and forever well you know we it was the the officers got together a lot so there was a lot of beer drinking on the weekends with everybody but um one of the interesting was when I managed the basketball team and so we won the post championship which is start you know just our little battalion so we got invited to play the Marines in Barstow there was a supply outfit in Barstow California and we went and we beat them and they were so upset you know if you understand Marines marine pride and so forth so they insisted on a rematch this was a couple months later and they beat us and they they if you play basketball where they take full presses from it minute we got the ball they just ran us into the ground so that was that was kind of funny so anyway yeah we get away every weekend so we got to go a lot of my fellows I went to college with several over on a Coast one was a quarter board California one was at the Presidio it's a good Duty places along the coast so we get up and go there on the weekends go to San Diego so you know we managed to take advantage of the fact we're in California we had never been in California before so so that was fun I mean we're young you know just not much money but you know a lot of energy and curiosity so great did you keep a journal no I didn't I really didn't know a lot of stuff I remember because they still have a decent memory now I never do keep a journal okay were there any USO shows there no no we didn't get we didn't get many visitors yeah because you know there wasn't it would do even though we're a calm unit I'm sure all the USO activity occurred after the hour you know the battalion deployed enough during it over there but the answer is no yeah were you awarded any medals or citations no I just commendation letters when I got out of Fort Benning and also for everyone but you know there's no calm combat associated with that so the answer is yes but yeah nothing nothing special my god did you sustain any injuries throughout that time no no I'm not gonna would I was I was you know into a lot of Tanks a dangerous I mean it's a 52-ton thing that goes 40 miles an hour and banging the night so I mean a lot of guys with you know break limbs and falling off tanks and breaking fingers when a has snapped enough so no I was that was fortunate that we are okay what kind of tanks did you work with well they were call em 48 tanks so these are dinosaurs today and so I Nam when they deployed the naw they they they went with so if you think of a 90 millimeter gun that's the width of this room pretty much and she'll miss Finnegan that long and then they graduate the m60 s which were state-of-the-art they've they're Abram tanks which is another iteration so but five technologies ago and they were very they're like a coffin I mean there were four people in it there was a tank commander so I'd be a tank commander there did go a gunner a loader and a driver in a very confined space and so if you think of this is the inside of the tank with the with the 90 millimeter facing out all the rounds of ammunition were all inside the tank so you're staring at ball so if you got hit with the armor-piercing round on the outside you're toast because all that stuff was gonna explode so they were not we called the coffin in some cases and that's what happened in so they were a very visible and you know very vulnerable let's put that away sure so that was a little level of anxiety mm-hmm so uh after for her when you went to Fort Benning Georgia correct yeah we drove there with our little eight week old daughter which is that's another little story she was born in Fort Irwin California and the gentleman who delivered her it they never delivered a baby beef Wow he was an active duty too so that was it was like really haven't done this before so yeah we so we went to Fort Irwin and we were lucky enough to live off the post because the post for pay is huge there's about a hundred thousand active duty back then in those days it was it was the 3rd Infantry Division it was a Ranger School Airborne School so it was a bigger army town but there was no house so we arranged to a live downtown in Columbus Georgia and we lived in this little place called Zoe at court with this this family of people that were homegrown southerners that owned the hope they owned all that for homes and then the court my wife someone had the connection she walked at a junior live in Cleveland and she joins in Georgia ensue that connection she got we were able to live in a beautiful little ranch house and so when when I got through the day's work at at the post we kind of put on our our southern face and our civilian face pretty easily so that was kind of that was it that was a nice transition to be able to do dad and be surrounded by you know not service people 24/7 so so what was your impression of the base itself the post it was cold on that man it's a big huge play I mean as a hundred thousand folks in it and that was turned a ramp up so this is 1966 1967 when we were you know secretly deploying you know thousands of thousand people of Vietnam you remember although if you've seen all the all the TV documentaries have McNamara and Justin what they did behind everyone's back so banning was probably booming more than any post in the country because it was infantry was Airborne Ranger Special Forces but I basically I'd never went on the post because I had a rifle range I managed it was me right we were it was myself in for sergeants that random and we we were the last qualifying spot for it for the infantry school so basic trainees had know what it was eight or twelve weeks to get throat read the very internal qualification so the other thing in order to get out in other words in order to advance they had to pass their tests at my and my range so this is this is old school is like seventy five hundred fifty three hundred meter range targets which were totally impractical from Vietnam totally because everything was close range and it was jungle warfare pretty much so you don't really feel like you're preparing them though I did only because the fundamentals are still there and I'll pull them off around a few rivers you know fired a gun in terms of your posture don't jerk the trigger breathe that all that fundamental stuff but the idea of a thirty hundred meter target was fast film in Vietnam so what we good question what I wound up doing I have a special project that I was asked to do it was called snap shooting interesting shooting where we basically trained this was after they qualified a little module with with basically BB guns and and plastic targets from here to the door where you'd helped us just get around off don't even aim or anything just because the whose claims think shooting so yeah so so we have to adapt I mean you know look the l1 rifle nine and a half pounds that got replaced by the m14 m16 which are a lot lighter more suitable to jungle warfare so a lot of things changed okay you talked a bit about in your essay about segregation in the south and how that was kind of a new experience that was an eye-opener so my you had this thought I grest that that's one of one of the stories the minute we came in if we came in I don't know it was just 3,000 miles in him in the lengthy 6to4 value with no air-conditioning in an 8 week old baby remember coming into India at the Columbus Georgia we stayed in the hotel and I'm ever getting up the next who stated I really it was I couldn't we couldn't wait to get out wait kind of desperate to get out of a place for the night and the first thing we went to a gas station had colored only on the doors you know at the water fountain it was a whole you know for for a person from Connecticut and my wife was so Ohio it was an eye-opener but the real the real eye-opener was my my in-laws parents lived in Greenwood Mississippi mm-hmm which is the heart of the Delta and really you know in 1960 this is when things were just cranking up in terms of riots and so forth we had occasion to go visit them and they were born and bred southern you know Baptists and I remember um we spent the weekend with my this is my wife my grandparents my father lost folks we spent the weekend with him we got up on a Sunday morning with her little daughter to go back to Fort Benning we're just gonna visit and say hello and spend them you know have dinner and so forth we get up and there was a brochure sitting on my my car my car window the United Klans better North America we have a meeting this is 12 o'clock noon on a Sunday well as we're driving out of town there was a meeting down in this little football field people with white hoods on their horses no torches no anything but a clans meeting with several hundred people right there and they break down breathing was great in the town and right in football so that was that was another little there's another world out there for me so yeah that was that was a life experience so where were you were in Fort Benning when your service ended what was that was your last day like it was fun having a nice experience here I don't know you know I of course I had MOS is basically your your specialty so it I was a combat the tomb leader barber so I had an armored MOS right but the real the real nugget was and I almost had an infantry MOS because I was an infantry instructor and so I was offered to become a captain in six months if I enlisted front of two years ago I knew where I was gonna be headed I was gonna hit Vietnam I said thank you very much I did like two years psych duty and but the the gentleman who was the major kind of major to Lomax remember was real Knight West player he does know look I was doing my duty you know it wasn't avoiding the draft I was doing you know what my country s of me I was not making a career he knew that and so he was good about just the weight treated me he knew that I you know do your job you know and he was he was terrific so he helped me in a transition a little bit so that was kind of cool but I always knew I was 2 years I was to be able but then I got out I got this job at IBM which I talked about in the article yeah in the Tipsy and Here I am I've got two children at the time so we had one one and one on a wave so I'm working for IBM over a recruit I still have like two years active duty and I've got four years in reserve that's my obligation was six years so 63 to 69 from when I graduated to fulfilling my six years and they tried to they tried to get me back into service because they had four years and reserves so because they had those two MOS asymmetry in armor and so I basically joined a station hospital to Kip's in New York it for four years and you know so I was just look I did my tears hectic duty I've done by what I was asked to do I hadn't done it in like four years but they were trying to get painted back go back in with two kids yeah descending to Vietnam probably right oh yeah oh for sure so I mean if I join one of the units and in Poughkeepsie there was an armored or never true unit I was going over them back in so anyway you know they would this for at that time you know the build-up was just crazy they were they just to give you an example you just triggered a thought they were at I remember two incidents on my rifle range and this was at the end of basic training so these these guys have been there all draftees and a lot of didn't want to be there but they were there just Vietnam was getting a bad taste a lot of people's mouths and he makes 66-67 Maile I didn't happen but and two things happen at different times talk about how desperate the service was to get people in one one gentleman who was there qualifying this is David week 12 Ian Eppley he had epilepsy and a seizure um had a seizure on my range all of a sudden he he's flaring you know nobody got shot but I remember like was yesterday and he luckily one of the sergeant's because they'd come with their own instructors as well as like my group their own sergeants grabbed him to grab the rifle so that was one instance how'd he get that far with epilepsy should have been 4f and then another one that gentleman was having trouble qualifying we found out he had a glass eye I mean he should have been a cop that either you should have been you know you know hitting a typewriter doing something administrative not like how fabulous so there was a lot of that that was going out because they were they were desperate for bodies did you make any close friendships yeah I did and the close friendships I had oddly enough were with guys that two guys at Benning that they graduated from noir with a year after me in 1964 and so they lived on the post with us and so we became fast friends during a year I kept in touch a little bit they live in Connecticut now what my big friendships have been with the guys that I went through Norwood with there about till this day in fact last Friday what the Boston to have lunch with 15 over I mean we graduate 176 officers roughly half of them aren't there anymore so we're down to 80 but there's a core of our guys that went through this whole hazing this whole experience they all got the Commission they all went to Korea Germany in Vietnam or stateside and we we do to go to we go to our Christmas luncheon of Boston we go to hockey games we go to our reunions we go to people's weddings funerals so those are really I'll say my core friends or all the guys that I graduated from college with like a cool about the Commission together see you kept in touch for a lot no big thing yeah best friends I'm you know I'm gonna spend March in Florida with one of my best friends with a retired full colonel sure he's retired you know so yeah that's that's really you know if I look at the two years active duty excuse me the contacts are really the ones I made to my so did you join any veterans organizations - aye that's interesting I didn't you know after after six years to active for reserves you know I had you know I did my duty and so I didn't right away but here at the college only because I've got you know I retired at 19 what 19 2011 excuse me so I've got time on my hands so I a year and a half ago I started an organization here it at the noir Community College is part of lifetime learners which is adult education so we've got a group of 35 vets today I head up and we do various various activities one of them is what we're doing right now is to preserve our legacy and our stories we go on trips Coast Guard Academy submarine base etc etc and we're very active with the NCC the younger not the old dogs like myself with the younger Iraq Iraqi Afghanistan vets and there's about 60 of that are in the college itself not the adult education side of it and we we do quite a few things together we just had a we just had a panel discussion on Venom's issues as part of the Veterans Day celebration here at the college that I chaired and moderated they were part of that panel we've done a pets for vets which is a an organization out of Ridgefield Connecticut that matches veterans in trouble with PTSD for example with rescue animals cats and dogs and so we had them speak and we get the we had so we we paired up with the NCC veterans organization so yeah so I could the answer is four years I wasn't and no I am and I'm brain above so great so overall how do you think your service experiences affect your life as a whole well it's affected as I said when I you know we're at that little article it's it's it's effectively big-time because it basically you know you don't think of it you know at the time you know you're you're 22 I was twenty five by the town of twenty five way you know I've been you know leading as I said twenty people had all this equipment responsibility I've been standing up and make a presentation said twice a day in front of you know three four hundred people so was that whole that whole I'll say management leadership experience during those two years plus spent four years at Norwich obviously that basically shaped what I did for IBM I was in management leadership positions for most of my career so the answer is big time okay was there anything else you wanted to add that we haven't covered in this interview I think this I'm going over I am so I get asked as part of this we're gonna say something get asked to speak at the Norwalk Senior Center yeah what am I one of my committee guys is glad you wanna you know you want to talk about which I just talked about with you over the last 45 minutes or so about your service experience she said don't be about 15 people there you know just you know veterans a celebration this was a few weeks ago I said sure so I get there there's the mayor of Norwalk precedes me there's a hundred eighty people there's a senior serendipity seats singers fun so I basically gave a presentation and they covered I covered basically that article I read then then one of the things I wanted to give them was you know because we're all seniors you know and there's still a lot of almost all more veterans or you know family a veteran you know what can you do to help veterans because I think that's very fundamental no I have my little committee and I think I do my share now but you know one thing seniors have on there is they have time let them don't have the money but they have time so can you go volunteer your time to help something say I've done several things so and I give these as a couple of examples Commodore the bow club here on darienne so I went to the local VFW and I thought they had a PTSD group that met once a month they were from Fairfield County but they met there Darian so I got them to to spend a day on Long Island Sound with my some of my Boat Club members we took him out on the south of fish we got will you know we had him to lunch and kind of stuff it's not a big deal didn't cost any money no one Norwich was very active in the VA and Rocky Hill there was a gal who would basically get all these goodies to send to our troops whether it be books you know clothing etc and she needed people a package in segregate work so we spent a whole Saturday up there helping but you know killed there's a lot of stuff that can be done that this is really good you know as I said thanks time ago think money so I was just trying to get them up and the idea if you really you know concern about veterans there's other things you can do yeah I think that's a better okay great I'll I'd like to thank you for your service and also for the time to be interviewed today all right good Kayla

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Published: Mon Jan 28 2019