Interview with Earl C. Cree, a Vietnam Era Veteran. CCSU VHP

we're you drafted or did you enlist I was drafted I was born and raised in Chicago where I was drafted the date I was drafted I believe I got the notice in August of 68 expected I'd passed the physical not really I was born and raised a seven-day evidence and which meant I went as a as a CEO or conscientious objectors so the only track for me was was being a medic I went to the some office in downtown Chicago January 18th or 19th and had another physical and passed that and later on we boarded a plane from O'Hare Airport flew to st. Louis Missouri from there they pile us onto a bus and we drove for several hours to Fort Leonard Wood and probably arrived around 3 o'clock in the morning the first 8 4 9 10 days is so it was called reception center and that's where you get your uniform and you know indoctrination and two more tests things of that nature the interesting aspect of that is as you're get your uniforms and labels for your boots and everything I didn't notice it right away but when they would call roll call at our little billet they had to call it Jones and Sawicki or Jones and Smith and then they would say Earl and I could quite understand I just said well yeah I'm here yo and this went on for a couple days and I thought well maybe they like me but then I found out that I was really no longer Earl Cree I was known to the military is Carl see Earl and it took me three days to get my name back to Earl sikri which meant I had to go back get new labels for my uniforms new boots new everything so it was kind of interesting beginning actually probably took some of the tension away because that that was pretty pretty funny that they would make a monumental mistake like that but that's what my first few days were like after a week or so of orientation they borders on a plant and I flew to San Antonio and from there I went to Fort Sam Houston which at the time was the primary medical training center for the army and after what they would call the zero week in other words there wasn't anything to do other than chores and cleanup and stuff like that because he had to wait so I could fill up enough troop stuff that have a class then I went through eight weeks of training following that yes basic was actually basic and medical training so basic is pretty much more indoctrination more exercises more running more you know this an app medical training is pretty basic you know how to give shots you see a lot of movies like childbirth movies wounds and doctor you know all together it's another eight weeks did you have any memorable experiences not really oh I've benefited from the fact I was 25 when I got drafted I had finished you know my studies and compared to most the folks or guys I wrote with I was lot older and somewhat not overly impressed with the regiment of being trained or the harassment from the cadre and I didn't but you know I knew I'm just passing through it and I just allowed to make the best of it and I kind of looked at a lot of abuse bemusement I can I start greeting kadriye how well he could call it the cadence or which would go mental the worst story so it was you know I'm just sliding through I mean I took it seriously the medical training because I figured I might have to use these things someday but it was just you know it was kind of a blur I was yeah I was connected and I wasn't gonna get in trouble I wasn't going to tell staredown repudiate a thing I've been tied just like I would say is this gonna have just kind of you know absorbing what I had to and try not to observe all the in harassment all the things that a lot of the other folks were very young impressionable scared I was concerned it wasn't scared I wasn't scared yet that came later but I had a lot of some friends from my college which I went to Union College in Lincoln Nebraska so I wound up with you know three or four they knew from college days so I was able to you know to bond a little bit but it was a interesting time you get to you get to meet people from all over the country and look at March behind me of us from New York City and when we had a break and everything I'd ask I'd never been to New York I'd asked about all kinds of things in New York nowhere to go and listen that so we hung out some but I was really looking for information about other places in the country and as a little sidebar to that after I got out of the army I was working for Aetna Life and cares in New York and I was coming out of a drugstore in Queens New York and here comes two people jogging and they passed me and they stopped and one guy had very long hair he says Earl Creed and it was the same guy that had been marched behind me all the time in medical training so turned out that we spell that time the other way I was working in New York but how often would you find something like that he would it was even from Queens is from Brooklyn so I know it was young I didn't even recognize him because it looks a lot different for me now it wasn't so much the instructors as the cadre that but you know move your from place to place and make you exercise and stuff like that and and basic training our drill sergeant was a guy named Simmons I can't remember his first name but he was a very he was pure army we looked we dressed I mean he was just the epitome of a drill instructor like you seen in movies and I kind of liked him because he had a new unique way of conveying how he felt about you and in medical training the guy that was our cadre was great well he had trouble with this foot whose name Bobby Wilson and he could lose his temper and go into all kinds of paroxysms of screaming and shouting it you know I once thought was kind of funny you know I never laughed if y'all wouldn't ever do that but I wasn't really there to make this a career I'm just trying to get through about getting you know anything broke from there after we all stood in formation and everybody got their orders everybody's you know holding their breath and somehow I got shipped to Fort Dix so I really thought well this is this is good it means I probably you know how a chance to go on to Germany or someplace he also on East Coast had turned out to be a bad assumption by the way but I was sent to Fort Dix and probably June of 68 and I stayed there till December of 68 I wound up being a psychiatric technician in a in the hospital it was better than some of the wards that I saw I talked I talked the colonel into being assigned to that tone I was a you know a sociology major I really liked to see some of this so it may be a 90 92 F I don't overdose you probably know these things so they sent me to the psych ward and they had an open ward and they had a locked ward and it was it was okay I mean I was interesting it was you know a lot of trauma at times you know it was some of the you know inmates but I thought be far better than you know putting press theses on legs or stuffing entrails back at stomachs you know open sucking cheston's is like that our Ward Wilson army had two wings and every most every night there would be a flight in from Vietnam where people have really messed up and gone and this was very but it really was gripping to see condition of some of these folks you know still and their battle fatigues found directly from Vietnam he could smell Vietnam I didn't realize it till I went over there was this Vietnam had a particular bad smell and so you just got in country so I've watched him unload and taken to different places you know I was the boy I'm glad I'm not 100 glad about one of them and glad I not be working with him because I didn't think I was up to that so it was pretty good it was not bad I'd tell like you know a little side trips to see Barry hopper see Seabury Heights or not see Barry but seaside in Atlantic City I went to New York several times what the Philadelphia in the weekends he worked work shift work you know all different shifts and lived in a barracks and you know I thought this is you know if I stay here the rest of the like my term would be okay I found out December used to call of levees levee would come down for people they meet in different places in my levee said you know Republic of Vietnam so went home for you know two weeks then yeah was on my way I was a little surprised I was disappointed I thought I'd be you know East Coast either sent me to Germany but you know that's so they had a huge levee and I didn't like it I was worried I was concerned I don't know what I know the full range of what medics met in the army you know and I was hoping I wouldn't be at the looked here but I was I was nervous upset I think my folks were even more upset my mom especially and you know I just Jesus why I raise kids haven't killed waters you know that type of thing so I had a deal with a lot of that but I said don't worry I'll up eel okay I know how to get along so I was that was I was surprised and you know pretty nervous apprehensive with what was coming down something like that two or three weeks I took a flight from Chicago to Seattle or no it was Oakland I think it was Travis Air Force Base which was a departing air base for Vietnam and he stayed there for a day or so and then you know we all packed onto a dc-8 flying tiger orleans and flew to benoit airport and vietnam well we got in at night so you couldn't see much show and it made us you know get out of playing real quickly and get into these little buses the most interesting thing I found they march all the way around and you know your and what these buildings you know and when they tell you to stop I looked down here's my records I thought how could they do this this this is premium 8c I mean you know 50 people going to those building walk around stop oh so first thing I see is first field forces of that what so that was the first thing really bothered me what did first field forces a no field I could understand and that really resonated and that what is this going to be so you spent a little time there and then I found out I was gonna be in uh I think was the 21st something but I wound up in as a medic any in the 7th battalion 15 artillery and it was we were some some bail group but I was saying to a base called LZ uplift which was before or less it was north of Queenie on and south of long song and what they called it it was two core it was the coastal highlands and LZ uplift was a command it was the commanding base for about three actual battalions that you know fired guns it was a service you know or I took care of things the communications it was worth what they call a fire Direction control was at and we had about four or five medics station to medical coach so the good news was if you have to be a field medic heavy artillery is good infantry not good that was good news bad news the good news was it we didn't I wouldn't on the field we were very stationary and I was in the you know in a bit a firing battery : once bad news they know where you're at so you're always having you know and your perimeter we had some mortars and stuff like that and so it was better than some of the other alternatives it wasn't working at a hospital it wasn't working Saigon you're out in the middle of nowhere but and so you know you'd have like sick call you know troops would be sick a lot of you know it caught some infectious disease from some of the indigenous populace so I got to be pretty good at testing for that and I worked with a doctorate name was dr. Gama and I became proficient at giving shots Det dr. Gamel would only allow me to give him his shots when you were two so yeah so that what it required other than the sick call and working on people there's a couple of things I used to go out to all the battalion's to give shots when their records we had all their records so we knew when the typhus or a booster or whatever so I did a lot of that and actually but two other things we write off our our base was before I ever got there didn't hit a they put in with a Club Med cap station which was you know medical assistance to civilians and so one of us a rotating basis would meet with you know maintain that take care of the local indigenous populace which was kind of sad because they would strangle and in the morning and as a result of fires or being wounded by y'all friendlies non friendlies and so you wind up patching them up where they did your own troops so I got pretty good at stitching people and stuff like that [Music] you know I don't I I think the people that needed help we're grateful a lot of people just hung around and tried to sell us cokes or sandwiches and other things that don't over priced and probably didn't really care for us you know I used to tease them and they you know you know get ticked off at me because of UT's know stuff and the last thing we used to go out on patrols to villages to provide you know medical services and we did a several as that of those always had to have you know escort with us and the last couple we could tell these people either do something or didn't like us or there is something that you know we didn't know about and you just tell it was it was a very uneasy time so we stopped doing it because we found out some place where you're going I took a picture of an ancient a water really made out of bamboo you know to get water and he said don't stand too close to it because yeah it's a free fighter so I'm ready to cross the river so we stopped doing that but I used to drive the Jeep for the doctor when we go places you know for supplies and whatever but it was pretty boring and I think happy I injured myself I was in hospital for three weeks for a Anna a varicocele phlebitis a very strategic place like you know in your grip groin so I was laid up for two or three weeks with that well it's okay not many people have those things and no I wouldn't wish it on anybody either going home the want to aside while I was waiting to be shipped up to her LZ uplift I was in I was up it was on base outside of Phuket Air Force before it was another service battalion and on Christmas Day 1969 I'm sitting in a field about 10,000 other GIS and Brighton firms was Bob Hope and I you know it for all the years watching it you know ever seen on TV I says what a time work this is you know so that was one of the first things I saw I got in-country you know on Christmas Day that Wow what am i doing you and uh it was kind of boring you know you worked every day you're gonna have day off on Sunday boys that have sick call every day and you know for a variety of things and never sorry thing real bad you know we're you know global things we did have called bill that died you know they brought in in their bag because they're gonna be you know flown out to Cameron they did stuff like that but I often and it was just boring it was hot and the only significant thing that happened to me I had to replace a medic in a end Bravo battalion which is way out in the boonies and this was during the monsoon season and the only way you could get there or only way you could get out at what time I was finished my tour it was by helicopter because the roads were impassable and even when he drove out there it was just you know you go out so slowly as Bucky looking around you know but so my last couple months were of this firing battery and which was it was okay I was and then I was you know I was the dock for the battalion and on occasion when some other medic was on vacation I'd go to another bad region you know you know sub for the person while he was on R&R so got to see a little bit yes yes except except for last couple months I think captain of our service bag didn't like me for number of reasons but they finally get even he's shipped me up for a while we would sleep right in the I don't how big it was you know 20 by 20 and then they hit another section we had bunk beds only had enough when there was enough to sleep with some bunk beds right on those aged station the captain had his own little office and living quarters right behind us in the same building later on they built a Riddler bunker for everybody and we moved you know some of us moved over there but if you're on one call you to stay in the aid station but you know I was wasn't you know the Hyatt it was pretty pretty basic you know footlocker and a bunk and that was about it no running water no no no no toilets that you would recognize or want to recognize and food was not bad we I don't know why but we always we we had a big flat screen outside of the mess hall where we watched movies when they would send us movies so you know there was at night but it was pretty boring but compared to being a field medic in free group I'll take boring well you're always up by six o'clock because the switchboard will cause you no time to get up and whoever's on duty would stand in the the 8th station arrest we go to breakfast come back and be a a the ambulance we used to call the war wagon that that they always want us to work on I don't know why but we always had to work on it we have Jeep it take care of that and our first start never liked our sandbag around our age station so we're constantly you know reinforcing it you know that's everything we went out a few times drove it it was a really a clunky thing and it was four-wheel drive it we got quite somewhere and we lost one of the drives you know you're the front wheel the rear wheel you know so it was only got like a two wheel it broke the rods or whatever you know this thing had probably seen looking at date it was manufactured probably been in Korea a long time it was that old but we never used it - we never hold anything we used to bring supplies stuff like that yes I was sent to can't remember the name of the it was it was the Bravo firing whirly had both 8 inch and 175 artillery pieces and that's where I was stationed I was I was the Dyke I was the medic there was no doctor you know anybody could hurt her yeah a shot or a scratch or you know feeling well or you know whatever I'd make sure they took father their pills you know one from real area one for something else but it was probably more bored well everything keys on when you have a firing mission and the only critical ones were at night and if they were firing over my azimuth or my hooch some way from the artillery come down sit there store to store everything because it's going to be firing right over yeah and when they fired stuff with flight dust and bottles and stuff at you know jump up in the air so they always woke me up when it was so I had a fire barrier that I knew it would be or my coach I don't think most people have any conception how loud these guns were I mean it's just you know I go to fireworks now and it says you folks don't know what load is it really kind of took some of the Tang out of you're going to fireworks display kinda like I'm but you know these the fire low nation rounds over our LLC uplift when we thought we hit you know people on the wire and they you know fire fire from you know eight nine miles away and it'd be like flares with parachutes it would just light up the whole area so and I understand every night one of the firing batteries had our perimeter locked in because we needed to use it so it was always comforting to know so it's kind of scary at the same time but I came out unscathed all parts working a couple scares but you know we're just lucky we had a firing barrier up the road from us and another medic one on R&R so I went up there it was like you know maybe a mile away and a bunch of just standing around it you know almost at dusk and you hear the you know there's a special sound of mortar when it's launched and when it hits and the first sergeant said let's get out of here go up to the command bunker I have to go back to the medical hooch there and pick up my medical bag you never know what your any so we're all running up the road goes this command looker there mate you know these bunkers army of barrels was sand in them you know and the entrance is like a double it's like a double entrance there's barrels go here and then you walk around well he was pushing me up there when we just got inside with three more hit and hit a jeep and he you feel the sand and stuff coming through but that was it but as well as close as I read down to know nothing to anyone a serious injury not really no I would up the battle wounds to civilians but not to you know it was from like running a you know an aid station you know you know it could've been on campus here but uh you know like you I mean it's no surprise you a lot of lava troops wound up what they called gonococcal you're gonna conk oh your wreath right us and required you know to ship a shot of penicillin and for benefit have support to clear up so I did a lot of that I was picked up by a helicopter went to Cameron Bay and flew on another dc-8 flying tiger and missed the first one which really was I went to a happy about that and just because of loading requirements and number of people and from there flew from Cameron beta code Air Force Base in Japan and from there to Fort Lewis Washington I think it was McChord Air Force Base yeah just stuck yeah we stopped to refuel and Japan and then it was not stopped for like 14 15 hours all the way to you know what Washington and there you surrender your clothes get your new uniform get your steak dinner and and again this was right around Christmas time and they let all the training battalions out and then you have to get signed here it's on you to get home so took us out to the airport and the place is my up with GI he's trying to get home and so I thought well I'm not going to wait in line I I called the United Airlines and found out there was a first-class seat you know leaving at midnight or so and so I'm sitting in a chair gonna like this hair boys waiting in line but it was the benefit of being a little bit older you know so Grimes in Chicago I think like 5:30 6 o'clock in the morning that my folks that was it well it's really a two-stage process you don't really feel that you're gonna be going home till you go past the six-month mark and when you hit the 30-day mark and you're then you feel like you're short you know and from that point for you you're nervous as hell that you know I got it makes take clean up trouble don't get hit so you know it's it's a it's a buildup of pressure and when you fry you know get out laying in the states there boys screaming and hollering and you get home they're just like it's look I sat with my folks that morning and afternoon I finally went to bed around you know six seven o'clock that afternoon I didn't wake up to like 6 o'clock the next date which was a Sunday yeah and ever I don't know if it's on here but I have a picture me Africa back I did look good and just young circles and everything else but that was over now it was good to see my folks I could see that the the stain of misery that my mom was going through she just looked like 10 years older great very quiet pick me up at O'Hare Airport outside of Chicago Joe home at breakfast and I went to church this was a Saturday I was still a nominal set to have us and that was it I mean there wasn't like you have to keep buying well a lot of folks weren't too thrilled it we were in the war a lot of folks weren't thrilled that you were part of it and a lot of folks didn't didn't like the gi's no no too early in the morning they don't go out to leisure but you know what my first year home you would still see caskets go by with an American flag I got on music oh there goes somebody else y'all but you know there was a mood you know we were all baby killers and you know I don't think we you know we got the I don't think we can get that thanks a lot you know thanks for your service I think it's far different now now for Iraq and Afghanistan but then you know I was a ugly war you know how'd you get stuck with that ugly working on so there wasn't anybody you know having parties for me or parties for a my associates it got back we all just wanted to go shut the book and move on I wanted to get a job when three months of working for it like casually and you know it was over the only thing I never took me a long time to get rid of I had a tightness like in my shoulders young like this and I don't know if it ever really all the way came back I always was had that tense in fact uh when I got married in 84 it wasn't to what six months later that and it was my wife scrambling even knew I was in the interview or even in Vietnam I just know summer never just you know talked about I didn't stay in touch with anybody and like I said before I knew I was just passing through you know put a mental overdrive and if you get through it great but you know no one wants to do it but you know what struck me or I was waiting to go home I was out walking on the facilities at camera and bay and I went to edge the basin I looked over it was you know Sun on Sunset and I see this the stack of stuff you're like tall is this building and I got a little closer those helicopters and planes and tanks and jeeps that have been blowing up and it just as far as I could see either boy that's this is what it's costing us you know you just see the results of such waste and it was unbelievable you know it's just broken pieces everything you think of I thought wow and we lost thousands of helicopters you know they're in the war but but was i proud to be in it I guess you know but did I want to go no but you know I wasn't gonna fight it I wasn't going to go to Canada I wasn't gonna you know do anything like that yeah take off a toe or I just I just have you know a hope that I would get through it one piece and I did well a few not not a lot like I said heavy artillery is dispensing the problem usually not taking its it's really yeah it takes a while to get guns sited in and you know surveyed and you know set so that we accurate and they're pretty well protected but did we have any buy killed we had a drowning somebody in the river to drown but you know we weren't you know in the mass casualty you know 69 they're still you know they're still killing 150 a week like look Rachel Mel of Honor no Silver Star Bronze Star no yes they you know the things you get for being overseas that type of thing sure well my primary goal was to keep my folks from you know climbing the walls so I prayed I would send them sanitized letters I can't move like when I was in the last two or three months dating no I was up the boondocks acted like you know I wasn't didn't want him to worry but yeah I talk about everyday things and the snap the pictures I took and I can't find that I would send up all my pictures back and I would send them an annotated you know what was on every picture I can't find that and I was like here we are that I still have it up here but it was I had it all written down so they could watch the output but they were all slides but I stayed in touch with a number of other people that went to school with them to snap and sometimes they would write back sometimes they wouldn't okay wasn't what it called booth cuisine a tray that thing yeah like a metal tray and it wasn't like you see could I have a site cut of the please yes not really I had some real issues what I call the lifers you know the people in for their career of resurgence I never tried to I just you know I just thought I felt sorry for him as always they weren't making a money back then we very opinionated about know I took a lot of guff because I didn't carry a weapon but you know I knew that was going to happen soon resting though we promote to the firing range and I'd go out with them I was the only one that could hit anything and you know when we going on trips we did the driver doctor and then perhaps me or some whales Don backseat we always had a machine gun mounted so I made up my mind notwithstanding my status I was gonna let them die if you know I was the one I knew how to fire everything so I figured of one of them lost their weapon or whatever that was the last one I'd still have something so that was my own decision that you know I've never had to do that but I know how to use a law no there was no good luck ERISA well it was a bifurcated way the the draftees would get high every night the lifers would get drunk every night it was pretty much the pattern not you know when I say the analysts they up not everybody but up you know I never I honestly say I never had a beer or a mixed drink when I was at and Vietnam it was Julia dick send the Adventist thing yeah you know swirling well my head never smoked I never had a J or anything I drink a lot of soda no soda it was there a soda and beer it was the same price 10 cents it can I mean so if you want drink a lot of beer really good but uh you know there's a there's a pay off there was officer's club where I'm sure they all got wrecked and then there was you know the sergeants they had another place and they're all gone you know bite a little bit night now we're at you know we are overrun we'd have been in awful shape that was it no I saw my first four days in country I saw in a field outside of Phuket Air Force Base well it was pretty good I'm Rios little lane bending thinking you know for watching us on TV for a thousand years that I'm sitting with these guys are all of the different things and I kept they had the gold diggers they had miss of Miss Universe I think he may have had an Margaret you know it was down and Bob Hope shows were whatever you saw on t were heavily edited because there are some things that no well you never make it at TV but that was bought yet I went on R&R to Singapore for a week which was okay I don't think we need to go into all the details of that well it's pretty personal but the first sergeant of our LZ uplift was a real-life firt and ye he want us you know do this to the hood sure you're always sandbagging sandbagging it never anything like so I probably got tired of one day and I said you know I'm gonna check out his his medical file and sure enough he was way overdue on all the shots so I call it a time I think you gotta come over so I gave him everything and I I gave it to him his right arm so we're standing in formation for retreat when we strike the colors I says watch this he couldn't raise this so it was one of my little ways of getting you know no but using the rules I got even [Music] yeah I don't think so there might have been but if they are pranks they'd be pretty narrow and focus you know because you know anything bigger that you know might you know husband issues [Music] I liked our doctor he was a captain captain gala Gemma I got along with him pretty well most of the medics and my group were and drafted somewhere National Guard and very young impressionable that bring the tour so I didn't really care for it that much there so there was a number of as you know during that time a lot of college kids that got drinking you know drafted and there was a there was a bunch of people from that I hung out a little bit but you know just because they you know he had something to say what the the medics you know they were I'm you look I didn't did not not get along with I just didn't go out my way to get along those the rest of the officers you know you know Errol cake that really I think the journal was what he sent my folks think about that way mmm-hmm well here's a little interesting sidebar I went to Union College I finished all my class studies in 67 but I came up two hours short due to my own self-destructive habits and I needed to pass or one more course graduate so I took a course in abnormal psychology pretty good place to take it by correspondence when I was in Vietnam took the midterm test Proctor's by the captain and took the final tests when I got back like a January of 70 and past that and I graduated in absentia in 1970 that's a good question I'm not sure I don't think so hello I'm not really sure I stayed with a join at the 1970 worked in New York Atlanta Fran I got transferred to Hartford and I left in 1986 shortly after well almost looked on Friday I start another job at Monday work before coming to a programming resources company you know Vietnam was well I think the first war the government got involved with that had no front lines you know world war ii world war one Korea even hit frontlines Vietnam there was no front lines it was it was you know hot spot here here there so it was a tough war to fight I mean you just go ahead and start from you know I Corps just march all the way up to you know North Vietnam and so I don't think you ever figure out how to do it and maybe we shutting up because you know you've ever been to Washington see the Vietnam Memorial it's striking so there are what fifty six thousand died probably hundreds a thousand injured or you know lost limbs and stuff like that for what you know and I think it was just the waste of time guess what that's every you know they're they're reunited anyway it was like you know they broke up Bell Telephone too big guess what most we're all back together again for what yeah all that money to you know I just you know I don't thought it I don't think was fought very well you know I've read a lot of books about it you know you know Lyndon Johnson and his pajamas and his bedroom was plot and place at the bottom you know I mean it what kind of deals that yeah first we would love so really and figure it out but I mean I just it just micromanage everything yeah I wake up it up victories with our hands alone but you know war is their natural you know if there's a romantic notions about the whoever thinks about it like our current crop of neo-cons that want to go everywhere yeah you know there's a price to pay now we've already made one mistake go into Iraq for no reason and we might be making another one but not yeah you have to have a clear-cut mission you know I don't think there's Wars like we had like World War One World War two we're gonna clear you know winner maybe Germany did win there's the they reunited then there they're the most prosperous country in Europe now thanks to us but I just you know I remember uh it's all my folks I hope this is the last time we get it to warn these places we can't name well guess what Bert bad word you know same super young and just said no no I do get a quarterly letter from the patek seventh infantry vote somebody tell you when I was in and I look it over and they have reunions but you know for what I have it get together and celebrate our victory I don't think so most people don't know I was a in the army or be it was in Vietnam it's not it's nothing I really talked about there's a guy that belongs to our country club and my last couple months I was at this firing battery with him you know and hadn't heard from then I joined that so this missiny it's got to be him you know so I first approached you mayor your remember we were at about this time of the aerial yeah so many years ago nothing I about a year later I person about the same thing nothing I said well that's the last time I'll ever mention it to him I don't know if he had trial or something gonna work out but he definitely did not want to discuss it so I never pushed it again we're still friends we played golf together but now was on topic to be discussed at once thought if I can get through Vietnam I'll never have to worry about anything ever again nothing to ever scare me I won't you know worry about anything well that's not true either you know there's nothing like going nothing nothing like going out says called where they don't like you it's almost a pen it has been in Vietnam it you're better prepared for it but you know if still Terrence don't have other things happen in your life but it turns out it was an empty bye that's about it for me I think you know but went in came out came up one piece and not saying I'm glad for the opportunity I don't know if I'm proud of the opportunity I served you know it's you know what's about yet and by pleasure

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