Interview with an original Tesla Roadster Owner: the good, the bad, and the downright weird!

so recently a friend put me in touch with jordan who is a purchaser of one of the original tesla roadsters which is pretty darn cool so jordan was kind enough to agree to interview me and we're going to talk about the roadster his experiences with it the good the bad how he bought it how he sold it it all sounds quite interesting so let's have some fun and have a chat so hi jordan how are you good john how are you i'm i'm fantastic i'm having a good day it's a it's a big time for tesla right now with their ai day coming up so very exciting news but um but let's take a little walk down history lane so right before we started recording i was going to ask you how you purchased the car the original roadster and when you purchased it and i guess i had assumed you bought it from tesla but it sounds like that was a little more of a story than i thought so go for it you know everything has a story right no we actually bought it on ebay so the story is i back in 2009 or thereabouts i had gone out to california and we have family that lives out in the san jose area and i had read all about tesla at the time and i thought this was a really cool thing and i found out while we were there that they actually have the dealership right there in in san jose so i grabbed my two brothers in law and off we went to test drive the car and i was completely blown away on various various levels first of all um you know i just had to sign a little waiver and they gave us the keys and they said go have fun you know i'm like wow this is you know 100 000 car and they're just saying you know go knock yourselves out right right and so um off we went and it was such a trip to driving that car um because it was not i mean the speed was fun the acceleration was fun i've learned to you know really appreciate that now but um at the time i was really struck by how quiet it was i mean there was just wind noise basically when there was this cool wine when the motor spun up it sounded like a jet engine um it was uh it was a real blast it was it was and that sold me i said we i got to get one you know i don't know if i can afford a hundred thousand dollars on it for a car right now but um i got to get one of these things so i think like to put this in perspective so this was 2009 right about this yes yeah so i mean this is prior to the model s this is prior to most people having heard of tesla i mean i've heard of it but vaguely um you know and and that quietness of the car i mean this is something you have a model x also right is that correct correct yeah so and i have a model y so you know it's kind of more of a common thing now you drive it and you're like oh wow it's so quiet you hear that little line as it spins up and everything but this is all very very not something that anyone is used to at this time i think what the only other real ev car that had been out there was the the gm ev1 which you know was not the same thing as the roadster but not even a little yeah yeah yeah so go ahead so you test drove it and so i test drove it fell in love with the car and then i started poking around on the on the on the internet you know and then uh a while ago went by and um i i saw oh i know what happened so a while went by and actually was contacted by one of the the salesman from california and he said i saw that you were you were poking around on one of the news groups and i'm like how the hell this guy's like stalking me or something right and he said uh we we're delivering or either they're bringing a car nearby and they asked if you know they wanted to bring it by for my wife to drive because at the time the only dealership in town and i mean like in town like southeast we live in florida right the nearest dealership i think was with was dania beach which which is near miami just north of miami the nearest one from that was in like virginia there was like nothing around so they were delivering it from i think dania beach to another owner and they they said if you want to drive it if you want to give your wife a chance to drive it you know that would be great so i said sure why not so they brought it by my wife drove it and she really loved the car she didn't like the price tag and i let my son drive at the same time and and we were both kind of you know this really secured my you know my devotion to to getting one right um so i kept looking and looking and and a while went by and i found this car the one that we bought finally uh on ebay and it was a brilliant yellow which that's kind of my color and uh at least for sports cars anyway right and for various reasons actually because um i was thinking mostly for safety because uh you know having a yellow car it makes it a a harder target to have an excuse for hitting right and of course sports cars have low you know they're relatively low so it's hard to see them generally this what you have to remember this car is extraordinarily low um i i've never actually seen one in person so you know it's like pretty cool that you experience when i so one of the reasons i i said i would i'll keep the car until i can't get into it anymore i'm 60 now so um but so i i actually took it to an event at one point and and i was a a concourse for they were raising was a charity so there was a lot of strange cars there and this thing the most exotic the most crazy thing that hit me was as i was driving across the grass i could hear the grass on the bottom of the car and this was on a wand that was well maintained anyway so um i digress so we bought the car so so i saw the car on ebay and i contacted the the seller and it was a it was a large company in in california they basically resold high-end cars and um i i asked them a little bit about the car and um i asked if they had any kind of um it was so this was 2011 and it was a 2010 car and um i asked if they had done any kind of um you know maintenance checks or anything like that because i knew those teslas that the roadsters required a yearly maintenance on them new ones are require anything right um and i can go into more detail about what was involved with that um but anyway so i said you know i really appreciate it if we get you know the the battery energy check on it and you know just a standard checkup and they said sure no problem so they sent it off the tesla tesla did their thing and brought it back in and they shared with me the the results and they were all you know as expected they were they were great right so then i started negotiate with the guy and he got offended that that i was now negotiating with the car dealer you know can you imagine and um so he actually threatened to sue me because i you know because we couldn't come to an agreement on the price he threatened to sue me because i he i had asked him to get the you know the the paperwork for the from tesla on the car so i told him to go pound sand and let it go right so i kept i still kept looking and the same car appeared again on ebay down in san jose or in us in san diego so um obviously they had traded you know the car from san jose down to san diego so this guy i talked to and he's a little bit more need and admitable to a negotiation and we want to buy the car from him we shipped the car from san diego to to where we live in florida and um no no issues at all and and it was great we had a fantastic time with the car wow so so you purchased it in 2011 and if i'm correct you sold it was it 2019 or 2020 when you sold it we sold it in 2018. 2018. okay right so still you have it for seven years so that's why actually no i think it was closer to actually i don't remember this is pretty bad it would have been like late 2018 early 2019. okay so you got the car shipped to you and right what i mean so so test driving something is is fun because you do it right like you know 15 or 20 minutes but actually owning it what sort of revelations popped up over the first couple so the coolest thing that ever happened to me and this is still it's like a zen moment i came to a stoplight and there was something prickling on the back of my like there was something wrong right and i looked around and there was a prius on one side of me and i think you know another prius on the other so basically there was no sound you know here i'm surrounded by cars and there's no noise and it was like wow this is this is what the future is like you know the future is quieter it is it really is um right shortly after i had the car um i was driving down us-1 which kind of runs up the whole eastern seaboard in in our area in melbourne and um this i came to a stoplight and this guy pulls up next to me and in a some kind of souped-up something and it was it was it was really a souped up so i mean like it had the large slicks in the back and had a big air scoop in the front you know and he starts revving his engine right so i looked over at the passenger and i said i'm sorry i can't do that i said but i tell you what i'll give you i'll give you a head start so when the light turned green i mean this is like you know it should not have been done right when the light turned green this guy took off and there was smoke everywhere i mean it was just unbelievable how much smoke this guy put down and when his bumper cleared mine my when his rear bumper cleared my front bumper i launched you know when i hit the speed limit i waved as he went by and that was just up to the speed limit so that's the speed limit right i mean remarkable and this guy i'm sure was blown away you know because he saw that i gave him a good head start to the launch and i think he probably did have a bad launch here because his tires didn't have any traction right right but as you know teslas have complete traction control so and i think that's one of the things that's also kind of revelatory about teslas is that they don't spin out right right right even with a good modern car if it's kind of tuned more for racing it's going to spin out if you're not really careful on how you apply the accelerator so right having said that though the car definitely was light in the front and it tended to oversteer so i actually got myself in two different situations where i scared myself that okay i should not have been there you know and i wound up you know going further than i should have in a term gotcha so so as far as you're concerned like it was really good in a straightaway but did not handle nearly as well in uh correct although i've seen videos of them of erasing a or one of them racing like a ferrari around an oval and it just smoked the roar so the ferrari would sort of catch up in the corners and then that and the tesla would take off in the price right away so that's interesting because that that actually indicates of course that tesla had to learn battery placement because of course since there's no engine in the front it's going to be significantly lighter so you have to kind of adjust the the weight well remember also that it was built on a lotus chassis they didn't build the chassis so they bought rolling stock from lotus and there's actually a story behind that too so they were looking for you know a suitable chatty chassis manufacturer and they went to lotus because lotus made very good lightweight automobiles and um they looked at their factory and the way they built their cars is people would they were built to order mostly and they would start to manufacture the car and they would take yellow stickies or they would take the order and stick it someplace on the car to the chassis to the steering wheel or something and if it ever got lost if it fell off they had no idea what they were building so tesla said no no no we got to fix this it was literally it was like it was like post-it notes like i don't know i mean i'm exaggerating but it was probably i'm assuming it was the order right so it was like right color you know size of the ends whatever all that stuff you know stick it on the car someplace and it would follow the car as it went through because it was all hand built right and um and the fiberglass the panels i believe were all fiberglass on the on the lotus on the on the tesla they were all carbon carbon fiber oh interesting and so the interesting thing is so that the lotus came in at like 2 800 pounds something in that range which is remarkably light for that car right i think important it came in at 2 000 pounds for the for the loaders and then so tesla then would take off the the fiberglass body they take out the motor they take out the the transmission they take out the exhaust system the fuel tank and all the other paraphernalia it's associated with the ice engine and they replaced it with a motor and battery and the weight went up 800 pounds so the roaster was 2800 pounds and the the at least was um 2 000. wow but still that's a pretty light battery it is vehicle yeah right oh yeah it is so but remember that it only had a 2500 a 25 250 mile range right right so it wasn't like the new ones you know where you're getting 300 300 you know plus range on it so uh well it's also a sports car so it's not like one of those things you're going to take on an eight-hour road trip it'll be a little uncomfortable probably it was very uncomfortable it was a definitely a rough ride yeah so so the joke was i could roll over a dime and tell if you was it was facing up or down so we actually we drove it down to um to miami to the service center um right it was in a way a bit of a mistake just because we didn't know what the hell my son and i took it down we didn't know what we were doing right that was my son's first speeding ticket and uh but and the cop it was so funny the cop comes up and goes i love these things but here's your ticket it's fun to get an actual like i guess it wasn't his first ticket for a uh for a tesla in that case i guess because we were getting closer to the factory so you know or the to the center in the repair center so you know that was that was that but it was interesting because we had no experience with range anxiety and and um we actually did experience as only time a very experienced range anxiety was with that car so we were approaching the the service center and and it was in the yellow you know because there's green yellow and red right and i think it's pretty much common on the new cars now too right and um and we were getting into the yellow and i think when it hit red i called them i said hey what am i gonna do and they said oh don't worry about it they said you got point because i told them where we were and we were within a few miles of them and they said you got plenty of plenty of mileage worst case you know we'll come and pick you up right so um and sure enough we had plenty of we rolled right in and they were able to to charge it while they were servicing it right and uh so we drove it back again so it so the whole time that they serviced it was on charge and then we so had a full charge when we got back we just we just drove it drove it home pretty cool speaking of that what kind of charging you know nowadays they charge pretty fast but i imagine this probably was not a very quick charging it wasn't terrible i really didn't notice to be honest because i didn't i didn't drive it at one point it was sort of a daily driver but you know i mean i mean i wasn't engineer retired now i was an engineer and i would drive it wasn't it was like a couple miles to work so i would drive it to work and and um and then drive it home again and and the that car had terrible parasitic battery loss so there was there was stuff that was draining that car that they had no idea what it was and uh it was just assumed that you know you're going to lose you know over the course of like an hour you may lose like three or four miles range oh gosh it was really bad you know you know you think it's it was only a decade ago but there's so much advances that they've done since then right this absolutely uh in terms of battery did you did you notice a significant range loss over the seven years or so that you owned it not a significant no not not at all um uh because i i think we put like 25 000 miles on it or so in that time i it definitely was not a daily driver um sorry it really you know i didn't put anything and i was just reading actually an article they were saying that um that they noticed the degradation occurred on the roadsters that that um it was because of mileage not because of age okay so you could own it for 10 years and if you only drove it 20 000 miles it was going to be fine it would be absolutely fine you'd never notice it and even our cars now that the s and the x they're the lim the loss on those batteries is is in i wouldn't say it's insignificant but it's almost inconsequential right yeah i noticed that with the model y and it was as expected you know after the first month that it dropped about maybe 10 miles of range but then it's leveled out and i think right maybe you know it was 326 when we first bought it now it's like somewhere around 3 14 or 15 so and it's really just stabilized at that it's not dropping anymore so well how many miles do you have on your uh i think about thirteen thousand so it's not uh yet so yeah it's not like we put a ridiculous amount of miles on it yet but so we drive our ex a lot and i've got over 40 000 on ours and i mean we've taken to california and back it's been to new york and back and we've actually picked it up in in texas which is another story if you want to hear that one right so did you buy that one used also then i bought it new from it was it was considered a new car from tesla it was a loaner car because they they took it they take a big hit you know for it for um for miles on it right and this this car had i think seven my 7 000 miles or something on it when i bought it um and it was worth the the the the the um the drive and actually the flight to get there and negotiate but we didn't really negotiate there's no you don't negotiate yeah you don't negotiate with tesla they just which i actually my experience buying a tesla has convinced me never to go to an auto dealership again oh yeah absolutely yeah yeah absolutely it's like if you don't like the price don't buy the car i mean that's basically what it is because they're not have you seen recently i saw that toyota and honda another because of the chip shortage and the supply chain shortage dealerships are actually marking up cars ten thousand dollars per car right now just as a market i'm like i was talking to a friend of mine who used to be in the car business he's now a realtor and he has he's still in touch with a lot of his friends in car business and he says they don't even advertise anymore because people are coming to them you know they don't they're not pushing the cars at all wow which is which is amazing so that's why they're able to mark these cars up and get crazy so this and also i mean you can buy a used car and sell it for more money than you paid for it oh yeah i i know for a fact like i keep saying that to my wife i'm like jesus we could sell the model why for more than we bought it for right now and she's like why would you do that and i said i would but i'm just it's a right you buy a car and you just expect it's going to be a depreciating asset forever right and it's like it's a weird thing to think that it's actually increasing value it's a weird world we're living in right now uh so so so back to the roadster so um so it sounds like you drove it you know short distances and not daily driver kind of thing did you ever happen to take it to a track or anything and really open it up or no no i never took it to a track um and mostly because the tracks near us are kind of um they're further away and and there's really no charging apparatus there so you know it would take you know significant charge to get there and then i'd have to wait a significant amount of time before i could drive it and then i have to wait to come back home again right so now a lot of the charging not a lot of the tracks um have charging stations and the new cars charge so much faster so it would be kind of interesting to do that but no i never did that yeah yeah anyway i was just curious but so so you said you got caught twice doing uh you know getting into a turn too far and i'm just like i don't know pick one of them or both or whatever curious what caused that like what what created that well i mean you know it was it was a it was a light situation was turning and um i i wanted to kind of goose goose it through the except so i didn't get caught in the light and uh i wound up on the on the grass and i actually went off the shoulder and into the grass yeah it was it was it was a major surprise for me wow just because there may have been there may have been grit on the road or something and the front end slipped out from underneath and just kept going um yeah that was that was kind of a shock and then the other one was i pulled in front of somebody which i've learned you know that it's really bad i mean i don't know if you've learned that in tesla's now i i'm very cautious about pulling in front of people because you know what the car can do but um other people don't and so you know you may have plenty of room to accelerate in front of them but i mean why put that stress on another driver so i don't do that but but this was right after i had the car and i was you know i was full of myself and um so i i pulled in front of this guy and sure enough the front end slipped out from underneath it but luckily i was able to get it back under control and i felt like an idiot and maybe that's that was my training you know for doing it yeah especially because you did it right in front of somebody so you're like right hi i'm an idiot that's exactly and that's pretty much what i did i don't recall what the guy said or did but in response but you probably got a couple of gestures yeah i may have they were waiting at me in such a friendly manner just a one finger way right so so the one where you so so basically you were on kind of like a a four-lane highway situation with a light and you were going around a corner when you did the one that ended up in the grass correct right so the light was turning and um i just it was a two lane going into a one lane it was a t and i was on the top to hit the top of the t and i was turning off the t and you know into the the vertical part of the t if you will and so instead of winding up in the lane i wound up drifting across the lane and in in actually in the i think the right wheels got into the grass oh jeez wow yeah that must have been so that was relatively soon after you purchased the car right yes yeah so after that i just learned not to not to do anything strange you know right and certainly when it was raining i was ultra cautious because you know because when it rains in florida it really rains oh yeah every time i drive to florida there's a giant monsoon kind of event it follows you exactly and that that's the only other car when i had the software i had both tops that had a hard top and a soft top and the soft top i would keep up in the summer in the winter the hard top up and and the soft top leaked like a sieve so so and it was it was they're terrible um but that was left over from the lowest so it was a lotus heart it was a load of soft top which i could have purchased lotus to replace it if i wanted to right that was i assumed all lotuses leaked the same way i don't know british british cards right it's just so different i mean the handling of the the model y never like in a turn it just feels so stable i assume x also um so it's just it's interesting how rapidly tesla had to learn to do all this you know because excellent software people and excellent engineers but not car builders so there's a lot of little things that you don't think about until you actually build a car correct so yeah so tell me about the maintenance stuff because it's interesting because one of the big benefits of course of owning a modern tesla is that the first maintenance is basically four years aside from rotating tires and stuff yeah well there is no main i don't even i i don't plan on taking my car into maintenance ever right my ex the only time it goes in is that there's something broken you know or something doesn't work right they they told me after four years i was supposed to get the battery fluid replaced but that was the first time anyway so i never heard that you know okay um but anyway so uh yeah so with that car it had a yearly maintenance and that involved um so there is a powered electronics model pin that that sat on uh on top of the battery and it was uh the width of the car uh maybe 18 inches two feet wide and six ten inches deep and um and basically with that that provided all the electronics it provided the computer uh smarts for air conditioning because the the the they use the same air conditioner for the cabin as well as for the battery in fact at one time we were driving and um i it was hot outside and i suddenly lost air conditioning in the cabin camille called tesla and i said hey what's going on and um they they were able to pull logs from my car but they couldn't push anything to it so any kind of updates they had they had to bring the car in so they pulled the logs forward and they said oh it was just getting hot outside so that the air conditioner redirected to all of its power going to the battery it's like the old cars when you go up to steep hills and the air conditioning cuts out because it doesn't have enough power to power kind of like that exactly so anyway so that so the electronics was in this was in the pen and they would so they literally removed the pen and they would open it up and they would blow it out and it would it would pick up all these leaves and crud and dust and everything and they'd have to you know blow out all this junk and they put it back then there were these massive blower motors underneath the car so they had to they come to the house to do it which is great right oh and they yeah so i mean so the first time we just went to them for you know just for a ride you know but then they said we could come to you i said okay let's do that in the future so then uh they would they take the car and they back it up over you know a set of chalks and then they they dropped the there was a pan in the bottom of the car they dropped the pan out and um which is basically just an aluminum sheet and then under the pan was uh was pretty much open that's that's where the bottom of the battery was and then they had these two big blower motors and they would drop those out and they would clean those and that's where a lot of dust and leaves were would collect in there so it's basically just a cleaning thing it took it took them a few hours to do it probably three four hours to to to do all this work and then they put it all back together i'm sorry it was once per year that they had once per year yeah every year they come and do that and um it was it was one of those things where after i saw it the first time i'm like okay i'm doing this every year because i just saw how much was involved and and and it was so the blowers i could have done myself easily but the pem revolve involved resetting stuff and you know it was you know there was reset in the software and plus they would come out and update the software if there was any changes and things like that right and then so um so that was that was the the the maintenance on the car um one one year they came out and they were servicing it and there was this loud explosion oh jeez and everybody's looking at each other like what the heck was that and um they say well we we don't really know so they went back that was the service people that didn't know it was the service people that's not good and they they went to put it in gear to get it off the the chocks and it wouldn't go so they literally could not move the car because the car the battery had disengaged itself and was nothing was going to happen so they got on the phone to tap to fremont to figure out how to disengage it because it was the car was half out of my garage i couldn't close my garage door so so they got it back basically they were able to be a phone call and some tools they really get it in the neutral and you know coast it off the off the chocks and they said we'll get back to you [Laughter] so it just sat in your driveway for a while it sat and it sat in the garage and luckily back in abroad no that was definitely a garage queen yeah so it lived in the garage except for you know when it didn't it couldn't and then um so after a few days they got back to me and they said well the batteries definitely smoked and we're gonna have to replace it oh gosh so um that happened uh and nothing with those cars happen quickly so i i toward the end of the life of my life for that car i'd say i had the car about 50 of the time oh my goodness it was it was pretty bad and it wasn't necessarily because of maintenance or because of time it was it was parts the biggest problem was parts so they replaced the battery and uh got all back installed and everything was it was fine for a while um then we were on vacation we came back again and i couldn't get the car in nothing happened so i just tried to start the car and the car had a real key by the way so oh wow so it had it had a key that you put into the ignition and turned go figure two two what did they have a little fake startup sound or something when you do that no no it wouldn't do anything it just went and clicked and then you were in here and i had the sport so if you turned it again as if you clicked it again it would go into the sport mode which again did nothing you know audibly but you could see a little difference in the in the in the gauge i think i think there was a difference in the gauge so you knew that you were in sport mode so anyway nothing would happen but it did nothing the advice would go on so i called tesla and they said well so they came out they brought up they sent a flat flatbed out and um they literally dragged the car out of the garage i still have skid marks in my garage where they they dragged it out and um they were able to get so they used this was kind of interesting they used nylon shocks they slammed after they got their car out a little bit they really get nylon shocks under the wheels and the nylon slit on the on the concrete a little bit better oh yeah so they were able to slide it around and you know they still were using winches to get it to get it ready and um to get right you know aligned to go up onto the flatbed right so they got on the flatbed and you know a couple days go by and they go well you know we're gonna have to replace the battery but this time it's on you i'm like what is this well this was no we weren't under warranty any longer at that point because the warranty on those cars was i think two years or something crazy like that and the battery was not much longer than that so anyway so they gave us you know it wasn't a crazy it was okay it was a crazy number but we were able to negotiate with them and you know we so we got it down to something you know somewhat affordable and so they said okay fine we're gonna send your battery off to actually that's what happened so they sent our battery off to fremont to get repaired so a month goes by and i called them i said hey what's going on my battery and they go we don't know we'll we'll get back to you so you know a week goes by i called what's going on i don't know we're going we've got calls into the factory we're trying to find out what's happening so finally after like two months they call me back and they go well jordan we lost your battery factory we don't know where it is we're gonna have to send you another one that's a pretty big thing to lose i mean it is a big factory so i guess it's a huge factory and their concentration was on the s at the time and you know it was they just it probably got squirreled away and and and there's probably only a handful of people who could work on the thing remember this thing was made with 2 800 lithium ion battery set uh a laptop battery cells right right so they're there you know imagine like a little oversized double a that's what this thing was made with you know and they were all welded together by hand oh it was it was a nightmare to build this thing so finding somebody to fix it was probably the same thing so they probably found one that was sitting on the shelf and they said let's ship this thing off so anyway so i got it was a it was a rebuilt one as well but right and it had this so they guaranteed me the same life or more in the battery so and and i did they gave they gave me the same like basically so wow it's pretty remarkable it's it's very interesting because it's so uh i think at each level you did you never purchased a model s did you uh or no no no so yeah because it felt like the early model s's um my my niece's husband's parents bought a 2012 model s and so they gave it to them like you know so they now have a used 2012 model s that my niece has but you know it it definitely does not feel like a modern tesla there's a lot of advances so it seems like each iteration they just keep getting better and better at building these cars and making them more you know also easier to build like you know instead of welding them by hand like the battery pack connections which is insanity uh well the new battery tabs aren't even they're not even electrolytically and welded i think they're just they're just stuck together right yeah i think so with the new the new excuse the new battery size um yeah and what's cool about tesla is they don't really have a model year right it just kind of it just changes so have you ever been to the factory i've been to the factory but it was during covet and it was shut down so i couldn't uh okay which is so i actually been i i've been on tour several times because we have family there and it's always kind of been fun to see how it's progressing right so my first visit um they were they were not quite building the s yet so they still they still were um they didn't have a little tram so now they have a tram when it's like disney world you get on the tram they take you around but by the time they that you could walk and and they only had so the factory is fast you know i mean you've seen it right so right it's it's i've forgotten how many it's like the largest building under air in the world or something the statistics are phenomenal until they finished like the cyber the one in texas probably because that was right that's a good point yeah well actually the new the new the new one the the gigafactory in nevada is probably bigger but right at the time anyway this thing was fast but they were using like a tiny corner of it and everything was black because it was originally it was um it was owned by toyota in gm right and the story with that is hilarious and every time i hear it it just blows my mind how stupid gm is so gm and toyota had that it was called the newmie factory and they built they built cars that were tagged both for gm and for toyota i've forgotten which one i think like the um oh gosh i don't remember anyway i'll put out i'll look look for it yeah put it okay anyway so but so so they were building cars together and then so at the time the contract ended gm said we want to go our way and toyota said well look you know we'd like to keep this relationship going a little longer we're working on this new car that we think that you'd be interested in and we'd love to you know for you guys to badge it as a gm product as well right that new car was called a prius and gm said no that's okay we're going to do our own thing you know so toyota walked away from basically walked away from the factory and then tesla bought it for pennies on the dollar right in fact they got some significant incentive by the state of california because they hired all these people so anyway so back to our story so we go into the factory and the whole factory was black painted dark nasty dingy ugly brown or dark you know right and you go to the part where tesla is and it's all tesla white and red everywhere you know right but it was it was just a little a little baby like a tiny corner of the whole factory right and they were it was really cool because um and i think it's still the same way that um the engineers have desks right there on the assembly line so they have so they have they have the desks upstairs where their offices are and that's where you know all the the the brain power occurs right but whenever there's an issue on the on the factory line that's going on they bring they bring the guys down on the factory line and it doesn't resolve until they don't they don't go back to their desk until it's dissolved basically yeah and even elon has a desk on the factory he did and has had his desk on right on the factory floor so there's a tiny corner of the factory that was was assigned to engineers for with best you know that's pretty cool but now that's a way to solve a problem faster too instead of oh yeah oh yeah exactly because you're right there with the guys that are fixing the problem you know right so it's brilliant right because the engineers have got their own i mean i don't i'm sure you've seen cars that are just designed so wacky it doesn't make you know the classic one is that i think lincoln had a an engine you couldn't replace two of the spark plugs in because they were in the chat the chassis was in the way right and you know that's just flat out stupid you have to drop the engine and change the spark plug i've i've i've i've had that happen i've cursed out was it i know minnie cooper and i think another vw that i've owned trying to replace the oil filter like because i like to do my own oil change sure you had to remove the turbo pump on the mini cooper in order to get to i'm like who designs this thing but that's just something driving like 5 000 miles you have to like take off you know but that's a german engine right yeah right i mean that's a bmw engine though yeah so bmw that makes it yeah yes right so that blows my mind right there that's crazy because they're generally smarter about things than that right well anyway you know i think what they want is they want people to have to go to the mini cooper or bmw dealership to get it replaced and now that's right you know then you can charge them a hundred dollars for your oil change instead of doing it it's exactly what elon says right he says that car dealerships are really service centers that sell cars right you know and and they make all their money on i mean they'll sell cars at a loss because they know that you're going to come back to get them service right yeah it's crazy so i guess so we've been talking for a really long time and i don't want to keep you too much longer but tell i mean so first of all tell me um i like unless you have something else you want to talk about like the most unexpected thing about the the tesla roadster that you discovered while you owned it or experienced or something i guess i don't i mean the whole experience of owning the car was was was such it was surreal you know i mean i would get people come up to me and they were just in awe of the car you know so this is years later they knew about tesla and the s was out and they and they and everybody i shouldn't say but many people knew what the car was right and they were you know just so impressed to you know to see the car and because and it's funny because we live in we actually live in satellite beach which is a suburb of melbourne right and we live in a community in satellite beach and there there was actually a roadster in this community before we bought ours wow okay so it was kind of funny um but they they live in uh here as well as in washington so they kind of commute back and forth and and so i think they had another one up there that and they were most they spent most of their time there so you rarely you rarely saw that all right right but um it was just kind of a funny anecdote that they they're actually two two roadsters in this community you know yeah it's a very because i mean how many did they make they only made a few thousand of those things they made twenty five hundred or thereabouts yeah yeah you get a handful of them yeah and a lot of them are direct right and and some of them are museums and right and i tried to so we actually have a car museum here and when um i was getting ready to sell the car so my deal with my wife was that when we bought the x that i would sell the roadster right i found this good deal on the x so i said we got to buy the x now so i bought the x and so we wound up having both i've got some pictures of both the x and the x next to the x and the roadster next to each other i think i actually get an audio picture yeah so yeah i'll definitely ask you to send me a bunch of pictures of the show we wound up with both cars at one time you know and and i hate keeping a car out outside and so my wife's prius was out that was our gas cover right now that was three miles a gallon so that was parked outside you know and it was kind of irking me that any car was parked outside but it was arcing me to sell the car to sell the roadster so i put it on some obscure website you know that was for sale hoping that no one would find it right because i was filming my i was dotting my my end of the bargain right right right and um somebody found it and they so they wanted to buy they they we started chatting at first you know and um it was it was a weird relation i couldn't tell it was if he was like scamming me or you know initially and then finally i called him and we started chatting and we kind of hit it off and he's he's a really nice guy he's a surgeon in in san diego and originally from cambodia and now he practices here anyway so he he flew out from san diego to look at the car we said i took a lot of pictures to him and for him and sent them to him and um he saw the car dr drove the car was happy with it we took the cashiers down checked down to the to the bank and it was from the same bank to my wife banks with so we were able to deposit it and everything was copacetic and so we were good with that so i told him i said okay i said now um i think it makes sense for me to to to since you now officially own the car it makes sense for me to take the insurance off but i won't take it off until you get insurance for the car right so he said fine so he called me like a day later and he said okay i've got insurance for the car so i said fine so i removed my insurance from the car and then he found a trucking company to ship the car to san diego so uh the truck shows up you know and and you finagled the car on and it went on there was a bentley on there there was a beetle for some reason and there was a uh there was a couple of other exotic cars you know they were on this trailer you know it was an exotic park carrier right right so i took a lot of pictures showed you know pictures for for the new owners showing that it got safely on so if there are any scratches or anything it's on the driver right yeah off it goes so a couple of days later i get a call from the driver of the of the semi and he's asking if uh if the uh because there was a gps at one time on the car that was kind of like the s and the x the teslas have now right so you could find out where the car was and also you could you know download logs and things like that so they had a an older version of sim card in the car and i said yeah but i'm not sure if it's functioning or you know we can figure out where so anyway so i contacted tesla and they go nah that ship's sailed so i i told them we couldn't fight we couldn't tell where the car was sure enough did this get lost off the back of a semi truck so the guys story goes that um he was having issues with his rig so he pulled into a a repair shop and they said that it was going to take a few days to fix the rig right so he i guess rather than sleeping in the rig where there's a perfectly good bed right yeah he got a hotel room and he was staying in the hotel room and sometime during the night or during the day it may have happened during you know broad daylight another rig shows up and says hey i'm here to offload those cars and so the mechanic goes what do i know sure go for it and of course the keys for all the cars were in the front seat of each car and that's kind of sounds like a red flag right there you'd think that they would the driver would have in his pocket at all times right yeah especially with exotic cars we're not talking about thirty thousand dollar cars we're talking about you know that's right right so this sounds like a little bit of it fell off the back of the truck sort of deal potentially so i have a friend of mine who's in the business and i said look this sounds really shady and he goes absolutely he said nine nine times out of ten these kind of things are come right back to the driver you know the driver is involved somehow so i don't know how it ended but so anyway so we got the other fellow involved with the you know the the buyer and and told them what was going on and um and so of course you know he immediately contacted his insurance company and got started to get you know go down that path so a few months go by and i got a letter from the san diego impound lot saying my car has been impounded so i called them up and i said on my car yeah they go yeah we figured that out you know after i guess they did a title search and they figured it out right so i said yeah we understand it's not your car so it's not your problem and in fact it's not anybody's problem the insurance company is going to cover it all right so um so i i saw pictures of you know in the lot of what it looked like and and so my wife goes okay you got to go there and buy the car because she knew i was kind of pining board right so uh i looked at the car and i said you know i'd love to have the car back again but i don't know if i really want to deal with the headaches of it because it was it was becoming a problem because yeah the the the repairs were taking longer to to get done right and um it was just although now rich rebuilds i don't know if you're familiar with that i know right he's just moved right down you know like in ocala so it's like right here oh so anyway so um so so that would have been an option you know but in hindsight being 2020. yeah i would have loved working on your car he would have been like yeah it was a great opportunity to meet him and stuff too so anyway so long story short uh i i said i can't do this because i said if the battery's been sitting at this point i've been sitting probably five six months you know it hadn't been charged right and they the door was held closed with a piece of string because everything is electric on that car right so they couldn't close it before the latch to close on right right and it's been sitting in out in the sun and i'm like no i i just want to pass on this right so i but i did watch the auction to see you know what was going on with it and and it sold and um and it's so it sold for like 30 000 or something which is more than i was willing to pay for it you know you know i was going to go maybe 10 you know right and then deal with the headaches right right um so anyway so i forgot about it and then i saw i belonged to tesla motors club on online and i got a uh a message a private message from somebody and because there was it's so i don't are you on on that group uh the tesla motors on facebook or or no it's it's just a general group oh it's a great group if you know i should so anyway so there's a thread on there it's called the yellow yellow bricked roadster that's my car so the guy that bought the car bought it sight unseen had it shipped to new york where it lost its top somehow it lost a hard time so somebody swiped the hard top throw it they put it on a ship and it was shipped to kiev ukraine right so the owner of the new owner of the car is is in key and he has actually serviced these cars before so he's he knew what he was getting into and he knew that he felt that he could recover the battery right he's comfortable with that right so you know saying we had this dialogue back and forth of you know and he was like so impressed how you know the condition of the car and everything because i mean i did i did baby the car okay so so no one knows what happened to the car between when it disappeared off the truck and when it appeared no no i it was found on the side of the road you know and i think what happened was they ran into they drove it until i ran out of electricity and they didn't know how to charge it and all the charging cables were there because it so it that car had um uh a 220 volt outlet that you could plug into and it had an inline charger kind of like what the the what you get when you buy a tesla right you know that that box that comes with it it looked a little bit like very clunky oh my god very fun it looked like i built it in my garage so and the wire on it was massive i mean we're talking like almost an inch and a half inch in diameter i mean it was a massive wire so like you know it's just kind of like yeah it was like like that and and so when i saw the first when i when i went to a dealership and they here what are they called they call them showroom showroom showroom and i went to a showroom and they showed me the new ones i'm like holy crow okay you know you know the charging cables that they have at the supercharger was at least as big as that but much heavier because it was like all copper wow it was massive i couldn't even build those things anymore because it's so expensive to buy copper right now well i mean there's there's a lot of data going back and forth on the supercharger run so there's probably a fiber optic link or some kind of link going back and forth this one had nothing it was just probably well plus the fact those things are 250 plus kilowatt hours you know right really massive amounts of electricity flowing through there well and that's the thing so you but when you when you boost the the the voltage you can reduce the current right right right so with this we're not talking massive amounts of voltage right i mean i i don't know what voltage it was it was 220 coming out of the wall but i don't know what what the the box was converting it to yeah um but so i did have an adapter but the adapter was amazingly clunky also so it was a big pigtail if you unplug the you know you unplug it out of the box and plug in this pigtail to plug it into 110 you know [Music] it was right so my wife liked to call she called it our frankenstein because it was like built from all these different pieces parts you know right it really did kind of look clunky and and you could get so you know with the tesla you can for the charger these little adapters that you can you can plug into the end of them and i think you can get a kit for like 80 50 bucks or something i don't know what it is right um but that one to get a full set was like 800 or something because each pigtail was like a foot long and it had a connector on one side and a connector on the other it was very clunky i actually i actually just bought a nema 1450 which is the four prong right on one and it was 55 but it fits just straight into those you know standardized tesla accord so right and yeah probably not the same at all so you probably bought it from tesla right yeah yeah i did so there's after market that's a lot cheaper than that now right oh i didn't know that they have a little funky little plug thingies that because tesla uses their own little proprietary like right right here yeah yeah but but but 3d printers are king so you know you can print anything you want exactly i didn't notice i've been staring at your 3d printer the whole time going like oh nice so that's another project my son and i are working on one so one thing was when i did have early on i had a crack in the windshield uh it was a chip for something you know cracker windshield so i called tesla in in uh um dania beach and i said hey here's the situation and they said oh no problem we'll come pick it up and i called the insurance company and they covered the whole thing you know soup to nuts and i'm like okay because you know it was over so certain size and sort of screen review and everything yeah i said great so they come and flat that and they said we got one in stock we'll have it we'll have it turned around we'll have it back to you in two days i'm like that's awesome so they get down there and they call me and they go we got a problem i said what's the problem they said well you have a twenty twenty ten and i'm like yeah and they said we have a 29 or 2011 or whatever windshield i'm like yeah and they said well the vin is in a different location and like what are you talking about so you know you know the vin and the windshield right it's like in the lower right corner like underneath the driving underneath the steering wheel yeah in bed they had shifted it by an inch or something like that and they're not by law they're not allowed to move that so because it was moved they had to have they all had to order a windshield specifically for the car so they had to get one from fremont and ship it and kill the cat from california to florida to replace my women so what should have been in like two days wound up to be like three weeks oh my gosh that's the it just makes you realize how one-off all of these things were you know kind of almost the car was its own individual entity because it was absolutely yeah yeah crazy and the other thing i went and touched on was it was the tires it was it was crazy um so i was i'd get 5 000 miles out of a set of rear tires what so but they weren't they weren't like over the top expensive i think they were each like about 150 bucks you know 180 or something like that um i mean i've spent way more than that on tires before um all right i shouldn't say i have i've seen people spend way more than that on time but why was it just the differential was poor or something and they were no it was where um so they wear pretty evenly um the problem was the weight because a lot of the weight was so the lotus was considered a mid-engine car but i think when they put the battery in it was no longer mid-engine it was rear engine and that probably that probably uh caused the front engine front end to be light i mean i did push that car over 100 at one point and it scared the heck out of me right because i really felt like i mean obviously it wasn't gonna happen but i felt like the wind was getting in underneath the underneath it's gonna tip it was gonna lift you know yeah so uh and that probably contributed to why i slipped through the through the uh through the turn um so the yeah i think there was just a lot of weight in the rear tires and i think that just the torque was just unbelievable you know coming right in between the weight and the and the um the positioning of the of the battery but uh the good news is i could get ten thousand out of front ones right so they go wow still that's a that's a little uh i mean i guess when you're buying a sports car you expect to be replacing the entire israelites my brother-in-law actually he's got he drives ferraris and he says that he said that's not bad he said five thousand miles unsaid fire is not bad at all right and at least you're only spending 150 bucks on the tires instead of probably the ferrari's probably more like eight or nine hundred percent well and you probably can only have it done at a ferrari dealership and you know i can tell you stories about his problems to get an oil change he flatbeds it to orlando which is like an hour an hour and 20 minutes and they so what normally should cost like you know 50 bucks for an oil change it costs him like 1500 or something like that and then and then by the way you know this is a ferrari thing oh while we're in there you know we you know we noticed that you know your differential needs to be adjusted so you know you know we'll tack on another three thousand dollars the dollar signs just keep adding up i had a friend who had a uh it's not like i have all these friends with exotic cars but he had he had a lamborghini and um he said the same thing would happen he took it in for for something and the next thing he knows he's replacing the transmission which is fine right this is exactly the reason why with the gas cars that i had like the mini cooper i found a guy who would change the oil because if you bring it into the bmw dealership they're like oh you need this and this and you know and something it's like a 75 oil change is two thousand dollars and you're like you know i this is frightening i found out that our local toyota dealership actually gives the um the at a a commission so when they find things oh yeah so when they find things they it actually it's to their benefit to find problems with your car oh okay interesting right which is horrible when you think about it absolutely horrible not surprising though horrible but not surprising so yeah right and as long as you know if they're getting reimbursed reimbursed by the factory you know what do they care right exactly what do i care i'm getting a new part or something getting fixed that's great as a partner as a car it's free but but the factory is getting gouged speaking of that for like did did tesla do those yearly maintenance things was that on you or on them when that was on me that was on me and i i want to say it was like it wasn't over the top it was like 800 bucks or something like that right you know which which considering they came to me you know and then there weren't i don't recall there being too many parts involved um so it was mostly time you know but right you know for for four hours three or four hours in my garage plus an another hour round trip 10 hours you know five hours uh yeah yeah i i figured that was that was not too bad right plus the responsibility of you know breaking something yeah no that's that sounds and again i you know you just have to kind of consider that this is a this is a it's a sports car it's a luxury type of car so you're not you're not buying it like a toyota corolla where you're like oh minimum amount of cost all the time it's like no you're going to spend money on this and take care of it so although although the three is cheaper in the in the end than a camera oh absolutely i mean the reason why we ended up buying our model y was because we ran it against the mazda cx-5 and i realized that with if you include resale at the end of it uh that it would be substantially cheaper if you owned it for it was only like three years three and a half years before the break even happened and i was like well hell it's just a cash flow issue at that point because you have to pay more money up front but right but it balances out so exactly that's exactly right yeah yeah and so i it's interesting because um i posed because we belong to electric group and that's the electric park group and that's how i got kind of in touch with you right and um i posed a question the other day i said do you feel like you're driving the future and everybody else is normal or do you feel like you're normal and everybody else is behind the times right and and almost everybody said they were driving the future right but i i don't know i i kind of feel like i'm i'm normal i feel like i'm the car i i guess because i've been driving electric cars for you know 10 years now right i feel like this this is a normal way to drive a car and so when i whenever we rent cars we travel and when we when we rent cars i mean i feel awkward you know like it's like i got to go find a gas pump oh this is hilarious you want to hear a really funny story sure so uh so one day i had my wife's prius and i had an appointment so i had to get to the appointment so i'm going to appointment and i noticed the cars running out of gas you know i got to get gas so now i'm like oh dumb now i got to go find a gas station right so and i'm really panicking because i got time you know because whenever i leave the car whenever i leave the garage with an electric car it's topped up and ready to go right right but i didn't even notice it with a prius and i'm getting close to the dentist and i'm like oh you know i don't know if i can make it right so now i gotta find a gas station right so i get to the gas station and i'm looking at the mississippi i'm looking at the pump trying to remember how to you know just swipe the car and all that stuff and and and i don't have to mention you know alzheimer's yet right no yeah it happens the same with me i like i get to the gas station i'm like how does this work again you know unbelievable yeah so that that is a kind of a funny ana aside with you know owning an electric car right but yeah so i it just i think that you know i think that we're i i think we're past the normal stage or the the the future stage i think we're normal and i think people that are buying electric cars are just stupid i mean i mean not playing bite ice cars you know gasoline car cars they just they haven't done the math they don't understand but you know which i was talking to a friend of mine today and um he's i actually i i just met him his wife and my wife are friends and so they were over and um so we were chatting about electric cars and then you know he was kind of like shocked i was telling him you know that there's no maintenance on the cars and it's you know incredibly cheap to charge and and he was he was more worried about driving in california and i said well yeah you know we drove to california we came back again with the car and yeah it took a few extra stops but i i don't i wouldn't say that it took a lot longer than if i were to drive by myself because i don't i i don't do well you know for driving 16 hours at a time you know i'm only good for you know so many miles and then i got to stop and walk around take a break take a nap to whatever you know right so yeah it took us longer but i wouldn't say it took us like five hours longer you know i took maybe three hours longer you know on a 16-hour trip or something i don't consider that a problem right so and because because i had the roadster when i bought the model x they i was able to get uh free charging so i have free free uh uh supercharging yeah so yeah it doesn't didn't cost me a dime right yeah that's what uh we actually went to boca chico we went to go see spacex in the spring and we have a free year of supercharging which is really nice when we bought the car and i i tell you the big revelation to me was i i don't know i don't i've driven it around and especially my wife is very reticent to try technology but and so she would never try the autopilot right we have the full self-driving and all that stuff and she was like no no no it's too scary and all that stuff but what you realize is when you're on a road trip like that after several hours of driving your brain just gets addled right it's just not good anymore and that car was you know you just put it on that autopilot you kind of monitor it and it was it it made me so much more confident about driving longer hours and it was so much less stressful not to have to think to be like oh gosh gosh you know i got to make sure i don't crash into something and you know 11 o'clock at night you're just like you know not paying attention so 100 agree yeah 100 agree and and at the end of a long trip like that you're not exhausted you know you you're actually you know you have some energy left right and in fact when we did our trip um my wife actually did use autopilot and she's the same way you know she doesn't i use autopilot whenever possible because we have people self-driving i pull out i pull out of the driveway and turn it on i'm like go do you have do you have the beta yet no i i'm not one of the lucky fews yeah i don't i don't either i've been and i was kind of i'm just kind of disappointed you know this figure has a as an early owner you know actually you more than i because i've only had one recently but yeah you've had one since 2011 or so so you should thought we had the x we bought the x latex 18. right now but i mean you have the roadster too right you're like an original you know right og kind of like tesla guys so right and and i do feel like a little bit like a bit of a shock but when i when i whenever i bring the car in for service you know i do drop that you know i say oh by the way i did have a roadstroke for a while and they're like oh yeah exactly so they're like wow you've been with tesla longer than we have so we just had a powerwall installed and the guys that were putting it in we were chatting you know and they said oh you got a tesla i said yeah i actually had a roaster before and they were like really like i had to bring out my phone and show them pictures and stuff they were like more more in ensconce with that you know then then then the guys at the at the dealership get the service center right so that was pretty funny that's cool so did you end up buying the solar roof or solar panels with the power well we've had we've had we've had the panel since 2010. oh 2010 2011. so we actually before before solar city existed right right and um we had the same panels and that's a bit of a story so i we got ready we had hurricane damage um a couple years ago and i get ready to put in new patent new new roof and to do that they had to take off all the old panels and then put the new roof on and put the old panels back on so i'd already put the deposit down on the tesla roof and as i called them i said hey when are you guys going to have that available in this area and they said well i said you know it's probably going to be a while you know we don't we probably won't know for at least another we won't know for another right right so i say well sure you know you know you're not going to know for another year it means another two years before you actually get and we started construction right so i started ripping off the roof and and everything and i get a phone call while we're ready to install your route i'm like you've got to be kidding me i said what happened to a year you know well you know things happen so i said well i've got a contract with this guy right now i can't kick him off the roof and actually i think he may have already been finished you know yeah yeah yeah so i'm like well you know i would love to have gone through with it but um because i mean it it is very cost effective oh yeah for sure especially florida so we i was talking to a neighbor who's getting ready to put one in and i paid i wrote a check for 28 000 for for my 10 kilowatt system they're getting a 20 kilowatt system for like 32 000 so that shows you how far and how cheap it has gotten right so double the system for almost the same price yeah that's remarkable it's really incredible but with incentives and everything i paid for i paid it paid for itself so i wrote a check for 28 000. but i got 23 000 off on on taxes oh my goodness so because you're able to bundle it in with any kind of repairs you have to make which was basically a new roof at the time right so um and so i was able to write you know so basically i only paid five thousand for it which i it paid for itself in two years oh yeah so you know the last eight years i've been you know it's it's free and it's been saving me tons of money every year so it generates about as a good secret like if we get like hail damage or something like that on the roof that that would be a good time to get solar panels absolutely right and hopefully you know with the with with biden and you know green new deal and all that good stuff maybe they might because right now the the the incentive is to to continually reduce that the idea is to continually reduce the incentive right until it kind of goes away which i think is reasonable at some point you know but i don't think enough people are on board yet yeah i think we're too early for that i agree so it used to be like 30 or 32 33 something like that i think now it's down to like 28 right but i think with the new administration they're talking about or there's rumors anyway that they may either reenact it or even increase it you know right so yeah that's that's the way to buy it is you replace your roof and and get the solar at the same time yeah that's that's clever so we went to this was really fun we went to uh they encouraged students to do um a solar i think it's a solar learning center or something like that we have locally here anyway so every year they have it they put on this presentation and they put on this show and people they make hot dog ovens they make you know all kinds of crazy stuff right but one of the highlight is they have a little track that they set up and they race cars electric cars so the students and these are you know high school students they work they build these cars from the ground up and they race these cars around this track so um and it was kind of fun watching them but at the end of the race they asked me to get on to race the track with them so i have a video of me racing around this little track with these i think i'm by myself so i'm not on the track with them but um but i have some video of them racing too which is kind of cool i mean if you haven't seen it before it's really neat yeah kids yeah you know that they've manufactured something actually works right and then they're able to make it competitive you know that's very cool i've seen like the robot wars where they have to make the autonomous robots that fight right and do tasks and stuff but i haven't seen one with the solar not for high school i've seen it for college but right right no these are high school kids and it's so cool you know that's great yeah and then we went we and we so we would go as our club and we'd have all our cars out parked out front and you know we're curious about them and stuff oh cool that's a perfect environment for that yeah oh yeah but we do that a lot actually there's a we did we were doing it one every year we have a kind of a meet-up and there's a national electric day and then electric car national electric car day i think it's great and then um yeah so actually it's fun to go even if you just come as a but as a right yeah just to check out what people have yeah that's pretty cool and you talk to people about their experiences with the cars and um and you can talk to a whole bunch of different owners and and manufacturers bring their cars also so we invite it to anybody wow anybody saw that's really cool yeah and yeah so and actually we've had manufacturers you know go up to them after the event they go yeah we've got like people come in there they put down orders and cars and they're going to come by test drive and stuff and yeah it is it's fun and we have like uh the the solar roof guys come and they they show what they've got and talk about it and they get they get a lot of orders from that as well all righty uh well again thank you so much i really appreciate all the time and now you're welcome you know if i think this will be a really fascinating interview for people to watch and like just discover because of course obviously with tesla growing exponentially there's exponentially more people now that own or know about tesla than did right a decade ago so i think it'll be fascinating for people to hear about you know the good the bad the the kind of weird the fact that the roof leaked like a sieve things like that [Laughter] interesting things to hear about um so yeah and congratulations yeah john was so bad at the at the upper corner where the where the with the roof you know the the soft top came down right built into the what's that the a-post right yeah the color right built into the a-pillar there was a rubber cup to catch the water drips wait by by at least they made them so they knew how bad it leaked jeez come on guys that doesn't sound it sounds conducive for california but not so much for florida like because you guys do get serious rain we do like right but it really that car rarely would not rain you know i i'd have to be caught in the ring right yeah it's one of those oopsies you're out of the grocery store you gotta get back home again so yeah all right well cool on that note i will say thank you so much oh you really appreciate it you know my pleasure yeah thank you all and i will talk to everybody else later of course too so all right okay and i'll get those pictures to you yeah thank you so much all right okay take care bye you

Channel: Dr. Know-it-all Knows it all

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Length: 68min 11sec (4091 seconds)

Published: Mon Aug 09 2021