International dt466 rebuild

well hello guys here here we are um i was gonna make a continuation of part two which i still will on the kubota i got the shuttle pack together there's a little sleeve that goes over the shaft and it's basically what it is is a seal ride it goes up against a there's an o-ring on the shaft so the id of that sleeve goes over the o-ring that's on the shaft so it seals it from there the oil seals it from the id and the od seals on the actual input shaft seal well i pushed that sleeve on there and it cracked on me so i called them and next they aired one of those but uh i forgot to uh you know had a couple loose ends i had to tie up on this couple brackets and stuff like that but i wanted to show you a com successful test drive i didn't show that i'll tell you what happened guys that damn that 8420 t that we just did the video on there i went to that thing yesterday well last night at about six o'clock and it was just a cluster because i got all the way out there and then found out that i forgot to bring that laptop with me so then i was gonna video it i came all the way back to the shop grabbed my laptop went all the way back out there to the tractors 10 miles away 20 mile round trip obviously and then i start testing on it and then i had the codes out of i i basically worked about dark and then i came back to the shop to get the loader on this because i wanted to get this pretty well wrapped up and then i forgot the camera it's just ah we're gonna go test driver i calibrated the transmission one of these days because i'm sure i'll run into another one i'll show you how to calibrate the transmission on one of these but you can ship you can adjust your you can you can calibrate your shift modulation let's go in high parts break on oh let's put the old camera right here maybe yeah we had no forward movement before and uh now we got far we got forward now and i had to charge the air conditioner last night hopefully this test drive goes good and we'll call to come get her so far so good there's a peterbilt sitting right up there with a load of hay on it we just out of frame rebuilt [Music] give it a good road test because these boys here they they're about 16 17 miles that way and i know they'll just come get it and road at home [Music] so we got to make sure she's gonna make it [Music] here's our corner over 9620 t as i approach the corner where the 9620t broke down i am reminded of all the people on the comment section asking me what about the 9620t here's the deal uh so i've got the engine i see i got the engine installed thursday before last and uh i told him about it and we've been waiting ever since for this john deere rep to come out and watch me start the engine they rebuilt so i don't know if they don't trust us or he's just trying to sleep you know i'm not sure what i'm not sure what the deal is anyway but i can i'm going to call the owner here monday morning and i got a feeling if they don't get over here monday then he's probably gonna tell me to start it he needs to track her so you can probably look forward to me starting that thing up here probably within the next day or two you'll probably have something you'll you'll you'll have some closure on that well i think she'll make her home all right i'm gonna call these guys tell them to come get it anyway i worked in here yesterday and tell you what guys i took a pretty nasty spill yesterday i haven't i haven't hurt this bad in a long time it reminds me of my old days when i used to do a lot of dirt bike racing and riding when i was younger and i took some pretty nasty spills on some dirt bikes and kind of reminded me of the days of riding dirt sickles everywhere and what happened is i was putting stuff up last night and i had a bottle of refrigerant i charged the air conditioner on that peterbilt and i i don't know if i slipped off this i stepped over it but uh next thing i know as i ended up facing i mean i planted face first on the ground here just bam i mean and my wrist i'm i'm working but my wrist is it's either spraying or jammed it or something i don't think it's broke it's not swollen up but i mean it's a tender i don't have you know the strength in my grip that i should have it's just tough going but you know as grandpa used to tell me get tough or um anyway and my knee was bothering me last night where i hit the ground and anyway i'm the knee's not too feeling too bad at all now it's just that damn wrist so we just gotta just do what you used to do there when i used to wreck a dirt bike you just get up and hobble around for a while trying to catch your breath you just holy that hurt anyway here's our dt-466 enough of me whining about me falling it's just the older you get there guys the worst it's the harder it is to bounce up it just really is uh here's our dt-466 and i think i might have explained this a little bit in my kubota video that i've got some footage on too but we'll just do it we'll go over it again this block is the original block that was in this truck all right and it had electrolysis really bad and the liner where the liners o-ring seat up in the lower bore let me get my light and i'll shine down in there and i'll show you where the where they did some machining work and they were trying to put sleeves but i guess the sleeves kept breaking every time they tried to push one of the sleeves in it kept breaking on them so he found another block which isn't quite right and i'll show you that there's quite a few different things about it see that where they machined them and well they kept breaking the sleeves you know and anyway he found this block and keep in mind this is a turbocharged engine and he said the only thing he could see that was different was this right here see this elbow on here it's got a nipple on there and that's your turbo drain line and it's threaded into the block well they got the box turned around backwards on the pallet here so you got to come over to this side as you can see there's no elbow there that's not too big of a deal i mean it's just a little more work which kind of sucks but what we can do there and i've actually done this before is i'll cut a hole in the oil pan right up there towards the top of it and then i'll just weld the phoenix flange into the oil pan up towards the top towards the rail you know because you want you you want the you don't want the oil to drain and then weld it in there and then thread that elbow in there and just put a longer hose on the on the drain tube the i think this was a naturally aspirated uh engine here so the other thing that i noticed that was different up here they got a plug keep in mind the blocks are turned around backwards here's the dowels and a couple allen plugs they pulled out we'll have to figure out where those go um as you can see they got a plug right here this is oil we traced it out on this other block it looks like they had the cam bearing pushed forward you can see the oil group the cam bearing here is not sitting where it's supposed to be see the groove in that block that cam bearing is supposed to be further back well there's a hole right there this is the main gallery okay but then there's a hole right here and it intersects with this hole this is the new head gasket and as you can see what i think happens here because there's no hole in the head i already thought the head over and there's no hole in the head that intersects with this hole so it looks like to me with the path that's here for the head gasket that the oil comes out of that hole comes over to this rocker shaft bolt yeah that's where the rockers would bolt down and then it comes up that head bolt hole a rocker shaft bolt hole and and then comes up through there to oil the rockers is what it looks like to me so um they've got an allen head plug in it over here which i think we got to get that out of there i don't think we i don't think we can have that in there so i got a service manual for it i'm gonna get into the service manual this morning and see if there's like a oil flow thing there that tells me anything where the oil comes from just to make sure just from eyeballing it and looking at it that's kind of what it looks like to me that it comes up it comes up around the shank of the bolt and comes up and feeds the rockers the rockers are sitting over here in this junk pile over here and there's no feed holes in the pedestals as you can see there's no feed holes in them pedestals i'm trying to think this through here so if you got the rocker shaft sitting in there that end there is going to be on this end's going to be on the valves this is going to be on where the basically where the push rods are and the push rods are going to be coming up right through here where the lifters are so they would bolt down right here right along here and then stick out in the rockers the ends of the rockers where they hit the valves would be out here so that makes sense it's got to be coming through them rocker shaft bolt holes i guarantee if we put it together like this with that plug they got in there we're not going to have any oil to our rocker shafts and the other thing i noticed it was a little bit different which is probably the thing that really is inconsequential it didn't really mean much of anything is that down here you can see that we've got see this hole right here see this hole right here um let's take this head gasket and put it over here i think i need to turn it around yeah like that see this big cut out here well this block over here which would be right here which would be the same spot right here it has the actual cutout in it but if you look at the cylinder head the head's just got the little hole just like this so it doesn't really make much difference to have this big hole here so i don't think that's going to make any difference so i think the main things to overcome is the turbo drain line the drain line and uh is there a puck for is there a hole for a block heater on this other one trying to see if that was oh they get it i see they get in the freeze plug hole which i don't think we're gonna this thing only gets used in the summertime i think that block heater we're not even gonna put it in there this is a hay hauler they only use it in the summer time and these dt466s when they're right in the summertime especially in the summertime they start right up there you shouldn't need a block heater for it so anyways it's got new cam bearings in it we just gotta we gotta cross our t's and daughter eyes on this deal to make sure we're getting oil to the top end of the engine and things like we're supposed to we don't want to do it twice okay it looks like it's going to come out fairly good here i don't find some something goofy with it when i pull it out let's get a light and shine down in that hole and see hopefully there's nothing odd about what's going on here i wonder why they plugged that they drilled that out and tapped it so you should be able to blow through that you could probably actually just take some penetrating oil and squirt down that hole and i bet you you get some i bet you get something out the bearing here i thought maybe maybe it's just all i see the groove in there i just got to make sure guys let me get the rubber tip blow nozzle and i'm going to push a little air do can i see any daylight i got to make sure i'm going to get oil through there got gotta make 100 sure [Music] turn this around oh oh oh okay there's another problem i just found this plug here they've got out okay there was a couple plugs that said that we were responsible for putting them back in so that's one of them there let's look on the other block i wonder if they ever pulled those out that one's got a plug where that one didn't have one huh that one's got a plug clear up here or that one didn't have that plug yeah this bug's got to be back in there damn air hose one of these things one of these things you think i'd fix my damn air hose huh we got to get a little pipe dope so there's one of the one of the pubs that needs to be installed where would the other one be i don't know what that does right there i don't know why they did that i just can't quite figure out what their whole game plan was they're plugging the old galleries to feeds the head i mean it just seemed like why would you do that now i got to figure out where this oil this other one came out of if they pulled out i don't know i mean these machine shops i mean i i don't want to run those guys down but you know if they got a note and they're saying it's the mechanic's responsibility to put these back in that's like me saying it you know what i changed your engine oil you know hopefully your pan plug doesn't fall out going down the road it's your responsibility to tighten it back up i'm sorry to me you pulled it out put the soundbitch back in why is it my responsibility to put your back in i think that's where it goes right there what the hell is this down here well that's where that fitting that fitting right there will go into where that well wait that fitting will go right there but that plug was probably right there's where it was so is there any other places on the side of the block that might be missing a plug ah this one here has been pulled out right here okay that's where it was right there let's look at that other block and see if it's been pulled out of there yeah they pulled it out of this one too i mean okay they pulled all these out every one of them so i guess the first thing we'll just i guess we better dim we burn our bank damn sure we'll pull those plugs back out like this one and we'll blow clear through it and see if make sure there ain't no metal shavings it's well you know they really didn't do much machining on this i think the only machining they might have done was cut the counter bores on it so this one here you can actually see the metal flakes because they gave up on this one you can see the metal flakes sitting down there in the water passages so at least i got an idea here now so i'm gonna try to i'm gonna i'm gonna blow clear through all this try to get it all cleaned out and then i'm gonna uh put some pipe dope on those allen head plugs put them back in then i wanna pressurize this and make sure that i'm getting good you know flow down through there wow so yeah my wrist feels a lot better it did yesterday didn't work very long yesterday i was hurting pretty bad everything's turning all right well i gotta lube up my main bearing caps and you know like i tell people i don't usually the cranks are the same so here's the deal this older block well actually this box newer i want to come out of it this is an older block all right so we got the crank in it and all the bearing caps torqued down this is when the things were made in the good old days they just gave you a torque spec 115 foot-pounds you know not you know it's just just a simpler you don't have to do all this torque angle stuff here so i'm going to run number one and six down the bottom dead center and i know i didn't i didn't plastic agent and the reason i didn't plastic is because this this thing didn't have any crankshaft problem so the actual thickness of the bearing now that there's a wide and narrower bearing between the older and newer blocks so that's the difference there but the thickness of the bearing and the crankshaft is the same so that's why i didn't plastic gauge we didn't have any crankshaft problem so we had we had good oil pressure so anyhow um i'm gonna flop her back over and we're gonna put rods and pistons i guess before i even do that i need to get all my pistons set up on my rods all right guys i'll show you how to one set up one piston rod assembly on this dt466 so these reliance kits come a lot of guys think they're like set up like a cat because the the piston comes with the rings on it set up in the liner already well as you know i like pull pop them out anyway and check my and check my my rings i i just don't trust you know so anyway if you read the directions on these power on these kits when they come they're shipped this way with a piston in the liner to keep the rings from getting damaged because i guess probably reliance had a bunch of had a bunch of parts probably that the shippers were destroying by slamming and banging stuff around so let me clean this off see if i can see a little yeah there we go anyhow so these pistons are marked cam side and obviously that's how it's going to go to the cam so pull your snap ring one snap ring out just go like that give me some good old assembly lube here luber plate and then i had these rods all sent off they've got all new small end bushings in them and then they they clean these up so then it tells you in the book there the service manual says the short end of the split on the big rod end goes towards the cam side so you got this uh what they're talking about there this is the long end of the split here on this end this is the short end of the split so put that like that this is on the cam side and i just flip it over makes it a little bit easier and then take my snap ring there and just pointer i usually try to point them at six o'clock just make them all the same i've heard a lot of there's a lot of debate over that too it didn't really make any difference as far as i've ever known but so now you can see that here's the cam side it says right there on the piston and the short end of the split on the rod the big end is facing the cam side here's another thing that here's another thing there's no a lot of guys you know these have what they call these are machine rod caps all this newer stuff you'll run into 99 of its fractured rod caps and the whole purpose of that is cheaper everything's cheaper now everything's cheaper to manufacture now that i mean a lot of the bearing caps and rods now don't even have they don't even have tangs and they call these lock tangs but to be completely honest with you if you do a little research on that and study on that that's not really to keep that bearing from spinning there that's basically a locating tab to center the bearing shell into the cap that's all that's for it ain't going to keep that bearing from spinning if that bearing seizes up that little tab ain't going to keep that sucker from spinning because there should be a certain amount of bearing crush when that cap and that rod squeeze together anyway i thought i would show you that you've probably seen me do a lot of newer stuff and all the newer stuff's got you don't see a lot of machine rod caps anymore everything's fractured you wonder how many of those they when they first started doing those fractured rods how many of those they were trying to figure out how to snap them in the right spot and i wonder how many trial and error things they did they're breaking rods in half before they figured out well we don't want to do it like that you would think they probably destroyed a whole bunch of them before they figured it out unless there's some computer design or some computer program somewhere that showed them where right where to break it at i don't know that's beyond me but you know it's going to cost more to do machine work to machine these rods to work instead of just putting them in whatever fixture they've got and snapping them into okay so then there's numbers on here too on the rod cap and usually you'll find that your bearing tanks same thing on the mains they're going to face the same side see that they're on the same side and then the numbers on the broadcast the rod and the cap will match you know they're a lot of the older engines they'd number the rods and what hole they come out of i mean if you were putting the same piston or whatever back in there and you had a problem maybe i don't know it it that doesn't really make any difference either it really doesn't okay so put this one over here make sure that that's all the same and then i gotta flop the block back over and then we'll install all our pistons let's just kind of check out our crankshaft in play right quick see where we're at [Music] yeah i need to re-zero this thing some deflection there i mean let's get the damn thing to zero up right here i must have this tightened down i guess not it's just being awkward about four thousandths push on her a little bit harder you got about five i'd say we're probably closer to once you put the bar underneath i'm not putting very much tension on it let me go back with my bar back in here and then zero this dial indicator started really piss me off it's like being stiff or something then i'll come back to here and i've got i've got six thousandths there okay i think the spec is six to twelve so it's just a little bit one thousand so i'm not going to fuss too much about that i'd rather have the thrust a little closer than way too much you know so anyway there's a thrust plate i got to get this thing flipped up i'm really going to stand it at vertical that's what we're going to do uh i wonder how to pick it up from the other end though maybe i will pick it up from the other end that way i don't have the nose of the crank sticking out there in a way yeah can i stick the nose through the pallet or yeah then maybe i'll stick the nose to the pallet we'll see well i'll show you what's going on i've got this this is the last one i'll show you the process which i finally mostly got figured out it's been a real pain because i've never had this happen this ring compressor sets a snap-on ring compressor said i laid it over here on the forklift but it it's basically i've had this for so many years but it comes with various size bands that you know you put the pliers on them they're orientated to where there's a bottom to that this little little indentation here where the tits on the plier grab it it's offset and that goes towards the bottom and i've used them for a lot of years you know and i've never really had too many problems some things they don't work so great on you'll have a a little bit of a problem from time to time to where what what this band will be so thin it wants to suck that band in between the piston and the liner it's not doing that here i've run into a different problem like on the is-x i didn't have any trouble at all no problems at all just slid them right in the problem i'm having here is these notches that snap on made into their bands their rings are wanting to hang up on these notches so i'm having to be really really careful with that so i'll show you the pain in the butt process it's that's uh happening on this little ordeal how's that lens look is it clear or is it got oil smudge on it i think it looks okay but here is the pain in the butt process i've been going through i kind of got it figured out but this will be the one that'll make me look like a complete fool because i'm videoing it now so what i'm having to do here i don't want to open into that gap of that ring compressor but i've got all my rings my gap staggered already i didn't want that piston to move in like that it's just being a real real pain in the ass and it's easier doing it vertical i understand that this saves me i don't have a stand so it's just easier for me to do it this way let's put her up there like that all right dirty son so what i have to do now now it's hanging in the grooves these other two rings are hanging in the grooves so now what i got to do is loosen this all the way up i gotta slide it in just a little ways but not too far and then get back on it and then go the rest away that's been that's what i've had to do on all of them and i think i might have went in a little bit too far yeah i did i got to go back out just a touch see that's the problem you shove on a little bit and it wants to shove it clear back out too damn far oh yeah this son of a didn't didn't get in the in the knot on their on the wheel there somehow that's what i've had to do on every single one of them i know some some people will be a first-time viewer of the video and oh this guy i don't know what the hell he's doing but you know they say that without watching the hundreds of other videos that i've made rebuilding various types of equipment and engines so they base it off five seconds of what they saw on the first video and then you ever notice how it seems like most people are really short-sighted that whole can't see the force for the trees thing comes into play seems like really big everybody's not like that but a majority of people it seems like they are well i shouldn't say a majority i'd say that a good many of them are i watch quite a bit of stuff before i make that determination you know sometimes you know sometimes guys just have bad days i don't care if what you do it goes wrong you know the other day was like that the other day it didn't matter what i did it wasn't gonna be right okay uh i wonder where my 5 12 point socket so i'm dead in the water on this project somehow there was a miscommunication on the gasket set basically what was happened i know we ordered an out-of-frame gasket set and they sent us an end frame gasket set i went to put the i was gonna clean up the uh what the hell i did with it but you know i call it the cookie sheet you gotta put the cookie sheet on here before you put the cam in and you can't even put this there's an idler gear this idler gear goes right here and it's got a timing mark that lines up with the crank gear and then the cam goes here and it's got two timing marks set to line up with the two timing marks on this idler anyhow i went to put that uh oh here it is right here i went to put that on there and there's you know of course there's gonna be a gasket on each side of it and neither one of them are there and then i got the look and there's no front seal and i said then i realized they sent us an in-frame gasket kit so the owner is really really he's really happy right now because hand season's here and here we don't have all the parts so he's actually calling the dealer and he's just going to pay the big bucks the next day and get it here so we can keep going it's just good grief you know it's always something it's just almost like every time you get these boxes the first thing you need to do is just open them up and and and just go through everything

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Id: Gkaoe-PfV70

Length: 42min 45sec (2565 seconds)

Published: Sun Jun 20 2021