Indy 500 Legends Testing Day: Inside Access! Classic Race Winning Cars Back On Track

we're going to give you an inside look at the Vintage race car preparations for the Indie 500 you know the ones that they do the parade laps and stuff with before the race it's Thursday right now they pull these out of the museum yeah they either pulled them out of the museum or in mcclaren's case shipped them over from England these cars will be on the track later today with uh former drivers driving them and not necessarily the former driver of the car before we start actually firing all these up I can go through our other one sorry I can go through our other cars real quick two cars that are not part of the museum collection yeah do these people want to talk to us I I say you could probably ask find out we've got the 1974 McLaren turbo AI Indie 500 winner driven by Johnny Rutherford so this was McLaren's uh do that wa a minute this was mcclaren's first team win as a Works car at the 500 a McLaren chassis won in 1972 but it was a team Pensky entry so this was the second McLaren chassis to win the 500 we've got the 2003 GeForce panas chassis with a Toyota naturally aspirated V8 in it this one the 2003 n500 with Jilla faren so they are uh participating in the Vintage lap with us in honor of Jill and these cars scream there's no turbocharger on them to kind of quiet the exhaust note a really interesting thing about this year is Pensky had two entrance and they entered they began the month with two delara chassis both Toyota power plants and then they tested the GeForce the Panos built chassis which is an American built chassis and uh Jill decided to go with the GeForce so the team had two different cars they had ELO and the delara and they had Jill in the GeForce and they were both brand new chassis for that year brand new design so they finished one two Jill beating out Elio in the delara in his GeForce and it's very rare that teams would run two different chassis normally for the sake of data and and consistency they all decide on one chassis and run the same car but uh Roger let them choose whichever one they wanted that year that is interesting this is the 2003 Indie winter Jilla feren car so uh right now we're warming the car up I'll kind of walk you guys through and show you what we do for that so we've got uh our oil heater here it's plugged into regular 110 power and what that does is that heats up the oil tank which is right here um and once that gets up to a certain temperature around 55° C uh we'll bump the engine over and uh circulate that hot oil through the engine and then if you come around to the other side we've also got the water water heating up so this is our water heater right here and we have hot water coming out of here and it's going through our expansion tank at the top through the system through the block uh and it's coming out this upper radiator line right here so if you actually feel this line it's got some heat to it um and basically it'll just keep doing that until the water is also at about 55 C uh then at that point just clip a couple switches and fire her up is that a unit the same unit that would have been used on this car or is this a more current one this is a more current unit um I mean the same concept they would have either had this unit in particular it has uh its own Reservoir in it um and that that's probably a little bit more new style in the past they would have just cycled what water was already in the system and heated that up so but basically the same idea how often do you have to run these things or go through them to make sure they're still in running shape yeah you know we try and do every couple years just to make sure they're ready to go for events like this and whatever else they might might get asked to do so um yeah I mean it's usually like a a couple year thing you know we'll fire these cars up wake them up per se and make sure all the systems are good and they're ready to run you make a pretty simple process sound really interesting I'm glad no I mean it's it really it's just it's heating the oil heating the water uh you know the reason we do that is cuz the tolerances on this engine are really tight and we want to make sure that it's you know the hotter it is is things expand and they sit into the right tolerances where they'd be running so you know we fire it up cold the oil's thick there's a lot of other issues that could happen if if you do it that way so you know we take all the precautions by warming everything up and and making sure that it's it's it's as good as it can be we put the starter on the back and and actually fire it over obviously this car doesn't have an onboard starter so just like modern day Indie Cars they have the starting gear in the rear man this is a 1964 Watson Roadster driven by AJ Foy one in 64 it was the last Roadster that won the Indianapolis 500 the starter motor is out of a b29 bomber really and they used to open up the bay do should have dropped it should have dropped the J and and [Music] [Applause] fuel first right what fuel first uh that's actually a right front brake shut off that's right front right front brake shut off right front BR come on it's like a spr car you know to turn in a little better the fuel valve is down on your right hand side the car behind us the Lotus it was pretty much what came out fragile type car where this is big and robust and the bad thing about these cars is that they hurt a lot of drivers and and killed a lot of drivers also and in 1955 11 of the 33 drivers that raced in the Indianapolis 500 perished jeez and so but this car was built by Watson in gardinia a lot of the hardware from these cars the guys with had just gotten out of World War II too and they worked at lock heat and and so they would take the Fasteners home and put them on these cars and build them um this I don't know about this particular chassis but I know a lot of Watson's chassis they would tack them together in gardinia put them in a truck take them to um Lockheed the guy would weld them up put them in the oven normalize them and then bring them back the next day you explain what that means normalizing a chassis is when you when you weld 4130 parts of it get brittle so you're trying to make everything back to being normalized to where not one part of the car is brittle not one part part of the car is too hard so you're trying to take the parts that did not see heat from the welding to the point where they also saw the same heat so it's equal again exactly okay that makes sense and then this body was built in um California in Los Angeles at Cal medals the spindles are built by International Harvester really the brakes the brakes these are hellbrand brakes Lobster brakes cuz they look like a lobster back but they came from goodye from airplanes and then Ted went and Reid them but these spindles were off of a a a one ton International Harvester truck that's cool shaft over here to start it it's a 66 Pline that's also what the shaft is for for between the transmission and the um rear end and it had these couplings so there's a coupling in the back at the transmission at the rear end and then there's a cou a coupling that slides at the transmission is that like a PTO shaft from a tractor or something yeah yeah this transmission is a Model A transmission came out of a model a car or truck and then when hbr he had he had these cast these the Bell House and the transmission are both cast magnesium and then he also did the um the steering gear and the steering gear it has worm gears in it you can take them and and turn them around and change the gears and then it can be a left steer car right steer cars were all asphalt cars left steer cars were all dirt cars why was that the way that the geometry work for them I I honestly don't know um this car the motor has been turned around see the header comes out the left side on this car yeah so whatever side the the header is the steering is opposite if you look at the kosma car the steering is on the left side and and exhaust is out of the right side that was they used back before the um the Roadster showed up they would use these cars at at dirt tracks and at uh Indianapolis Trenton Milwaukee bill vukovich when he showed up with the fuel injection special was the first car to ever race with this conventional style shock on it and was the first car to ever win with this style shot holes drilled for like some arrow for his hands okay for your hands yeah so your hands get air on them you know those go to his feet this probably goes to his butt you know um this is over Center um tank that they used in aircraft also we've got our 19391 1940 Indianapolis 500 winner this is still to this day the only fully Italian built car to win the Indie 500 it's got a supercharged inline 8 Maserati and this was a Grand Prix car so it was not a you know Indie 500 built car but wilver Shaw saw the performance and so of the Grand Prix circuit tracks over in Europe and went to uh Bole the team owner and said if you get me this car I guarantee we'll win the race he almost won three races in a row with this um if it wasn't for a wire wheel collapsing in 41 [Music] but you can see Maserati stamped their their logo everywhere on the gearbox I'm sure you saw on the valve covers here as well it's just very very elegant chassis very elegant design is a benzen Italian for fuel on so they had to put the English translation there I'm guessing know how to work it either that or it's a brand name oh see oia that must be oil benzen must be fuel cuz that's on the gauge there too and you can see in comparison to the rasers that came a few years later the drivetrain going straight underneath the driver oh yeah I'm on my way to speaking Italian now I just look at some cars and you can look at this and just yeah so when I run out of gas somewhere I could be like benzen and they'll know they'll know I'm stuck how many times have you taken your vehicle somewhere to get something fixed and they tell you what's wrong with it 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can clear them and see if they come back then you know the problem is real whether you want to attempt to repair yourself or take it to someone else after that is different but the diagnosis can save you a lot of money just click the link in the description and use my code Stapleton to get 15% off your Carly order and inline Motors were kind of the uh the staple of the time um the back yeah yeah yeah stamped in there I mean just the the time it had to take to say you know what we're we're going to make sure that we put this you know all over the car yeah and where does the steering shaft go that's so it goes looks like it goes straight into the back of the head but where's the mechanism that actually gets that motion to the wheel so I want to figure that out so the control arm goes in between it looks like it's got a it's got an arm coming off this way but I'm afraid to touch the steering wheel to see if it makes that move here turn the wheel a little bit okay it comes out of there goes to this this pitman arm thing here and there's a big long Rod like a Sprint car kind of hidden under that thing look how big the spark plugs are these are beefy Sparkles they're huge I wonder if those were uh harvested from some type of military airplane engine [Music] application runs on a blend of fuel back then they mix methanol and gasoline and the formula for that is a 50/50 blend with a of acetone added in uh we raised a car with a with a fuel mix when we were in England in Goodwood and we didn't have any acet so luckily the guy next to us daughter had a nail salon down the street so we got a lemon scented uh nail polish remover which is basically acetone put that in there and the whole weekend it smelled like that smell like lemon poppy this is Mitch saon how you doing man nice to meet you yeah we're going to fire this dumpster up and yeah I want to hear it oh okay are you firing it up like right now the motor is built and designed to be run at 50 52° timing so to get it you don't bre starter shafts and block up starters there's a retarder switch down here on the dash this was this was Factory back in' 63 and what it does is it retards this timing box 20° so when you're actually cranking the motor it's hitting at 30° in advance and as soon as it CR as soon as it hits you let go the and then starts running at 50 50° that's a that's a lot yeah that's a lot that's a lot it's in the manual it's in the man this was in the restoration shop when we were here last time right yes this is the one that wasn't done yet this was high centered there for a long time we had to cut it off the stands and thrown onto what fuel do it run on this is a g race gas okay they did that so they made this car on gas the big thing they wanted was they wanted the uh they wanted to they get better mileage on the gas um you get almost two one on gas to to alcohol fuel on on switch crank bit crank [Music] [Music] [Music] we have the 1914 500 winner the Dage and CJ you worked on this one primarily correct the radiator was in such bad shape on it when they found it they ended up having to have the original company in France uh make remake the radiator that's pretty neat that the radiator is built to be the grill it it is like looks like the grill Y and you'll see this as a common practice just drilling holes to lighten it's also a 5-speed does it have OverDrive no well it's pretty fast for in its day I if you own this you could do highway speeds in it just fine wouldn't break so well cuz mechanical braks but um five speeds were unheard of back then it just wasn't a thing it what's with that shift pattern you go first and you got to go all the way to the bottom left to go to Second yep so Dage actually called their first gear an emergency gear and it was only for it's so torquey you really you don't need first gear a whole lot but that's an interesting it's you know I mean they always did things just a little bit different than the status quo and you put the new uh heat coil on the exhaust on this one right yeah I took the asbest off of it there no asbestos on it anymore well probably is in the clch somewhere great Linings but what are the little dials for on the so these These are friction shocks so these are actually a damp damp Nerf shock whatever you want to call it you can actually adjust how stiff or firm they are yeah there is is that how they you can tell the stiffness is the little dial there if you can read French you could uh read what those say which I passed French for in college I couldn't tell you anything on this car and that's the 54 dirt car correct second place I think it is we've got the offie SE going so we've seen an offen Houser in the front engine roadster and one of its final forms that's naturally aspirated in the front of a car we've seen it in the back of a car turbocharged smaller displacement and now we have an earlier version in a dirt car so dirt cars actually have a pretty rich history at Indianapolis and uh in the early 50s they were quite successful uh dirt cars won in 1951 and in 19 19 52 uh youngest driver in Indie history Troy Rutman won in 1952 and an agajanian upright dirt car but they all had offen Houser Motors as well naturally aspirated inline 4 cylinder um did you say rotman yeah toy Rutman is that is that really to Joe Rutman the natar guy uh I wouldn't be surprised I need to double check that but yeah that'll be that'll be a fact check thing this is the one Andy's going to drive today right yeah yeah so he's going to come in here shortly Mario will get a seat fit in this okay here we go [Music] where chain no suit no helmet just he's just vibing he got his sunglasses on he looks extra cool yeah did you see how hyped he got when he heard it start oh yeah it was that was cute that's got to like do something to him it even made the hair on my arm stand up just seeing him pull out of there like I got to see that happen yeah I'll work on that I'll work on that yeah does have tread on him when he left let me turn off we get a lot of the the retired drivers to come in and drive these things cuz it's a good time for everybody but the the size of the seats is so different in these old cars and like leg room and everything so we'll have to have everybody come in see if they're comfortable can you reach the shift knob are your knees in the way of the steering wheel that sort of thing so who we determine drives what is really dependent on can you fit in it yeah so I know like like Mitch and I would probably have a hard time fitting in a lot of these especially these dirt cars um don't know which one maybe maybe that one there's nowhere you can put your legs out theide if you need to that one maybe the Dage yeah that thing's a tank prob probably this one the roers have a little bit more room just by their nature didn't Dan gurnie drive that one or is that not the Dan gurnie car Dan gurnie drove that and what boggles my mind is is he was taller than me I'm 6'2 he was 6'3 and he fit into that tiny little tub and the the interesting thing about the lotuses is that they are they're not a two-frame chass they're they're aluminum monoco so there's even less room in there because you're essentially sitting in a tub of fuel you've got fuel on both sides of you so it's just a really compact space that you have to fit your rear end into we have the 1909 Buick and we'll run through these real quick so this never racing the n500 but it did compete in events predating the n500 here at Indianapolis this was driven by Louis Chevrolet um and and Buick became obviously a kind of household name in the automotive industry here we got ly St James in the Louis Chevrolet car she was just at the Mustang 60th anniversary in Charlotte and I'm going to give her the car with dry roted tires let her go and wooden Wheels a Buick actually won the first longdistance event here at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in 1910 with Bob Burnham um so they they established their brand fairly quickly nonskid tread design is advertising and this also has similar suspension adjustments on the rear here on the dampeners similar to the Dage heart for shock I can read that one and that that probably really came into play because this would have been racing on the crushed rock sprayed down by a layer of tar um and the surface broke up and became quite treacherous um so that's when Carl fiser 1910 basically was told by a lot of the competitors hey this surface is unsafe we can't race on it especially the motorcycle guys in 1909 and 1910 so these thin tires were cutting through the surface and the tar and breaking it up especially with the weight of these cars you know weighing a couple tons most of the time or not a couple tons but weighing close to a ton you know this is probably a this is probably a 2,000lb car but the weight's all concentrated on these four points so bricks became the solution um Carl Fischer decided to spend a lot of money to have 3.2 million bricks pave the track and uh it became known as the Brickyard here that's how we got our name sake those bricks a lot of people don't know this are actually still underneath the track surface so they've stood the test of time to the point they're the foundation that the asphalt's laid on top of so when people refer to you know the Brickyard we're still racing over the top of bricks we just have a few layers of asphalt by this time over the top of them I didn't get the chance to say anything earlier but notice the positive camber on this Louis Chevrolet car it's a leaf spring car it has no Amber curve is just up and down I guess this was before they figured out that uh having it the other way actually helped you yeah maybe there was a reason for that with these skinny little tires and the ruts they would go through or something it's I don't really know doesn't look like it has a any Caster maybe just a hair they didn't know what they didn't know pretty cool though yeah it is okay here we go w [Applause] [Music] [Music] Best For Last yeah that sounds really good like hey Poppy can you measure those adders for [Music] me I will link the video to the IMs Museum in the description here that we did with Luke last summer a couple of these cars are in there but most of them are ones that were not featured in this event which is pretty cool and you get to see what the museum looked like before its renovation that is currently happening right now if you're an indie car fan you're new to this channel welcome we love history here whether it's NASCAR Indie Car sports car heck we've even done stuff about hydroplane racing you can find all that on the channel hit thumbs up on this video so you see more of it hit subscribe you can ring the bell all that does when you open YouTube it should show you when we post something new but just in case you can go to the channel page and look for it if any of you guys have any leads or know of former indie car cart IRL shops that we should go seek 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Published: Wed May 29 2024