Idaho Murders: 5 People Who Knew Accused Student Murderer Bryan Kohberger

I used to be friends with Brian coburger during my middle and high school years and then before anyone comes at me and says that I'm just running for clout I'm not I have pictures that I will show you I have screenshots that I will show you I have fearable pictures than that I showed you I went to school with the kid I was friends with him I wouldn't make something like this up I am just an absolute Shopper we review the accounts of people who know accuse killer Brian coburger could their interactions with him tell us something about why he allegedly murdered four University of Idaho students welcome to sidebar presented by long crime I'm Jesse Weber foreign let's talk about Brian coburger this is the man who's been charged with four counts of first-degree murder and felony burglary for allegedly stabbing to death for University of Idaho students I'm talking about the killings of 21 year old Kaylee Gonzalez 21 year old Madison Logan 20 year old Zana kernodle and 20 year old Ethan Chapin whose bodies were found in their off-campus home on November 13th now that there is a face to this crime or maybe I should say an alleged face something has happened and it's something that happens in almost all of the cases that we cover people who know a Suspect come forward and that is what is happening here people who know Brian coburger have started speaking out and that's what we want to talk about right now we're going to go over five people or maybe I should say five accounts of people who know Brian coburger and their descriptions their interactions with him are very important why because we still don't know why he did this what motivated him what drove a 28 year old PhD grad student studying criminology at Washington State University to suddenly murder four college students who as of right now seem like complete strangers to him there's been no established connection between co-burger and the victims which just makes this so much more eerie it doesn't make sense now I say this again I'll say it I said it before I'll say it again allegedly did this he is innocent until proven guilty but putting that to the side we are still going to review the accounts of these people and understand a little bit more now I have gone on record and I have said that even though a lot of information has been disclosed in the probable cause affidavit the affidavit from police that lists out the evidence that led them to a Resco Burger the DNA the surveillance footage the potential eyewitness in the house the car the cell phone records I believe that there is a lot more that either is known to investigators that hasn't been disclosed or that there is more that will be learned between now and an eventual trial of Brian coburger and one of those critical pieces of evidence that usually comes out later on is the testimony of people who met or interacted with him now I'm not saying that anyone can just testify about Brian Coburg or at a trial There are rules of course about what someone can testify to and for what purpose is it relevant is it overly prejudicial but at this point we are still in the investigation stage we are still in the learning stage police are asking people who have information on Brian coburger to come forward as this investigation continues and I can't tell you how many times statements that are made by a defendant either before crime is committed or especially after a crime is committed how many times those end up haunting a defendant at a trial particularly if they say something while in jail to fellow inmates many defense cases have been derailed by loose lips in jail so of course the question will be has coburger said anything or will he say anything to anyone while locked up and he's seemingly going to be there for a while because as we reported on Long crime we covered coburger status hearing where he we learned he will remain in the Lata County Jail without bail as he awaits a preliminary hearing now on June 26th so you do understand and Ms Taylor has represented here that she's advised you of your right to have or fully discussed with you the right that you have which is to have your preliminary hearing within 14 days of the date that you initially appear before this court as you recall when I advise you of your rights that hearing is a probable cause hearing or the state has to establish it more likely than not these felony offenses were committed and you were the one that committed the felony offenses if you waive your right to a speedy preliminary hearing it does not mean that you're giving up your right to have a preliminary hearing it simply means that you would not be able to come back and challenge that the state did not present probable cause within 14 days do you understand yes have you had enough time to speak with Ms Taylor about your decision to waive your right to a speedy preliminary hearing yes do you need any additional time to do so no then I will ask at this time as to the five counts felony counts that were charged in the criminal complaint that was filed on December 29th of 2022 are you waiving your right to a speedy preliminary hearing and agreeing that that hearing can be held outside the 14-day period yes okay so let's get into the people that know Coburg and we're going to start with Josh Ferraro so Josh Ferraro actually went to school with Brian coburger as the news broke about coburger's arrest Ferraro went on Tick Tock and explained this guys what's going on Josh Ferraro here um I went to college with Brian coburger I've been looking at his picture all day I've been saying the name all day in my head and I was like I know this guy I know this guy and then he went to the sales University I'm like I know I had a class with him I know it I know it the name sounds so familiar and he looked very familiar but I just couldn't I couldn't put a point on it and he lost so much weight when I knew him he was a pudgy guy he was really friendly he led my biology project it at DeSales University and he was a pretty smart guy and he was interested in criminal justice and I remember having classes with him and for this guy to do that is beyond me I mean he was a really nice guy and he does not look like that nice guy anymore I mean the guy that I'm seeing on the news looks like a cold-blooded killer the guy that I went to college with that dude was nice he was a nice guy we studied criminal justice together he was a really nice guy and I'm devastated and heartbroken that I knew this guy and that he did this I'm devastated for those families I never thought that it would be someone close to home from the Lehigh Valley at sales University and here is the biology project and from 2018 we are studying daphnia and how it there he is and he led this project 11 16 18. now I want to make it clear I this was not a close friend this was a guy I did a project with and my first impression of him was he's a little odd but he's a nice guy you know um does not stand out but you know is it is it he Blended in like he was a pretty normal guy and he does not look like a normal guy now he looks so skinny and so threatening it's I'm shocked and this is not uncommon in these kinds of cases right that shock you know someone that's accused of committing a heinous crime it comes out of left field we see it all the time on the trials that we cover on Long crime people cannot believe that the defendant is accused of doing what he or she is accused of doing but what is very interesting is how he explains that coburger was this nice normal guy so as we try to understand what may have led coburger to allegedly do this you have to wonder was co-berger always harboring these feelings or did something happen was there a change was there a snap the weight loss is notable too because there have been reports from people who went to high school with coburger that he was overweight and that he was bullied but then dramatically lost a ton of weight and he doesn't look the same as he used to and it's been reported that coburger was a drug addict back in the day that he abused heroin in fact a former friend of co-burgers also took to tick tock to talk about her experience with the accused killer called me and asked me about the the murders I didn't know where she was going with it until she said that it was Brian coburger and naturally I freaked out and called about eight of my friends um my brother was really good friends with him my other friend Brandon was really good from friends with him I'm gonna have a picture of him with him um on the green screen as well I'm shaking still um but anyway let me let me show you this is back this is Brandon the one I was talking about it's his wife Brianna and that's me this was back in 2017. obviously that's Brian um still has the Dead face that it's thighs I don't know um but when I spoke to him back in 2017 he was clean um he was a heavy heroin user uh back in high school it was just nice to see the kid clean up and at that time he said he was doing security detail I believe it was out of school is what he told me he was like he was better obviously that wasn't true here's another picture from a party that we had at Brandon's house that's Brian there he used to be a bigger kid as well um but again that's him and then at the same wedding I'm here but he's back there he was out sitting at the same table as me and my mother um but he is back there enjoying a drink I was sitting right next to him we talked he seemed fine my mom sent me the old school yearbook that was him Brian coburger that's him he went to Pleasant Valley I graduated with I think my friend Chris for a year um older sorry younger than me this is when he um nonchalantly decided to make me drive him around the Poconos for heroin and I had no idea I thought I was just doing a nice D because he needed something and it turns out that he was getting heroin now like Mr Ferraro it is important in this case for her to show the receipt she's showing the evidence that she actually knows co-burger with pictures and text messages text messages because in high profile cases like these there are those who might claim that they know him and they really don't but so far these are people who said that they only knew him as a nice kid maybe he had some problems he looked like he had a normal look maybe he had these dead eyes but they knew you know they said that they never said or did anything to indicate to them that he would commit a quadruple homicide so that brings me now to someone else someone who had a strange encounter with co-burger before the killings a woman has come forward and indicated that she went on a date with Brian coburger now this is 26 year old Now 26 year old Haley Willett and she told The Daily Beast that she went on a date with coburger in 2015 when she was in college they met on Tinder they went to the movies and then after the movies according to her things got weird she says he drove her back to her dorm and she says quote he started being really pushy about coming up to her room so she lets him up and said that while he was quote very polite and nice on the date he quote completely changed gears she said quote definitely felt uncomfortable when he decided he needed to wait outside of the bathroom for me so she ends up pretending like she's throwing up in the bathroom and he ultimately leaves and then later on in the night he messages her that she has good birthing hips and they never speak again I was so lucky that I was never her I was never raped um by anyone I went on a Tinder date with um however it could have been me um I could have been the one heard um I could have been killed I could have been raped and I did not take any precautions to prevent that from happening to me so I am very fortunate that none of that happened to me obviously her account is eerie and she describes very odd behavior and look I don't think that this is someone who would testify in coburger's trial I don't think that what she has to say is particularly relevant that ties to the killings why this is interesting is because it goes back to Coburg or psyche you see according to reporting by several outlets coburger was bullied in high school by girls and that he would act creepy towards women in fact NBC News reported that according to the owner of a brewery which coburger had frequented female employees would complain about it he would sit by himself and he would observe and he would watch and he would ask women who were at the bar who they were there with and where they lived and if they refused to engage with him he would allegedly get visibly upset now I will tell you I am no criminal profiler in any sense but in a case where you have three young women savagely murdered along with a boyfriend of one of them and the cell phone evidence indicating that he was near the crime scene 12 times prior to the night of the murder and maybe was stalking them you have to wonder did he have some particular hatred towards women an obsession with something a trigger for him if you go back to the probable cause affidavit it states that DM who is one of the surviving roommates thought that she heard crying coming from kernodle's room and then she said she heard a male voice saying quote it's okay I'm going to help you we don't know if this was what was actually said we don't know if this was even co-burger but now that we are learning more of his backstory and the way he allegedly behaved towards women taking this statement is true that does make you wonder what may have happened here I am completely shocked but rotten hell if it was you so okay now let's get into the people that not only know Brian coburger but those that have come forward and said he either made strange comments to them or acted differently after the killings first we have a neighbor of co-burgers who spoke with CBS News now this neighbor claims that only a few days after the killings when all of us had very limited information about the crime co-burger allegedly quote asked if this neighbor had heard about the murders and then co-burger allegedly said quote yeah it seems like they have no leads seems like it was a crime of passion so of course the question is why would co-burger say that why would he say that at that point making conclusions based on information that maybe only the killer would know now you could say well this story went viral everyone Across the Nation was following it everyone was coming up with theories as to what happened even with a lack of information especially people online so is it a big deal that coburger said this I would say in and of itself probably no but do not be surprised if this neighbor is subpoenaed to testify in an upcoming trial I think you couple that statement with the other evidence the DNA the cell phone the car the surviving roommate account statements like these could add up to be very bad for Brian coburger just part of the prosecution's case this is important because as I mentioned defendants slip up they say things that they shouldn't say they do things that they shouldn't do they make statements at the time that could be benign but now looking back could be highly incriminating and that is what I believe the prosecution needs next in this case in fact the prosecution is looking for more information about co-burger in building their case against him did he say something did he do something in fact here is Lata County prosecutor Bill Thompson asking for help from the public after police arrested coburger this is not the end of this investigation in fact this is a new beginning you all now know the name of the person who has been charged with these offenses please get that information out there please ask the public anyone who knows about this individual to come forward call the tip line report anything you know about him to help the investigators and eventually our office and the court system understand fully everything there is to know about not only the individual but what happened and why and by the way Anjanette levy my co-host here on cybar actually spoke with another one of co-burger's neighbors too did you ever hear anything up there or anything like that yeah we we heard you know we heard loud sound Theory the night yeah a lot of many times yeah not just one sentence so it seemed like he's a night person not do a lot of things during the day but during 19 years yeah right to like like clean the floor sometimes it's vacuum it's very loud sound yeah yeah it's it's that that's the thing you know I I keep telling the journalists and reporters that that is what you heard from the App Store upstairs yeah but it was just he was a night person vacuuming or whatever yeah yeah and yeah even sometimes like in a bathroom wash and very late it's a not that not like what the racket over time yeah very late night these kind of yeah so we can't stop yeah and many times did you ever ask him to quiet down or anything I actually wanted but I didn't try yeah once when I met him we just see Hello I I just want to see could you please keep it quiet because we'll work out during night and have kids on it but I didn't do that I think maybe because he doesn't move to moved in like August to maybe any time to get used to Sure in keeping with this theme of people who know co-burger let's finish it off with his classmates at Washington State University so I'll say this is not you know the fifth person to come out but this is more a fifth account we'll talk about so the Idaho Statesman interviewed two classmates and they indicated that they had several classes with co-burger and explained how coburger would talk during every class he would participate he was very vocal he was social Ben Roberts a criminal justice grad student said quote he seemed gregarious and Alco that was really the only impression that I got he was making the rounds he definitely seemed a little more eager than some of the others that were present to go around and introduce himself another classmate who chose to remain anonymous explained quote Brian only talked about his interest in forensic psychology he was an incredibly strong student and talked during class every time he sat front and center and was not hiding or tucking back in the back or tucking back in the back they go on to say he was right there in the middle of it now this is consistent with what we know about Brian coburger and that he had this interest in criminology in fact in the probable cause affidavit it indicated that coburger applied for an internship with the police department and also he curiously posted a Reddit survey that asked participants to provide information to quote understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision making when committing a crime now there has been speculation and there have been theories that his interest in crime and murder and the feeling and psychology behind it is maybe what drove him to commit these killings perhaps he wanted to know what it felt like to kill obviously we don't know but the observations from his classmates May further that narrative now here is what is key according to this classmate of co-burgers this social talkative energetic guy quote became completely silent when it came to discussing the Idaho murders I could be wrong but again don't be surprised if these classmates end up testifying against Brian coburger in a larger trial and don't also be surprised as time goes on if more people come forward to discuss their interactions with Brian coburger as well and that's all we have for you here on sidebar everybody thank you so much for joining us please subscribe on Apple podcast Spotify YouTube wherever you get your podcast I'm Jesse Weber I'll speak to you next time [Music]

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Published: Mon Jan 16 2023