Ice Cube on the rise & fall of NWA, beef with Eazy-E and 'No Vaseline' | EPISODE 5 | CLUB SHAY SHAY

so how old were you when you joined the group and how did the nwa come about i was uh probably about 17 uh when i when i joined nwa um we we were all in different groups uh everybody everybody was out in a different group everybody else was doing their own thing so how did you guys decide to come together um well group that that dre was in called directing crew dream yellow was in that group right and they were kind of like they was making the most noise in l.a okay out of all of us the world class world-class wrecking crew so lonzo who ran the wrecking crew really wouldn't let dre do the hardcore records that he he really started to want to do right so so me and dre start doing mixtapes and i would do the hardcore wraps on the mixtapes talking about the neighborhood well easy which is dre's old friend got one of the tapes tracked dre down and was like yo you know i've been hustling on the street i don't want to flip some of this money so i want to start i want to i want to have a label and i want to call it ruthless records okay and so he had these groups that he was trying to get on rufus records but but he asked me to write a song from i wrote a song called boys in the hood and the group didn't want to do it because they was from new york so dre convinced easy to do the song so easy ended up doing boys in the hood the song right and he was like we should do an all-star group this is what easy said we should do all-star group we'll take the best out of you know i'll be easy we take dream yellow out of the wrecking crew we'll take cube out of uh i had a group called cia take cube out of that and then we're gonna you know we just do the side group hardcore records you know and then y'all can go back and do you know slow jams and whatever y'all was doing so we ended up doing that record and man it just started to pick up momentum and it was just sounding better and better and better so we all ended up quitting our groups and just stayed with our you know with us forming this all-star group and uh one day they came to pick me up and easy was like what we gonna call you know he was saying what we're gonna call the group and uh i said what we're gonna call it he said nwa i'm like what that mean when he told me what it meant i was like ah yeah we're about to start some ish right now so you know from there we just was tight and we just was just figuring out what did we need to do to start making noise in the hip-hop scene did you know that when you joined this group you guys were going to become what you became and that you guys are really the originators of the gangster rap the hardcore did you know that at the time not at all um at the time you know we thought those records were gonna be they had a section in the record store where they would play all the dirty comedy records like richard pryor right uh you could get a eddie murphy record over there red fox it was this dirty rapper by the name of blowfly dolomite you can get all them kind of records so we thought our record was going to be over there in that dirty section so when they started to put it out front where all the regular hip-hop was and people just started buying it we knew we had a style that that was unique that was different um but you know there was other people who who was dibbling and dabbling in in what i would call gangsta rap you know you had ice t out there right um schooly d uh he had a song called psk uh and then you had you know boogie down production since i did a record called criminal minded that he's loved that record so it was a few people who had doubled and dabbled in that style right i mean that became iced tea signature style thing ice tea and nwa were the first two real jump offs and then the ghetto boys came through right now and it was other groups but but yeah you know that's kind of how it jumped off and that's how it started so anytime you have success and there's a group eventually they're going to be some bickering they're going to be some fighting they're going to be some issues who's getting what who's doing what why did nwa break down fall apart um i think it's really because you know jerry heller who was the manager at the time was really uh loyal to easy you know easy was his guy you know we were like uh you know just kind of the group you know you know and and so i just think he underestimated what we really meant to the whole you know uh success of ruthless records right so he just was and easy you know um was learning the business basically at the same time we were when it comes to me him and wren we're all learning at the same time even though he's older and dre and yellow knew the business a little bit more but nobody was experts you know right right people leaned on jerry to you know make things right and it just was a uh you know one or two things that just didn't smell right and you know when somebody starts to you know lie and there's no reason to it just makes you suspicious okay and then you know the more you look the more you find and um you know i confronted them and they they'd rather you know make me the enemy and uh instead of rectifying the situation and so i left so when you you confronted jerry heller the rest of the group turned against you well jerry talked to easy right and easy you know he was the head of everything so once easy was against me you know jerry convinced easy i was a troublemaker so they easily started to talk to everybody and then you know pretty soon i was the odd man out at the end of the day but they didn't kick you out and he left real fast i left i left because i was like this ain't gonna work they're not gonna fix it you know all he had to do was fix it and you wait what did jerry hailer need to do to make it right by cube um i think he was you know at the end of the day uh he was trying to get me to sign a contract that my lawyer never read okay so to me that's bad business and it's a bad contract right you don't want my lawyer to even look at it and you know i have a lawyer he kept ducking me and saying you know i sent it out senate i sent it uh before i had the lawyer before i told him i had the lawyer i had the lawyer but i didn't tell you i was just trying to get the contract so i told him i said just send it to my mama i thought he was gonna think all right send it to her shane i know what you're looking at they're gonna sign it and i'm gonna get it back but he wouldn't even send it to her i'm like man damn you won't even send it to her right you know um so we knew something was fishy like he can't if he can't send us the contracts he definitely can't sign nothing were you the only one in the group that had a lawyer outside of ruthless record lawyer i think so but i had offered that whatever my lawyer tell me i'ma tell you guys and you know so y'all my lawyers like y'all y'all don't have to get a lawyer if you don't want to i would advise you to right but but um i'll tell y'all what he telling me so i would you know talk with ren a lot me and ran the same age we would talk a lot who's the youngest in the group right and uh so ryan knew everything that uh that my lawyer was telling me which was don't sign nothing don't sign nothing and so when it was time to sign i was like i can't sign that and it was the best move i ever did you lead the group you strike out on your own the diss track did they dish you first or did you write no vaseline yeah they dissed me on a record called a hundred miles and running it was like an ep that they released after straight out of compton it was a it was a dis but it wasn't it wasn't like heavy-handed it was like a line like a little line so okay i gave it back to him i gave it back to him a little bit on a jacket for beats right at the end of jacket for beats it's one line where i mentioned um 100 miles i'll have you 100 miles running right and so when they did uh their next record they dissed me real good you know what i mean they call me benedict arnold all kind of all kind of names uh so i don't know whatever okay they diss you on the line you kind of dissed them back online did you think it was over okay you said yours i said man i'm done let's move on you thought it was over yeah because i still liked them dudes you know they were still you know i had a problem with easy and jerry but i still i'm still cool with dre and yella and ryan right and dlc and layla and autumn dudes that was still hanging around so i was just surprised that they would like take it to you so they dissed you heavy i mean they came with it you like i got to come back hard how long did it take you to write no vaseline it took me 90 minutes 90 minutes 90 minutes so that so in other words that been brewing you knew you knew they were gonna come back if it only took you 90 minutes you knew they were gonna come back so you've been plotting you've been lying and waiting no no it wasn't like that it was uh i was i was mad i had build-up right um i was on a boat the the one of the heads of priority records um he took me on a boat because you know i had went in the air with a bat and and like tore up the company like right so um we was trying to smooth things out so he was saying i want to play this for you i want to be the first one to play it for you and he played me to this that they did to me but we still had two or three hours on this boat which i didn't want to be on no more i was like man take me back i'm ready to ride a ride take me back so i had like two or three hours of build up so by the time i got to my room to my equipment panning pad it just all came out and i got interrupted a few times so it probably would i probably wrote it faster my sister didn't interrupt me a few times you know what to do hit the subscribe button to become an official member of club shayshay where we always do something before tucson

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Length: 12min 51sec (771 seconds)

Published: Wed Oct 21 2020