I Tried The New 'RT Overdrive' Mode In 'Cyberpunk 2077'...

so it's a nice Wednesday right now I'm just playing some cyberpunk for fun but you know what it's really chilly in Colorado right now it's like you know 20 degrees outside it's like 50 degrees down in the studio space I'm a little bit chilly I mean to put it otherwise like I'm cutting through my shirt you know now of course I could just like turn on the heat or something in the house and warm up this space that way but that wouldn't be very much fun why don't we do something a little less practical you see they just updated cyberpunk 2077 with brand new settings to be used experimentally experimental graphical features are basically code for this is going to melt your computer because it's not practical to run but it looks really pretty and I just so happen to have an RTX 4090 in my gaming PC here from Apex gaming PCs I'll tell you more about them a little bit later in the video but for now all you need to know is that this thing is an absolute Powerhouse and so I figured we could put this game through its Paces with this new update for one by cranking the settings all the way to the Max and then seeing just how badly it causes everything to run already look at look at that my mouse cursor is going very slowly you can see in the top left I'm getting nine frames per second again on a 40 90. this is gonna be fun I can already tell but you know what let's get a baseline let's drop this all the way back down to medium where I was before because I want to see what the game actually runs like on this Hardware to begin with and as you can tell it looks pretty good even by this standard I mean this is medium settings and I feel like it's a looker I mean the lighting is great the ambient lighting's great Reflections are pretty good sure there's screen space Reflections you can tell because when I look down the reflections go away but when I look up they reappear and if I go over and I take a car you can see that frame rates are really good we're just under 200 frames by by the way this is rendering in Native 4K with of course a little bit of dlss to help things out but this is running on medium very very pretty for medium settings I mean I'll be real this is one of those games that even on Lower tier Hardware if you can get decent frame rates it it's a looker man oh look at this this is crazy but if I stop right here and if I go into settings I can turn on Ray tracing now we all know Ray tracing is pretty standard this is something you can use for uh improving like Reflections usually it makes like glossy areas actually reflect light more realistically uh mirrors will actually reflect things off of them or water will reflect things under a bridge even though you can't see it directly it just makes things look a little bit more realistic and if I turn that on you can see with dlss on we are running down around 130 frames but this is the LSS end frame generation so we're giving this every benefit of the doubt but you can see in the reflection of the car it's actually actually reflecting the signs that are above us on that advertising billboard you can actually see it in the roof of the car in real time like that's that's pretty crazy and this is the perk of Ray tracing it can make things just look that much more realistic it's it's a looker it's really really pretty but what is overdrive Ray tracing or as it's also known as path Ray tracing well it's even more insane than this as you can see in this little Showcase Video that Nvidia put out showcasing what this Tech can do what overdrive or path tracing allows you to do is to have actual Global illumination where a light source like this one is actually reflecting off of objects more realistically instead of just specific surfaces everything in the world is being treated the same if that didn't make sense this demonstration my digital Foundry will probably make things make a little bit more sense as you can see we have a yellow light in this scene and then the moment that they switch over to the overdrive Ray tracing mode that yellow light is a reflecting off of every object and you are even seeing it lighting the underside of the garbage can the back side of the wall in the shadow everything more realistically because the color of the light bouncing off of different objects affects the future interface that that light is going to encounter if that makes any sort of sense at all again the simplest way of putting this is that it just simply makes all Lighting in all of these games actually realistic not just the glass not just the mirrors not just those reflective surfaces but everything is treated realistically and as you would expect there is a major hit to Performance when you turn this type of thing on because in this scene that we're looking at here the only stuff being Ray traced is off of the particularly reflective surfaces such as the top of the car the puddles on the ground which you see are reflecting the eight up top you can see that and so it's only having to do the ray tracing for select areas of the frame whereas if we switch over to the overdrive Drive path tracing you're going to see some absolutely crazy differences in the lighting so let's do that now let's crank it to overdrive and as you can see by default I have all of the dlss stuff turned on but I want to show you just the difference between these if I go Ray tracing Ultra and I turn off frame generation and I turn off dlss completely just to see what the 4090 is capable of putting out by itself you can see once we're in the game itself we drop down to around 40 frames a second I would say it's certainly playable it's rendering natively 4K with Ray tracing I mean it looks really really good and though 40 frames is not my preference it's still very playable but you want to see what happens when we uh go into overdrive mode well we go over to overdrive we're going to turn off dlss and frame generation hit apply and we're gonna see what this does okay remember we run 40 frames before if I back out we drop all the way down to about 20. uh it's it's hanging right above 20 21 22 I would say oh 18 17 16 oh God I would say this is getting into unplayable territory call me a frame rate snob I don't care this is this is a little rough but again this is experimental this isn't meant to to be implemented in this way uh without dlss or some of those other Technologies helping it out so if we go into the settings and we turn that stuff on I would guess it becomes much more playable let's set it to Quality and turn or Auto and turn frame generation on and back out and all of a sudden we're up at 80 plus closer to 90 frames per second just with dlss and frame generation turned on that's absolutely crazy and I mean once we get moving you can see some of those passive effects so this is a very yellowy light of course you can see it bouncing down reflecting the underside of the car with that warm light instead of just a rasterized look the light changes to Red everything around it changes to a red Hue and if I go into settings then I turn this back down to say Medium you're going to see the change in different I mean right there night and day just look at that man that is crazy is it something that's like gonna totally change the way you play the game probably not but man when you see the side by side it makes you realize just how bad the lighting is by default that that rasterized lighting is just nothing compared to this though then again the rasterized lighting allows you to play it on Hardware that doesn't you know melt itself at Max clock speed so that's something let's get out on foot and actually look around and see what this is like I would say the the reflections on the water are still a little grainy but that's more just an artifact of dlss and if we look over here I mean it just looks crazy crazy good and again if I just do a freeze frame here and I swap the settings back down you're gonna notice just how different it looks it looks way way flatter it just doesn't look anywhere near as good or like if I go to these guys look at these guys okay let's just take this guy for example all of the NPCs in cyberpunk 2077 have a very very flat look to them they almost look like they're glowing by default and when we turn this on you're gonna see instantaneously more realistic skin the Shadows around their face are much more realistic and delicate and if we look into places like this you can see that it just looks way way better so like I mentioned this is something for the highest of the high-end Hardware I mean the exact phraseology they use is a technology preview that basically means that they're trying to make this game the next Crisis like can it run cyberpunk on overdrive mode in order to test whether or not the hardware is where it needs to be in order to like really compete on the high end and I mean you can see it's very very pretty but I would not consider this super practical even if we drop the settings down to very impressive Ray tracing Ultra and we back out and still see it looks very very good and we get like 60 frames instantaneously and then if we swap back you can see a difference especially in the reflections there and the quality of the lighting and the distance a little bit but for 99.99 of people it's probably not worth sacrificing so much performance but you know what that's kind of the point of all of this is that this is a really cool thing to experiment with but it's not very practical if we're being honest especially I'm bouncing between medium and and overdrive you can see a difference very very clearly and in that Nvidia showcase I mean you can see the difference between the real Global illumination overdrive lighting and when it's not implemented but again this is just like when it's cut side by side you'd hope to see a difference when you're playing the game and you're moving and running and shooting and gunning and driving and having a good time exploring you're not going to be thinking ah this is fun but it would be way better if I had Global illumination you know most people are not going to be saying that and again it just reinforces the idea that this is not actually built to be like the Mainstay uh version of the game that you're expected to use after all it's just a preview they want this to be something that creators and reviewers and journalists can use to compare performance and to push their Hardware to the Limit but the average gamer the everyday gamer uh should not be selling their car to get a 4090 to to have like more realistic Reflections like that you know I think we'll survive I know it's like oh it's easy for you to say Luke because you have that computer I yes I have this computer but I have this computer because like this is my job and because I have phenomenal Partners over at Apex gaming Apex gaming provides pre-built computers that are extremely well put together are optimized right out of the box look great and they don't break the bank either if you go to the link in the description box below you can select from one of our starter enhancer ultimate build outs but even from there you can go into customize and tweak it to your heart's content if you already have a GPU you want to use okay you don't need to upgrade that if you want to swap out Ram if you want to swap out CPUs if you want to swap it out however which way you can just do that quickly and easily it'll update the price for you in real time and it will give you estimations of how that computer will perform in a given game so you can see what you can expect in terms of performance and as I said I wouldn't recommend them if I didn't believe in in their service I've built all of my other gaming PCs in my life before this my streaming PC under the desk I built myself and actually uh just like two weeks ago on stream I had to spend the first two hours of stream on my phone streaming it that way because the streaming PC had broken down for some random reason and I had to unplug everything it was a whole thing however this Apex gaming built built from day one out of the box I haven't had to tweak anything it just works the cables are all managed phenomenally well and honestly when I'm making videos and I want to just be able to jump into a game and experiment and play it at the highest possible settings it's just nice to know that this was built by people who really know what they're doing who are passionate about it and who do this day in day out they know what to look for they know all the little tricks for cable management all of that goodness and so you know you're going to be getting a computer that's built by professionals that's just gonna work when it gets to your front door which is kind of what everybody wants at the end of the day check them out today at the link in the video description box below or in the pinned comment again Apex gaming PCs I wouldn't recommend them if I didn't believe in them and if I didn't think they were a great partner and I mean this is a living example of how great their computers are because I use it in all of my videos to test all of these games and play them for you in real time or over on stream uh I love it dearly and again if you're interested in a pre-built gaming PC go check them out the one thing I will say about this update that they've issued is that it seems to have broken most of my mods I had that like flying car mod that seems to no longer work when I try to boot the game with that I get a basically error message that tells me all of my files are corrupted and then when I disable the mod all of a sudden it starts working again so that's a thing but in terms of stability and performance it seems to be running really really well the game looks tremendous and glitches are far less common than they used to be which is also awesome we also have the first DLC for this coming probably the first and only DLC expansion coming for cyberpunk 2077 later this year which promises to be super super badass I mean they're showing Idris Elba Keanu Reeves is coming back there's going to be a lot of really cool stuff in it which I'm very excited for and while I have not really forgiven cdpr for what they did with the launch of this game because it was pretty bad I mean and they knew it was bad as well they they really did um hiding copies of the game from press until the last possible minute making it so reviewers couldn't share any footage of their own they had to use b-roll stuff like that they knew that they were selling a broken product to their customers and I'm not just gonna roll over and forgive them for that I I require a little bit more than some some updates and patches to add overdrive Ray tracing and path tracing frankly I just I I'm gonna need more but what I will say is that what they've done is pretty impressive it's still not the game I think we were promised back in the day but it's remarkable and frankly I think it's probably the most impressive showcase for what Modern Hardware uh from Nvidia and AMD can actually do I mean it's it's pretty crazy when you actually think about what's being done every frame with this Tech I mean it's absolutely wild and like if we actually go into combat oh these guys are very high level yeah okay well but again when you really think about everything that's happening each one of these lights is bouncing light around every object in this Frame to realistically calculate what that light does you can see that up there there's blue lights and so you see that light is going to bounce down off the floor of that landing and back up to reflect and light the upper area realistically if I go back to medium settings and I turn it off you see that that totally changes all of this is just lit with the basic Global illumination filler light and it just looks kind of terrible and we have some clipping there but when I go back to overdrive you can see it's all realistically lit there's no more random light there that shouldn't be there this is all actually paced off reflecting realistically it's little it's a small detail that not many people are going to care about but once you know what to look for and you see it man it makes a difference as I get run over again but listen I I showed this to my wife she looked at these settings and said that she couldn't tell the difference and honestly that's okay if you're looking at this and you're like honestly I don't get it maybe it looks a little bit better but I don't get it cherish that love that hold it near and dear to your heart because having expensive tastes like Global Illumination in your games or being like an audiophile it leads to nothing but misery okay I'm telling you as somebody that like has gone through the audio file phases before I I have the nice speakers I have the nice Dax I have the nice like headphone amps tube amp whatever I've I've been through that and let me just tell you once you've tasted that forbidden fruit and you can tell the difference between the really good stuff and the really bad stuff life's never the same and you just turn into a prick like everybody can't stand you anymore so cherish the fact that you you don't mind rasterized lighting because honestly you're going to save a lot of money not buying into the latest trend of graphics cards and things so so be thankful cherish that hold it because honestly if I could like flip a switch in my brain and not care about this and not see the differences I probably would because it would just make everything way easier but once you've seen what this can do man it really is like the forbidden fruit and I guess the last thing to address is whether or not this will ever come to console because when we were talking about this on stream a lot of people were like how long until this comes to the PS5 or to the series X and frankly I I hate to be the bearer of bad news um there is a little Nuance to the answer to this question so let me just take it directly the answer to the question of when this will come to PS5 and Xbox series consoles is um never maybe we'll see it with like a PS5 Pro honestly it's more likely to come with like a PlayStation 6 or something like that but frankly this requires a 1500 graphics card and even then you have to upscale all of the the footage you have to go and add frames injected into it it's not as simple as just like ah we'll just turn it on for next gen Hardware no this is something that is very very future oriented and not very practical for again 99.9 percent of players so don't expect this level of lighting quality to be on any I would say consumer grade console for the next probably five to ten years honestly I just don't see how they bring something like this unless there's major strides made in the next few years that could come to like a PlayStation 6 or PlayStation 5 Pro and even then I just don't think it would be that practical to put all of that effort into the ray tracing side of things I personally think that these console manufacturers and the developers and everybody should be putting way more focus on AI development and processing within consoles because you could realistically have ai engines that could have realistic like actually realistic behavior on the part of NPCs where people can go around doing their day-to-day routines they could even have in-game economies that are real holistic where this person is going to work over here every single day but one day just dynamically the AI calculates whatever the behavior was and decides that they're fired so they leave maybe they end up homeless and they're on the street there's all sorts of crazy cool stuff you could do with AI that is just totally untouched in modern games and I think that's the next Frontier I think GTA 7 more realistically than six because six is probably pretty close to being done but I would say Grand Theft Auto 7 is going to be focused on AI I think that's next Frontier and I think very few people will be like really focused on Ray tracing uh I think it'll be a cool feature but just like the Nvidia Hair Works stuff of the early 20 teens or the physx stuff or you remember when like The Witcher 3 came out and everything was about those hair physics that they had all of that stuff was a cool gimmick at the time but years later we moved on and we still have that stuff but it's not the selling point anymore I think Ray tracing is currently the selling point and while it looks amazing and it definitely helps in the long run I think we will be much better served focusing on AI and stuff like that if we just pause here look at this let's do a side by side of this Jacob and let's swap this out to medium and just look at the difference in lighting I mean that side by side should make this very very clear just what the overdrive is capable of still a very very good looking game at medium but on overdrive it's just on another level it's it's crazy I think the biggest difference is NPCs she's she looks like she's had a rough day but I mean NPCs oh Johnny silverhand this is where he ended up that's where he went oh he dropped a can of food and now he's licking it up because he doesn't want to go to waste yeah NPCs are way better with overdrive because again like without overdrive they everybody just looks like they're glowing for some reason the skin just doesn't look right you see like why is he so well lit he shouldn't be that well lit he's in Shadow like I don't understand it's so weird but then you turn this on and all of a sudden he actually has Shadows cast over him looks way way better but anyway this this whole thing is just me oogling and ogling and how cool this is so I will probably leave it there and I'm going to continue to experiment with this over the next few hours because I'm having a really good time with it and why not I'm gonna keep trying to get the flying car mod working because I really like that mod and I'm 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Channel: Luke Stephens

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Length: 23min 46sec (1426 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 12 2023