I Drive The Insanely Good Hyundai IONIQ 5 For The First Time!

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Is β€œGreat” the next level after β€œInsanely Good?”

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 9 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/PleaseBuyEV πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 17 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

This car looks amazing and I'm excited about it...just a bummer that you won't find it at the prices listed. At least a $3k-$5k markup for sure.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 7 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/TheOrangeSplat πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 18 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

*cancels ID4 reservation*

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 18 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/TingGreaterThanOC πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 17 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

The new Kia and Hyundai EVs look to be really good cars

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 8 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/StoneColdAM πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 18 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

Who’s pumped for this car? So many tests we have to do once we can get our hands on it for an extended period of time. It’ll be sold in ZEV states and about 8 others at launch but then expanding to sales in all 50 states once supply can catch up with demand. I think the supply with be this car’s biggest issue! Good luck getting one as I’m sure everyone will be lined up for these.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 11 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Specialist-Staff7634 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 17 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

Nitpicks:

  • Seems like thermal throttling is still a bit of an issue especially when you drive the car hard or over long distances. Here, Kyle says the charge rate started at around 220kW (near 0% SoC) then dropped hard due to hitting a thermal limit, and that was with the cabin AC off. To be fair, he was shredding it during the drive before charging. A bit disappointing to hear but probably won't affect normal, everyday driving.

  • Phantom braking on highway assist in broad daylight. Looks like a one-off though as the rest of the drive on HDA2 was uneventful.

All in all, those are the only 2 complaints I could see throughout the video. Looks really cool!

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 12 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/AntelopeBeans4 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 18 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

He's a bit too verbose for my taste. I got like 10 minutes in and realized he was just going to keep rambling.

I'm quite excited to see the Ioniq 5 finally coming to the US, though! Especially with those prices.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 10 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/coredumperror πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 18 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

I love how accurate and detailed your driving performance and NVH reviews are. Makes me feel like Im there driving the thing

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Such_Strategy646 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 17 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

It sure has some great futures and lots of things that are just right. That little warning when you're looking at the features inside and the car up front drives away is something I haven't seen in any other vehicle. While many have the sensors.

I also love the design and can't stand that of the kia EV6. Likely that most either like one of the two.

I didn't find many downsides when test riding. The trunk is rather small. Some of the riding aids stop working from time to time with a message that this service is temporarily unavailable. And the consumption is rather high. But if you don't want a Tesla design that is what you'll get in return. Plus it charges fast in the right conditions.

The reason I didn't sign for one yet is that I didn't experience a sporty ride nor good road feel. Don't get me wrong it was comfortable and can go fast. But the VW ID.3 for example had sportier suspension and steering. That one lacks other things though. So I'll be looking at some true electric sports cars first.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Hans2183 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 18 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies
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this is the new benchmark for all electric cars factoring price performance sizing styling mood booster if you will hello and welcome finally to the hyundai ioniq 5. we are going to be driving this car together for the first time in today's video if you can't tell i'm so excited to get behind the wheel of this thing first i'm going to take you around the car show you some things talk about some specifications and then you're going to join me for my first driving opportunities of the vehicle this is in no way my review whatsoever my opinions are subject to change this is my first impressions of the car i do this with every eevee or at least try to with every ev you guys seem to love the videos so we're gonna drive the car in the city on the highway shred it up the mountains a little bit you guys know we have to performance evaluate the ioniq five least best we can on the street not in a track environment and um first off can we just say how cool this thing looks is that allowed this is the coolest looking car on sale i'm gonna say it this thing's red here we have the brand new hyundai ioniq 5. now in europe this car is on sale and being tested by automotive journalists so here in the us we're a little bit behind the game however during my month tour in europe recently i got to spend time with this car sister car built on the same egmp the electric global modular platform uh chassis that was the kia ev6 now the cars will be adapted for the us market with specific suspension and packaging and trim levels so here this is a us spec ionic five my first time getting behind the wheel of ionic five and wow can i just say how good this car looks the pixel theme everywhere is so neat the way that each of these individual pixels lights up when you hit the brakes and the headlights are on pretty amazing the one that we're driving is the larger battery pack somewhere between 75 to 77 kilowatt hour battery pack the real story here why won't that open uh oh did i lock the car i hope not what's going on folks let's do this let's click that's lock that's unlock open charging port the real story here is the charging of this battery pack 240 kilowatt peak dc fast charging i've done a full zero to 100 curve on the kia ev6 has a very odd charging curve at around 80 percent it dips to like one or two kilowatts to prevent lithium plating i think however one of the fastest charging evs on sale i claimed 10 to 80 percent in 18 minutes i think i went from zero to 50 percent in just about 10 minutes on ev6 i was waiting for that little helicopter to pass for audio reasons but let me just continue talking about the charging here for a second uh from an ac side it can do just about 11 kilowatts i believe it's 10.9 i think it's 40 amps i could be wrong and then on the dc side again 240 kilowatt peak that's if you plug it into a charging station capable there are a few stations left over that do not charge at 800 volts will not be able to match the pack voltage of this car when plugging in therefore you need a booster with an 800 volt system the way tycon does this is with a a separate converter basically an onboard dc to dc booster unit that is 50 kilowatts from the factory with an optional upgrade of about 500 450 bucks something like that to get up to 150 kilowatts in the booster here in this particular car there is a a single standard booster that's about just over 200 amps so it's gonna be right around 100 kilowatts or so is what you can get which is really good but what's more interesting than just the booster is how the car actually boosts from 400 to 800 volts you see it has an inverter mounted directly onto the rear motor which is nice because it's just one motor and inverter package and it actually runs the power through that inverter it steps up the voltage and then basically in a sense regens the battery through the rear motor inverter to charge which is so awesome and i don't know of many stations that still can output or match pack voltage at 800 800 volts however if the supercharger network happens to open here in the us i have my doubts then at least with an adapter for sure or if tesla put ccs handles on their connections you could at least get 100 kilowatts on the supercharger network i've always said at least in ticon not worth it to get the booster because what stations are left that don't uh supply the power and while i think it's unlikely that the supercharger network will open in the u.s to public it's possible therefore yeah i think it's worth getting that option on that car and i'm glad this car has that as standard hundred kilowatt which is pretty good uh yep it looks like we have some active arrow up front here terms of range i should mention about 300 miles on the rear wheel drive version and about 260 miles epa a little bit less actually on the all-wheel drive why is it such a huge drop to all-wheel drive that i don't know i believe it's because they test the cars in key up setting for epa which uh it key ups in normal setting but when you drive the car in eco mode it will actually disconnect the front motor entirely and um yeah although driving in normal mode i think it does that while cruising and then when you feed in the throttle then it then it reconnects and you get the extra power so yeah i'm not sure why the all-wheel drive gets such little range you do gain some benefits with all-wheel drive other than just extra power you know five-second ish 0-60 it's properly powered it's not crazy fast but it's certainly enough to have fun with it's a lot more spicy than id4 in this category of acceleration we'll take it out on the roads and i just drove it a little ways up here before the intro but when we jump in the car it will genuinely be my first time filming i just didn't have a chance to film an intro before i got in um yeah so so you do get a heat pump with all-wheel drive you do not get a heat pump for rear-wheel drive in the us i believe it uses a resistive heater but i will have to confirm with that because in the presentation this morning hyundai said it actually doesn't heat up the battery pack there's no battery heater without all-wheel drive i don't think that's true you need a battery here at least these days for a car of this caliber so anyway let's take a look around the car in terms of spacing and sizing now that we've gone through some specaroonies power trunk nice oh that little cargo cover's nasty isn't it why is that here there okay well that would be ripped out the first thing i would do i know a lot of you guys like it but you guys know i hate those things that's fine still a nice implementation with it pulling in under floor storage ish tire mobility kit here we have a j1772 to let's see 110 outlet yep this is the included evse looks pretty good how many amps can it do let's see 12 amps nice better than those 10 amp units that some of the cars get so that's a good win i would say i don't see any way to have a 240 volt mobile connector but i'll see if we can find that out if not i'm sure they'll sell you that as an accessory also one of the cool things you can do with these egmp cars is do v2l vehicle to load and that means that not only can you put power in with the charging port you can actually have a little adapter plug in here and then get power out now if you watch our kia ev6 review i actually did this and we charged the tycon and here in the us this is sold as an aftermarket accessory or i should say it's really an oe accessory it's part of hyundai's group you can buy it but it's not included with the car can do 1.9 kilowatt continuous it's about 115 volt output and then uh yep just uh you can run a microwave run your camp whatever you want to do you could charge another car but you just plug into the j port and it can do v2l we close the port right there uh let's see is there another way to close the port because that didn't seem super nice oh yeah closed lovely that's the way to do it let's take a look in the back seat room here love these door handles by the way whoa a lot of room here folks a lot of room here switching to wide angle let's have a seat oh this one's a maxed out believe it's called a limited trim this beautiful glass roof these shades close and meet in the middle i'll show you that up front two usb a ports what how are those not usb-c by now can we all agree automakers just usb see everything these days rear air vents that's lovely perfect uber car actually great legroom and this seat's really far back what else do we have center armrest cupholders sick love the color material trim love these pixel lines all throughout here this is wonderful material usage around everything feels high quality feels happy and light i would totally get this interior 100 even with my dogs everyone's always so concerned with white seats i've honestly never had an issue that folds quite nicely check that out and then to lift it up oh this is a two-handed operation forgive the camera view whoa and now we got it locked back in sorry if you just got seasick there these wheels interesting we're on michelin primacy tour all season tires i knew it was a good tire driving it up here you'll see when we drive it good tire eco tire definitely an oe tire adapted for this car for range and so um yeah i have to say it's really well suited to this to this vehicle uh all around the wheel tire looks wheels look good what i would do to the ionic five i don't know about you guys i would slam this thing on the ground bag it nice wheels roof racks on the top then dogs out the windows you can see a couple other ionic fives people filming for their videos there oh man i just love the way this car looks so what do you say we jump inside the front seat and then we'll be able to drive it but i do want to show you this sunroof thing also this one has the heads-up display with augmented reality the augmented reality honestly to me is not a big deal i wouldn't make a big fuss about it two memory seats bose sound systems awesome i was listening to it you do have to go pretty high on the volume goes up to 75 why why 75 i don't know kind of felt like i wanted the extra 25 up there screen's booting up this is literally car was off right up to a full boot so you can watch the time that it takes for the screens to come on let's wait for it let's see head up display is on i could definitely drive away now yeah that took a little while didn't it you can have different drive modes it will actually adapt your adaptive cruise control other settings and things like this to your drive mode so it's important you always drive in your mode and your spouse or partner whoever else drives the car drives in their mode so the car can help adapt to it here's the roof situation nope you push this way and then it pulls back on both ends and they meet in the middle nice and not even a hint of light coming through how about that and then you go this way which is counter-intuitive since this is what i'm seeing in my head but i get what they're going for push to close pulled it open let's see we have a glove box here air vents by the way it can do the driver only mode so it can shut off those vents for efficiency totally flat floor tons of space very i3 feeling up here i don't like how huge these bezels are personally i think this looks real chintzy and the screen yeah it's just typical hyundai nav system it's good i would just get it all set up and use carplay personally i talk about the regen levels when we jump in the car so we'll do that forgive the poor efficiency don't reference that number that's from me shredding up here so it's definitely more efficient than that although i do get the impression from other reviews that maybe kona electric and ionic electric were more efficient than these new ground up cars at least is what i'm hearing so i don't know we'll have to see when we can do our full reviews tests and road trips which we'll definitely be doing with this car but for now let's go jump inside and take it for a drive in a few different driving environments you join me inside the ionic 5 wow it's literally i just got in a little bit overwhelming a lot to do we have about a 45 minute drive to a little bit of a break point so let's see i rotate this little thing down here for drive reverse neutral park that's so cool drive modes we're in normal this is an all-wheel drive maximax one in the gray i have level one two three and i pedal i'm going to drive in ipedal have the navigation set up so let's turn signal on and indicate that we're trying to get out of here in this carnage of ionic 5. so let's head out this way nice 750 here parked in the middle of the road check this out this is so cool it's wonderful in here i feel like we've just caused a giant traffic jam in the middle of san diego which is hilarious but uh you gotta love it first off this is my first time really sitting in the car and getting everything adjusted i have seat movements it all feels nice the steering wheel material is wonderful wow now i've driven ev6 before if you haven't took take a look at that video i had driven that car around uh the munich area for a couple days and really enjoyed it did some charging stuff we are going to try and charge this car today i believe we will be able to and uh you'll have to forgive the lady from talking i can turn her off by doing that boom and we're going to just continue straight on should we start with a launch let's just let's just nail it right yeah as well dang it feels good it's a little bit of delay in normal mode and then just ramps and ramps and ramps that's pretty sweet so just continuing down this thing's huge in here holy smokes it's roomy i specifically wanted one with this interior since this is the interior i like i would totally go for this speck which is the matte gray with white seats the only thing i don't like about matte paint or frozen paint a cute dog looks like a wolf and it's a cool dog the only thing i'm not a huge fan of with matte paint really is just some deposits getting on there and then cleaning them off properly but whatever uh whoa i'm just a little bit in shock this is so cool it's a car that you all have requested a ton of time with i've wanted to spend a lot of time with auto hold on i pedal on what other buttons do i have traction control off that's a good one we'll try that later on see how this thing is in some dynamic situations if you know what i mean you guys know me we're going to shred this thing here's what we're gonna do today i have just a few hours to spend with it it's sort of the first drive wave so it's a little bit like hyundai saying you go here here here and here but we'll we'll do our own thing best we can um yeah i'm gonna try the sound system we're to talk about the car in depth i'm going to drive it around the city and the highway in the mountains we're going to charge it and by the way my first impressions just you know jumping in the car that was this is my genuine first time driving it i always like to record these is extremely positive glass everywhere the feeling of quality and it seems really quiet listen yeah there's like trucks and noise going on out there roll up the windows and all that's really good wow the car makes me happy i really enjoy it i also saw a photo somewhere i'll see if i can include it a play and pause buttons does this one have it yes it does on the pedals there's a metal brushed option you can get on the pedal go for that it's cool but they kind of copied volkswagen with the play and pause situation but the one pedal driving i guess since we're just stopped here let's talk about this so i'm just going to tip into it zero motor caulking great throttle response comes to a stop so smoothly ford what are you doing why can't you just do a nice smooth one pedal situation like hyundai and tesla and kia i noticed the same thing with ev6 no one's in the right lane let's just go eye pedal lift off holding the left paddle doesn't make a difference i don't know we'll play around with it coming to a stop at a green light oh so smooth full power big power little laggy on the throttle though i put my foot down and then it's like are you sure and it ramps ramps wrench i wonder if i put it into zest faults mode sport mode and let's try launching it here nope still laggy that's weird why just go when i tell you to go anyway we can see if we can break boost it we'll try some other tactics maybe that are in there for it to be better uh another thing i think we should try is the turning radius so what do you say we just pull into this little parking lot i don't think an ionic five's ever been in this parking lot oh good turning radius hold on let's try this turning all the way over yeah really nice everyone's taking a look at the on f5 and they like it people like the ionic 5 hell yeah definitely in a place where i don't think any ioniq 5's ever been got 7 series on 20 foes let's go rip it come on car give me power why aren't you going anywhere why is it slow i was wide open am i in uh eco mode only uses rear motor i got to go to normal now yep there's the power wow strong performance still pulling strong performance still we're just staying pinned chasing down that mockie wow triple digits uphill no problem nice but it's not fast crazy it's no plaid but that felt good again very initial impressions let's try the highway driving assistant two this car has we'll talk more about it all in depth and we'll spend more time driving on it here a little bit but i have everything set the nice thing about hyundai's uh sort of lane centering situation is it will do it regardless of adaptive cruise control status so you can drive with your foot manually and then it will also do auto steering which i love lane changes also it will do by itself look at this keep hands on steering wheel don't worry i have that's nice very similar to what we experienced in ev6 oh wow so since we're on the highway i guess let's just start here we're doing 67 miles an hour on concrete surface let me take a listen it's quiet a lot a lot of noise up here but there's a lot of room up here gorgeous glass roof in this particular car that's i believe on mid-spec and up you can get the glass roof there's s-e-s-e-l and limited something like that and um yeah on the highway it's good but why are we slowing down i have no idea it just phantom break why were we breaking i have no clue we're letting it do its thing very competent lane centering that's good oh maybe maybe not so much around the corner so it has a couple extra features in highway driving assistant might as well talk about it now it's hda2 so in terms of safety systems it has forward collision warning evasive assist cross traffic in the rear but also like intersection assist so if you're about to go through an intersection of cars coming through from the side it will recognize that and slam on the brakes there's a lot of like really neat things in this car that it'll do but on the highway specifically there's some really interesting stuff the first is you know when you're in stop and go traffic with an adaptive cruise control system in the car sometimes never goes like it leaves a gap when they pull away and it's kind of annoying and you have to always adjust it well this car will learn how you adjust and interact with the cruise control system either by tapping the accelerator pedal or i assume by hitting the brake pedal i only know they only told us how to get it more aggressive not how to make it less aggressive but either way you can train the system with your inputs they said over about a day or two of driving it will react and you'll start to feel it change to drive the way you want it to drive now we've seen adaptive cruise control systems that change behavior based on drive mode for example like an id4 you can set the adaptive cruise control system to either be very aggressive in sport or eco with leaving a lot of room and gentle accelerations but here it will actually learn you it's tied to driver profile and it will adapt to your driving preferences i guess yeah really good it also has another feature which i really like which is basically altering your position within the lane based on driving scenario so if we're next to like a car and they're swerving around to the right it will push us to the left side of the lane and then bring us back to the middle which i absolutely absolutely love that's such a great feature overall you know the the one thing that i guess it's an suv type situation it's a compact utility vehicle but i do feel like everything is just low in the cabin and i can't say that i'm personally a fan of that i really like to sit inside of a car rather than on top of it and in this car you're very much sitting on top of it but for the majority of people who like a high riding position this is by far a fantastic position very airy very roomy very comfortable yeah just what what more could you ask for the biggest thing i don't know at the time of this recording but i will know by the time this video goes up because they haven't actually they claim they haven't figured out the price for the us market it's waiting final approval um is the price of this car i think it's going to be expensive but we'll know when this video goes live i won't be able to include it in the video but just google search it and you'll find it go to swerveautos.com our written site will have an article on it excuse the mess down here however i'm just editing this video and i do know the pricing because swerve autos wrote a great article on it and i am just truly blown away by the pricing and value on this car with a 39 700 starting price before destination for the small battery car you're into the thing for high 40s maybe mid 50s for like a maxed out one it sits right between id4 and machi but gives you so much better charging performance it's really i think unbelievably well priced it shocked me i thought for each trim we were gonna see uh ten thousand dollars more uh you know that hyundai would charge for the car i'm just totally blown away by the value and yeah i'll put the charts up of course you've seen them just insane insane value here in my opinion anyway let's continue i'm going to feel my way around this car a little bit those are my genuine first impressions in the ionic 5 and then of course we will um you know drive it in a mixed mixed environment it's going to be a really long video really hopefully in depth you learn with me as i go through this whole car uh throughout this day of program hyundai's created but again we're going to do the stuff i need to do to share the stuff i want to share with you well as we're nearing the end of my little highway portion here i have to say i'm impressed with the driving dynamics on the highway the suspension is unbelievably good in eco mode it disconnects the front motor so it's just rear drive and you get you know quite a bit less power but it still works really well i believe it reconnects for regen no matter what i could be wrong on that uh could be different tuning than ev6 as well i believe ev6 did regen i reconnect the front motor it has like a little clutch pack type situation uh anyway now we are just exiting off we're gonna go drive in some more dynamic roads just using that regen situation to pull us down the nice thing is so there's uh you know five levels of regen almost there's zero one two three and ipedal eye pedals like full one driving that's what i would leave it in all the time it's letting me know there's a vehicle to the right thank you very much um i would leave the car in ipedal all the drive perfect steering ratio too the pro like model y has the quickest steering ratio it's so unsettling and don't get me wrong model is a great car i recommend it to a lot of people but there's two three two things that really bugged me about that car the steering ratio and the suspension's way too stiff in this car this thing rides nice this is like a luxury suspension it rode really great on the highway uh and the steering is is the fanta is a fantastic ratio now for performance driving i don't know we'll see but everything about this car just screams the business to me this is just so well engineered you get the sense that like holy smokes all of the odd harsh frequencies that you can get from time to time are tuned out of the steering system i love that this it's steering itself even though i'm hitting the pedals it's great there's so much technology here that and it's all well integrated yeah i have to say my first you know 15 minutes in the car so far have been extremely positive i haven't really found anything that is sticking out to me as an annoyance which is a big thing rather than finding things that i really love i'm pretty good at finding things i love but i'm also really good at you know just like one little thing bugging me whether it's a noise or it's a control or like for example a brake pedal situation in this car i love it love it all i'm just going to turn the auto steering off here with one touch one little button and now brakes feel good i haven't actually even really used the physical brake pedal yet no one's really behind us sometimes in cars when you lift off the accelerator pedal and then transition to the brake quickly it has to ramp regen and it's kind of unnatural so let's just see how that feels i'm gonna just two-foot it real quick break wow that was good so throttle throttle throttle brake really good so that was interesting because i had just tapped the brake pedal a little bit but because uh i had come off the throttle so much and then hit the brakes a bit it went into you know its emergency booster and so it really just got on the brakes hard we haven't even done performance driving but that's a good indication that the brakes feel good great abs feel too wow if we're locking tire there it's on some eco tires but wow this thing feels really really really really well sorted and calibrated and um i call me impressed and we're behind in our class how about that it's an r350 i wish it was you know the 63 oas that's the spot if you ever seen r63 in public tag me auto hold holding us at a stop will ipedal hold us at a stop yes ish and then it feels like it's holding us on motor torque i wonder if the brake lights are on i bet they are because in kona they weren't and then they updated it so that it was anyway we're gonna go drive some good roads see you along those you join me at the base of seemingly some good looking roads so i have my air conditioned seat on which is getting ice cold by the way when you're in eye pedal which is the one pedal drive uh pulling the left paddle does not increase regen anymore but in full regen number three it will go full regen if you pull the paddle so a lot of people don't like the feeling of of one pedal driving or they prefer the the pedal to be used for sort of more pedal modulation under throttle a longer throttle pedal if you will so that your usable distance actually works towards moving the car the nice thing is you can have that and then you can just pull the left paddle whenever you want max regen really love that setting so let's go into some eevee stuff here i click this electricity use eco driving okay it doesn't really matter let's go into sporty sport mode so you can you have eco normal sport and then you can hold drive mode for snow wonderful feeling switch gear really is and then there's some traction control disabled i'm gonna keep holding and then traction and stability control disabled um let's just pull out here and see how it does big power here in sport mode coming around corners oh good power fast let's try the braking really good brake pedal really good brake for a lot of wheel lock up actually but i like that i like an aggressive abs coming around the corner well that was just one corner but wow does this thing feel unbelievably well sorted the tire selection's nice because you do need obviously you can't have like a cup two on an ionic five you'd have no range so i have to look at the tires that we have on here but and i probably will before we hit some really really good roads but uh just that little initial corner was the car is soft but well controlled the brake pedal is really good i think it's a little bit aggressive on the brake booster when you hit the pedal which is probably fine for this application which is like throttle throttle throttle touch the brake full brakes yeah i just touched the brakes so it's very aggressive on the emergency situation but like no one's really going to drive like that unless you are in emergency situation but coming into a corner if i just progressively roll and feed in feed and breaks the pedal feels amazing amazing i have to talk to one of the engineers at lunch and talk about how they did this brake pedal and how did they tune it so well because in theory it should have quite a bit of regen north of 200 kilowatts by far and actually i'm sure we can find out when we're on the highway i can hit the brakes and it'll tell me how much it's taking in even kona electric does 200 kilowatts what i'm curious is how much does the rear wheel drive regen by the way heat pump only in all-wheel drive not in a rear wheel drive that uses a ptc heater they said it had no battery heater in the rear wheel drive in the presentation this morning i said i don't think that's true but if it is that's a real disaster but i don't i really don't think it is i'm sure it does its own thermal management situation with a resistive heater rather than a heat pump like in this particular all-wheel drive model what other stuff can i show you play around with by the way um in terms of climate control because no one's sitting in the passenger seat it's in driver only so i'm the only one getting air conditioning so we're saving on efficiency there this is this is this is good this is oh i was about to say this is good it was good but it's not good i don't know if you can see this there's a torque screen here on the display and it's not actually using motor torque it's done off of throttle calibration so when i put the car in neutral and floor it it shows 100 torque the kona did the same thing electric that's kind of silly but i'm in neutral if i keep my foot to the floor in neutral and put it in drive it should launch yep if you're ever doing roll racing on the highway with an ev not that i recommend anything like that neutral full throttle put in drive and bam i do it my smart car all the time to get off the line a little bit quicker and some other stuff it's the old neutral drop but without a transmission so let's go find some good roads and enough me blabbering on about weird things about the ionic 5 but i have to say when it boils down to it because you know we're going to spend a lot of time with this car we're going to take it on road trips we're going to do charging tests we're going to do the whole thing you need to do with all the evs this is just my first taste uh i think when when i do my first taste videos you guys know it's it's not so structured it's just me sharing my initial thoughts but what matters is is it improving my day is am i excited happy um wanting to be in this vehicle the answer is a hundred percent this car is stellarly fun that's not even a great way of describing it but beautiful mountains happy car great styling and it's big like it's got a lot of room in photos i thought this car was small i've seen it in person a whole bunch now i've seen this thing for over a year i was one of the first ones to see a prototype out in the wild was lucky enough to spot that car in las vegas here in the u.s and they were doing some stuff with roush engineering let's go find some good road join me on a good road now where we're gonna start picking up the pace and seeing how this thing hustles through first off i get a very model three like impression out the front uh by that i mean visually because i'm sort of sitting up high and the dash is low i can see everything and i guess it always gives this oh beautiful s-class i guess it always gives this wonderful impression there's an ionic 5. it always gives this wonderful impression of the sight lines of the road so let's start hustling this thing through some corners right power out oh it's got a lot of lean like it's it's good at holding itself up it's soft it's compliant this is not the performance one i think the ev6 is going to be the most performancy of the three cars in the egmp platform at least the initial cars and i have to say i really actually like the way this car drives now i'm a fan of soft cars driving fast there's so many companies that make a car that's way too stiff and it unfortunately i think kills the um kills the ride on a back road pulse r2 for example is almost too aggressive for a back road with performance back when you have the dampers set to full wow but hyundai from what i know from friends who work at you know tire manufacturers who do a lot of oe uh tire engineering work with the hyundai group they're very particular with how their cars drive almost more so than the germans i've heard and so that 100 translates into the driving dynamics here very grown-up driving dynamics here it's amazing how much rear tire it uses when you lean this thing over it digs on that rear axle and it gives this sense of of of all you know your two outside tires actually working rather than a very understeery platform this is very neutrally balanced and almost a little bit like pretty spicy on the rear axle i think this is so cool keeping it pinned through here coming in under braking chucking in big power whoa it's good making good power too test by the way let's just try full brakes so cannot really feel abs through the brake pedal just because it's a break by wire situation i'm sure but overall it feels very solid ample braking performance and i really like the abs calibration like i mentioned it's aggressive you really are really digging the tires in which is nice from a performance standpoint in terms of cooling architecture this is an area i really want to dig into more in this car i've heard um i've overheated ev6 after charging and then driving fast i heard bjorn has done the same they call it you know sort of rapid gate for this car but from what it sounds like is if you just turn off air conditioning it will divert uh cooling functionality to the battery pack and it's no issue what's weird though is that the car doesn't automatically do that and it could be a software thing and we could see it come down the line again this is just an initial taste but it's an area we really need to test because yeah thermal management's so important to an electric car my understanding though is it does not divert cabin comfort to battery pack cooling therefore it limits your charging speed and power output to not overheat the battery a lot of other cars including tesla will say sorry we are dedicating cooling ripping out in front of a truck oh plenty of room this thing gets up and boogies we're already over 60. um what tesla will do what others will do is they'll say sorry it's gonna get hot in your cabin we gotta cool down the battery pack you know diverting cooling to high voltage system something like that and well that's probably the right decision to get the maximum numbers but i could see it going one way or another gorgeous views up here just on the outside of san diego california very close to mexico down here let's go to mexico anyway i'm very impressed with the with the just grown-up dynamics of this car under braking chuck it in it's really well sorted it's not sporty in a sense it's not crazy you know amazing uh you know speed but it's just grown up a little bit like id4 in that sense where the car just holds its weight well carries its weight um the the weight transfers are noticeable you can feel it but it's grown up i keep using that terminology it's very german-like honestly and so i just joined me for a quick drive right let's just see what we find out about this thing as we drive it hard coming through under power breaking on the dip wow the motors sound healthy dude sound really good not even a hint of abs through there and we had weight moving around on purpose i kind of rocked the car a bit to try and get some wheels light and it just said nope you're good a lot of other cars would have said you know they would have brushed the brake with some roll over protection or not necessarily rollover but just just a hint of stability and perhaps if i had stability control on it would have done that let's turn it on fully by the way let's just see how aggressive it is i'm just gonna you know this i don't know if it's police or fire what it is in front of me but let's just snail it through this corner yeah so it's brushing i can feel it cutting power through there but i mean like that's no one's ever gonna drive a car that hard and not turn off stability control so let's go back to the way i like to drive which is just me and the tires and this unbelievably well sorted chassis uh wish we could find some really even you know tighter sections of the road to rip around i'm sure we will following a fire truck that's sweet love the cal fire stuff they have some of the best equipment around here yeah the steering wheel being a two spoke doesn't bother me normally i'm not a two spoke kind of guy but i have to say this is a a wonderful wheel um yeah let's just let's just hold back here a little bit let that guy go up ahead we'll pull over here on the right and then we will rip it out as soon as we see another car coming yeah wow i am really loving this thing it seems so sordid that's the answer it's it's almost sorted too much where the car doesn't have too much character because it's like oh yeah someone engineered for that someone engineered this this is exactly what you should be feeling is is my sense of it it's not much like whoa you're like moving around and like the engineers didn't think about that it's everything is calculated that's coming through all the frequencies through the steering the suspension it's very well tuned it has a rear subframe that's tuned to damp some road vibrations out of it so let's just start with a launch real quick left foot hard on the brake flooring it go that's the way to launch the car is to do both and then pop off the brake yes you just stay in it it helps the rear end come around yep that's exactly again engineered for just enough where throttle can help turn the car but it still diverts to understeer when you really push it too hard very good power it's not again crazy fast but it's just competent in the way that it accelerates i really i think there's room for like an ionic 5 n if you will and i think that's in the plans i don't know i hope it is because this chassis with more tire you know you put maybe active damper on the suspension that's tuned up a bit uh brakes feel great honestly and then you just juice that rear axle honestly the front to rear torque splits awesome way better than cars like xc40 recharge and pulse r2 that have 250 kilowatt motors it technically makes more power than this car but at the end of the day it doesn't feel as good on a back road because as you apply throttle in those cars they actually end up pushing a little bit and so in this car as you apply throttle it it doesn't necessarily overseer if you're patient with it i'm sure it can and um yeah it but but it certainly neutralizes and it's a very positive sensation driving this car quickly so uh i'm sure we'll have a chance for more dynamic roads like i mentioned this is gonna be a long-ish video really love putting my foot down in this thing driving like this is not very efficient of course but you can see it it's soft it moves but it moves in all the right ways i keep saying the same thing over very impressed i'll catch you uh in a little bit well we are currently uh shredding with an audi i think he had so much carbon buildup when he floored it just a big puff of smoke came out the exhaust and uh i figured now that i've had a chance no we got caught in traffic i was hoping we could go with the a5 for a little bit but it was so funny that you know when when people drive these turbocharged direct injection combustion engines around you know two miles an hour and then take them up into the canyons once in a while and then you they put their foot down just smoke comes out the back and yeah just nasty stuff that is a benefit of an electric car it's just the emissions ah i really wish we could have all the fun with combustion because i truly love combustion cars from an enthusiast standpoint but i don't think i love polluting the planet so much at least with localized emissions so either way i think drive an electric car every day save the gas cars for the weekends um now that i've had a chance to decompress i actually just shot the intro to this video i thought i'd you know just share my overall thoughts now that i've spent some time with it i can give you my impressions of the car and then i think we go and charge it so on the highway this car is very comfortable the sound system better than expected it still doesn't go loud enough to me um it's pretty loud don't get me wrong but normal people don't care but i kind of like my ears to bleed so yeah needs like another couple hundred watts of just bass but the bass is strong don't get me wrong it's got a good subwoofer so overall uh very pleased there's really nothing bad with the car the steering's a little bit you know numb and the car is soft and floaty and that's it's just fun to feel it move around and and you know the whole like so many cars are way too stiff for their intended purpose and they beat you up on the road and then when you get really into driving them hard they give you the impression that they're supposed to be a fast car because you've just been having your head hit the ceiling over every bump and then they're actually kind of soft it's just like okay that's not good uh here though the car's honest in the way that it drives it's comfortable and compliant on the street where this car is gonna live 99 of its time but it doesn't fall apart around the corners you do get this sort of roll action the car leans over but with esp off when you're going into the tight corners especially you can map the throttle kick the back end out for these little tight quick things and like it's really dynamically it does everything you want like watch this for example no one's really behind right so i can like power on this way and like kind of be a hooligan with it and get angle this way and get angle that way and then straighten up the car and that's just me being an idiot but it responds so well to these inputs and it's roll rolling uh rolling over on the tires as nice and it digs into those michelins really well so love the tire selection love the suspension calibration the compromise they took between comfort and sport my guess is ev6 is going to be a little bit more sporty but i think this is the way to go personally i like this car much better consider taking a break no i'm i'm pumped up about your car i don't want to take a break i just took a break must have been driving too weird for it um [Music] yep let's go charge this thing but driving wise honestly i mean this 100 genuinely there's almost nothing to complain about like i would be so nitpicking but it just hits the mark and it is the mark that's the thing this is the new benchmark for all electric cars factoring price performance sizing styling mood booster if you will you know i think that's a really important thing does the car make you happy to be in it yes it's the new benchmark it just is it smokes everything charging wise the the big issue is going to be you know how are the chargers going to work with this thing how we haven't tried charging them on electrify america how are they going to handle you know this high charging rate because i find when i drive high power charging cars i have more issues with electrify america in general and they're really the only ones with a network of 350 kilowatt chargers by the way two years three years i think two years of free 30 minute dc fast charging could be three but either way that's awesome and uh yeah i'm really looking forward to see how these cars hold up over time oh the one thing i did want to check was is there like a charging limit that i can set in this car so eco electricity use where are my charging settings i'll have to play around with it i'll put it when we go to the charging station i'll dig into some of the charging menus i really want to make sure it doesn't just full charge every day because that would suck um you know just for longevity i want this thing to charge to eighty percent seventy percent daily um which i think is quite an important thing to have in a car so what do you say we finished this little portion off with a quick send-a-roo around some of these corners and i figured you know let's just see how it handles sort of dynamically in some of the tighter corners well so far feels just great at this type of stuff why is this car so good dynamically it's i keep saying it's soft not much steering feel that's okay tight corner feels good and big power on the exit another ionic five ripping the downhill oh this is really is wonderful just so easy to drive quickly too look at that power on gets the back end around gentle under braking just you can just hear the tires the best part about an electric car is you know you get so much feedback from the tire situation on the car that um you hear and feel exactly what's going on and i just absolutely uh love that so much because you can just get the car right on the limit because tire squeal doesn't mean there's no grip left it just means uh you're kind of getting close to whatever the tire can do and then you know it's up to to its compound on breakaway characteristics for that particular metric and so this car is really really solid breakaway i mean you can just kind of get right up at the whole time and and maneuver it around so i'm pleased i'm impressed now we go charge it this can only mean one thing running it down to zero we're gonna log the curve 350 kilowatt charger let's see how this thing does and now you join us over at an electrify america fast charger actually filmed a charging session with this car i don't know if i will or won't post it we'll see i actually got the car a little bit too toasty trying to run it down i pulled in at one percent state of charge everyone was coming in at like 50 i'm like oh wow must have been ripping it uh so anyway i really wanted to do a zero to 100 curve but i knew in the back of my head i was just draining it too fast for it to stay cool and yeah peaked at about 227 kilowatts held there for a while and then just like hit a thermal limit and died i had you know ac off in the car and that just happens when you're charging this fast things will get hot of course so um you know we'll we'll do a full curve when we get one to test for an extended period of time uh got to stay here at the electrify america station worked perfectly it was really great plugged in and went we had one fault issue i don't know if it was on the car but at least the plugging and the charging situation worked uh they were free vend mode so i didn't get to see if it has plug-in charge i actually don't know uh and test any of that but i have to say what a great day driving the ionic 5 it really is a pleasant car makes your day better look you really can't say anything really that bad about this car objectively or subjectively you could you could say you don't like styling or whatever i don't know but like as a car it's really really solid and it's proven to me today um you know maybe it could have better cooling sure but you're never gonna run into situations like i did today in real life and driving it hard which almost matters more to me didn't overheat at all i drove the snot out of this thing and it really didn't derate at all until i was down to about five percent state of charge or so and that's just because pack voltage was low so anyway really impressive and um i guess before we wrap up let me show you the little v2l situation i showed you in the kia ev6 video but i'll show you here too and take a look at this this is the little adapter very similar to what we've seen on ev6 when we tested it where it goes into the j1772 port i guess it goes through one of the inverters pops out 1.9 kilowatt continuous when you charge a car they pull about 1.2 so it's definitely more than enough to charge a car in a wall outlet it would take a while but if you want to charge up your e-bike or run your campsite off this thing or really anything that you need a wall app for well you can do it right here you can even set a thing in the car that says when it gets to 20 state of charge or whatever it is it will actually shut down this unit so you don't run itself dead really really neat unit have to say big fan love this thing and yeah i think it's eating the uh eating the charger here i guess i gotta hit manually unlock in the car or unlock on the key then it will let it go super cool stuff for sure gotta love it and a huge fan of ionic five after today it's really just objectively a good car and then subjectively to me just i'm really into the styling made my day so much better especially in that gray with white seat spec thanks so much for watching another out of spec reviews video sorry it was a long one hope you enjoyed it we'll talk soon bye
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Published: Fri Dec 17 2021
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