How to Remove A Ceramic Floor

in this video I am going to demonstrate to you my system for removing existing ceramic tile now warning if you're one of these people who love sledgehammers I'm sorry to disappoint don't ever use a sledgehammer to remove your tile floor I've seen it happen before and people actually break their floor joists [Music] so when you're doing a new flooring job and you have existing tile I'm gonna say probably 90% of the installation of tile projects in homes that have got a wooden subfloor look a lot like this and this goes for kitchens bathrooms laundry rooms always have a look down here max this home has got a ceramic tile alright and it's not in greatest shape here but you can see there's a plywood layer this is what we call direct bond so this is a cemented directly to this plywood and if count the lasers four of them that makes this apply what a half-inch now in our area the building code has us using five eighths tongue-and-groove subfloor plus a 1/2 an inch plywood it still falls a little bit shy okay of the amount of wood that we need to get an inch and a quarter of substrate still 1/8 thin but what we got here the reason this is a cheat is because you can see underneath the plywood right here this is existing vinyl floor alright and underneath that vinyl floor before they put that on there's a quarter inch plywood so what happens is you have your house and it has a vinyl floor and you call a tile guy and your order in your installation and they come along and they screw down a half inch plywood over top of your existing floor and then they tile right over top of that surface and this is the most common installation in the market today it's a huge sheet I hate it I wish people would take all these extra layers out because as a result of that they've lost the ability to know if they can't screw down the floor to the floor joist and get rid of the squeaks they don't know if they've got dips and valleys they're not using floor leveler and none of the doors work so these closet doors that we have over here are the BI folds they actually don't open all the way so if you have a house like this I'm going to show you all the tips and tricks for getting this out of the way getting all the way back down to the original subfloor that way you can install your tile and your doors will work again now I'm a big fan of cleaning as I go just so that I don't have an accident then these plastic grills they're garbage we're not putting these back I never put a plastic rub back on because no one can ever step on it seems stupid ever them in the first place but what we're gonna do is we're just taping off the door because when we're doing this tile smashing business I don't want little chunks of tile flying into the next room the other room adjoining here is actually got hardwood on it and the last thing I need is to damage somebody's hardwood floor cuz some rogue piece of tile all right so these demo bags here awesome they're like plastic burlap sacks I mean they package the heck out of it don't you oh yeah seems like an awful lot of work to stick it in a small box these bags are a little bit thicker than our six mil bags that we used for regular garbage they're a 7 mil whoo but they have a it's the way they're constructed it's like a nylon mesh right it's like anti-terror anti anything so when you're breaking up your tile so what we do is we just smash the daylights out of the floor with a small hammer we scoop it all up put them in these bags it'd be nice if they were a little bit shorter because if bag does this strong I mean that's gonna be way too heavy in this bowl but I just like to go something comfortable 40 50 pounds hollowed out of here I'll buy a few extra bags I don't even care I'm not throwing my back out for anybody and I don't want to get all cut up and I don't want to have this stuff I'm having a bag burst on me a halfway through the house so this is great for transporting garbage love these things this is a great time actually for us to explore their installation technique see if we can learn anything okay see this classic direct bond right so we have a lot of cement they use a nice thick trowel okay you can see the trial grooves right here great contact with the tile but direct bond on plywood and this is why you shouldn't do this most guys don't take the time to wet the plywood while they're installing their tile and so it doesn't actually bond to the plywood because it's too dry you guys look awesome alright and there you go I think I love it when people don't install tile right because it makes my job so much easier to remove this floor I'm gonna be able to find all my screw holes and everything without any difficulty and now we don't have to beat the living daylights out of it and create all this dust so we can put the mast away guys if you like I just wanted to talk about this real quick there's so much you can learn from a tile job when you're doing the demolition so I wanted to point something out it's gonna grab it ah down here have a look at this so we talked about before about how a lot of this tile job it didn't bond to the plywood all right now in this one area here it bonded to the plywood it's absolutely fascinating it's the only spot right here and in every other area the tile comes up and all this mint is full of cement right here okay but in this area the tile came up clean so come an interesting idea and this is the kind of thing you see when somebody's working along blah blah blah and they put down their cement and then they stop to have a break go answer phone call 5 or 10 minutes goes by they come back they leave their tile they keep on going what happens is the air dries out the top of the cement so when you press the tile under that cement the part that's in contact with the tile is now dry and so then you don't even get a bond but all of that moisture that was in that cement ended up bonding to that plywood where it never did anywhere else it's absolutely fascinating I wonder if this is just the only spot that he ever even used a sponge maybe he had a spill I don't know what's going on it's just bizarre by the way I'm very happy and then as soon as you get past this point this starts popping up real clean and easy there just are not enough screws in this plywood ok these joints line up this should be staggered and it gets a lot more strength of you stagger your joints especially in the hallway the screws here are like every almost 8 inches which is not enough because remember there's another linoleum floor underneath this and another quarter inch so you're not just attaching this plywood your sandwich and bonding all of that together you should be every 2 inches and then every 6 to 8 inches I would probably go six if you're gonna cheat and go over top to an old floor you should go six it's not against the rules to do that but if you're gonna do it throw in enough screw don't get the floor moving around and poppin there's a lot of areas in this floor where the gross chipping out is because of the movement from having the joints like this and not using enough screws so it's kind of funny it doesn't matter who you are where you live there are minimum standards for everything we do and this should be a lot more screws like I mentioned and it should be a fluorine screw but if it's not working because this no kidding it looks like a drywall screw Max and it is my god all right so here's the deal that is totally unacceptable even if it's a flooring screw this screw should be longer first of all because it's kind of passed through an inch and I almost finished a half material including the vinyl and so it's just the just the tip of that screw grabbing the subfloor unbelievable no wonder there's so much heaving I'm wondering if maybe the subfloor in this house is a lot more level than I originally thought it's just such a bad installation the tile that's causing all those waving that would be really good for us yeah this is ridiculous let's put this the idea of the fact that the screws are wrong aside for a second and let's show you how to find them in this situation if there's a lousy bond with the plywood he'll be a lousy bond with the screws and they'll all be available okay isn't that something so you can see he's doing about every six inches or so so we're anticipating here there it is and we're gonna do to save ourselves a lot of time and energy if you have the ability to back out the screws then great if you don't then you've got to use that great big red bar and some pry bars you got to find a spot to get underneath the floor start ripping it up so [Music] they cheated and I'm benefiting once I get this one up I'll be able to use that bar and get underneath this plywood it'll just pop right off cuz it's not screwed into anything and it's fine thread screw that's not a flooring screw that's not even a coarse thread drywall screw I mean holy cow you're gonna cut corners please stay on the road don't see any more screws so let's just see if we can pop this off here and there's the original floor bump up a bum nasty okay I think that's gonna be a little bit faster they're trying to find all the screws and back in the moment so heavy job is a little bit different and this one our job is quite simple usually we have to use the bar like that and apply wood that's been installed so if you're gonna do a demolition of your house I suggest you buy the bar cos about 30 35 bucks but worth its weight in gold because if you do have a cement that's bonded well to this plywood you're gonna have a hard time finding the screws and like I said usually they're every two inches and every six inside that's a lot of screws you'll find us a lot easier sometimes to just rip up the plywood and then go and find those foods they're left behind and pull them out hurry and that's pretty much the whole process once we got out of this layoff we're gonna sweep this up a little bit this layer comes up easy cuz the vinyl is installed on quarter inch ply and this stuff is going to be installed this stuff is gonna be installed the staples yeah and it just lifts off real easy this will be a piece of cake well there we go that's pretty much everything there is to know but removing a ceramic tile remember the system is simple smash or removed with one of those scrapers then you've got to clean it up a little bit get rid of your plywood outside of that you know get some really good bags make sure you wear gloves there's some safety gear if you want to have that on it's not a bad idea they protect your eyes especially if you're not familiar with this kind of work isn't if you enjoyed this content if it's been helpful to you then hit the like button we appreciate that subscribe to the channel for all kinds of home renovations DIY tips and tricks and don't forget to follow us on Instagram and hold my divisions DIY this one we'll see you again next time [Music]

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Keywords: home renovision, renovation, bathroom renovation, jeff thorman, construction, diy renovations, renovations, do it yourself, diy, instructional, hrv, ceramic floor, laundry room, demo, demolition, removal, subfloor, how to remove tile floor, remove tile floor, how to remove floor tile, how to remove tile, tile

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Length: 13min 26sec (806 seconds)

Published: Sun Oct 14 2018