How the Red Wings' attempts to maintain a dynasty caused their demise | Collapse

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This was a great watch and actually not as depressing as I thought it would be.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 24 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/JOHNxJOHN ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 09 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

The only time Iโ€™ll ever be sad for a sb nation upload

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 36 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/[deleted] ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 09 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

In the past, this mightโ€™ve made me sad. With the return of Steve Yzerman, those times are gone.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 32 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/[deleted] ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 09 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

It's gonna be one of those days boys

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 12 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/SwaSquad ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 09 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

I absolutely love the SBNation Collapse videos (and their Beef History, and their Rewinders, and anything Jon Bois does...)

Schadenfreude always comes back to bite ya though.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 9 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/goblue10 ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 09 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

How is there no mention of the death of Ilitch and how Ilitch (I'd argue rightfully, no matter how selfish) wanted to push to win one more? Absolutely absurd.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 4 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/ufdan15 ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 10 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

Havenโ€™t watched, but does this video give any different information than the obvious weโ€™ve all observed over the years? That being trading away picks for and signing high priced veterans?

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 6 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/BoogerShovel ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 09 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

How would have winning that ominous game 7 in 2009 changed the outcome of the franchise?

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 5 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/Maybe_Im_Confused ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 09 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

I feel like they try to make Ken look really bad when he didn't want to step down. The guy was a year or two removed from back to back finals, why would he step down?

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 2 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/mentalicca ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ May 10 2019 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies
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- On June ninth 2009, the Red Wings were in Pittsburgh, 60 minutes away from their fifth Stanley Cup in 13 years. This team had continuously raised and matched massive expectations as they became a regular favorite to win the cup. It began with a playoff appearance in 1991. By 1995, they were in the finals where Detroit and the entire hockey world were stunned by the Devils. A year later, they were back in the Western Conference Finals, losing to the eventual champion, Avalanche. But all of that led to Detroit winning back to back cups in 97 and 98, the franchise's first of the modern era. And by 2002, they were back, beating the Hurricanes to win it all again. In those three championship years, the Red Wings only lost a single game in the finals, as Carolina was the lone team to avoid a sweep. And after, again, reaching the Conference Finals in 2007, they returned to form a year later and beat the Penguins to claim the Cup. Their new leaders, Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk, had learned under then replaced some of the guys that started it all. Parts of the original core remained, the grind line's Kris Draper and Kirk Maltby, Tomas Holmstrom, a career nuisance for opposing goalies, and the new caption, Nicklas Lidstrom, still one of the greatest defensemen in NHL history, who was a year removed from winning three straight Norris Trophies. He made life just a bit easier for Chris Osgood in the net, who rejoined the Wings in 2005 and became one of the heroes of the 2008 Cup. They were coached by Mike Babcock, who had returned the team to their championship winning ways in just his third season. And in the front office sat Hockeytown legend Steve Yzerman, who worked alongside general manager Ken Holland to keep the roster a step ahead of the league and prevented them from ever needing a full rebuild. So in 2009, with two chances to close it out, not only did the outcome feel like a given, there was no end in sight for the Red Wings' dynasty. (light music) But after dominating the previous matchup, in game six, Detroit found themselves down two-one in the closing seconds. And when this attempt from Datsyuk and Johan Franzen was snuffed out by a pile of Penguins, a game seven became necessary. In front of their home crowd, the Wings came out flat. They once again let the Penguins take a two-nothing lead, and although Jonathan Ericsson cut the deficit in half with six to play, they showed little urgency until it was nearly too late. With six and a half seconds remaining, Detroit had one last chance. Staring at an open net, Lidstrom wasn't able to force overtime and they were left to watch as Crosby carried his first Cup, and Pittsburgh began their celebration at Joe Louis Arena. While no loss is easy, there wasn't a real sense of panic in Detroit. Babcock made it clear they had no excuses, and needed to simply do better. The players knew as much, and recognized with the talent on the roster, they had reason to plan for a return trip. Their GM echoed this, the core was there, they would be fine. And it wasn't just arrogance that guided that mindset. Comparing what they had done to the rest of the league made it more justifiable. The Penguins team that had just beaten them, while they made consecutive finals appearances, weren't that far removed from being in the league's basement. With Mario Lemieux hit by injuries while the team struggled financially, they played their way into the second overall pick. A year later, the lockout led to them winning the draft lottery and the Sidney Crosby sweepstakes. They managed to quickly build a new foundation, and most of Detroit's previous foes in the finals were nowhere near as lucky. A year after losing to the Wings in 98, the Capitals dropped 24 points and missed the playoffs. The Hurricanes followed up their loss in 02 by finishing with the worst record in the league. So while a roster churn became inevitable for any team, with Detroit's identity set, they were far from being in a tailspin. Even when they were unable to resign their top goal scorer, Holland didn't panic. It would've been nice to keep Marian Hossa around, but he wasn't the sole reason the Wings had led the league in scoring by a wide margin. Hossa had come to Detroit with the sole intention of winning his first Cup, ironically turning down a long term offer from the Penguins to do so. But when he left, they still had 30-goal scorers in Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Johan Franzen. Hossa's year with the Wings represented just one of the ways that Detroit stacked their hand. For opposing players, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Free agents had often come to Hockeytown in search of a championship. Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille signed on in 2001 and helped lead the Wings over Carolina. Chris Osgood returned to Detroit in 2005, and took over for a struggling Dominik Hasek in the 08 playoffs that ended with the Cup. It may not have always worked out, but the logic was sound. If you wanted to get your name engraved on the trophy, Detroit was a good place to do so, and the architect of it all was Holland. He took over as general manager in 1997, but before that, had been with Detroit as a scout, getting his fingerprints on the dynasty from day one. The Wings' scouting department had beaten the rest of the league in building a pipeline for European and Russian talent, funneling them to Detroit via late-round draft picks. By the time Zetterberg and Datsyuk, two of the best examples of this, started to get regular ice time, they allowed Detroit to rebuild on the fly. And as the duo entered their prime, they gave further reasons for high expectations. The 2009, 2010 season began with a challenge, though. Detroit was hit by injuries early. Zetterberg, Holmstrom, and other key Wings saw limited action to start the year. They found themselves in unfamiliar territory, where even in January, every win mattered. But while the 2010 Winter Olympics caused a headache for the league, they seemed to come at a perfect time for the Wings. Detroit did heat up out of the break, and finished as the fifth seed in the West. But it was their worst finish since the NHL went to the conference oriented playoff bracket in 1994. For the first time in four years, Detroit wouldn't make it out of the second round. The success that they had become accustomed to started to have a different effect. The Wings had played at least 100 games each of the three previous seasons, and it looked to be taking a toll. Their man-games lost to injury had skyrocketed as a result, and if that wasn't enough, front office received a shakeup following the early exit. In May of 2010, Red Wings owner and president Mike Ilitch approached his GM with a proposal. He wanted to promote Holland to team president in order to move Steve Yzerman to general manager. One of the most beloved players to even don the winged wheel, Yzerman had joined the front office as soon as he retired. He gained additional experience as executive director for Team Canada, who was fresh off an Olympic gold medal. But for Holland, the move likely seemed more of a demotion, and in his defense, he was still viewed as one of the best GMs across all professional sports. So when Ilitch suggested it, Holland told his boss โ€œIโ€™m a general manager, that's what I was hired to do.โ€ Holland put the kibosh on the move, so Yzerman looked elsewhere. The Red Wings legend joined the Tampa Bay Lightning in the same position he had sought in Detroit. And while Yzerman was pointing out how long of a process rebuilding the Lightning could take, Holland was signing an extension to continue his dynastic vision. But even Yzerman couldn't make hockey in Tampa Bay a thing, right? With one familiar face already gone, others followed suit. The wave of retirements began with Kirk Maltby ahead of the 2010, 2011 season. His final year had been derailed by injury, but over his 14 years in Detroit, he had played the role of agitator perfectly. A year later, Chris Osgood and Kris Draper retired, two of the key pieces both in the Red Wings' championships and in their iconic rivalry with the Colorado Avalanche. With them went defenseman and locker room leader Brian Rafalski, whose time in Detroit was often overshadowed by Lidstrom. And even though they were able to convince their captain to stick around for a 20th season, it presented a problem being kicked down the road. On opening night of the 2011-2012 season, the average age of their defensemen was over 30, with only one guy younger than 27. By the playoffs, things wouldn't get better. They were the first team eliminated, falling in five games to Nashville for their earliest exit since 2003. That unexpected tough loss was followed by a more expected but tougher one. On May 31st 2012, Detroit's captain retired. The seven-time Norris Trophy winner and four-time Stanley Cup Champion was still Detroit's best defensemen even at the age of 41. There's no doubt he could've maintained his production, even when considering he had played an additional three seasons worth of playoff games. Management had convinced themselves they could keep Lidstrom coming back. Instead, his departure created a hole that couldn't be filled by just one player, or at least not by someone currently on the team. Holland looked to free agency for a fix, and chased that year's top prize. He offered Ryan Suter a deal that would have given him one of the longest and most lucrative contracts in franchise history. If the star defenseman wasn't enough, they also tried to bring in the other jewel of free agency, Suter's close friend, Zach Parise. But by 2012, the legacy wasn't enough for Suter and Parise to come to Hockeytown. While that happens, fans weren't used to the Red Wings being spurned, and especially not for a team like the Minnesota Wild. Sure, the pair was from Minnesota and Wisconsin, so it could be justified as players choosing to return home, but as Greg Eno put it, it was like ice cream losing out to spinach. And when Holmstrom retired the day before his 40th birthday, the need for incoming talent grew once again. One side effect of the big names passing on Detroit in free agency was they then scrambled to sign replacements who were often past their prime. In 2012, they inked Stephen Weiss to a four-year deal worth five million per. They signed Daniel Alfredsson to a stop gap contract for the same amount, and a season later, the trend continued when Jonathan Ericsson was extended for over four million per year. These moves were being made by the man once lauded for his roster construction. He had slashed a $77 million roster down to 34, and routinely got players to take pay cuts and agree to hometown discounts. But the moves to extend the playoff streak caused Detroit's ceiling to lower, and the expectations shifted from Finals favorite to just another playoff team hoping to get hot. At the end of 2014, Detroit failed to win at least 50% of their games for the first time since 1996. That sparked the first of back to back to back opening round defeats, two of which came at the hands of Yzerman's Tampa Bay Lightning. In the midst of that, they said goodbye to Mike Babcock, the coach that had led them to two Presidents' Trophies and the two latest Cup finals. After failing to agree to an extension in Detroit, he signed a record-setting contract with the division rival Toronto Maple Leafs. His successor, Jeff Blashill, did extend the playoff streak to 25 seasons, but he immediately ran into newer versions of the same hurdles. Ahead of the 2016, 2017 season, Datsyuk left the NHL in order to finish his career back home. While he was still one of the more talented Wings, Datsyuk's age had been showing. Injuries forced him to miss time, and when he was out there, he rarely showed the magic that had helped bail out the team in years past. But for Detroit, his departure wasn't a major surprise. Holland knew it was a possibility even when he gave Datsyuk a three year deal two seasons prior. Regardless, him leaving put the team in a tough spot. They pulled off a trade that dumped Datsyuk's remaining salary on the actively tanking Coyotes, and Detroit actually gained a second round pick, and only dropped four spots in the first. This was part of a delayed shift in philosophy for Holland, he finally looked to stockpile picks instead of tossing them at rentals. But even he knew it was too late, and his future was no longer the guarantee it once was. Without Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Draper, Holmstrom, Yzerman, the Wings finally succumbed. For the first time since 1990, they failed to make the playoffs, and a year later, they one-upped themselves. Not only did they miss the post season by over 30 points, but they did so with the oldest roster in the NHL. With the playoffs out of reach, the team finally admitted they were rebuilding. But the efforts made to keep the streak alive had hurt their ability to do even that. Bloated contracts caused difficulty in resigning the young talent already on the roster, and the money guaranteed to the vets locked them into roster spots that prevented the youth movement from fully spreading its wings. And that was all before one more obstacle, set this time by their captain. Despite playing three straight 82-game seasons, Zetterberg's back wasn't getting any better. In the 2018 off season, Hank was forced to retire with three years left on his contract. That meant Detroit would miss more than just his abilities on the ice. While some relief would come thanks to the long term injured reserve tag, he'd still be on the books through 2021. But at least that means he probably didn't charge an appearance fee for the ceremonial puck drop to kick off the season. For the first time, the Detroit Red Wings looked nothing like the 2008 Stanley Cup Champions. They missed the playoffs and failed to crack 80 points for a third straight year. Long gone were the names that had buoyed the organization. Plenty of work was still needed for future success, but promise finally showed. By the end of 2019, the top four point scorers on the roster were all 24 or younger. Before the prior season, no Red Wings team since 1992 had even two of their top scorers under the age of 25. And whatever would come next, there would be at least one familiar face involved. On April 19th 2019, Steve Yzerman returned to the organization. Hockeytown's favorite son was finally named general manager once Holland relented to a new position. But that arrangement didn't last long. Holland found a new home in Edmonton barely two weeks later. The final and most instrumental piece was gone. He'd taken over while they were on top, kept them there longer than most could have, and ushered in their downfall well before he was ready to admit it. The Red Wings proved success can be a dangerous thing. Considering it's definition can change for a team and be different depending on the person involved, the pursuit can derail the future while the past blinds the present. It kept them from seeing their fate was sealed, and there was nowhere to go but down. But when the Detroit Red Wings were good, they were really, really good.
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Channel: Secret Base
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Keywords: sb nation, collapse, collapsed lungdetroit red wings, the red wings, dynasty, nhl, hockey, steve yzerman, ken holland, pavel datsyuk, nicklas lidstrom, henrik zetterberg, chris osgood, kris draper, kirk maltby, tomas holmstrom, pittsburgh penguins, stanley cup finals, stanley cup playoffs, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2002, 2008, 2009, reitrement, 2009 musicorts, highlights, detroit red wings stanley cup, red wings vs penguins, future, will buikema, sports
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Length: 16min 14sec (974 seconds)
Published: Thu May 09 2019
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