How petrol pumps know when to turn themselves off

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I nervously tried to figure out when to manually stop the pump for like a year before someone told me they automatically shut off when the tank is full

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 23 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Moose_Hooves πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 16 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Not in any way is this cutting edge technology. Which, to me, makes it even cooler. I was using this tech 30 years ago in the Navy, and it was old and dusty then. But it’s comforting to me, at least, to know physics and mechanical parts are keeping things flowing (so to speak).

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 50 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/adinmem πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 16 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

The Venturi effect is the same that powered carburetors on older cars built before the 80s and 90s. Higher intake volume from the pistons moving faster caused more fuel to be sucked up into the intake.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 15 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/RKRagan πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 16 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Man, Steve Mould is a top tier science educator. I’ve been curious about this for a long time and it wasn’t until this video that it finally clicked for me, no pun intended.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 5 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/SampMan87 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 17 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Very clear explaining and use of working models to further show illustrate the concepts. I love this stuff.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 3 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/mcmonky πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 16 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Some time ago a German childrens education TV show (Sendung mit der Maus) also made a video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bPoVtybOu0

Its interesting to compare the different approach of essentially conveying the same information

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 3 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/jabiko πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 17 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Also make sure you dont keep trying to put more gas into your tank after its full. Good way to mess up your evap system.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 4 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/drunxor πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 16 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

This is so cool. My wife asked me how the pump knew when to turn off a few months ago. My explanation was along these lines, but this video is MUCH better. Can't wait to show it to her

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/newsjunkee πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 16 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Something that I never thought I would care about but this is a pretty good video. I watched it to the end.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Jegged πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Sep 16 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies
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- So, I bought a petrol pump nozzle and cut it in half. You might call it a gas pump nozzle. The reason I cut it in half is because I want to answer one question. How do these things know when to turn themselves off? You hear that click sound? That's the nozzle turning itself off. Like, when you go to fill up your car with petrol, you don't have to worry about it overflowing. That's because these nozzles switch off automatically when the tank is full, but how? My first thought was that there must be some kind of electronic sensor in there, but the way these really work is much smarter than that. There are actually two very clever mechanisms in here. The first one relates to this tube you can see that runs to the end of the nozzle, and the second relates to all these connected levers. The whole thing's quite compact, so I built a few different things to illustrate each part of the mechanism, to make it clearer. Let's start with this hole that's usually located here or here. It's called the Venturi sensor, which sounds like it's electronic, but actually this is entirely fluid mechanical. It's called the Venturi sensor because it works on the Venturi effect. The Venturi effect happens in this part of the nozzle, but to be able to see what's going on, I got this made; it's called a Venturi tube, because it demonstrates the Venturi effect. It's a wide tube that narrows in the middle, and then you have this narrow U-bend shaped tube coming off the restriction in the middle. There are two other U-bend shaped tubes either side, but we're ignoring those for now. Look what happens when I partially fill this U-bend with water, and then blow through the tube. You might expect air to be forced into the U-bend, causing the level of water here to go down. In fact, the water level here goes up. That means there must be a reduction in pressure here in the constriction, and that's sucking the water up. By the way, the water in the U-bend is there just so that you can see the change in pressure. There's no equivalent to that water in the nozzle itself. But why does the pressure go down? Well, it's Bernoulli's principle, but actually, we can explain it quite easily from first principles. The air traveling through the constricted part of the pipe must be traveling faster than the air in the wider part of the pipe. That makes intuitive sense. To get the same amount of mass through a narrower pipe, the mass must have to travel more quickly, but you can also think about it in terms of conservation of energy. The gas here has kinetic energy, but it also has potential energy stored as pressure, a bit like how you can store energy in a spring by compressing it. But that total energy, kinetic energy plus potential energy stored as pressure, needs to be conserved. That means that when the kinetic energy goes up in the fast moving fluid in the constricted part of the tube, the potential energy must go down. The pressure must go down. By the way, those two other U-bend shaped tubes either side of the middle one are there to illustrate the fact that the pressure goes down in the wider parts of the tube, as well, when there's air flowing, but just not to the same degree as it does in the constricted part of the tube. The two outer U-shaped pipes have nothing to do with the discussion we're having here about petrol nozzles; I just thought I should explain what they were. But thinking about that central U-shaped tube, what does that tell us about how the petrol nozzle works? Well, this pipe in the model is this pipe in the nozzle. The constriction in the pipe that happens here in the model actually happens here in the nozzle. This spring-loaded stopper here opens slightly under the pressure of the petrol to reveal a really narrow ring for the liquid to pass through. And you can just about see, inside that ring, there's a tiny hole there. Actually, there's a number of holes. The one I just illustrated with the paperclip. There's also this one, and there's probably one on the other side as well, but they all lead up to here, and then into this hole, which comes down through here, which feeds into this long tube. This tube that runs to the end of the petrol pump nozzle is equivalent to this tube in the model. So, this constriction here creates low pressure in the tube. There is low pressure here at the end of the nozzle. That means air is actually drawn in through this tube. That air simply mixes with the petrol in this part of the nozzle. So, how is this used to detect when your petrol tank or your gas tank is full? This bit's really clever. The tube that comes away from the constriction in the flow of the main pipe is actually forked. One tube goes off to the end of the nozzle, as we've seen, but there's actually a second tube that goes off up here. Because of the way this thing has been cut in half, it's not that easy to see, but there is a tube coming off here. Most of it's been cut away, but it was there. And that tube leads to this cavity here. That cavity is sealed by a membrane. You can see part of the membrane just there, before it was cut in half. In other words, before I cut it in half, this whole chamber was sealed off with a membrane. So, schematically, it would look like this with two tubes forking off the restriction. This now represents the tube that goes to the end of the nozzle, and this represents the tube that goes to the sealed chamber. So, when I blow through this pipe, it will reduce the pressure in this tube and this tube. But look what happens when I put my finger over this tube. It turns out that this tube was relieving some of the negative pressure. And when I put my finger over it, look, you see a sudden jump in the water level in this tube. The same thing happens with the petrol nozzle. This opening is allowing some of that negative pressure to be relieved by allowing air to flow into the system. But then, what happens when the level of petrol in your tank reaches the end of the nozzle? Well, it covers up that hole. The tube is now sucking on petrol instead of air. Petrol is heavier than air, so the tube can't suck as much. It can't relieve as much of that suction force. And just like when I put my finger over one pipe in the model, the other pipe experiences an increase in suction force. This is my attempt to put all that together. So, you've got the main tube. It has a constriction here. Here's the tube coming off from the constriction. Here is where it forks. One tube goes to the end of the nozzle, the other goes to this chamber that's sealed off with a membrane here. And look, when the liquid in the tank reaches the end of the Venturi tube, you see that membrane gets sucked into the chamber. The membrane moves up only slightly in my model. That's because I don't know much about fluid dynamics. I'm sure there's a lot of things I could tune in this model, like how much is the pipe constricted? How wide are the Venturi tubes? Where does the fork happen? All that sort of stuff. But for me, it was incredibly satisfying to see that membrane move at all. So, when the petrol in your tank reaches the end of the nozzle, this membrane moves. And you'll notice that this membrane is attached to something. It's attached to this rod here. And that's really important. That's how the nozzle actually turns off. It's quite hard to see what's going on here, so I built another model. So, imagine this is a valve that lets petrol through. I need to push this thing up to open the valve. In the actual nozzle, this valve is spring loaded. In this model, I'm representing that fact with a mass. The mass is pushing back down on the valve like the spring in the real thing. And this here is the handle of the pump. So, hopefully, if I pull this handle up, it will open the valve. But look, it doesn't actually work because we've got a lever happening here. Pulling the handle up just makes this thing move down. What I need to do is hold this thing in place so that this becomes the fulcrum of the lever. Now, when I pull the handle up, it opens the valve. Great. Now, one way I can hold this thing in place is to put a couple of circles in here. And then, I put this piece in to hold these circles in place, to stop them falling into the middle. And there you go. That works perfectly. Now, here's the clever part. This funny wedge thing is attached to the membrane. And remember, when petrol reaches that Venturi tube, it causes the membrane to pop up. And when it pops up, it pulls this part with it. And when it does that, those circles are now free to fall into the middle. They're no longer jamming that shaft in place, and this point stops being the fulcrum. Everything collapses, and the valve shuts. In three dimensions this is achieved three ball bearings in these two positions, and one round the back that you can't see. So, let's put all those mechanisms together inside the nozzle itself, and recap. So, petrol comes in here under pressure, and it meets this closed valve. So, you pull on this handle here, you'll notice it doesn't open the valve. Instead, this thing moves. But look, you get to this point here, and these ball bearings, they get jammed against the constriction here in the housing. Of course, because I've cut this thing in half, that doesn't work, the constriction doesn't work, and the thing can move when it shouldn't. So, I'm just gonna use brute force to hold that in place to illustrate the point. And look, now... oh, I've lost the ball bearing. Doesn't matter. Now, when I put on this handle, this point acts as a fulcrum, and the lever mechanism opens the valve, and petrol can flow through. So, let's imagine the valve is still open; petrol flows through here. It looks as if this housing is in the way of the petrol, but actually there's a gap underneath, and there's a gap on the top as well. So, petrol flows around this part of the mechanism, and then the pressure of the petrol pushes against this spring-loaded thing here, which creates a thin circular channel for the petrol to continue to flow through the nozzle. Now, because it's a thin channel, and due to the Venturi effect, the pressure is lower in that part. And look, there's a hole here and a hole here that links to that low pressure region. And that hole leads over here, down into this tube, but it also goes up into this cavity here that is bounded by a membrane at the bottom here that's cut in half. Now, because this hole is open to the air, it sucks air in, and that acts to relieve the negative pressure. But when your petrol tank is full and it comes up to that hole, it's harder to suck on petrol than it is to suck on air, so this tube here is less good at relieving that negative pressure, which means that this chamber here feels a stronger negative pressure, which pulls up on the membrane. The membrane is attached to this thing, so this thing gets pulled up as well. So, let's put all that together at the very end, and see what happens when the petrol nozzle in your hand makes that clicking sound. So, the ball bearings are holding this thing in place. And look, you've opened the valve. But now, look, this thing... I'm gonna try and reach over and do it. 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Length: 13min 56sec (836 seconds)
Published: Fri Sep 16 2022
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